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a stadium in hanover, germany, has been evacuated. a soccer match between germany and the netherlands that was to take place has been canceled due to what is called a concrete security threat. fox news's rick leventhal with the the latest on this and the ongoing raids in paris. rick? reporter: we want to let viewers know off the top this is apparently a false alarm. we're told by authorities no explosives were found and no arrests have been made. it is example how on edge this nation and entire continent is. not just france but all of europe. very, very concerned about the possibility of follow-on terror attacks. this was supposed to be a friendly match between germany and netherlands. the chancellor of early germany was scheduled to attend. 9 9-- 90 minutes before kick off the game was canceled what the police chief said credible information about explosive attack inside of the stadium. we got a lot of reports about the possibility of explosives being found, possibility of a man held at gunpoint and second stadium evacuated where a concert was set to be held. we're now learning through the news agency afp, there have been no explosives found and no arrests made. obviously very good news especially considering the attacks here in paris began with three suicide bombers who set them office off outside the stayed de france staid did he france, where 80,000 people were in attendance. 10 french fighter jets launching more sorties. they hit seven targets last night. 10 on sunday. two dozen more fighter jets are headed to region this week to increase the aerial bombardment. french police announced they are looking for another unidentified suspect who they think was directly involved in friday's terror attacks. we know seven terrorists who were here either killed themselves or killed by police in those attacks. an eighth man was spotted leaving, caught near the belgium border. he was released. that man is being sought. there is another suspect who hasn't been identified by name or with photo, melissa, that they're looking for here. there could be others. hunt continues with anyone who has connection to what happened friday night. melissa: rick, thank you very much for that report. david: let's go to belgium. the investigation is heating up there. the prime suspect is still on the run. reports are suggesting that police found bullets and suspected bomb-making chemicals at homes of two men held in suspicion of the france terrorist attacks. fox news's benjamin hall joins us now. ben? ben, can you hear me? we're having a little bit -- there is some severe storms all over europe. they're hitting belgium right now. as soon as we reconnect with ben we'll get back to him. first we want to go back to the home front. house speaker paul ryan calling on congress to paws funding for syrian refugee program in the u.s. as concern about refugees being part of the paris terrorist attack. fox business's peter barnes in d.c. with the details. peter? >> reporter: reports of blocking efforts to allow 10,000 refugees into the u.s. with at leaves reports of one terrorist may have entered greece as refugee from syria. house republicans are pushing a task force to study the refugee program pour weaknesses. they may take other steps and called on the administration to wait before admitting more syrian refugees before then. >> responsible thing is to talk a pause in this particular aspect of this refugee program in order to verify terrorists are not trying to infiltrate the refugee population. reporter: sources told fox news that the house plans to advance a bill this thursday that would mandate various security verifications for refugees to be admitted. other republicans are calling off funding for the refugee program until security checks are strengthened. senate republicans support a pause given 30 governors saying they don't want refugees in their states. without that the democratic leader harry reid, suggested the white house may support some additional improvements in checking backgrounds of refugees and applicants. this despite administration officials today defending the vetting process for refugees as quote, very strong, and they say governors have no power to block them anyway as refugee program is administered solely by washington. david. david: we have one governor coming up who disputes that. thank you very much, peter. we'll try to go back to belgium with our own benjamin hall who is in brussels. ben? reporter: david, there is a massive manhunt going on here in brussels at the moment as police desperately try to find both the mastermind of the paris attacks and one of the suspects. they are lose in this city. one of the dramatic themes as people ascending into buildings. they arrested seven, let five go. two were accused terrorism. they had explosives found in their apartments. the belgium connection is ever clearer. we know salah abdeslam is one of the two, he remains at large. police say he is armed and he is dangerous. also at large here in brussels is the suspected mastermind, another belgium, abdel hahm mead abaaoud, has a long history. he bragged by killing westerners. he has gone on to plan four other deadly attacks from belgium alone. he has been sentenced to 20 years in be be a essential thatt remains at large -- absentia. belgium has the largest percentage per capita fighting in syria and iraq. it has country of 11 million and 600,000 muslims. 