Didnt go right far right as planned swedish voters elected a new National Parliament yesterday it was an election that europe watched with a mixture of anticipation and dread the anti immigration Sweden Democrats were poised for an upset victory a rebuke of the countrys generous policies towards migrants but that did not happen instead the governing Social Democrats remain the Biggest Party the Sweden Democrats the party with neo nazi roots notched up four percent but still failed to meet its goal of becoming the countrys second biggest Political Force however its not Business As Usual forming a new government will be much harder because mainstream parties all lost some support to the far right and with that sweden has become the next step in europes dangerous dance with populous. This
divide to make it possible to govern sweden so regardless of the final Election Results this will be the death of bloc politics. I but his invitation to the center right to engage in Cross Party Talks has so far fallen on deaf ears the head of the opposition is calling on to resign that leaves two sides in a virtual dead heat after the vote without a majority neither bloc says it will work with a strong third place finisher that has neo nazi roots forming a new government could take weeks or months of talks in a country where a Populist Wave is a roading a long held tradition of tolerance. And for more on this im joined here at the big table by to be is sold he is a researcher on right wing populism in Northern Europe at the institute for international and Security Affairs here in berlin tobys its good to have you on the show so lets talk about you know the far right stars if you will of this
all these people anymore a Welfare State otherwise might collapse and the other partys fault that the only way of getting motors back again from them is to also kind of use similar for x. And what about just using the facts i mean if you look at swedens population in demographics it took in more in the last three years its taken in more migrants per capita than any e. U. Country until Two Thousand And Fifteen exactly and yet when we look at you know crime that is associated with the arrival of migrants those types of metrics you havent seen a worsening of the situation so why dont we see the mainstream parties you know hammering that issue and saying the migrants i have have theyre not a threat to us that indeed this strange thing and i mean has really been an old problem and the current crime as we see it doesnt have to do much to save those
thats and thats a real shame and now it depends a lot how the other parties react to thats what about their call to take sweden out of the European Union i mean that sort of theyd like to do yeah thats a very interesting thing i mean they have said that before and they repeat it in the container again but there is not much ground for that i mean all the of the prompter is rejecting that idea i mean they all say very clearly sweden profits from the u. S. We need the European Union and the public things to say about fifty seven percent of the streets they have the voluntary need to stay and youve been union and only around seventeen percent want to want to leave and what about the the government to the new government of sweden that has yet to be formed you mean its going to be hard to come to grips these are these are going to be strange bedfellows right now absolutely and i mean its a really difficult situation or its a bit of a deadlock i mean all the whole of the parties they basically are its all still
the Strongest Party but they are full of the cam the diode to have a majority but but but but the Conservative Camp Doesnt Have died or so its really difficult to predict what is up thats going to happen now that it will have to talk to each other there is a bit of thinking of. Overarching coalitions but theres no really a tradition for that then not in order to for example what we have in germany a Grand Coalition and the right is a Great Coalition and i something ive done well were going to be in New Territory for sure absolutely to be as its old a researcher on right wing populism in Northern Europe the institute for international and Security Affairs here in berlin to me as we appreciate you coming on the show and sharing your insights thank you. The United Nations human rights chief is calling on china to allow in monitors after allegations of large scale arbitrary detention of muslim minorities now
michel calls the allegations quote deeply disturbing they appear in a report that was published today by Human Rights Watch it says more than a million muslims have been detained in a socalled Reeducation Camps in chinas Northwestern Shinji young region and details of the Internment System are emerging slowly because the Chinese Government tightly controls access to the region but correspondent Mathias Berlingo traveled to neighboring kazakhstan to speak with witnesses. Han is a former inmate of a chinese Reeducation Camp he got out of the Internment Facility in march and is now in kazakhstan it is an important day for him hes meeting a team from Amnesty International to speak out about his experiences. We had to sing for hours. Songs like without the Communist Party there would be no
new china. Most of them were songs praising mao tse tung. And were forced to repeat slogans about the greatness of president xi jinping. And what a great place china is to live in. But some are honasan ethnic because it was born in china where large numbers of cars us have disappeared into camps along with a members of the muslim ethnic minorities the official just a few Cation Combatting religious extremism its all brainwashing for them to accept that you are chinese so you have that its a National Unity its size to make you feel your heart of the nation you dont need to keep your own ethnic it is just really like Ethnic Cleansing practice because a horse or a g. s have worn some or han of the long arm of chinese authorities but he wants
his voice to be heard. Will they need to have the courage to tell the truth if we dont share our stories of Whats Going On then who will thats why im speaking out for the songs by. Someone hundreds in march in the city around Three Hundred meters from the chinese border if you from a detainees have made it. We do not know exactly how many people are being detained at these Camps International organizations estimate that the number you. Cs one million down or verdict or no sentences release is entirely at the whim of the camp administration. Many causes of nukes to china and many have relatives in the camps just saying the wrong word can lead to detention. For many inmates the only hooper release comes from amnestys efforts on their behalf. This man was
arrested on a business trip. To have enough people destroyed i dont even know if he is still alive and in. My son is twelve. He asked me where his father is every day even his teacher has started asking questions. That. News from across the border has become scars for muslims in china any contact with their relatives is simply too dangerous. In the United States much of the country is consumed with fear im referring of course to the latest tell all book about the Trump Presidency entitled fear it goes on sale tomorrow the author is the two time pulitzer winner and journalist of
