There he is convincingly taken a position against far right extremism again and again i have known him for a while now you know. His public reputation has been seriously damaged. And what weve heard today is not enough to make up for that. Or look to it sucking all resignation and not proportionate after what he had to say to us today it was so pretty and that is why i would like to say that president mohsin still has my confidence as president of the Domestic Intelligence agency isnt out its our opinion that there are at least doubts whether or not is the right person as head of the Domestic Intelligence service im just. Also coming up tonight children sexually abused by catholic clergy the scandals and accusations are multiplying along with that pope francis can handle the crisis what we see with this clerical sex abuse crisis it comes in waves after wave after wave now theres the latest report in germany so its almost like a perfect storm. But we begin the day with germanys top spy whose credibility may be headed for rock bottom. And is the. Chief of germanys domestic spy agency he leaves the federal office to protect the constitution yet tonight Political Party leaders here in berlin are debating whether or not he is a real friend to the rule of law in the past week he has fueled suspicion that the countrys Law Enforcement agencies have been infiltrated by far right sympathizers last week mr mostyn contradicted the german chancellor when he cast doubt on the authenticity of videos purportedly showing min chasing down foreigners in broad daylight now there are reports that mawson met with a member of the far right party and shared confidential information why would the head of intelligence share anything with a party that just two weeks ago openly demonstrated with neo nazis or the answers could be politically explosive we have this report. Could the president of germanys Domestic Secret Service bring down the government thats what the papers are asking social democrats a conservative one scale masson must go if not they could quit Angela Merkels governing coalition and theres bits of that anyone at the head of a Security Institution of our country has to be absolutely trustworthy and its obvious that this trust no longer exists so there must be consequences. For now conservatives are backing mohsen hes accused of improperly passing on Sensitive Information to germanys far right populist party the f. T. And f. T. Member told germany via the data was contained in an unreleased government report. When we spoke with mr marson about the reports it wasnt available in printed form yet we talked about various numbers and figures such as right wing extremism left wing extremism and islam and threats. S. P. D. Chairwoman and their nala smith for crisis talks with merkel and conservatives on thursday but there was no breakthrough talks will continue next tuesday and im joined now by my colleague chris durst brigade hes been covering the story for us here in berlin good evening to you krista first so how widely is it that will be out of a job. Well the interesting thing is that last night he looked he was going to survive this crisis but the tide seems to turn either during the night to this morning in particular the social democrats or the Junior Coalition partners in chancellor merkels coalition have their stance stiffened quite considerably and they are fairly categoric in that demands for his resignation the opposition liberal free democrats they were also dealing dallying last night but they now have stiffened their stance as well so i would say theres a very big question mark on how long. Its going to survive in his post theres one persistent rumor going around in this evening which is that the three leaders who are talking to each other Coalition Leaders who are talking to each to each other in the chances office today and their best solution to this most elegant solution to this would be if has killed martin himself decided to step down thereby freeing them from the responsibility of firing him it was due to be used christophers brigade speaking with me earlier when that anti migrant violence flared up in the east german city of camden its german lawmaker andre is now a member of chancellor merkels conservatives he was already concerned about mawsons dealings with the a. D. F. Tea party heres what he said on the day two weeks ago a very frankly ive been of the opinion that the if he should be supervised by the fossil schultz for many years ive never been fully accepting the argument that there was no reason to do that with. At least reports about the head of the fossil mr moss and having met numerous occasions with senior representatives willing to disclose what was discussed. I think we should make clear that there is. No not the faintest doubt about the integrity of our Law Enforcement authorities whether its in sex and the on the federal level so warnings from andrea snick two weeks ago opposition parties are also calling for consequences constantine who is a german lawmaker for the opposition free democrats he spoke to me before the show. So mr couper do you think the countrys Domestic Intelligence agency chief should he resign he should resign or he should be even dismissed by the ministry of the interior hostile far we have now reached a situation in which there is no trust anymore within the coalition when it comes to the hands of the intelligence why dont you trust them anymore we dont trust them anymore because there has been happening so much in the last couple of weeks and months when it comes to the investigation about the attacks on by try plots in berlin when it comes to the events in chemists and also when it comes to the links between the idea and the german when the stock and are these the are these examples or these events where you have proof that hes done something wrong or are these rumors and suspicions that youre acting on well yesterday there has been a five hour session of the committee on interior affairs and weve been asking him mr moxon are you aware of the consequences of