point out before any of that we were still $70 trillion in the red as a species. so this notion we can all hang it on the meltdown. the sheer size and acceleration of the debt is remarkable and scary. seven years ago the u.s. government that was about or $.5 trillion. it is three times that now. seven years. what will it be in another seven years? what happens on the cost source? they shielded us from a lot of the pain. not all the pain. consider this, just one or 2% uptick in interest rates will add trillions of red ink here, there, everywhere. conservatives gathered in washington talked a lot about it but even tea party favorites who paul very well are not offering many specifics to deal with it. but someone is going to have to, and soon because this is about of the western world out to lunch, this is guys like putin who see us as the bombs we have become and enjoy eating our lunch. this is a global security issue, john mccain will tell you when you're in over your head, don't be surprised some not so friendly folks kick you in the you know what. the senator, former president a candidate joins us now. >> it is good to be with you. neil: i think these figures are numbing. they seem paltry by comparison. >> it was extremely low. neil: was sort of slipped past it. >> it is something that seems to me it is so big we haven't the wherewithal or the guts to address it. every time we propose some measure, we sort of leave it alone area did we conservatives have not done enough, but i believe really the only way you're going to force it, i know this sounds simplistic, but an amendment to the constitution. it is awfully hard to get around a constitutional amendment. we can get on the other path, that means entitlement reform. nobody want to touch entitlement reform. neil: nobody spelled out, none of the real hits last week. when it came to the living adjustments, but they don't do that. >> let me give you. sequestration was across-the-board cuts. that exempted certain functions of the government, laid 50% on 90% of the budget which is defense, i believe was incredibly damaging to defense, but that, in all due respect, is not a courageous act when you say we will have across-the-board cuts because you throw out the baby with the bathwater. neil: you cannot decide. >> sequestration i believe was an admission of failure to attack the areas, god knows there is waste and excess. neil: you will commit over doing nothing? >> i would not do what we have done to defense. when you exempted so many branches of government and institutions and then 50% defense, 50% nondefense, really cut well over 50% that came out of defense spending rather than across the board. the other thing is look at what is happening in the world today. should we really be cutting defense? in my view we should be doing the opposite. neil: where would john mccain get the money for that? >> i would reform entitlement. they came out together, the two old irishman 70 fix social security and it will be tough. they raised taxes, they raise retirement age. they made concessions. i think we should be willing to come up with a package that puts social security and medicare back on the path. look, you have to put everything on the table, if you don't put everything on the table the auction site says we will not agree to raising retirement. neil: have adduced in the new style. is all about being honest. that kind of strategy has gotten us nowhere. ted cruz. >> of course all of us remember president dole and president mccain and president romney. those are good men, decent man, but when you don't stand and draw a clear distinction, when you don't stand for principal, emma craddick celebrate. neil: what you think of that? >> it is all fare in politics and senator cruz who i have a cordial relationship with. neil: cordial means cool. >> we are okay. only to be from the after that. >> i see what do that to me, fine, but bob dole? bob dole worked hand in glove with ronald reagan. all these people will claim they are ready republicans. they forget ronald reagan gave amnesty to 3 million americans? do they forget he raised taxes, that he made an agreement with chip o'neil on social security? ronald reagan said 11th commandment is you don't speak ill of your fellow republicans? i don't think, he would recognize the party, but i don't think he would be in lockstep with what is being advocated here. if you're not with me 100% of the time, then you are against me. he says some is with me 80% of the time, i am with it. neil: they are barometer for the time being. three antiestablishment for one of the better term republicans. what do you make of that? >> it is a very active segment of our party, we should be an inclusive party. i will point out nobody has ever on the straw poll winning the nominee of the party. but there is a legitimate place. have to have a more respectful dialogue. i understand their frustration. neil: i think we are going to crush them everywhere, don't think they will have a single nominee anywhere in the country. that might be his opinion, did he mean to think it and not say it? >> i can't speak for him. neil: is that right? >> the tea party is a strong force particularly in primaries. they just won 41% in texas. the opponent was not a very viable candidates to say the least. so i think what our job should be is say look, come in and let's be inclusive, let's have this discussion amongst ourselves but let's not litmus test each other as long as we share principles and values and goals. that is what i want to do with the tea party. does not help me to beat up on them. what i will say if someone criticizes bob dole, there's no reason for that. neil: that is where i want to get a little personal with you. all you have been through, when i hear anyone, and it could be a person on the street questioning their principal with all the hell you have been through, i think i would pass with guys like you. i might go with guys like me, but i just don't think that is the battle. >> senator cruz