new york commissioner ray kelly. appreciate coming in. what about the idea of isis bringing the fight here? >> we certainly can't discount that. this is the real deal, a very big threat. they talk about the united states as the far enemy and they'd love to come here if we could. >> are we prepared? you spent a lot of time as new york city commissioner makes sure this city was prepared post-9/11, are we now? >> i think we're doing everything we reasonably can do to protect new york and other big cities as well. there are no guarantees. we know that thousands of people have gone to syria, have learned a trade craft and have good paper, ability to travel, use passport. >> american passports in cases. >> american and european passports. so it certainly raises the concern level as far as an attack here. >> we always think about it and having the conversation in new york and you were the police commissioner in new york. i think you brought up this, other places think about it as well. here's what the governor of texas rick perry had to say about borders being insecure. >> i think there's the obvious great concern that because of the condition of the border from the standpoint of it not being secure and us not knowing who is penetrating across, that individuals from isis or other terrorist states could be, and i think, is a very real possibility that they may have already used that. >> is it a very real possibility or is that a domestic political issue and a governor using it maybe to make people concerned about a situation locally? a real possibility. >> it could be both. i think certainly, if there's operating assumption that we have to have that peopledom hurt us could come across the mexican border. >> the canadian border, right? >> the loss of entry points that are loosely guarded. yeah, i think the threat level has gone up, though it's remained relatively consistent since 9/11. some people think it's gone down. i don't think the law enforcement community or intelligence community thinks it's gone down, with the re-emergence of isis, training the foreign individuals to come here, and with this inspire magazine, which is an internet magazine that we've had 12 issues of. that is a how to magazine on how to commit terrorist acts, and used as far as the boston bombing. >> was thinking of boston when you said that. we're going to talk about this and isis in the show. some other topics we want to address, ferguson we've been talking about all week. and after going and protesting there, al sharpton is planning a protest in new york over a custody issue in staten island. and the new york teacher's union is siding with sharpton, this is getting attention today. they offered free transportation for members to support the demonstration tomorrow. your thoughts on that first all, talk about the incident on staten island. >> a pretty unusual split as far as the new york union world is concerned. the big issue in the teacher's union separate from the police union. usually in the controversial issues they will maintain a low profile. >> do you think it's appropriate? >> in this instance, i would prefer that they not be involved. >> you see this is anti-police, this protest. >> it is anti-police. they certainly have a right to demonstrate, hopefully it will go peacefully. it's surprising to see the unique alliance. >> what are your thoughts on this particular case, people are familiar with the focus on ferguson, maybe they're not. man at staten island who died in police custody and placed in what appeared to be a chokehold or bard, chokeholds by new york city standards are outlawed. is that what happened? is it as simple as that or more to it. >> it has to go before the grand jury. there are lots of witnesses. the officers have an opportunity to speak themselves. something happened in the scrum, you might say. >> it was all on video. >> lot of it was on video. we need the testimony of the people who were there to find out what happened, what was in the police officers's mind. i think the initial taking down a big person, 6'4", 300 something pounds, i saw that as appropriate. >> speaking of appropriate, you would be somebody evaluating this if you were in your old position. when you say chokehold, are there definitions for police that know what the lay person is looking at. if they're watching a video like that, may they be missing something that you are picking out. that is up to standards, something you pick up on. >> pressure impedes breathing is a conventional understanding of what a chokehold is. >> sure. that's what -- again, as you said, you're not going to venture to say what happened in this. to the naked eye, that appears officer in staten island. >> we'll see, the protest will go forward. >> another topic, the new mayor here bill de blasio at a crime data briefing which is another topic for mr. kelly. the police department data shows shootings in new york up 13% this year compared to last. so this data and the story in the city is this data shows shootings go up as stop and frisk policy in place when you were and mayor bloomberg were in office is being phased out. your thoughts. >> not be all and end all. lots of other operations in place. operation crew cut on gangs, operation impact you have officers that saturate areas. those have been kept in place, they've