what you are saying about demonstrators about violence on german streets that you are causing it to may be a lie that that has been happening and has been reported by by media and he is not aware of the consequences he might not have a mad intention when it when it comes to his own words about what he calls us with his words is more uncertainty and thats a very bad thing for head of an Intelligence Agency and you said that hes living in his own little world what do you mean by that that he doesnt see the consequences in the context of want is happening we are in a situation where the entire German Society is debating about migration there are terrible murderous happening people are dying and people are demonstrating against this which is totally fine as long as its peaceful then again we have a right wing protesters there are jewish institutions that damage the jewish restaurant was harmed in encampments and we have the use of nazi symbolism also on the streets and this is a very very very very difficult situation for the. German society and there should be head of the Intelligence Agency that understands that we need to stay calm instead of spreading Conspiracy Theory do you think hes aware that his actions could be fueling suspicions that Law Enforcement in germany has been infiltrated by right wing sympathizers i mean some people are saying that maybe even he is a right wing sympathizer i do not think that he is a right wing sympathizer i think that what he did was trying to fulfill his duties as that of the Intelligence Agency but we are now in a situation where he doesnt need his own standards anymore because he said that he tried to calm down the debate thats what his aim was when he published the interview in bit and this was simply not happening the opposite happened after his interview so now does no room anymore to make it happen but not everyone shares your opinion that weve got the interior minister mr as a whole for himself saying that he stands behind mr moss and thats not going to change in the foreseeable future so whats going to happen if he keeps his job well the fact that hoss the whole thing is still in favor of mr moxon staying in office has to do with the election and bavaria obviously. Is not doing very well and we are expecting not a better was not a good result for them in the very elections and obviously the chancellor is allowing that says to do anything they want before the election so i can behave in a way as he wants do you think the chancellor and you say that about say over do you think the chancellor is she in control of her cabinet and of her government obviously not shes not in control because this week she would have had the opportunity to say something. About the situation she just mentioned one sentence about the events and chemists and she theres a lack of leadership there is no True Management of the interior security in germany neither by the neither by the chancellor and the obvious result of this like of leadership is that the head of the intel. Since agency is going public with his own opinion final question we know these talks about the fate of mr must and they will pick up again next tuesday will the chance there will she fire him. I dont think so i think they will go into another round of waiting until the end of this coalition maybe i dont think that the s. P. D. Is Strong Enough to reach it constantine who thank you very much. Well still to come on the day children on the front line in Eastern Ukraine risking their lives for an education just me and my brothers were on our way to school suddenly lots of she sing started so we all got down it was really scary there was nowhere to hide. Pope francis met leaders of the u. S. Catholic church today amid an ever widening scandal over clergy sexual abuse of children the batek and is reeling from crises around the world involving the molestation of children by priests and allegations of systematic cover ups that date back decades after todays meeting the pope ordered an investigation into an american bishop accused of Sexual Misconduct with adults and he accepted the bishops resignation the pope has also called for a summit next february for senior clergy to discuss the protection of children his worry about the future of the church can be heard in his comments made today to one hundred thirty new bishops take a listen. You have to select people can fully and you have to evaluate them. We will not have a future if we do not face the spiritual abyss of this scandalous weakness any. Kind that knows it will eat. While the pope was making that statement in rome the Catholic Church here in germany says that it is distressed and ashamed by the findings of a new report into sexual abuse the independent report which was commissioned by the church itself found the clergyman had raped and abused nearly four thousand children over seventy years starting at the end of the Second World War were joining me tonight here at the big table is peter isley he is with c a global dot org ending clergy abuse hes also a Founding Member of snap the Survivors Network of those abused by priests peters good to have you on the day i mean weve got a long list here dont we weve got. Weve got ireland weve got the will be seen in south america weve got pennsylvania and now weve got germany i heard someone this week say this is the nine eleven for the Catholic Church do you agree tell you where its going to end up is africa and thats where its the most dangerous for children right now but yeah i mean its this is been a Long Time Coming and this is a historic opportunity for true reform and change but theres a lot of forces that are resisting that change you know youre saying that in africa the abuse may be going on right now yes but we havent found out about that and we were just finding out about the abuse that happened here in germany how do you compare whats what were seeing in germany with what we just saw in the United States the german Catholic Church today saying its a shame it. Well you know the thing about shame ok is what are you going