to republican fund-raiser michael garza and fox business' inimitable kennedy. still noteworthy? >> i want to say make a hat or brooch or paper airplane but that would be flippant. you have a lot of people with a lot of cash who are very dissatisfied with just about every level of politics and the economy, and they're going to do whatever they can with influence to make sure they can affect the outcome of the race. it's a crowded field. i'm surprised that you have people putting so much money but $10 million to larry ellison is like a million dollars to me. [ laughter ] >> you know, mike you think these guys are pretty good at gauging whether they get any bang for their buck or maybe they don't care, it's just a drop in the bucket. but they are shrew, and leads to me in a few of them, they're not buying the conventional wisdom at a jeb bush or hillary clinton or the consensus candidate scott walker backed by republicans is the guy. what do you make of that? >> what kennedy said is absolutely right. if it's overcrowded really recall, there is nothing wrong with getting to see the finer sides of all the candidates. many are very good. not only for this race but races ahead. you get to know people now i think chips are going to move around, it's difficult to reshift the establishment party. sure ted cruz and marco rubio are going to get an audience and they will raise money, not the level the establishment party is going to raise. neil: the establishment candidates tend to lose in the republican party in the last couple of elections. i don't know. kennedy the other side of that is jack welch was here saying we need passion and i just look, quoting him, i was at an event with ted cruz, he generates passion now i don't know whether that's a strategy for cruz or a strategy for marco rubio. what do you make of that? >> they are absolutely right. that's what the silicon valley people see in more nontraditional candidates because the traditional parties and certainly the democratic party have been so bad for their business you know, and we talked about the nsa a lot on the show. that hurts the bottom line for the high-tech companies. i wouldn't be surprised to see them investing in the tea party candidates and someone like rand paul, and you know i think that you have the kochs they pledged $100 million in the race. i wouldn't be surprised to see proxy wars between other billionaires. neil: 100 million to them is like 640 to me. interesting a lot of the guys are long-term investors. and one of them is looking at some of the tea party guys. was saying of them you know ted cruz marco rubio could be president within the next 20 years. here's a guy saying, i think, i want to get to know them now because i think they're both young enough and forward enough that they're going to make it to the white house, or one of them will. what do you make of that? >> the point i was making earlier. neil: are you saying my point was your point so i copied your point. >> you copied my point. let's stick with the election for a second. my belief is if you get the best two candidates and put them together that's a great outcome. i don't know if anybody is looking at that at this stage. neil: a conventional candidate with a rabble-rouser candidate? >> some combination that addresses most of the needs of americans. >> i don't know dude mccain-palin, she is about as nontraditional as you can get and it was a losing strategy. >> i wasn't suggesting that combination. >> no but i'm saying, that pattern. neil: the meltdown. >> someone went rogue. >> but you get the best of a couple candidates that do formulate make sense and put them together. i don't know what's going to happen. if you get an establishment candidate who is he going to pick for his vice president? i don't know. this is an opportunity to get to see lots of candidates for a little money, not only for this election but for years to come. neil: it won't be an establishment guy, i'm willing to make that bet. >> voters are sick of it already they're going to pass out vomit bags along with ballots when people go to the polls if we have to choose between bush and clinton. i would vote for neither. i would vote for you, neil. neil: i don't think the vomit bag analogy was appropriate. >> i will write you a handwritten apology letter. neil: thank you very much. she has no intention of write anything such letter. i want to go to the next subject. half a dozen republican candidates stand at 30 million bucks each by the time we get to new hampshire. with that many with, that much money who says we have a republican nominee by the time we get to the convention? remember i'm the money guy. i do math. anyway the former bush-quayle campaign operative says that scenario could be looking more likely. what do you think of that? they can stay in the race and given the apportionment of delegates based on performance of a state. we could drag this out without a firm nominee by the time you get to the convention? >> that's right not only could we we will. i predict we will. 2016 will be the most extraordinary race for our lifetime because of super pacs. it is a great equalizer among candidates. super pacs make candidates viable for a longer period of time. if you look at the calendar for 2016, you've got the first caucus on february 2nd in iowa and the convention starts july 18th. that's 5 1/2 months. that's a