said that is not what he meant. for me to get into a fight with him is not the way i think the best way. neil: they are all bonded in this respect, what does he mean by that? >> someone like susan collins or others from northeastern states which the constituency is much more centrist than may be in the state of texas or even arizona or south carolina. if we are going to have a majority, we have to have a big ten. there are some who say they're more likely to be in a minority and fewer than have the bigger. neil: guys like chris christie fall like a rock. >> i still think he is viable. a successful republican and a democrat state. neil: med rummy was a successful republican and a democrat. >> i think he got beat for whole lot of reasons, but he was still the nominee of our party, the consensus of the majority of republicans, and so if again if senator cruz thinks there is a better candidate, run a depth. i am a proud reagan republican, i will support a nominee who goes through the process of winning all these primaries, i know how tough it is, i will support that nominee. neil: would you ever want to go through it again? >> i loved every moment of it. there are upsides and downsides, but the honor to travel this country as the nominee of your party, i am a guy fifth from the bottom of his class at the naval academy. neil: whatever happened to that kid? >> i'm the luckiest person you will ever interview in your life. i've had the greatest moments. neil: do you want to run again? >> i'm afraid it is not a viable option. but i do want, for present i don't want to run. i'm considering running again for my senate seat and i will decide early next year. neil: a lot of these guys are the same ones who populate the town hall meetings don't want you to run again. >> i can sense the people of my state. when i travel around, which i do constantly, they like me, and i am very grateful. neil: you are straight shooter. it depends on the day with your kids, doesn't it? sunday the kind of like them and other days i want to sell you. >> this world is more dangerous because of effective leadership by this president. weakness of american power. watch the south china sea, look and see, i pray put in the stop of into eastern ukraine, but i think he is trying to figure out right now if he should or not. first, the fundamental reevaluation and reassessment of vladimir putin. he is not a nice guy. he is an old kgb colonel. tell him i will be more flexib flexible, he missed judges this guy terribly. as long as you understand him for what he is and how he's going to act, let's go back to ronald reagan, peace through strength i'm very worried about the perception and the slaughter in syria, the south china sea, this whole issue in ukraine going on. watch these other opec countries because putin wants to restore abroad. neil: senator, always good to see you. we will have a lot more coming up including a former tea party senatorial candidate who may not agree with everything the good senator is next. and later on this show, drones your doorstep? 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you had states during the recession who had people run out of employment benefits with community college taking one or two classes a maximum student loans go into debt and not get any closer to finishing their college degree or getting a career. the structure is a challenge causing people to get in tens of thousands of dollars worth of debt and still not change the economic destiny. neil: say they get this off the rich, is that going into a lockbox? >> where is the last lockbox? is there going to be a war on lockbox for the upper bracket? it is not like they are 20 years old, they are in their 60s or 70s working and lifetime to pay off their own debts. why should they be funding and loaded college system? >> the challenge challenge is tt how it affects the college education. let's keep interest rates low, which is a great idea. but they don't change how students worked their way through college. >> and they don't change how it is paid on. the senator is either oblivious or skeptical. the federal student aid has shot up as college tuition has shot up. neil: the more aid you get, the more they feel emboldened. >> what do they spend their money on? not lowering tuition. where as many going going to these colleges? >> one thing we would miss, what you have is students can take out up to a max of the student loans and pay for the expenses, you have them using it to get by in this recession not for direct cost of education. it is nice to say colleges spend all this money. the truth is colleges try to talk students out of taking the maximum but we have no right to refuse them that. what you are seeing is a damn with cracks in it and we're say to keep interest rates low like adding water. the challenge is unless you address how the students going to debt, thousand dollars going to students who really don't comprehend responsibility of what will happen down the line. that is why you have it affecting all parts of the economy if they can complete college and if they can buy a home, if they can start in life. neil: if i am wrong i will chew up this and it will disappear. thank you very much. mainstream media, thank you for getting on board this gm recall. we have been lonely and wondering what else didn't they know: it is gm and what else didn't they report? 