to do about it. Theres no doubt that theres personal feelings of shame but what changes are you going to make a so for instance in germany right now. There is not written into church law zero tolerance for priests that sexually abused children it is not there and you have to completely trust the Senior Management that theyre going to do the right thing and they dont have to do it under their law and if they break that zero tolerance it doesnt matter as this is the Senior Management that youre going to trust with handling this issue children are at risk theyve covered up these sex crimes right now the pope is going to gather together in february and again theres a sense of urgency here why why wait so long so why is he waiting so i dont know how easy it would tell me that we hear that there are forces in the vatican that are trying to prevent any reforms and that the pope is maneuvering as best he can to reform without the whole project exploding is that this is a realistic that the widespread systematic abuse of children if you look at the numbers in germany and the United States conservatively and you extrapolate that globally there have been some thirty five thousand clerics thirty five thousand priests that have sexually assaulted children around the world they have done so within a system that covers up for them that enhanced resentment moves that there is mind boggling in it and it also speaks to you to use this word it does something evil if you will that its been going on for so long and over the entire planet that this is the problem with with pope francis and trying to understand how he understands as he gave a sermon on tuesday its st peters and he talked about satan and what he specifically said was that what satanic is the revelation about these crimes but the revelation of these crimes is what is really the problem but thats not the problem but the problem is that they need to be revealed so its really difficult sometimes to understand where he is on the one side you know he seems a very compassionate about this hes very bothered about this on the other side theres concerns about what he did as a jesuit prevention what his. Record is in himself in argentina when he though you think thats the problem do you think hes trying to cover or protect his record and at the same time you know reform moving forward is he called you know with his past his own past in his own future this is a thing we dont know but what we can say for sure is that we have a system that has does not have a law or if you sexually abuse a child in your priest that you can take it out of ministry they dont have that and we also have a system that does not have a law that if youve covered it up youre not going to be a bishop anymore local authorities have to find out that there has been a crime in their local authorities you know they can intervene right but they dont know if its being covered up and its covered up by church can and though isnt it and im talking about the confessional confidentiality if i confess to a priest he cannot tell anyone even if ive told him to ive committed the crime against a child well that in that instance yes but a lot of these reports are not coming through the confessional and theyre not getting to Law EnforcementLaw Enforcement historically has not. Properly investigated these crimes if you look at the grand jury in pennsylvania and elsewhere Law Enforcement generally around the world has failed to intervene and theyre starting to intervene now what do you think the priesthood is that it sounds light. Were hearing one case after another that it was it became a place for sexual predators to hide and survive is there what were uncovering the most disturbing question about this is what you sort of mentioning is that its sexual predators that are attractive the priesthood that may be part of it but is there something about this system in a way that if youre in it long enough that might in a way kind of produce sexually or are you talking about celibacy for example about celibacy maybe one thing i mean that this often is done understood by left and right so forth for the liberals the problem is celibacy i dont know if priest having sex or having more sex is going to solve the problem for the other side as homosexuality and theyre trying to make this link between homosexuality and pedophilia thats what the the right wing of the right or the bishops if theyre making their plans pope francis that is absolutely unacceptable and theres nothing nothing whatsoever to support that link and its dangerous to to make that link so you know what you see are factions trying to take control of the church right but thats not what this is about what you see historically and you still see now is that liberal bishops cover up sex crimes and conservative bishops cover up and i just try to just as much deeper than that divide it we got about a minute left so tell me what would you like to see the pope do because at the end of the day the pope is really the only person who can say and punish a bishop for example or a cardinal what would you like to see pope francis do to morrow i want to see him and we need to see him do like what he did with catechism change the Death Penalty he went did this on his own and what he needs to do is three things he can do with the stroke of a pen he can do tomorrow one zero tolerance to make it a law in the Catholic Church that you cannot abuse a child remain a priest secondly zero tolerance for bishops and cover up sex crimes he can do that and thirdly they need to have a global registry of these offenders right now the vatican has almost four thousand cases of priests that they know they have determined have raped and sexually assaulted children on. What are they doing with those cases and what are they doing with that information i mean that theyre keeping it secret and isnt that covering up sex crimes right there not letting that information out. Which we had more time to talk to you coming in what you shared with this is valuable we appreciate your insights tonight. Eastern ukraine