very compressed time period. if you have similar results the way you did in 2012, where you have different nominees being picked for each of the early caucuses. there were three nominees for the first four you had santorum and romney and gingrich and romney, if that happens again or any candidate that is a win, place or show in the first four caucuses or primaries i think are viable and super pacs will be the fuel to keep them going maybe for months. >> you know, mark, another theer a i have, i have so many that are wacky. >> you do. neil: the showdown early on between jeb bush and marco rubio, and it will be in florida, and if marco rubio wins florida, jeb bush is done. money or no money. what do you think of that? >> i agree. and that showdown has begun. there is bad blood between the two candidates already. you see rubio is retorting, suddenly retorting bush, and here we are in may of 2015. i think that that absolutely will be one of the side stories, one of the subplots of this election and you're right. florida will be the most remarkable battleground for the gop nomination that we have ever seen because of the two candidates. neil: watch closely. mark, always a pleasure my friend. >> thanks, neil. neil: republican candidates might want to focus more on what average americans are not doing with theirs. kohls is going to miss expectations because everyday americans are not spending every day. the 2016 election will very much come down to once again, the economy, stupid. so john, it is interesting when you take away all the clutter how we're economically faring and by then you could see the recovery long in the tooth, which means republicans do what. >> i think the one big winning strategy for republicans in 2016, neil is going to be that middle class prosperity is directly linked to a growing economy. we've had an administration that talk middle class, but it's been the most anti-middle class policies we've seen certainly in my lifetime. so the candidate whoever that candidate is, who can deliver a message of middle class prosperity and do it in a way that has passion and focus and energy is going to be the one who wins. neil: who is that? you ever give it much thought? >> well i love the discussion you had prior to my interview because i think the super pacs are really the unknown quantity in this election. the ability to bring in a lot of money late in the game and be able to use all kinds of media including social media to be able to get out to a lot of people quickly and change opinion is something we've never seen on this scale before, so i agree that we're probably not going to know who the candidate is until pretty close to the primaries or pretty close to the convention let's say, and it may well be a nontraditional candidate. neil: do you think, or do you sense, as kennedy was saying, people, voters in the republican party are not only antsy but thirsting for a breakout candidate. someone who breaks conformity traditional grand ol' party nominees, and that frame what do you think? >> i think so many of us who have any connection with the economy or business or have known america for a long time than our greatest strength as a country economically is the entrepreneurial advantage that we have over everyone in the world. and yet this is the first time during the obama presidency that we have now seen where instead of having more new companies created every year then companies go out of business during the obama administration. we've seen more companies each year going out of president than are being created. that's because we have heavy handed regulation, hard to get access capital for small- and medium-sized businesses a leadership in the administration which has no interest in growing the economy. they're all about redistributing wealth. there is a thirst to say we've got to change the game. there's too much at stake this time. neil: what do you think of fellow tech titan larry ellison placing big bets, it would seem, on marco rubio? >> certainly worth having. people who have a lot of resources like larry ellison has to be look out at candidates who need to be able to get a spotlight on them marco rubio clearly is articulate. he's smart. he's in a key state. republicans can't win without a combination of florida and ohio. now whether he has the experience to be able to be president we don't know yet. here's what i would point out. we've had two presidents in a row george w. bush, barack obama both have been poor at selecting the adviser around them. the key thing i think if marco rubio does get nominated and elected is to do what reagan did. reagan put together an incredible team of key advisers, people who helped him build such a successful presidency, and if marco rubio with little experience, no more than barack obama had when he became president does, make it all the way to the office, i sure hope he gets much better advisers than either george w. bush or barack obama has gone the. we've gone 16 years without really strong advisers for our president. neil: a good point. it's all in the team. all right. very good seeing you john, thank you. >> thank you, neil. neil: all right john sculley. a deadly crash and all fingers pointing to engineer who can't recall? 