Be serious. Here is what made today interesting, indication that administration and others pushing it knew it would be in trouble. And went full throttle with it just the same, welcome im neil cavuto. She may take the blame. A bust that Kathleen Sebelius saw coming, but backers saw coming as well. What were they thinking . To Louisiana Republican senator, david vitter still trying to figure that out and more. I was not encouraged. Were you . No, a lot of promises but nothing changed in terms of reality. You have leading Democratic Senators like max baucus going after her, this is serious. It should be. This roll out this product is a bust. Neil have any of your colleagues gone to say, particularly the democratic ones, all right, you are the reason, you have to go . Several republicans including me have said that, i dont think any democrats have said. But you are seeing some khinks in thagin the armor. Neil do you think this thing, as we know it, the it is dead . Al out, prohibited prices for folks, a lot of folks who are switching, it is not wit ready r primetime, they will start over or democrats fighting tooth and nail . Well, i would certainly not say it is clear that its either dead or up for major revisions, there is a lot of rhetoric, talk and promises, but no major changes to the law, the left is still dug in over it i dont think we can declare that victory now, at all. But this law certainly based on roll out is trouble. Neil reality is, many folks are paying more, about 4 million fewer americans have coverage since before the law became the law, now reports out yesterday, continuing today, tens of millions of americans on corporate plans might be jettisoned or placed into public exchanges a year from now. That does not sound like a law that is sort of picking up steam or helping people more. No, it is gone from bad to worse so far, in louisiana, over 9,000 people losing the 90,000 people losing the plans they had, they want to keep, they are getting their cancellation notices now. This a disaster. And to rub salt in the wound, washington gets an exemption, that is outrageous, that is just rubbing salt in the wound. Neil do you think looking in retrospect, the shut down, debt crisis, was a waste of time. How bad the law was, and that at least in virginia uit cost the republican candidate what could have been a doable pick up there . Neil, who knows, the concern for me and a lot of folks, if we allowed this to be implemented, if we did not do something by october 1 it would grow works, there are not many entitlement programs that are implemented that are then uprooted and thrown out. I think that the number is zero. That was the concern. But this could be the exception of the rule, i hepit is, the problem with a hope it is, the problem are enormous. Thank you senator vitter. Thank you, neil. Neil since administration is fond of comparing itself to apple and its product roll out maybe it might want to take a real queue from apple. When apple has bumps on new product launches it fixes them and fast. And by the way, folks do have a choice whether to buy apple or not, but with the hel health cae thing, well no. It proves that costs dont always have to go up, if you have a go the operation, and a good product, costs tend to go down. Who warned about these differences, were trueing the day. If you compare obamacare to an apple product, you have the cost problem. It is going to cost too much for the nation. It has not bent the cost curve. Premiums going up, budget cost is going the wrong direct, a web site 618 million does not work. They have a big cost problem. Neil do you think not only poorly marketed. But they did not appreciate their audience, who they were reaching out. To it is not apple figures out who will buy this and why they need it, and et cetera. But this not really, despite the three years in coming are not rationalized. They did not do the market research. You look at young, everyone says they are the key, they are not buying insurance now, those who were buying insurance, if you ask them as a consumer, what is your price point, suppose they raise your premium by 30 , 40 said, i would drop my insurance. They are not going to get subsidies that administration thought, and they have a problem. They say, were through the worse of the problem. And kathleen seb can b sebeliusg were Getting Better every day, hang in there, you say . I say, they have a web site problem, but that is not the real problem. The product is the problem, it costs too much, and will continue to cost a lot. Neil they say that cost goes down as more comes in you say that is not holding up . It is not, it will cost more compare last year to next year for young invincibles in particular, we have regulations and passes, these raise the cost of health care, that is their core problem that not going away. They like everyone else is counting on technological innovation to save us in health care. You have the insurance industrr looked into regulation, they could not come up with a new policy if their life depended on it. Neil do you think in retrospect, the shut down adjust your argument that Health Care Law itself. This took the eye all that ball cost the virginia governorship and much more. The virginia governorship was closer because of the problem. Always good seeing you thank you. Before start saying that Health Care Month trosty is toast, have you seen how the main thing media has been making a post elect here is their argument. Terry mcauliffe is a inner that proves that healthcare law is not a loser. Really . Pad goodell says, silly. You really love, what would you do . 