800 are thought to have gone to fight with isis. most worryingly, 130 are thought to have come back. one area in particular a mile where we're currently standing where the ladies are carried out long been known as hotbed of jihadi sentiment. it is called molenbeek. we walked around there, there are rocket launchers and explosives. there are guns. it is dangerous place. the deputy mayor do they no longer have control over that area. they spoke to some people, they were afried to go on camera. they said if they spoke to us they could expect a visit later on with somebody armed with a knife or pistole. the jihadi problem here in belgium, really seems like it, david. problems ahead. david: seems like the middle east the way you talk about it. benjamin hall. thank you very much. glad we were able to establish connections. melissa. melissa: more than half of the governors in the u.s. are opposing allowing refugees in the u.s. governor sam brownback of kansas is taking control of his state's safety, signing executive order instructing state agencies not to participate in the relocation of syrian refugees in kansas. he joins me now over the phone. governor, thank you so much for joining us. is there anything that the feds could say that would make you feel like this is safe? what would they do to assuage your fears? >> i'm not sure there is anything they could do at this point in time because the population they're dealing with is coming from a failed state of syria. we don't have good data on this population. we know that the terrorists have announced they're trying to penetrate the refugees to make them attack the jihadists themselves. i don't, i don't -- i think this is a very imprudent move by the administration to bring this population into the country at this time of heightened concern and focus by the jihadists, and in the united states. people on other side of the argument who see people fleeing for their lives, see people are upping because they think, i mean they know other people who have been killed, they think their own lives are in danger, they're fleeing with their children? there are some people who say wouldn't you just accept grandmothers and small children? i mean what do you say to people make all the arguments and think you're being heartless? >> i think we ought to help resettle them in that region. we ought to work with our allies or some that are not such close allies in that region to help resettle people there. look too, there are millions of refugees around the world. there are people fleeing difficult circumstances everywhere. if we want to be more kind-hearted let's go to other regions that have not targeted us for destruction. that's a key piece that is going on here. we know a number of these refugees are being pursued to be people that will attack the united states. and plus, our population here, we take more refugees than in any other country i of this around the world. we take more immigrants in the united states than any other country around the world. we are a country of immigrants. this is not a situation boding well for the safety of americans. melissa: let me ask you about the practicality of what you're talking about here. there are a lot of governors like yourselves who say they aren't going to admit refugees but if there is state near you that does, how will you keep those people from coming into your own state? the. >> that is very difficult to do that. i would readily say that but i would also hope the administration would look at this, you have now 29 governors, over majority saying don't do this. i would hope the administration would say maybe there is wisdom coming from that large of a group of governors saying that we should not do for the safety of americans. this is the same sort of thing we did after 9/11. we reduced refugee flow because we couldn't really vet refugees coming into the country. melissa: can i ask you, very unlikely the president will agree with your sentiment anytime soon. have you looked into how much legal power you have to say no? >> we have, for as far as, we can say we're not going to cooperate. this is federal-state cooperation program on refugee resettlement. we say we're not going to do that with the syrian refugees. we will with other refugees coming into the united states. past that, that's really extent probably of the authority we have at this point in time. melissa: governor, thank you for coming on and sharing your opinion. we appreciate it. >> happy to do it. melissa: david? david: you just heard the governor of kansas what he had to say, but do states actually have authority to keep refugees out? joining me the director of immigration and refugee programs at church world service. jen, now that we're virtually certain that one of these tourists came to europe via greece from syria, doesn't the governor have a point? >> well i think that the difference here is if we're talking about someone from syria who made their way to france, that is far and away different than the u.s. refugee system. david: why? >> the u.s. has the most secure refugee resettlement system in the entire world. david: but we have to vet where they came from. that is the point. >> absolutely. david: we don't know if these refugees come here might have similar background with those terrorists involved over there? >> we do know. david: hold on. how do we know? >> we do biometric screening. unhcr, u.n. refugee agency does iris screening. medical tests. interviews with department of homeland security officials. forensic document testing. we'll not bring anyone into the nights unless they deserve to be refugee and deserve to be here and not causing us