has largely fallen out of the headlines but people there still live with the fear of violence despite an official ceasefire the two sides pro russian separatists and Ukrainian Government forces recently agreed to lay down their weapons to allow children to go back to school after the summer break now its an informal agreement and connelly found in this frontline village its a very thin line of security for children who risk their lives every day just to get an education. Another morning and another trip to School Without any shots being fired. Reason enough for people here to be thankful for now this School Ceasefire seems to be holding after leaving home. These people have passed through. The full crossing a narrow bridge and showing that. Were not allowed to film the moment the children and their parents cross the bridge ukrainian military. They say are unexpected parents could provoke the separatists. Out to meet the students from the other side of the river the school principal. She introduces us to dash and her two younger brothers. Who accompany. Sasha is everything all right i didnt see you yesterday. All this might seem normal now but it was only a few days before the Summer Holidays the last major round of shelling since everyone scrambling to cover. This Academic Year school teach them one hundred sixty pupils age six seventeen thats just half the number before the war the others have long since left east and west together the patriotic pose to reads something this school does every day keeping children from both sides talking to each other. We meet dasher again shes been making the journey across the front line some three years now just me and my brothers were on our way to school suddenly lots of shooting started so we all got down it was really scary there was nowhere to hide. So. We head down to the school cellar water candles and desks for all the pupils thats the extent of the provisions here and the schools improvised bomb shelter the doors of crush not near the door dont believe anyone who says you can get used to war you never do. Three children have died and since the war began to preschoolers and one former student. I still remember the desk where he used to sit and his handwriting. He was a talented boy. Psychologically everyone has suffered. But could only see. Us she shows us whats left of the Primary School buildings across the road gutted by a direct hit it was only because the shelling happened so early in the morning that no one died. Its time for lisette to return to class from their desks oh peoples can see deep into separate to sell territory. From the classroom to the front lot as a matter of just a few hundred meters and anything crossing that front has become part of everyday life for many of the children here and so is the shooting. Theres not a single window in this entire school but hasnt needed to be replaced in the four years since the shooting we got. And finally were allowed down to the river without the children beyond the bridge between the front lines no mans land and its through this under the gaze of snipers from both sides the students pass every day. As the School Day Ends we join the children as they head back towards the checkpoint the experience of crossing the front day in day out hasnt put dasher off she tells us she wants to study to become a teacher so that she can come right back to twenty that to teach in her words. For World Leaders past and present gathered in donnas capital today for the state funeral of former u. N. Secretary general kofi uno. Some. Some six thousand mourners have paid tribute to the diplomat hailing his record as an advocate for humanity and world peace the service followed three days of National Mourning anon was a National Citizen of ghana he died in a swiss hospital last month at the age of eighty the current u. N. Secretary general paid tribute to his fellow diplomat. Like few you know time for fun and bring people together. And unite them towards a common goal for our common humanity. There is an old joke the art of diplomacy east to say not seem especially when you are speaking. Coffee and i would say every scene sometimes without a word. Well the day is nearly done but as always the conversation continues online youll find us on twitter either at u. W. News or you can write directly to me t. V. Dont forget to use the hash tag of the day every member whatever happens between now and then for more of this another day well see you then have a got. Some. More intriguing International Talk show for journalists discuss the topic of the week future model for islam and the syrian conflict could be moving into. A benefit for the cost of human life and what happens after victory those are the questions well be asking. Thirty minutes. Where i come from we have to fight for a free press and was born and raised in a military dictatorship of just one to the shadow and if you newspapers when official information as a journalist i have work all the strength of many can trust and their problems are all the same fourteen social inequality a lack of the freedom of the press and corruption we can afford to stay silent when it comes to the fans of humans unseen or might do for those who have inside put their trust in us. My name is Jenny Harrison i work a day down with. Here whats coming up on the good news so Much Movement in the bands name demonstrates the. Mental effect you know its going to take a look at what all that means for the take the. Longest think of the weekend here on t. W. Education is it human rights the. Planets in the ukraine or spoons have been destroyed. Between rebel held territory and to be secured by the children of just one charms plus the boredom to get to the educational. Day on the. This is d. W. News. Tonight germanys government in crisis as Party Leaders decide whether the countrys spy chief should stay or go. And was forced to explain himself following controversial comments about recent far right protests in eastern germany hes become a divisive figure in the government with some Party Leaders demanding that