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This is amazing this race was so close, occur, you had cuccinelli a far right candidate, then a mainstream, Terry Mcauliffe outspent him by 20 million. Third, shut town hurt, a third of voters said their families were affected they voted for ter for by over 20 points, you look at what happened because cuccinelli was so far behind Terry Mcauliffe had a 12 point lead in post poll after consensus, 8 or 9, no, this thing was so close, and reason is, is that, health care. I mean you look at correlation, healthcare. If this if the republican had a narrative on healthcare if the roll out problem, i think that obama numbers are wire seeing he is down under 40 in gallup yesterday. I have not seen todays numbers. You look at that, what happens, i think this thing about keeping your health care this this spin, this absolute amazing this Shows Healthcare is popular . My god, ii this campaign had been on the last for 2 more weeks or another week with some her sauces put in resources put in Terry Mcauliffe would have lost, and lieutenant governor, if any other arent except a person who was so vulnerable because of his social position, had been running, Terry Mcauliffe would have been toast. Neil ad there not been a libertarian candidate in the race. Let plea get to that point, 7 of vote, about 7030 split for republican, and stories this morning that democrats, helped finance this the republican are politically inept, a lib tear yen took it away, that alone would have done it. The long and short, if democrats, think, if i if this happened in be oed in one o weeks of obamacare what do you think 14 looks like. Neil they are hoping that maybe americans will get over this, next year the real pickle develops this is the employer mandate and all of that. And the adjustment that a lot of fortune 1000 companies, Big Companies have to make with their plans, it could be worse . It could keep unraveling, every day is something new, we find out something different. But the administrations position, which is were allowed, i lied to you but it is okay because im barack obama, democrats position, is well, you were on lousy plans, and by the way well give you, you know this stuff, when you made a commitment to people, the web site will get fixed. But there is no security. I dont mean to jump, but what does this mean for turnover in house, and turnover in democrats says nancy pelosi say we can retake the house. I think this is up in the air. Everything is up in the air politically, christies victory, Chris Christie yesterday got 57 , 15 point win with women, carried a majority of hispanics in the blue state of new jersey, and carried moderates, cuccinelli carried moderates but christie carried them heavily, this is this is a i dont think that anything is happening but, people are voting for candidates or races, on the local level, but i want to tell you, nationally eeverything is up in the air, and the discontent with both parties is great. But i want to tell you, democrats trying to claim that virginia is a victory, what they were expecting . This is incredible. This is whistling past the graveyard. Neil thank you patrick. So colorado shoots down a tax hike. American are telling politicians it give taxes a hike . Why new York Democratic congresswoman karl maloney is not see carroll m maloney is not seeing it that way. This is the quicksilver cash back card from capil one. Its not the limit the cash i earnvery month card. Its not th i only earn decent rewards at the gas station rd. Its the nogames, nosigning up, everydayrewding, kungfufighti, silverlightninginabottle, bringinghomethecon cash back card. This is the quicksilver card from capital one. Unlimited 5 cash back on eve purchase, everywhere, every single day. So ask yourself, whats in your wallet . The only people who feel there shouldnt be more coming in t to the federal government e the rich people. Harry reid saying that then, with colorado voters, shooting down a tax hike, are democrats still thinking that now . To democratic congresswoman Carroll Maloney who has doubts. All politics is local, i am. Ot commenting on colorado in new york, new yorkers overwhelmingly elected bill deblasio who ran on a clear record of increasing taxes to help invest in educational system. And future of our students and new yorkers in america. He won overwhelmingly with one of the largest wins since ed koch. Neil a 50 point win or close to it. Is that a mandate for higher taxes, it is higher taxes on wealthy, are you for that . I think everything needs to be looked at in context. It has to go through state legislature. Neil would they approve it. I dont know, you cant say, you cant say nothing will happen, or otherwise why would goveenment act . Were working toward a vision or a goal, always looks impossible. On my 9 11 health and compensation bill, i networked 9 years to pass i worked 9 years to pass the bill. So you have to have a vision and goal, investing in education is something that is important for new york state. Neil if that is the route you go . Do you do it by taxing the rich . I believe our governor mar gro mariocuomo. Is doing it. Neil how do you think he gets along with the new mayor. I think they get along they have to. Neil why didnt you unemploy so many prominent names. Im a recent widow that is a big change in my life it is very difficult for myself and my daughters. Neil i feel as i said before, sympathies are with you, i look at the final race, the republican candidates and democratic candidates, and who emerged on both sides, this is one of the most important cities in