harm. refugees are the most single scrutinized individuals. david: i would love to believe you but i'm afraid this administration has let us down with regard to security so often in the past i'm reluctant to give them that authority to assume they are 100%, all you is one mistake, one refugee who is terrorist to get through and you can have something like you had in paris. >> but we couldn't have something like happened in paris because of how different the u.s. refugee resettlement system is. really is the single-most secure program in the entire world. david: now as you know, there is a problem with the governors legal argument, although, one could say that as long as they're on federal property, the governors can't tough them, but if they go into the general population perhaps they have a legal point. now that congress is b to withhold funding, speaker paul ryan said today he will put an act in to withhold funding in this refugee program. would that stop the refugee flow. >> i seen that particular proposal. we'll have to see what congress does. states can not discriminate against someone in terms of nationality. david: hold on a second. congress has purse strings of the congress can stop a program it feels is inappropriate or unsafe for the american public. they have that power constitutionally. >> but to do so for one particular group of people based on their nationality, i think gets into some non-discrimination territory but it is important to understand what these governors are really saying. they're saying to syrian-americans who are members about their communities, if your family members are overseas, if they're in refugee camps tough luck, you can't be reunited. david: hold on. i think every reasonable syrian who is here in the united states either as citizen or here as an immigrant with a green card would realize if there were measures taken to protect us from terrorists, those measures might be worthwhile whether they were restricting syrians or any other ethnic group that propose ad danger. >> we can do both. we can protect the united states. we can make sure our national security can be protected robust i so. we can welcome people incredibly vulnerable. implementation of the refugee program is part of our foreign policy like people in jordan and lebanon should remain keeping doors open to refugees in the region. important to recognize this is tool at that we have. if we neglect it or tell the world we're not bringing in syrian refugees there could be real ramifications internationally. david: i will give you last word. it is a tough sell in this environment. it is one tough sell. there will be a lot of arguments with governors and the house but you make your case. jen smyers director of refugee program at world church services. >> thanks for having me. david: absolutely. >> we definitely know what took down the russian airliner in egypt. russian officials confirming it is a bomb. we'll tell you how russia is responding now. david: more americans are in fear of another terrorist attack on our soil than ever before. are we prepared now? 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been alerted as to the ones they thought were safe, can we now shut those down or at least listen in on those sites like we hadn't before? >> david, if they're using encryption the short answer is no. the only way we get into that, we would have to be invited in. we have to have access. but their communications are encrypted. that is the whole region an. the group that attacked mumbai two weeks ago, one of the operatives was found with their own app used to communicate with their own group. they have gotten sophisticated. we don't know what we don't know at this point. was with at a terrorism conference in atlanta with the special agent charge with the fbi. one of the reasons they are concerned, there are thousands of these things out there and they don't know where they are. david: peter, this revives the subject we're debating a couple months ago, whether or not there should be back door, we should require software companies and apple and others to have a back door so that law enforcement can go in to look at encrypted sites. that was during the whole debate on civil liberties. it was before paris. do you think the discussion will be different now? >> it is interesting. i mean that is a double-edged sword, david. if somebody can get in back door, that means perhaps others can get in a back door. if the government is allowed in that means others could potentially get in there. the other thing what power do you have over foreign firms to lal you in. as morgan talked about creation of new apps and other systems. it can be very, very difficult. that is a real challenge for law enforcement. david: yeah. >> even if you were able to do that it is not a silver bullet. sometimes this is not finding a needle in a haystack. it is finding the haystack. david: morgan, there is hacking group called anonymous. i don't know how many people involved, nobody does. isis in retaliation for the paris attacks. they say they're going to be able to shut down all kinds of sites isis, they're now using. do you think they will have any effect at all? >> i think they will. actually one of their offshoots now is called ghost sec. their group specifically targeted identifying disrupting these things. david, what we ought to do, you and i talked about with china, give them a bloody nose, instead of targeting terrorists, we should put a bounty on technology, like groups like a anonymous or ghost sec pay you a million