been relabeled but still doing essentially the work that was done by the previous. >> not a simple cause and effect. >> it is an important tool, and obviously police officers have reduced the use of this tool, and common sense says that eventually that's going to be -- >> more guns on the street because they are not taken away. >> or if you are prone to carry a gun, have you indications that less likely to be stopped and questioned over it. you may carry that weapon. >> de blasio points out the overall trend in crime hasn't changed, maybe gone down, it's the shootings. what shootings would go up as overall crime goes down. >> you need overall analysis of it. i would submit they keep programs in place from the previous administration, that's why crime continues to go down. and stop and question for us is an element, but not the answer to the crime issues. >> new york will be a place people are watching very, very closely this weekend. thanks for coming in tonight. former police commissioner of new york city. something defense secretary chuck hagel said we're all in the act for a long time to come. you'll hear it for yourself. keep it here. wondering what that is? 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>> well, you have to have people on the ground, in the air, you have to intercept finances, go after any resource that they have out there. and of course, you have to have the entire community of nations surrounding that vicinity and cooperation. have you some, but clearly not all at this point. connell: let me take the ground operations first, a lot of people like to focus on, do we need boots on the ground. when you say we need troops on the ground, where? in iraq, syria? in both places in order to take on isis? and if the goal is to eliminate isis completely? >> to eliminate isis you have to look them in the eye and kill them. the reality is that isis is all the way from aleppo in western syria. connell: right. >> north of baghdad. so a large area. we have to have a coalition of capable fighters. peshmerga has great capability. iraqis have great capability. but it's going to take more than that. you need the turks to go, in the jordanians and it would be nice to have a few other nations involved. not just u.s. people. >> the involvement of u.s. people that you bring up, would that be in in order to be effective a full-scale ground invasion? huge numbers of troops? or smaller numbers of troops that allow us to carry out as we're doing air strikes, more accurately or have more intelligence on the ground. what types of ground troops are necessary to move forward with that? >> the type of enemy we have is probably going embed itself in small towns, villages and the like. they have to be rooted out. their numbers right now, depending who's giving you the estimate 10,000, maybe 15,000. as long as it doesn't grow extraordinary from that point, you have to take small teams and go after them wherever can you find them. you have to have good intel. i'm not sure that the intel is the quality that we need right now, but, of course, we have people that are gathering that over in northern iraq, but as far as inside syria and where they are, especially eastern syria, i'm not confident about what we understand right now. connell: i've asked you up until this point all about tactics, that was your area of expertise. you've done a nice job of telling us what we might need to do. in terms of analysis with the conversation of former new york police commissioner ray kelly and thoughts and concerns that there might be a threat from isis here in our country in the united states, factoring all that in and plus overseas, should we do this in your view? >> i think so. al qaeda had a small group of people that penetrated our naivete years ago. these people are barbaric. they are the worst of the worst. they will do whatever necessary to kill us. we have to understand that. if we don't kill them there, they'll come here and kill us. >> were you -- just for a point of context, people were against the initial invasion in iraq, and might be for something now. where were you then? >> where have we been in regard to iraq or what? connell: yes, in other words did you support the initial reaction in iraq or against it and now for this or now taking action because of what's happened? >> i worked with the iraqis before the war. i encouraged the u.s. government directly with the iraqis to do it themselves, to go against saddam, and they -- once the bullets started to fly, of course, it was too late. connell: yeah. >> but right now, this is a threat. i think not only to that region but clearly across the globe, especially with the hundreds of thousands of self-identified jihadists that are embedded with isis, they'll come home and come home with ak-47's and killing mentality and go into malls and cities and wreak havoc. connell: that's what we were talking about a few minutes ago. lieutenant colonel, appreciate it. >> thank you. connell: will illegal immigrants bankrupt our schools. one arizona superintendent is speaking out. i know everybody misses neil on the program. this should hold you over until monday. you don't want to miss his one hour special, cyberwar game, inside look how training cybersoldiers of the future, that's tonight with neil cavuto only here on fox business. i