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ask your doctor about cialis for daily use. for a free 30-tablet trial go to cialis.com . neil: well he is not talking to officials because he says he has nothing to say. brandon bostian is the engineer behind the wheel of that derailed amtrak train. he says he really doesn't remember anything from the crash. some say he's trying to get out of incriminating himself, but is it really plausible to have no recollection of a traumatic event like this? we're watching and focusing on it because it could go a long way to deciding whether we resolve it. to attorney debra blauno looking into this as well as psychotherapist dr. robi ludwig. is that possible not to remember. >> yes. neil: even if you are not badly injured? >> yes, absolutely. for psychological reasons it's a psychological amnesia when something happens so painful so traumatic, your mind almost can't wrap itself around the reality. and in order to protect itself it suppresses the memory prior to the incident. it can happen. neil: we know the train was going 106 miles on this turn, the speed limit was 50. it wasn't the train doing that on its own unless issues come up. everything is coming back at him or pointing to him, that's why he's forgetting it? >> it's premature to say what happened here. they have to recover the data from the black box. we don't know if it was mechanical error, possibly malfunction, human error. neil: i did hear one engineer say it is tough for a train to accelerate on its own to that degree. the conductor was gunning it, then what? >> what we should look at is the fact there could have been a safety mechanism in the tracks that have to be installed by the end of the year. it's a congressional mandate. neil: it still doesn't absolve the engineer. >> that's the interesting question here, that even if he doesn't remember actually going that fast or doesn't remember the incidents prior to the actual accident happening, that doesn't necessarily mean he's not responsible because he could have post-traumatic stress as well. even though he was driving the train, and even if he is responsible i don't know if he claims he doesn't have a memory that exonerates him at all. that's a legal question. >> he's turned over what could potentially incriminate him. he gave a cell phone which he claims was off during the accident and gave a blood sample. these are things that would incriminate that. neil: had he not done, that it would have raised questions. >> he is following amtrak's protocol. neil: amtrak could be throwing him under the bus or the train here. what is traditional in the incidents or crashes is they go back to driver error, pilot error you know what i mean? >> absolutely. the interesting thing about memory, it can happen either way. sometimes trauma when something is highly emotionally charged you remember every moment of it. in fact, you stay stuck in those moments it feels more three dimensional. you can remember the incidents more than something that happened a few days ago. neil: is that why we get witnesses and those on the train recounting it dramatically differently? >> absolutely. this is such a devastating and tragic loss of life. >> right, absolutely. and many of the people on the train including the person driving, it whether he's responsible or not could have post-traumatic stress disorder and memory issues. this is going to have a huge impact on everybody that was part of this crash. neil: you're right, and to your point, way too early to be able to -- we are looking at all possibilities here. thank you, we'll see what happens. in the meantime did you see the brutal hammer attack on new york police officers? if you think your job ain't easy, try being them? 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many of them today. police police officers. to patrolmen across the country probably feeling underappreciated. one cop said we don't expect a hand, but i think we deserve more than a finger. what do you make of that? >> absolutely correct. two words, it's a thankless job, you go out there day in and day out, while most people are sleeping, we're making sure you sleep comfortably and everything is good, you can start your day. we're going to domestic incident, burglaries robberies throughout the day. most people don't see what we see. we see people at their worst men and women do a great job, day in and day out. if the news media in general would report all the good things that cops did. neil: never going to happen. >> you would never have enough time on the air. neil: it's funny this is typical of you, when i said do you feel tempted not to help people? you gave me a look like my dad used to give me. i'm going launch you in orbit. it's second nature to go trouble and to sort out all the details later, that's interesting. most of us are the other way. >> that's what we were sworn to do. this is our career, this is our life. neil: do you or your buddies question especially the developments now, police are under the gun the legal gun as well that it's worth it? >> it is. you know, you have your moments where you sit and say especially when you look at the media with the attack the anti-cop sentiment and the social media is starting to build up this thing that's another story. when we talked with each other, we say is it worth doing it but you realize it is. most of the people are good people out, there the overwhelming majority of people are good people and do you it for them. do you it for the bad people. they