dollars to find the app they're using. or pay you a million dollars if you crack it. start targeting technology in addition to the terrorists. david: good stuff, guys. peter, morgan. melissa. melissa: consumer is alive and well after black friday if you look at retail giants. stocks rallying with walmart, home depot and tjx posting strong quarterly sales. look at home depot up almost 5% on the day. david: talk about money, taxpayer dollars and fight against terror. millions coming out of your pocket to battle terrorism. where that money is going and how 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if you look at duplicative management structures and size of some of bureaucracies like department of homeland security, for example, it is massive. as with any organization, larger it gets normally the more inefficient it gets. david: peter, also about how you allocate those funds and what your own commitment is as commander-in-chief or one of the joint chiefs. i wonder how much security has to do with attitude rather than money? >> this is congressional job. this is congress job of oversight. they're supposed to look how funds are spent. we have hearings and government accounting office, et cetera, et cetera. critical that congress is involved with this. congress gives money to the executive as you know. congress can also play that as well in whole host of other issues. speaker ryan talking about the refugee crisis today. this is what congress needs to do is do oversight. occasionally government programs will go awry. david: another one that went awry, forgive me, captain nash, that $43 million gas station in afghanistan that should have cost 500,000 if that much. how much micromanagement should congress do? quite often they meddle in the affairs of defense things get more screwed up than they were to begin with? too absolutely. peter used the word, oversight. that is congress's responsibility to look in on the programs. but these programs are so massive, they have so many moving parts. they tend to layer administration over administration, by the sometime you're done big committee owns it and there is no personal responsibility. david: is there anything we can do about it? >> smaller government. >> smaller government would help. you know what it really comes down to, david, really? comes down to holding people accountable. that word accountable is seldom used in washington. david: bureaucracy is classic being able to avoid accountability, right, peter? >> bureaucracies don't put themselves out of business. in fact how many government agencies have we shut down, even during the 1994 republican revolution. i think they closed one office. critically important we have limited government, small government. that is something that the washington should be working on. david: captain nash, peter, thank you guys, appreciate it. >> you bet. david: melissa. melissa: a few stories on our radar. british airways flight from london to boston landed safely after unruly female passenger was reportedly restrained on board for trying to enter the plane's cockpit. not a good idea by the way. she was allegedly intoxicated. state troopers were positioned at jet bridge to take the passenger into custody. because that what happens when you try to get into the cockpit. if you're in new york you are not playing on fanduel. the fantasy supports site temporarily suspended entry into paid contests for new york customers. after a judge denied requests from fanduel and draftkings that would allow them to stay online in new york heed of a court hearing happening next week. new york es attorney general ordered the sites to cease and desist all operations. he says, they constitute illegal gambling. they want their 12 minutes of fame. presidential candidates, john kasich, lindsey graham and george at that packky, the -- pataki, the exciting ones, requesting airtime from nbc stations equal to what donald trump received when he hosted "saturday night live." that is about 12 minutes. i don't know if those guys are ideal for "snl." david: i know what you mean. there could be a sleeper there. melissa: lindsey graham can be very funny. david: very dry but very funny. melissa: there you go. battle over syrian refugees, growing calls to defund the controversial program but leave it to donald trump to tell you how he really feel. >> they could be isis, they could be anybody. what is our president doing? he is insane? but it is not the device that is mobile, it is you. when there is a game, when there is a training, when there is a goal, our duty is to bring that 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example. >> i think there will be other democrats. when chuck schumer says something he have to assume he is putting finger up to see which way the political wind are blowing. everyone is knowing at that that all republicans but one democrat is from new hampshire. that is battleground states. if bringing in refugees is polling among general population, democrats will say we have to got to stop here because we can not afford to lose those states. david: bonnie, with paris as a background, less than a week away, it is a tough sell, refugee issue. >> sure. i don't think it is purely partisan. i agree with dan here. there is inherent risk anytime you open up border. but there is responsibility not as democrats or republicans but as americans to fight those risks. loretta lynch was asked very important hard questions about it. look, we have vigorous process which we vet this people. that seems in contrast with jim comey about