had no idea i had shingles. there was like an eruption on my skin and burning. i'd lift my arm and the pain back here was excruciating. when i went to the doctor his first question was "did you have chickenpox?" i thought it was something that, you know, old people got. what would help is simply being able to recognize a fair price. that's never really been possible. but along comes a radically new way to buy a car, called truecar. now it is. truecar has pricing data on every make and model, so all you have to do is search for the car you want, there it is. now you're an expert in less than a minute. this is how car buying was always meant to be. this is truecar. ♪ . connell: the first state proposal for illegal immigrant aid is out, but could it only be the beginning as california governor jerry brown and democrats are seeking 3 million dollars to help migrant kids seeking legal help. and this comes on the news that arizona superintendent is warning an influx of illegal immigrants could bankrupt the school system with the costs running over 50 million dollars. we have fox business all-stars are on this, jolie, jonas and caylee mcc-- jonas is in the middle which is a good place politically to be. >> stage managed strateggery there. connell: the situation in california? >> the arizona superintendent is spot on, but admitting the illegal immigrants to the country, we are obligated to give education. 10,000 students being legalized -- given legal status means 10,000 students into the school system, 50 million dollars out of the state and that takes away from our children, american citizens are suffering in a broken education system, spot on, on this. >> kids are here regardless whether we're happy about it or not. what's the alternative? connell: what are we going to do with them now that they are here? >> put them on the streets and commit themselves to lives of crime. they have no way to make money when they are older because they have no access to education. >> that's not the argument about war, jonas, what do you think? >> any kid into the school system is a burden on the system. the public system is paid for by people with big houses, yeah, it's going to bankrupt the schools, prison costs more than schools deportation isn't free, they are here so they have the problem. we have another problem with not enough population growth to pay for social security. how can we have too little population growth and two more at the same time. >> idealistically i'd love to welcome every child who wants to be in the country into this country, we cannot have 60,000 children running across your border. that number is set to increase. this has to be stopped. children need to be -- unless they have legitimate asylum claims, they need to be matched up with parents and sent back. rule of law means something in this country. connell: what's happening in california, you commit to spending more money on the people that are already here versus do you want to devote your resources to keeping the people who are not here. >> california, to your point, is actually embarking upon seeing legitimate asylum claims. that's what the 3 million dollars is for to get legal help to determine whether they acquire asylum. as jonas said, what are you going to do once the kids are determined to have asylum? are you now not going to provide education for them? are you going to say look, you're a five-year-old kid? seven-year-old kid? you're on your own during the school day. what do you think they're going to do if they're not in school. >> it's not a problem, the problem exists because we can't make kids positive. we're never going to stop people from appearing. connell: talking about kids in general. >> kids have to pay their way through taxes, per kid tax to go into school, but the system has a hole in it, this is only exposing the system, more children. connell: regardless whether they are immigrant children or kids are in new york. >> not saying kids pay taxes, neither do kids. they're not my kid, other kids from el salvador, i don't want to pay for them. i don't have kids in my town. connell: like an 85-year-old saying my kids are grown and i don't want to pay for the kids now. >> the skols cost less and doesn't bankrupt us. >> education versus noneducation, if you are in the country, you are entitled to education. 60,000 children that have run across the border, that number is increasing where, does it end? border enforcement has to mean something. >> we have border enforcement, we have a law that allows them in thanks to george bush and the republicans who voted for him. connell: we have much more for all three of you coming up. what about the celebrities? have you seen this on tv allk l ferguson. the former entertainment anchor pat o'brien is here on whether it would be just better to keep quiet? ♪ connell: so the situation in freezing getting attention from more than just politicians in the media. a number of celebrities have been weighing in on the issue. you have probably been seeing this. spike lee, for example, did an interview. here is part of what he said. i just hope that things will follow up of the people are not happy with the verdict of this upcoming trial. former access hollywood host on may be whether this is smart for celebrities to weigh in. also the author of a new book