Transcripts For DW The Day - News In Review 20170929 : compa

Transcripts For DW The Day - News In Review 20170929

So the people of kurdistan have made their decision and entered a new phase different from anything in the past. Voice theres no way do you blame us for this but that they took advantage of the situation and broke the bounds of the constitution and i would put up with more than one i dont want to say they will use force. But if barzani and the Northern Iraq administration will go down in history bearing the shame of pushing our region into an endless sectarian war over here. That iraq after two thousand and three was a step list by american and Coalition Forces america has to mediate to save the blood of iraqis and avoid civil war between kurds and arabs. Also on the show the founder of playboy who had. There is died at the age of ninety one ill speak to a former editorial director of flyboy magazine about the man and his legacy coming up but first iraqs kurdish minority has said yes to independence but the vote is having major consequences for the entire region baghdad doesnt want the region a breakaway and has announced a raft of retaliatory measures neighboring iran and turkey both have large kurdish minorities of their own and theyre pushing for this result to be overturned the most immediate effect though is going to be on flights in and out of Iraqi Kurdistan theyre due to be suspended on friday. Uncertainty clouds the air for tourists and in both the capital of iraqs kurdistan region their plans may be cut short after the independence referendum iraqs government is cracking down all International Flights coming in and out of the city will be halted at the end of the week the head of the airport says this closure will not just affect the kurdish people. We have a beacon on but off refugees that using the airport and we used to be a bridge between syria and you in toulouse since the humanitarian eight two of those places and we hosted Coalition Forces here so this is meant to be put everything. After voting for succession kurds in iraq could hardly contain themselves thousands flooded the streets in Northern Iraq to celebrate the referendum they had been pushing for for years we have been living under occupation and suffering for one hundred years but today we rejected that yes for independence and freedom for the kurdish people. Iraqi kurdistan is already an autonomous region but the minority kurds want to break away to form an independent state that would include areas like the Oil Rich Region near cute cook. Baghdad has called the vote unconstitutional iraqs Prime Minister has vowed to keep iraq from breaking apart. But they took advantage of the situation and expanded outside the constitution i dont want to say that we will use force but we will use understanding and constitutional means if they respond to this then thats fine and today i demand that they return all the areas they recaptured from the Islamic State its what parliament decided. Iraqs neighbors have also rejected the referendums results the turkish president warned that the kurds responding an ethnic war in the region a lot at stake here daniel girl off as a middle east analyst from zenith magazine he joins me now for more daniel thanks for being in the studio with us having me is barzani playing poker here is he really betting for independence or is this the beginning of a negotiation barzani is definitely a great poker player and he understands the power gamble in the middle east very well and hes part of it. I think its an option and its a very viable option for them i think he has a strong power base of people who believe that independence is the right way to go with all the collapsing structures and states around them and i think there is Something Else stake which is his political survival and his familys political survival because hes not an contender and theres other contenders and i think this referendum is a Good Opportunity to rally support in courtice tano in the caribbean Northern Iraq behind him and turkey really does not want this to happen how dangerous are those threats of intervention in turkey. Turkey has been intervening in the north of iraq at multiple occasions they have been targeting the p k k in the condom mountains with the consent silent consent of the government by the way they have probably protested every now and then but they let them operate there. I think. Of course we know him he would like strong words and he likes to express his views in a spectacular fashion but i think. The political strategic is they have made their peace with the idea that there is going to be some sort of kurdish strong autonomy or even independent state in the north of iraq and lets not forget that they are one of their Main Business partners but i think the big mistake that the kurds in the north of iraq might make is they have been the l. I of many powers as long as they were an undeclared independent state but once they turn into a really independent state i think they will many of their but theyre just and countries many of the neighbors will turn against them and they will make many enemies and turkey might be one of them but lets not be naive i think out of god knows whats going on he knows that this was this was going to happen sooner than later ok so this has been in the cards youre saying what is it going to mean for the fight against isis. The kurds have done a great deal of fighting against isis the peshmerga have taken on isis and theyve been very close to it but lets not forget that the iraqi army and the militias call the Popular Mobilization forces the house to xabi also sacrifice many lives in the lot of a lot of assets also to reconquer mosul and i think as long as these the socalled Islamic State can be cause can be contained or defeated this is not going to be the real problem the real struggle is going to stop between the peshmerga and between the Kurdish Regional government and backed out and its allied militias because there is a lot of contested territory which