the planet. It is the most important city. Neil i understand. And the best. Neil i agree. And the greatest. Neil this is the best we produce . Its weird . Well, we keepptrying, and voters spoke for bill deblasio. Neil but so many prominent names opted out, this new york city version of 1992, bill clinton only guy rail running for president. And he won. No one thought he would. But do you think that was it, why did so many big names opt out . You have to ask them, everyone has their own personal reasons, i shared mine with you. Neil yeah, because here is a concern they have, deblasio, i hear this from you know the big money powers that be. In manhattan. And elsewhere banks and hedge fund types and rainmakers, that he will compounding on them, making this an inhospital able place to live and work it the chase them away, what do you say . I dont believe that, i believe he is a intelligent, hard working person, i have worked with him on a lot of issues when he was chairman of government welfare commit for citycouncil. And on other campaigns, he chaired Hillary Clinton a race for the senate. So i worked with him, he is committed and hard working. He loves his city, i think he will sit down and work on the best is he more pragmatic than he sounds he sounds like a friendly version of carl marx. He just got elected, give him a chance, i dont even believe he knows what kind of mayor hell be. He has a vision here, has a plan. He has a ability and a number of really wonderful people helping him. And all of these business guys, on my show, who are frantic and nervous, like oh, my gosh. They should talk to him, and express their concerns, and figure out how to working in for the city, they have a legitimate stake in the city, they are part of what makes city great, were the Financial Capital of the world, lets keep it that way, were not going to remain in this situation unless we have a strong and vibrant private sector. Neil that seems to be your gentle way of go slow mayorelect. I say give him a chance. I thhnk all new yorkers have to help him, i think he is open, he is energetic, he carries about not only the live billy of the City Liveability of the city, but equally too and find education. Neil all right, very well put, congresswomaank you very much. Thank you. Neil you think that the tea party is toast after getting shut out yesterday . You should hear from a tea party titan who says anything but, today. So we could be a better, safe energy company. I can tell you safety is at the heart of everything we do. 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Gina, with defeat of crucial congressional elect in alabama, what happened to Ken Cuccinelli in virginia, that is why they come to that view. You say, not so fast, why . Well, first of all, look at the money, always follow the money in these things. Cuccinelli was outspent by 15 million, candidate inn alabama ou outspent 5 to 1. That is all about money, if this sayy anything to the american voter, it says hop onboard, call it what youment, a tea party or not that is just a name, i say hop onboard with people who want to fight the elite in washington, d. C. Neil we have chatted about this before. You think that the shut down actually got people off message . Your concerns about ealthcare law, which is coming home to roost now, they never got it because the shut down got in the way. It hurt cuccinelli that was valuable time wasted. It might have been a distraction, but if republicans had stuck to gguns it would not have been, what real people business is leadership, they just wan leadership. Neil you sound like Chris Christie. That is something about christie, he does have ta leadership however low hard. Neil tea parties dont like him. He does not stand for tea party values. He said he does, what gets your goat. He has never been pressed by the establishment on take a stand on for example amnesty, he is not the tea party brand. Neil you are not in crowd that said if tea partiers stop talking about social issues they would get further. I time, tai talk to them, i was talking to someone in my hotet last night, he said, i know your perspective, you dont want to pay for anyone, your party is party of greed . Well were taking that to the national level, and say it is all about the money . That is how the democrats top paint us, were democrats want to paint us,were about having come path for people, saying you need help let me help you, looks into whites of eyes rather than saying let me toss that over to government, how income pat passionate. If you have the you might be more amen able to them but didnt you dont hear that you are not . There are a lot of values we need to think about. It has a lot to do with our platform, stick to what we the people as grassroots have established. Neil you are not afraid you willer to meado republicans who could er t torpedo republican . No they can win by sticking to the constitutions. I dont think that i dont think that establishment should bank on that, they bank on that elect after election. They say well get the conservatives they will come along with our candidate, because it will be better than the democrat, they better be careful this time. Neil they stay home. They do. And cuccinelli is a perfect proof. He it not mot motivate his base. He lost by not taking on the social issues. Neil and the shut down . It cost him in a governmentheavy state. I dont know about that, i think it was more him not speaking about what he really believed in. He was not willing to stand for the social issues, made them wonder, is he going to stand hard on the issues . A lot of people in virgin