don't realize they need help but they need help. that's what we do, day in and day out. it's a thankless job. none of us took the job to be patted on the back once in a while. we didn't take the job to be criticized for going into a situation that most people would be scared out of their minds to go into. yet we go in there and help others and whatever happens in that couple of minutes that we're in that dangerous situation the critics start the next day. neil: do you think some of your colleagues drag you down? they get a little extra zealous and drag you down they make all cops look bad? >> the few instances that happen, they shouldn't paint everybody with one big paintbrush, and that's the sad thing is the overwhelming majority of police officers are doing their job each and every day and doing the right thing. neil: it's got to bug you when you see a narrative accepted as gospel proven wrong like the don't shoot hands up don't shoot, never happened never, ever happened. it built on a myth that has been proven a lie, and yet it's perpetuated that prince or whatever he's calling himself now, a song. >> the symbol. neil: what the heck? >> again, it doesn't have to be true to be popular and be used against police officers. look at ferguson a lot of things they said happened didn't happen. they have grand juries and the same thing with staten island. >> the federal government didn't buy it and launched its own investigation. >> yeah what did that turn out to be? the same conclusion. the rhetoric continues. you know what festers this stuff, you go in the social media. i think it was after the baltimore incident or another incident. a woman in atlanta, georgia was posting on facebook killing the cops. police officers in late november in new york city and december had to sit there in protest lines listening to people say we want you dead. you should be killed. and nobody came to our defense there. but they sat there as professionals allowed them to say what they wanted to say. i don't think our forefathers first amendment rights insight people to riot. neil: it is weird, thick skin, james. if it were me i would not. james carver. a new fox poll shows hillary clinton is the least ethical contender. you should see who comes right after her. why joe piscopo wonder yes this is such a big deal? 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>> you know what? if it's somebody that comes in and brings business to new jersey, i'm okay with it. neil: even if it's in a dallas cowboy booth. booth. neil: you are evil. >> what is going on with your outfit today. should have been itemized. something about christie, you bumped into him -- neil: back to the subject young man. >> frank sinatra died on this day 17 years ago. i have to do a black-tie affair later. after mr. cavuto's show. this was mr. sinatra's favorite color. neil: did he wear it with a fancy suit. >> he always did, he always had orange. neil: really? with a tuxedo. i never saw that in any video. of course, it was black and white. >> i wore the orange in celebration of mr. sinatra it's a pathetic attempt to pay tribute, homage to one of my heroes. i like the tuxedo. neil: this i want to get your thoughts before you go. it's an age-old question. hamburger or hot dog. carl's jr. is going to solve the problem by putting the hot dog in the hamburger. this ain't any ordinary hamburger. this 1, 300 calorie is a third of a pound of black angus beef with grilled hot dog slathered in american cheese and topped with potato chips and the model comes with it! what do you think of that? 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[woodworker] i live in the fine details. that's why i run on quickbooks. i use the payments app to accept credit cards... ...and everything autosyncs. those sales prove my sustainable designs are better for the environment and my bottom line. that's how i own it. . neil: talk about being caught in the act literally, thanks to cybersecurity experts at root 9 b, we know powerful russian hackers with ties to the kremlin were preparing to hit u.s. banks. they darn near did. route 9 b ceo john grana and john harbaugh are here to tell us what they found and stopped. welcome good to have both of you. joe what was the this about, what did you see? what did you notice? >> i'm aware of what they found. the technical side of it i leave to john, i'm proud of the team in that they in conduct with work with one of our clients they uncovered a prospective attack against the uae and ua bank and several entities. this is what we need as a nation the average corporation takes 312 days to find out they're attacked. >> you are former nsa operations deputy director you know this stuff inside and out. how close was this to happening? in other words, if you didn't catch this when you did, what would have happened and spell out dangers. >> sure so neil, so really at the end of the day it's very difficult to know how close we were but what i would focus on is the in fact we were able to find these indicators where there was some threat being prepositioned against several financial institutions, and we were able to get that information to the potential victims before there was an opportunity for something to happen, which could have been bad. >> you know joe, this move the patriot act, saying it went too far, the intrusions went too far, and oddly united a lot of