called my will be right back after this which we will talk about in just a moment. you know, anderson cooper had him on cnn. what do you make of all of these celebrities to back every time their is a big event, and i am sure you have dealt with it. >> people get asked about things and you wonder whether they should be. >> i talk about it in the book. i don't mean that to promote the book, but these entertainment shows, they hijacked people. no matter what is going on they will go to a premiere. no matter who you are or what your doing it will say, what about the ferguson thing. what i they going to do, walk away from that question? so when they do answer they will go on and say they can write to us for their opinion. they lie about it. that is tragic. spike, you know what your getting. he is outspoken, and we love that. but, you know, you hope to get somebody on that knows what is going on. connell: you get people that legitimately go from entertainment to public service, but over the years have you run across some of these celebrities that are not worth asking about world events? >> angelina jelly is one. i don't even want to say believe it or not because she is an ambassador and she knows her stuff. right now the media is twisting the story. i should apologize to our but it's not my fault. george clooney is great. well educated upper much everything. you know, ben affleck, matt damon. the media, get some people on who are there. the best comments i ever read have been from school kids in the area who put it into perspective of how it affects their lives. and as young african-american boys and girls they can put some texture into it. connell: that's true of almost any story. when you go to the story. >> somebody called killer mike a couple of days ago. promoted him, some wrapper. he came out. i kept watching only because i was amused. i could not wait to see. he was terrific. he had a great perspective on it . but you can't just grabs celebrities of the red carpet and expect this to know everything. connell: your book. i am curious. i mean, i no -- >> my opinion on ferguson. connell: why not. why would we do this segment and then not ask you after all that. >> charles manson, the son of sam, lee harvey oswald to all these people were handcuffed. that's my perspective. connell: i know what your saying . we will watch to see how waco's and in. and the grand jury now looking into it. let me ask you, if you take a minute while we have some to ask you about not necessarily the specifics to bother you can talk about that. why you wrote it. was it because of other people, yourself? i know you talked about substance abuse. >> well, i wrote it because it -- first of all because i wanted my story to come out with my voice. there has been so much written and spoken about this guy. it's about the only get it got it right. but there's so much on with the plo. plus, a book about redemption and hope and recovery. the messages that people who drink do stupid things. i have done a few. i am confident you have not. and alcoholics do really stupid things. so that -- is a 400 page book premises is -- and it is a happy ending. there is help for people out there. it is a brain disease. but outside of that the book has all the stories senate. it is a good right. the bottom line is i am alive and i am here. connell: i'm sure everybody is happy about that. a lot of good celebrity stories. >> i don't call anybody out, really. i might, you have to read it. connell: good to see you. good luck with the book. good perspective on those issues. we will have coming up in just a moment the story that was in the news this week about twitter aggressively removing images of james foley's death from twitter pages. but terrorist organizations are still very active on social media. so we will talk about that how and whether or not it is hypocritical coming up next. she inspires you. no question about that. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. ♪ connell: next topic tonight is twitter taking on terrorism with the horrific images of james foley's murder by islamic militants telling viral. began pulling down some posts and in some cases eliminating user council. a lot was made of it. some critics saying if they are not taking a hard enough stance. the fox business all stars are back. good to see you. and it is interesting you probably know this. different social media platforms have different -- if you put something up on facebook it is hard to get away with it. twitter basically everything is out there. >> the internet likes to go as far as they can. you know, they want to be free. they don't want. the reality. the government gets involved . terrace. connell: just crazy people in general. >> you don't want to promote terror. given this stage. you want to do more. on the other end of the public does not know what they're doing, easier to recruit people. making them look bad. very easy tennessee both sides of this equation. the need to air on the side of less. connell: which is principally what they have tried to do over the years. you see this with robin williams, his daughter was on twitter and then walked away from it because people were just sending her terrible images after her father died. a poll those down question which is horrible, but i have to say i'm sure you get them, i