watergate fame bob woodward and woodward has written some four hundred pages of what has to be some of the most scathing and brutally honest account ever compiled on a sitting u. S. President President Trump has already slammed fear as well as mr woodward earlier today the u. S. President was apparently a injured by an interview on the today show with Woodward Trump tweeted bob woodward is a liar who is like a democratic operative prior to the midterm elections he was caught cold even by n. B. C. Woodward is defending his book saying that all Anonymous Sources quoted are from interviews conducted not on the record but instead on deep background which is a standard and perfectly Legal Practice in Journalism Woodward has also been very open about his reaction to the accounts shared with him by top level trump insiders
i want you to take a listen as he describes the danger of trumps lack of knowledge concerning matters of u. S. National security well ive never seen instance when the president is so detached from the reality of Whats Going On in one in a Scene Meeting a year after trump was in office the secretary of defense has to tell him because the president s complaining about all this money were spending u. S. Forces abroad James Madison says to him were doing this to prevent World War Three now the idea that the secretary of defense has to tell the president that all of these actions are designed to prevent the ultimate catastrophe and then made us goes on and says you know if we dont keep these programs which are very sensitive. The only deterrent option we have will be the
new Killer Option you know the Nuclear Option or my next guess is a us president ial historian and author he has written numerous books including january One Thousand Seventy Three watergate Roe Versus Wade vietnam and the month that changed America Forever he and john dean Richard Nixons former white House Counsel travel across the u. S. Speaking about the Watergate Scandal they have also led a seminar for lawyers focusing on comparisons between Richard Nixon and donald trump. Well im happy to welcome tonight to the day mr james webb adult who joins us tonight from Cleveland Ohio mr robey not welcome to the day i want to ask you you know youve been hearing what Bob Woodwards been saying just like we have i mean considering what mr woodward has written regarding trumps lack of knowledge about policies in the wall would you recommend that mr trump me even attend the
simmon are that youre giving which compares him to Richard Nixon. I think you would do him well i know bob woodward. John b. Hes a very honest guy youre here really is very much particular and interesting that you know john you know i started doing our program in Two Thousand And Eleven donald trump was on the scene in resoled about nixons impulsive nature and some of the things that got him into this very troubled. Right now so yeah he would do well to come listen joycean are in some of the papers. You write that there is a cancer growing on the Trump Presidency i mean what is the cancer. Well you know the thing is that right now were hearing just breathtaking from people inside not only where its well but the New York Times and i dont misuse it
is that the president really doesnt Pay Attention very much he does have a long attention to c. N. N. This is very impulsive heavy in these are things that are beginning to pile up in the cancer thats going with his presidency is youve got some of these high level people now cooperating with Robert Muller whos the Best Gating Collusion with the russians and also Obstruction Of Justice and thats kind of. Problematic for the president because some of those people are even is all yours just as john trump was nixons john bemis nixon. Yeah i mean thats it is an interesting point you made could be were i dont want to go into too much detail here with this but do you think that the president s former personal Attorney Michael Cohen and his lawyer lanny davis do you think they will prove key to finding the truth about
the trunk presidency and you know i think it will be very important in terms of crimes like. You know before an election on quiet to affect an election Michael Cohen has already pled guilty to that and set the truck was involved in order that yet thats all proven Criminal Activity whether or not one knows about the russian pollution is a different story and as you know when he davis has said one thing and have walked it back a little bit so that. Theyre going to be very important to the overall structure of what was going on within trucks you know. I want you to take a listen to what woodward said when asked about the president s accusation that woodwards quotes from top officials are simply fabrications take a listen they are not telling the truth. But look whats going
on here and. My old boss at the Washington Post ben bradlee the great deaded you used to say the truth emerges sometimes it takes time these people these are political statements to protect their jobs totally understandable but this is this carefully done as you can do an excavation of the reality of what goes on in capable and miserable i mean you know ask you is it understandable that these top officials talk to woodward and then deny what they said i mean if they truly believe that the president is so incompetent and dangerous why in the world do you think they stick around. I dont need a stick around because theres no check im trying right now both houses of our Congress Republicans and theyre not doing anything about what theyre hearing about me and so dare i say probably are very concerned that if they come out
and say what theyre going to say if you discard it nobody will be left in their place to protect the country so i think thats one of many reasons you know awkward knows what hes talking about when it comes to that i believe he back in watergate days had a source that. Turns out that i was the number two guy at the cia mark and he clearly did i put thirty years that he was the until he finally admitted that in fact he was so so its not its not surprising that they were denied and you know let me get your expertise here since you do comparisons between the Richard Nixon and watergate and and donald trump and his presidency the the anonymous author of the letter that was published last week in the New York Times do you see a parallel there with the deep throat character from the Watergate Scandal. Yeah very much so and i think that this whole idea of being an anonymous source yes is actually an american tradition that goes all the way back to the federalist papers weve seen or hamilton and those are anonymous implicit they use an american tradition to speak this way and in certain instances but theres very much apparently a lot here in very much parallel between these two men who great actor both were of champions both their impulsive nixon it behind the scenes under tapes which ive listened to extensively does it out in the open in twitter in Crest Counters when youre holding the seminar then for lawyers in the u. S. When youre talking about the of the comparisons here you know what do you tell them are lets say you know the two strongest similarities between nixon and drop. Yeah i think that the strongest similarity is the impulsiveness nixon perusia
people in. Cambodia actor in vietnam war over over a one day decision that he maybe Didnt Consult very impulsive it true the country upside down with Kent State Shootings student said university here in the United States so that impulsive activity is one of the things that we show through the piece but we also show nixon saying repeatedly th