republicans and democrats, to the idea there is such a thing as compromising our basic freedoms for safety. what do you say to that? what are we in danger of? >> this is a new frontier relative to hacking, you have state sponsored organizations like this one and it's a very serious threat to the united states. my response to most of these people who are concerned about the fences we're putting up. not on sacrificing liberty for security it's securing liberty. that's the way i look at this. neil: john, are we in danger of something big happening still? this issue not withstanding? >> so outside of this what's been reported in this activity? neil: yep. >> so there's always that chance in cyber, right? lots of reporting, other senior government officials that have talked about the significant threats in cyberspace. i think those are all a reality whether it's targeted against industrial control systems financial sector significant players in the market. i think all those things are still strong possibility. neil: gentlemen thank you very much, and thanks for stopping this. in the meantime put up your mit romney. what is he thinking? >> you may think this is just a joke, but i'm taking this very seriously. hello? . >> heard my critics say that i'm out of touch that i'm stiff, they just don't relate to people. for years, i've been listening to garbage like that, and i decided to fight back. how do you do that? by taking on the former heavyweight champion of the world. neil: what is he thinking? the politico versus the puncher i guess the wait is almost over. tomorrow night in salt lake city, the stormin mormon will be facing off against five-time heavyweight champion evander holyfield they say for charity. i have josh romney here when i had evander holyfield here he wasn't sounding too charitable about your dad. what do you make of it. >> i think it's a lot of fun. evander is a great sport, my dad is a great sport. it's all in the name charity raising money for an important cause, they're both, i think, to be commended for being willing to get into the ring together and battle this out. neil: josh, i know you love your dad, but could he have messed his hair up a little bit in the prefight videos. >> it's going to get messed up for sure. i don't think he has much choice, it's going to get messed up. neil: your dad touched on, it so did evander. who and what started this, and why this cause? >> i'm president of charity vision international, i've been involved with the organization for five years we do about 40,000 eye surgeries around the year for people suffering from blindness. it's a curable disease for most people and something we care passionately about. i was talking to my dad a year or so ago about doing another gala for us. he said i don't want to do another gala. people get bored do something fun like a boxing event. evander was gracious enough right there on the phone to agree to do it. neil: you called up evander. >> someone i knew had his cell phone. i cold called him, and he heard of my dad and said this sounds like a great cause and something i'd be interested. in let's get to done. neil: all right, now, would your father cheat here. would he bite evander's ear, it's happened before. >> it has happened. we asked evander if we could do that. he said it would take a lot more money. neil: some tickets could go for 150 grand. there's no pay-per-view right? >> this is the real fight of the century. neil: calm down, it's not going to be the fight of the century. i'm thinking of your dad, great respect for your whole family, and it's showing another side of your father you always remind me and certainly your mom always reminds me there is a fun flippant side to him. i'm going back to the netflix documentary on mitt, that showed a side after the fact that i had seen obviously, but a lot of americans haven't seen. do you ever regret that that didn't come out. that that aspect that, that side of your dad never came out and he might have lost as a result? >> it's unfortunate. i think it's hard to get people to really know who you are and that netflix documentary did a great job of introducing people who my dad really is. not who the media portrayed him as. it's unfortunate. this is who my dad is. a fun loving great guy willing to do great things for a great cause, and overall a fun person. neil: and a good man. finally i know we weren't going to talk too much about politics. you must be seeing the field right now. i have a crackpot theory, and you can junk it all you want with so many in the race and so much wealth in the race principally last time around was your dad, you could have six seven, eight candidates josh who would have 20 million dollars or more, and i think that we won't have a nominee by the time we get on cleveland. do you think that's a possibility? >> you know, it's hard to even guess at this point. i remember two years out from my dad's election, impossible to know what's going to happen. neil: i think you know exactly what's going to happen, you know what i say is true, and we won't have a nominee. >> there's a lot of possibilities. anything could happen. it's politics, and things change ever minute. neil: what also changes are vows never to enter a race. your dad said he is not entering this race, he's done. but if the party were to call on him as a consensus candidate or a draft choice, what then? >> i