this. david: just think about it. how do you weed out the islamists from the crowd of refugees. >> sure. such a high-risk, exactly right, david. they could pose -- i think i agree with schumer on this, it is worth a pause. no one is saying never ever. david: interesting you're saying that. >> of course. david: now we have two democrats. >> can we trust them to adequately vet all these people? they say systems are in place. but this is government who has been incompetent so many other ways why do we think they could do a good job at this? plus our availability to surveil the people in wake of edward snowden is much different than before. david: forgive me, i thought you were a democrat. you're independent. forgive me, i wonder what position hillary will take on this this she undoubt the he hadly will take a position? >> i suspect she will draw a hard-line. she has long history of being super tough when it comes to foreign policy issues. i expect her to make this opportunity to break with the president. that bodes well for her candidacy. she wants to be as different from obama as possible. doesn't want to look like third time candidate for him. i think she comes out hard. david: dan, is there middle ground perhaps somebody suggested we could allow in children, orphans, some kind of middle ground that could be reached? >> you would hope so, david. we don't want to become known as country that refuses refugees. world war ii when we had jews coming into the country. but the politics -- david: we should mention the jews coming into the country during world war ii, none of them were potential terrorists. >> exactly. david: that is a big difference. >> politics are so different especially with immigration issue running alongside. president obama could have done something in syria to prevent this blow from happening two years ago when he had the opportunity to support moderates there. he did not. so i think he has to, one who has to answer for this. then for him to lecture us as he did the other day, that we should be ashamed of these impulses under these conditions, just completely reprehensible. david: should he be looking for a way out right now? do you think he will push hard on this and insist on getting his way with governors that don't want refugees? >> i think the president is preoccupied preserving his strategy and his point of view and his approach. think that is a mistake. at this point it is not being right. it is about getting it right. i think that is opportunity for him. i want to quickly point out legal challenges the way we vet this process. we know there are legal implications saying people can't come in, solely on basis of nationality, solely on basis of religion. we have to look at the totality of the circumstances and determine who is risky or who is not. orphans don't pose a high-risk. certain people do. david: this comes in light of the decision against the president on immigration issue by the court, saying if states are forced to take on expenses because of immigration or perhaps, resettlement of syrian refugees, then the feds donetskly get their way? >> well i think there is no real constitutional basis for the governors literally refusing. they are not able to do that. david: if i could just interject, i think there is one sense and i talked this out with andy napolitano our judge. if they stay on federal property, you're right. if they're mixed in the general population of the state and there are costs that the state have to take on as a result of that, they could have a say. >> you always run the risk if litigated the courts will decide agains then they are going to have to simply settle these people in these neighborhoods, creating tension among the people who are already there, and becomes a political firestorm. >> nightmare. how much better would it be if federally, statewide we get at least some common sense around the best way to protect and safeguard unreasonable risk of harm. that is really what we're talking about here. david: good last word. thank 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something fairly important. he talk ad great deal about philippine naval assets. he took a tour of some assets today, alongside mentioning the fact that the administration would make a huge investment in the region worth $259 million in building up maritime assets in the region. 79 million of that would go here to the philippines. on a very busy day with the president. he also met with his australian counterpart, malcolm turnbull. as you know the two men have terrific relationship. they have spent a great number of hours together talking about, working together in the war on terror of the president, quite frankly, david, was effusive in his praise for the australians and their corporation in -- cooperation in the war on terror. we also heard secretary of state john kerry made his way to france. that was a bit of a surprise visit. but he did so as the white house announced that the french president hollande will come to washington next week to discuss ongoing cooperation in the battle on war on terror, in particular after vicious attacks on city of lights, paris. you also know that the president yesterday in his news conference comments in turkey was quite defiant quite frankly in his defense of his strategy in the war on terror. the president said i believe the strategy we have will not only work, it will work. it will simply take more time. there have been plenty of critics out there, among them, david, arizona senator john mccain. >> no one that know of is