has nothing to do with isis which became somehow an acute conflict namely quoque diyala other regions in the north of of what would be the remaining territory if iraq so i think if the if the government of the kurds are not lets say complacent within these negotiations that this this could end and in another Armed Conflict but at the moment i dont see that because they have each others phone numbers they have been negotiating for a long time and i think back that and or below as long as they just exchanged words strong words they know whats at stake you ok sound optimistic who has the tension global way to diffuse the situation if anyone. Well of course some fans or is the United States and russia ive talked to russian experts about the like the idea of an independent kurdish state and. They say we dont mind to have another i mean thats not the official position of course but if you talk to russian expert they say we have iran and turkey at a sudden interest they want to influence in our Southern Comfort a comfort zone we dont mind having another state but we dont want to push for it and i think the russians are trying to gain some leverage through a quarter state but the americans a president too so i think these two powers have have a lot of leverage to at least two two which would delay a decision of an Independence Movement but i dont think that they can stop it i dont care a lot hes a middle east analyst with thing with magazine thanks for being with us on the thanks for having me. Also the fallout from the german election now the far right alternative from germany won more than ninety seats in parliament raising fears of a potential surge in populism and anti semitism for those who lived through the holocaust some of the i. A. F. Days rhetoric is hauntingly familiar we spoke with horst zellweger a holocaust survivor who endured forced labor under the nazis and saw most of his family murdered now ninety years old so my guess is that for him the rise of a. F. G. Comes as no surprise its a kiss most i didnt do it can deal with. Fascism in germany never went away it just took on a new form you know you feel. Like its the. Yeah yeah i dont see. We will hound this government we will hunt down chance of the america or whomever else we need to we will take back our country and there are people. Who go through that and want to see one thing from the borders from one hundred thirty nine again. Yeah. Clearly remembers the beginning of nazi rule in germany at school in berlin he was virtually abused and beaten up by his classmates. The thing. It started with him calling me horrible names like smart alec jew or jewish pig. It got worse and worse more offensive and then deadly. In my two. Sixty one members of bigots extended family were murdered in the holocaust fascism and germanys coming to terms with its nazi past our core issues in his life and after seeing so much in his ninety years hes horrified by sundays german election result hes been sharing his reactions online. To be honest i dont understand the astonishment and anger that he i have today has made it into parliament nazis have been in Parliament Since one thousand nine hundred forty nine they had nazi ministers one was even chancellor. Yorkies inger was chancellor from one thousand nine hundred sixty six to sixty nine former nazi Party Members held seats in the west German Parliament until the one nine hundred eighty s. Across most of the political spectrum. The advocacies the rise of the f. T. As a continuation of this tradition. Yes. I just hope that a real change of thinking happens here. And that this long standing refusal to take the fire right seriously will finally be confronted. We have to expose this ugly extremism and i hope this confrontation will play out in the new German Parliament that. I dont want to see the i have to take over on the contrary. For more im joined now by being labor hes the correspondent for berlins tog newspaper and focuses on right wing populism and the a. F. D. Founding thanks for being with us today we heard mr selinger in that report say fascism in germany never went away and he sees the a. F. D. Is a continuation of naziism do you think thats an accurate description of them. I think its a little bit too easy to describe i think theres not a real continuity between for example enabling or nazis in the fiftys or sixtys of this of the last century and these new right thing populists i mean they tried to reinterpret for example the history and they are for example in islamophobia a party i think but its not not and repeat cation of the nazi party of the of the last century i think so we have to be a little bit careful when it comes to definitions here i think now would you classify the f. T. As antisemitic the problem here is that the a fifty is not an openly Antisemitic Party its quite the opposite in the interpretation of the safety of how they interpret themselves for example the former. Chairman of the party of how completely i mean shes that down now but she for example described the a fifty as a kind of guarantee power for jews living in germany to protect them when it comes to and this may take forces or to and to submit to sentiments from migrants for example so and another example is that they have strong ties to some organizations in israel for example so that dont distance themselves from israel but on the other hand i think they really tried to. Yes to to to. Reinterpret the german history in some way so youre saying there revisionist hamas denial is a crime here in germany its not everywhere in the world but it is here how revisionists is they actually. Here it comes as well to the birding because you dont have any prominent politician of the a few who is really denying the holocaust but for example under golland another prominent politician of the f. T. Talked recently about these twelve years when it came to the nazi period so and in germany in germany normally you very openly speak about the nazis about hitler germany for example there are some some words and not about