take my dad at his word, i don't think he has any plans enter to this race at all. neil: really? we'll just see about that. >> yeah. neil: josh he has to get through the fight first. >> he's focused on one thing focused on one thing, not getting knocked out tomorrow night. we're working on that. one thing at a time. neil: all right, josh always a pleasure, my best to your family. full disclosure here. i do sit on ann romney's advisory board for multiple sclerosis and neurological conditions, a good family and a good cause and a bipartisan cause because you have a clinton on the same board. we have a lot more after this including do you have a problem choosing what dress to wear or what suit to wear? i know i do often. but magic mirrors aren't just in fairytales anymore. i've got one that says i'm a 40 long, after this. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. new york state is reinventing how we do business by leading the way on tax cuts. we cut the rates on personal income taxes. we enacted the lowest corporate tax rate since 1968. we eliminated the income tax on manufacturers altogether. with startup-ny, qualified businesses that start, expand or relocate to new york state pay no taxes for 10 years. all to grow our economy and create jobs. see how new york can give your business the opportunity to grow at ny.gov/business . neil: all right so you can't decide what color shirt to buy or dress to get. now a smart mirror can help you make the decision right in the dressing room. hopefully it doesn't suggest you lose a few pounds. anyway, to popular science editor michael nunez, what is this about? >> i was lucky enough to try out one of the smart mirrors in . >> right now they're trying to get people back into theorce and back interested in trying things out, and browsing around. and this is one way. neil: i think it's freaky. i know you trust this technology, apparently some of these mirrors can tell whether you are a male or female. how can they tell? >> that's the image recognition software. >> i think so. >> yeah so it's recognizing certain traits that are unique to different genders. neil: i already know the unique traits, i don't need my mirror confirming it. there you're okay you think this is a promising technology? >> it's great and letting retailers gather more information about people's shopping habits. it's great for brick and mortar stores. neil: does the mirror lie to you? somebody thinks they look fat and in theael phelps. it's lying to you. >> you know no the point is to inform the user of the mirror and so. neil: you're a thin fit, handsome young man, i walk in and say mirror, mirror on the wall. it shatters. yeah, okay. forget amazon using drones to deliver items to the house. the online retailer wants to use gps to deliver right where you are. does that mean my items come to me in the park? >> if you want them to. that's what's cool about this. neil: we had mugings in central park. >> i don't think the drone will mug you. neil: once it drops the goods look at that. >> i don't think you get the cartier in central park. this is a real obvious for drones, this is to provide a level of convenience for people, and have things delivered no matter where they're whether they're fishing in the mississippi or hanging in central park or hanging out at burning man. drones can land in any of the spaces. >> let's say you're fishing in the middle of nowhere and you only got two arms two hands and all your packages are dumped there, like in montana, then what? thank you, amazon i'll cart this back. >> well you know, if you've been fishing and run out of fishing line or lure, that's often the case for me you get snagged somewhere. it would be nice to have on demand drone delivery service. and so amazon is implementing a button called bring it to me. neil: do you pay a premium are in? >> unclear. they are in the testing phases. the faa allowed amazon to start testing the drones in a greater capacity. we're learning more how they're implemented through patents. seen a patent that says bring it to me. amazon wants to show the button on the website but it's unclear what that would cost. >> the human edge walmart will give them the same. >> it will give them an edge when you have drones bringing things to you. neil: scary. michael always a pleasure. june 1st i'll be hosting not one but two hours in the hearst business day. who gives you the most? well, "cavuto coast-to-coast." 12-2 p.m. eastern time on fox business. we move down from 8:00 to the middle of the day, well people need me to help them make sense of the crazy day. there's only one me. but i'll try. hopefully with guests like michael. we'll deliver that for you. why? because i'm not a drone. although i do drone on for two hours. two hours.e. >> a rock 'n' roll legend. >> the crazy thing about roy orbison, he had 21 top 40 hits. >> he dies too soon. with three young sons. >> he had secretly always wanted us to be musicians, but he wasn't going to push. >> does he send them on a musical mission from beyond the grave? >> and i kind of rubbed my eyes and looked at this. >> he said i've got this cassette of this song that nobody has heard before. >> will this strange inheritance bring roy and his boys together again? >> had you always dreamt of playing with your dad? >> always, yeah. >> mercy p ♪

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