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is this sun mia culpa, with 13 driver deaths, a bit too little, a lot too late? sending out notices today even though they knew about the problem 10 years ago, we've been pounding this issue relentlessly on the show. our next guest, joan, your argument then, i would assume, got to get pushing hard for answers, have you learned anything over the course of these last couple of weeks that brings you closer to why we had this delay? >> not really, but we've asked for a lot of things that will get us to the answers, a inspector general investigation. and we today sene letter consumer safety groups to heads of the senate commerce commity and house commerce committee in u.s. congress, and asked to hold problem hearings, we ask an individual has been appointed who is a former prosecutor to do internal general motors investigation, and we have asked to be consulted by this individual as they do their investigation, and that report of his be made public. so, and we're waiting for the answers that the national highway traffic safety administration asked of general motors that general motors has to respond to shortly. neil: no always --al -- after the fact. we get company executives who are hands on until problem start now we hear from head of gm and others with vital positions overseeing the various divisions, including where this occurred, do you believe that? >> well, if mary berra the head of general motors does not know the whole story by now, then i think she is losing her grip, she needs to understand what happened, she needs to take action to make sure this never happens again, that is why she has asked for this big investigation. in the meantime i'm sure she has learned a lot and she will learn more when general motors finishes framing its answers to the national highway traffic safety administration and sends them on. she will have to review that we'll see. neil: you are telling me boater part get -- better part is get it out right away down dilly dally. >> absolutely, heads have to roll in this case. both at department of think i -- and nhtsa and general motors if they don't take action no one will believe them the next time. and also, other issue is that you know general motors was sued several times back in mid -- 2006, '07 period when a company is sued it gathered its data and knows what is going on. >> right. >> i don't know why at that time they did not initiate a recall to try to stop the deaths and lower likely head of punitive damages and pen ate from the government. atpenalties from the government. neil: have you been remark an just following this joan, i would love to see you back thank you. >> okay thank you. neil: from drivers to drones, my only question, how do you tip a drone? a judge ruled that faa has no jurisdiction over commercial drones does that mean it is just a matter of time before drones are dropping off packages at our door. leslie, let's say this clears drone drop offs for you how would you go about using them. >> well we still need to do quite a bit oftivities, to work out bugs, but this could be a viable option for us. neil: i don't understand highway this works, let's say i order something from you. would a drone then like parachute is down on my front yard or, how does this work? >> we put the gps coordinates, we enter them into the navigation sim, and we dispatch the drone, it lands and you retrieve the package, and off the drone goes back to from once it came. neil: no chance here, that to either of you, something gets screwed up and it launches a missile on the roof of my house. >> maybe your house. >> go ahead, jack. . >> a 5 meter gps possibility of mistake, so it has to be -- a l.a.p.d. within5 meters of that -- it will land within 5 meters of that pinpoint, that is a little bit spooky that is why we were test ocean frozen lakes with ice fishing houses you are not trying to land in someone's front yard. neil: do you think that just one has to go wrong or hit machine on the head, and all mets are off? >> there have been accidents already, so that is why they are being so careful about the faa regulations. that is why they appealed it friday regulations are back, you know, holding right now, we were all wait to the lake friday, to start again, and then we got a call that faa, had appealed. so we went home. neil: all right. >> that is a $10,000 fine. neil: if you can extend this to pizza we're off to the races, thank you so much, back after this. gunderman group is a go. yes! not just a start up. an upstart. gotta get going. gotta be good. gotta get good?. good. growth is the goal. how do we do that? i talked to ups. they'll help us out. new technology. smart advice. we focus on the business and they take care of the logistics. ups? good going. we get good. that's great. great. great. great. great. great. great. great. great. 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>> i'm sorry, again? >> what should be message for those of us what worry about travelling abroad. >> the bottom line, message is, you go the do be nervous, i'm nervous, we have a issue that out there. s -- it is the rare situation where we end up with a catastrophic accident like this, that is the only time we sit ub, politicians and make notice of this kind of a problem. but travelling public should rift assured in some ways that triple 7 that went down. is a terrific plane. and you know, i worked on these, major catastrophic failures, for this one, i can tell you, i believe evidence will points to you have an i an instain -- instantous catastrophic failure. i'm leaning toward some terrorist activity. neil: we shall see thank you for taking the time, this particular development is disturbing. a lot of have you made up your mind on who you want to see run in 2016. >> i would like to see christie run. >> hillary. >> rub rubio looks interesting. >> hillary appears a lock for democrats. >> i don't think that anybody has the leadership that this country needs. >> you might be missing somebody. a contendor, after this. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. it's not the "juggle a bunch of rotating categories" card. it's not the "sign up for rewards each quarter" card. it's the no-games, no-messing-'round, no-earning-limit-having, do-i-look-like-i'm-joking, turbo-boosting, heavyweight-champion- of-the-world cash back card. thiss the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere, every single day. now tell me, what's in your wallet? new line neil: republicans are always trying to find their next ronald reagan, he could appear in most unusual places, including governor from kansas, you stan out with a little tea party in you, conventional party in you, you skipped you on on cpac, what did you think of teaz ted cruz's swipe at bob dole? >> i don't appreciate it. bob dole is a great american, a wonder follow man, he led the senate for a good period of time. neil: the tea parties saying, electing moderates -- doesn't cut it? >> i think you have to we sao what landscape says at that . -- at that time, you do not speak poorly of fellow republicans, reagan had a lot of moderates in the peter,. party. so you are looking at he is a happy conservative which is what i like. neil: they need to unite the two maybe conventional wing, and rinos, and tea parties, both sides saying nice things about you, but i think that nominee has to be someone that both sides can find common ground with. they have often said that about you. >> probably. neil: do you think it is that kind of guy ear woman? >> i don't know, i think it is way too early snow we have 2016 commercials going. >> i heard, but you know, i'm focused on reelects. neil: are you interest sned. >ed? >> no, i'm focused on 2014 reelection. neil: would you entertain it? >> i am focused on 20114 reetion for governor of the great state of basketball, i don't know if i mentioned that? that? neil: yes, you did, i'm gettin get sick of it. >> you have so many people that really, troubled about what is going on in the country, they are so mad, and scared and fearful, they want to throw a brick. instead of saying, how do you pull together away coalition of people, and appeal to independence, and pass the barbecue test? that is you know, do i want to have a barbecue with this guy that is running for president of the united states, that is -- it is hard but, i think it will be real important, i think we may get a chance because of the problem of obamacare. neil: we'll see, governor a real pleasure. >> my pleasure. neil: enough of the basketball. all right, when we come back, what is the deal with richard simmons and me? 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don't wait to ask your doctor about spiriva. time to take care of business with century link's global broadband network and cloud infrastructure. we constantly evolve to meet your needs every day of the week. >> neil: it's what everybody wants to go. >> what's the deal neil. neil: and my deal with obsessing with all this spending, ron wants to know. -- clint in l.a., so what we spend more than we take in. welcome to america moron, most governments do, most families do, if most per merrill i walk off a cliff do they still not all die? when we hear that global debt, now exceeds $100 trillion that is clear the world is on fire. i worry about this stuff because bills can be delayed but not denied. all printing money in world can note safe the world, john, neil i believe many listens are confused who two terms of used so often. that is a very good points, john. and deficit refer to spending that exceeds government receipts, that is tax revenues. no deficits piled on to debt, which is a compilation of those deficits over many years, that is why i saying more the issu washington chest pumping on deficits going down, because we've gone from a trillion dollar deficit to $600 billion still means we're spending $600 billion more than we're taking in which gets piled on debt which interest costs alone, george in california, love the schoeck sip for what's the deal -- love the show eexcept for what's the deal, you are e-mails me! i know that. all right, got it, george, this health care law is not helping things, tim, your first question for proponents of so-called affordable care act should be have they enrolled and subjected them semps and their families to -- subjected themselves and their families, we always try, do they eat their own cooking? we noticed how all in washington politics did everything possible to avoid eating their own meal. a good sign. kylie e-mails, you know, why god gave us two ears and one mouth, to listen twice as much as we speak you stupid duff u.s. -- diewf us. roger, said, that ratio does not apply to rambling liberal gifts. -- guests. >> roy e-mails me, by the way, this u.s. is not apply to wives. don, enough of the batman superman. have you lost your focus? who is left to lead the battle over depiction of men as simple tons on our test test commercials have you gotten soft on this matter ever since richard simmons kissed you. >> i want to climb on this desk so bad. >> i wish you would not. >> i want you to sit down, i enjoy you too. >> well, that was a "trouble in toyland survey" eling moment, it has not deter by -- that was a troubling moment. neil isny favorite perch on tv. -- is my favorite person on tv. >> collide in washington, i watched you for years, you are now my favorite on fox news, you look good at any age, fat is something to add to taste to anyone we eat. knowing and enjoying -- >> are you saying that i'm fat. >> what is the deal with having so many foot maniacs on the show, i can only assume it is lent, neil is doing penance. and deal with tweets. i am still building this rocket, i'm so fed up, hair or foe hair. no hair, neil, stop bitching. then this, what is your record for the number brownies eaten at one sitting? 712. and i had a big lunch. so it could have been more. those are e-mails keep home coming. with anything you have on your mind. we'll address it. economic questions. but personal questions, to a limit. to a limit. but this interrupting thing, i must stress, this does not apply too to our wives, i the other way around, it is fine. from my wife, at least. see you tomorrow. >> as you settle into you're snifter of single malt, to avoid coat av fee in our nation's capital are they putting together a aid package to ukraine? no, they are in their jammies and slippers, pulling an all nighter, sipping cocoa talking about a big problem. can a sleepless night on the senate floor, turn the tide on global climate change? a good night,

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