certainly get horrible tweets on a daily basis. people just don't need them his daughter. connell: you would say you could block those people. >> you can block them or choose not to read them, but at the end of the day they have the right to send them. it's a lot greater. obviously that is a criminal act. how very torn. in terms of, overall. connell: where would you draw the line? >> i think firmly at promoting terrorism and a. so they have preempted these messages. however, they have nonstop terrorist organizations. hitler was right. there is no place for that type of speech. nine, zero, no place on facebook with their calling for israeli massacres. facebook sets its own standards. they have certain rules. by everyone standards. connell: companies will be able to say whatever they want. the question as we look in on them, let's say we are running twitter and having this conversation inside their board room. connell: what side of it would you take? what should we do? where should we be? >> it will probably side on what generates the most traffic. there is an issue. not as restrictive. connell: if they're is a market, created. >> too much screening. a third of the videos. that's not legal. >> draw the line. >> who gets to draw the line ? >> i agree. before people started treating me crazy crab i think that is a first amendment issue. i don't agree with it, but i think they should be allowed to say it. >> the use of twitter. even ferguson, people organizing. there are uses where people are taking twitter and because they are allowed to say what they want they're able to organize something that they feel is for the betterment of society or their cause. you start cutting down on that. >> this is a private company that sets standards. you cannot discriminate based on sex, race. if you're going to put that out there is your standard, follow through. there is no room for that. >> the community gets to comment. there is an upside to knowing where the evil lies. right now people want to know how recesses this area. if all a speech was removed from the internet. >> follow-through. of what we get really, nasty, horrible tweets. connell: two are all these people? 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we will close down before the protest starts. >> well, these people are trying to agitate and disrupted by warning businesses and getting them all upset over this thing. >> what is sharpton doing? what i you doing over there on a business street in the middle of a business day organizing 3,000 people to walk down the street. connell: i'm sure his point would be, well, that is where it happened, s.i. >> find a nice part for yourself. i am sure they have nice parks. that would be really nice. find your followers and have fun. you are disrupting the businesses. connell: would you do that? you know what, not even going to take the chance. >> why would you. someone throw a rock through your front window. he knows exactly what he's doing. in many senses the press encourages him by highlighting him. connell: what do you make of the way this has been handled. we were showing on the screen, one thing, some of story. a lot of people are coupling that together. this situation has from a political standpoint been tough for the new mayor to handle. he wants to be on every side . he does not want to be anti police were perceived that way. connell: he is the boss. at the same time he needs to be with the community. what you make of the way he has handled the new mayor? >> very similar to the governor of missouri. he is often never never land he has already prosecuted the poor policeman. connell: and made that comment last week. >> that nonsense. the political career comes first. why? why do we have to live with that? why? when the president comes to new york city everything has to stop. he has no regard for the little guy on the street. the same thing. he knows how to push the buttons. this guy, the press is not recognized it yet. discovery is irrelevant on the scene of the 21st century. what is going on in this country. they wrote him off a long time ago. connell: to do? >> the day after the election. they regretted the fact that they did not get out and vote and ended up with this guy. connell: he is a new mayor. the man he lost to running for governor is seeking in return. let me ask you a little bit. you are not running this time the local county executive is going to be the main opponent. if you look at the polls he will present. >> it will not be a cruise, but i think he still is the front-runner right now. that is an illustration of just how ill informed the public use and the disinterest. there are distracted by nonsense. connell: what are the missing? 