recommending 100,000 troops. we are recommending an international coalition of arab and european countries with about 10,000 american troops but, and for him to stand there for 45 minutes and allege that the status quo is fine and quote, we are making progress, i just hope we don't make more progress. reporter: all right, david. i want to remind you that the white house is talking about another crucial issue today. that is syrian refugee situation. i heard you all talking about it just before the break. dozens now of governors around the country, even a democrat from new hampshire, now saying g that we will not accept syrian refugees, without more specifics about vetting those refugees. the white house is scheduled to have a conference call on that. we expect they will be very aggressive promoting idea, david, that this is against american values, to turn our backs on those who would need us in a time of need. david: yet, there is another terrorist issue which we'll discuss right now. kevin corke, thank you very much. melissa. melissa: president obama forging ahead with his plan to empty out gitmo two days after the paris bloodshed. the obama administration released five more gitmo detainees, to the united arab emirates no less. raising some questions about his timing. captain chuck nash and dan henninger are back with us for this one. captain nash, while we're watching video of people across the world in belgium and in france trying to track down and take jihadis off the battlefield, how wise is it to release people back on to the battlefield here at home? >> i think this is really a political move. has nothing to do with national security because there are criteria they have been using since guantanamo was established where they would evaluate the person's threat, their intelligence value and whether they were being a good prisoner and not causing trouble. if you pass those things, pass those reviews which were held on regular basis, then they let you go, they put you up to go. now it appears what is happening the administration is trying to accelerate, putting pressure on those making decisions to accelerate get number down to a such a small number, not worth keeping this open because we have so few. melissa: this idea of good behavior and people don't pose a threat, looking into the background of these people, why these five in particular were being held at guantanamo, almost all of them have multiple trips to different training facilities in al cade and what is called basic and advanced training to be on the battlefield. one at least was identified assam psalm's bodyguard, one -- osama bin laden's bodyguard. one of many i'm sure. where they have gone i don't know how any type of behavior in gitmo could earn a release when you have this kind of a background? >> that's right, melissa. they are getting down, they have had releases for several years. they are getting down to most of the people remaining in guantanamo deemed too dangerous to release. in other words no other country will take them. but now president obama is trying to find legal opinion from inside of the white house to close guantanamo on his own authority, without congressional approval. congress voted 91 -- senate did, 91-3, to not allow any money spent on bringing prisoners to the united states. he is talking about bringing them to the bringing in south carolina, fort leavenworth, kansas or supermax prison in denver on his own authority. this would be breach of his constitutional authority. i think it would create a political firestorm, especially on top of the refugee problem we just discussed. melissa: instead we send them to the u.a.e. where we have no idea really what is going to happen after that. gentlemen, thanks to both of you. we're out of time. david? david: we have late-breaking news. the match will go on. england versus france. it is much more than just a soccer game. david: wish just getting this in even though we get details this morning. this attack was different than "charlie hebdo." to put it in full context there is something different from what happened in "charlie hebdo," and i think everybody would feel that, according to the state department transcript. there was sort of particularized focus and perhaps even legitimacy in terms of, he said not legitimacy but rationale that you could attach yourself too, somehow, say okay, there are really angry because of this and that. okay, melissa. >> wow. a day when terror threat canceled a soccer match in germany, the england-france match goes on in london. david: good for them. it marks the first big event since the deadly attacks in paris. the french motto is projected on front of the stadium. the arch is illuminated in red, white and blue. good for them going through this. london has had share of terrorism as well as france. >> that does it for us. "risk & reward" starts right now deirdre: national raids, over 300. german officials canceling a highly-anticipated soccer match that was supposed to be the german and dutch team. german chancellor angela merkel was supposed to be there. france launching a new air attacks in syria. 16 in the past 12 hours, adding to the 20 from the night before. welcome, everyone, i'm deirdre bolton. it's a special edition of "risk & reward." more details now. french police are conducting more than 300 raids overnight in fact, have discovered two safe houses outside of paris. terrorists including the driver from the deadly concert venue, probably stayed there two days before

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