these twelve years that sounds very distant for me yes and i think. Here its yes that is the problem here yes when we talk about anti semitism in germany and specifically in berlin some of the reports of antisemitic attacks have been coming not from the far right but allegedly from muslims your paperwork morning on this alleged incident at a Berlin School involving arab and turkish students bullying a jewish student how big is that problem. I mean we have this problem here but we are discussing about this problem and i think it should not be a topic of this right from Populous Party alone so we should talk about migration and maybe these people who are coming if they are refugees they are coming indeed from countries like syria where antis emit. Opinions were very openly discussed all right thats fabienne labor hes a correspondent for berlind tog spiegel newspaper thanks for being with us on the day thank you. Well the founder of playboy hugh hefner has died at the age of ninety one hefner gained instant fame when he launched Playboy Magazine in the one nine hundred fifty s. The adult publication created the sensation in conservative america after spawning the brand into a publishing empire but critics accuse him of degrading and objectifying women flowers and a string of well wishes for the bunny king outside the famous playboy mansion in los angeles. It was here that hugh hefner ran his media net ten months empire usually clad in his trademark so pajamas. It takes a special event to get me to. Get out of my pajamas. And put on a pair of pants. With a cafferty crafted mix of nude photos highbrow articles and big name fiction have struck a chord with playboy more than sixty years ago the mens magazine quickly became a roaring success half not his girly bag and his lifestyle was symbols of the sexual revolution and shook out puritanical American Values really brought the pop culture to life you know it during a time when it was very conservative and this was something that kind of went against the grain but he did it in a very tasteful way and you know and hes just created so many great things as a result the do we know it really bringing pop culture as well whole new level others condemn techno for degrading women treating them as objects of male fantasy just as many were fighting for basic rights and equal opportunities the internet age so playboy circulation plummet but by then half turned his bunnies had already transformed popular culture. And more than six decades later hes still a household name for more on hugh hefner im joined now by christopher nepali tano he was the editorial director of Playboy Magazine between two thousand and five and two thousand and nine chris our thanks for being with us know your title was editorial director because editor in chief was reserved for hugh hefner sounds like a man who was very involved in his business well liked working for him i was great it was a big business and his focus was the magazine and then its very content in america so in one hand. Frequent dialogues with them and on the other hand he was there to. Protect our decisions and and oh i was to do what we did. Weve weve heard a lot about who have been our throughout the day good things bad things in your mind a few people who knew him personally tell us about your favorite or anecdotes oh my goodness well he was just you know always very very entertaining always very engaged he was extremely smart so i often didnt want to tangle with him or debate with him on the phone or in person i would have to gather my thoughts he would he had some phrases just like you find if i knew what the hell you were trying to do it would help you do it. You know and. He always was very forthcoming about his personal life i remember going out to the mansion right after one of his girlfriends of broken up with him in a very public way and he said i dont have he said personally and professionally ok personally how you doing is like i feel like road kill my hearts been smashed over but tonight were having a party and maybe theres some young coed will make me feel better and then he gave a big you know his trademark cackle. So you know he he was a guy who who knew what he was about very sure footed very sure thinking if he didnt have an opinion on something it meant that it wasnt worth having an opinion on. So whereas i am a bit of a pleaser and i always want to give the right answer for have just said what he thought he had that direct connection between his his mind and his mouth and he was very very adept at expressing. Some some good thoughts in said that you yourself are a bit of a place where you studied comparative religion as a student at columbia and you have any qualms about working in a magazine that features full frontal nudity. No you know i was raised catholic and so all of that kind of. It kind of had an impact on the way i learned to look at the world and comparative religion is not theology for saying its about how the bible was put together particularly my area of study was the new testament so to learn about how these various stories were were compiled in called lated and then later seen as the word of god is you know very regular tory. You know you learn that jesus had no brother to which im catholic dogma is really not allowed so going from that cuts a verse of thought to Something Like playboy believe it or not there are a lot of catholics drawn to this kind so i was not alone i think i can believe that you know it is that you know its a very sad but playboy its been around for what like sixty years it survived and magazine publishing crisis the advent of internet pornography how do you manage to stay relevant and just stay in business. You know its an interesting question i think was the First Magazine to be a brand i mean it was the precursor to what all magazines are talking about today were not a magazine were brand were online grown social well playboy was very social it had clubs you know it had hotels it tried to bring

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