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it's just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things..." ok, why's that? no hidden fees, from the bank where no branches equals great rates. ♪ connell: "biz blitz" time. it on wednesday iraqi minister of oil made a statement. we will look at part of it now. international purchasers of crude oil and other market participants should be aware that any oil exports made without authorization may contain crude originated from fields under the control of isis. with that we are back. we will address this issue. we have done stories about it or talked about it. i don't know that it resonates with people are not. >> they should. they should be particularly concerned. right now to refineries. that is just in iraq. the capacity could go up to 80,000 perris this is a huge source of revenue that is essentially funding terrorists. it is a frightening prospect. connell: something we can do about it? >> not really. a huge global energy crunch. we can't just buy oil from that region. the price is where the profits are coming from. we could recede as the oil infrastructure, but that will only make them angry and some most of the revolutions happen. >> i agree to the extent that sometimes we have topics like this. yes, we have to do something this is how we will get them. there is not really much we can do. all filling a power cars. >> there are longer-term issues. >> we should all drive tesla's. until that happens every time you fill up your gas tank your supporting saudis, i guess i asked, all sorts of the spots that he would probably rather not support. as the world we live in. it is a world market. we're certainly going to put people out of business. there really is no answer. >> this is his fault of way to realistic. >> this is something the president should do. an honors the terrifying prospect you have them taking the land, territory, not operating in shadows but out in the upper. connell: you're talking about military action. >> us with your basically saying. connell: the colonel that was on with us earlier. not only sang whitney to be more aggressive. are we going to go when? send forces? as he said, earlier to one if you really want to eliminate them, that is what you have to do. >> there is no level of aggression. there is no reason why the previous dictator gassed his own people. we would have to reinstall an evil dictator puppet regime or there will take over the country which is exactly the power vacuum. connell: we should have left and there in the first place . topics to, ukraine calling this a direct invasion. russia is driving a dozen trucks into the rubble held part of the country. russia responded saying trucks were being deliberately altered. maybe we come back monday morning and this is a bigger story. maybe it is one that affects the markets. this is an invasion and not an aid mission. >> wall street has written off the invasion. connell: it does not matter to them. >> probably thinks that ukraine will stop being a country. even the russian stock market is improving. higher than it was years and years ago. unfortunately it comes back. the financial power. these countries are not profitable . >> which will also go about and collapse the global economy. >> there are things and angela merkel is the hero in all this, she led the western response to putin. there is something you can do because the british won't let us do it and the europeans won't let us do it. assets are all in the city of london or swiss banks and new york city. >> or the people in the -- not the people we've gone after. >> no, no, we've gone after the head of this company and this company. we're talking about the people financing vladimir putin's personal lifestyle. 150 people, seized their assets. >> third topic, and kelly, to you first on whether or not the real recovery is on or not in the economy. protesters at the fed's annual convention today were asking where is my recovery? the fed chair janet yellen in a keynote speech that the recent rapid decline in the unemployment rate overstates america's economic health. which means that the job market is not where it's supposed to be or something. what do you make of where we are in the economic recovery, end with this point? . >> to janet yellen's credit, she said the labor market hasn't improved to the point we want it to. she has said that. she was light on it. i would like to see stronger language. the economy is in shatters. the lowest since 1978. the economy double digit employment for young people. the economy is still in trouble. >> is that right, jonas? that characterization? >> shatters? no. >> for young people it is. >> certain people. >> i invest in the -- corporations. >> what i'm trying to say is longer fed policy is the limit to the job market it. has the created a huge asset boom, it is generated a lot of corporate profits on a lot of levels and have time to cool it down. unfortunately week have an underlying job problem that's not going to go away with federal reserve policy. >> we have to tell everyone about neil's big show. neil, tonight neil cavuto, you can see him, he has a big special that you will be able to catch 11:00 p.m. eastern. fox business network hosting a special called cyber wargame, tonight "cavuto" 11:00 p.m., fox business. thanks for watching tonight. good to be with you, neil will be back next week. kennedy: there are so many forms of public assistance available from welfare to disability insurance to medicaid and food stamps, and with the diminished assistance, people aren't receiving aid. other are trying to game the system so they don't have to work at all. whatever the case, those most in need are never fully supported when the systems are stretched to the limit. the consequences can be disastrous and programs are difficult to change. how does welfare assess poverty and vice versa? 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