Transcripts For DW DW News 20190801 08:00:00 : comparemela.c

Transcripts For DW DW News 20190801 08:00:00


raney and. the the russians the north koreans pull frosting on mccain as he was is a said you don't think this is a stalemated situation it's not now all the countries that are liberal democracies that have the rule of law recognize our constitution and they recognize the legitimacy of one why they are that we are in a situation where a drug cartel has taken all the leaders of power by the way doesn't mean you're going to succeed does doesn't mean you're going to see them die trying we have no option but to fight for our people i will fight for my people until i draw my last breath how long do you think president maduro can hold on now 6 years i hope. weeks of mass protest in hong kong show no sign of coming to an end but how long will beijing put up with you more than a few weeks ago a few days ago that if things got worse the chinese army might consider taking to
the streets you said when there's trouble in hong kong when things turn sour there's violence in our history our fear is that if the police are now able to control what is happening here there's a remote risk the chinese army would get involved how remote is that risk if it's so well known of the why why did you why did you mention no i hope you will never happen why did you mention if if it's a remote risk you're trying to frighten people no it's a fact everybody understand except you you don't understand it hong kong is a place where it has been operating is operating under the one country 2 systems it is a not very successfully is it calm it's a huge political compromise we are part of china under the basic law china has a responsibility to ensure that hong kong is stable everybody who is doing business here want to see hong kong to be stable. all right so yes under the basic law there
is provision for the the beijing government to interfere if nobody hoped that it would happen i'm trying to say that we are trying to of avoid this happening so i'm not instilling fear into people i'm simply reflecting what is stated in the basic law and what is the political reality of the situation of course we created size the hong kong government especially the council tried to establish a law which hong kong residents disagree and it doesn't trust sold that we show you the latest kerry last year that to you the chief executive you blame the carrier kerry land the chief exec she's beijing's appointing russian history she is the appointee even so-called elected by some hong kong representation is still there why is why hasn't she was more asked how can people as from people is there democracy in syria system we need we in hong kong need to gain the trust and confidence of beijing so that they can allow us the freedom of
political reform what about the other way round what about beijing's duty to earn the trust of people in hong kong once both ways where they have managed you know this fight has runs both ways only 2 years they have managed it's only that's unfair and they've been doing of the most to try to win you know holes all show that people do not of the majority of people still do not identify something to identify as also beijing or my national guard would have to work on them everybody would come to work harder you think the people of hong kong should play nice to their masters in beijing i might throw them to you crumbs i do use only the use of the words the words i use is that we should communicate with each other and wish to instill confidence in each other that's what i'm saying why china is not using force to press down be demonstration why the compromise. why because they seek opportunity to prove they can chant. this week convict zone is at the
annual security conference in munich i mean plenty of recriminations and bad blood between europe and washington are you trying to tell me that europe has lived up to its commitments under nato is that what you're trying to tell me because believe me there is no belief or that on anybody's part that some of the european nations are not living up to their commitments and indeed look i've done this for 10 years i've come over here and tried to talk the nato countries into living up to their agreements they patted us on the head and said all well we're on track to try to do this or try to do that let me put it bluntly the problem is that many member states don't trust donald trump to this his commitment to nato and why should that i mean he's done everything he could to undermine trust that he's 100 percent behind it you know i haven't seen that clearly donald trump has shaken things up there's no question about it he's got a big movement is not my only allies to sit up and take notice because he was very
concerned about the lack. of fair burden sharing inside the alliance and he wanted allies to pay more in his inimitable way he got everybody to pay attention to the necessity of putting more money into their defense budgets chancellor angela merkel said last year that there were good reasons to continue fighting for the transatlantic relationship but we had she added we can't count on it anymore. well i i'm sorry she feels like that we don't feel like that in the sense of representatives they had so little confidence in chumps intentions toward nato that last year they had to pass a law with bipartisan support stating that it's u.s. policy to remain a member of nato prohibiting funds to be used to withdraw from the alliance so little punk shouldn't do they have in their president's commitment to nato her a i saw that as a great expression in washington of bipartisan support for nato and i saw it when
we were there 10 days ago for the 70th anniversary nato as well supported across both sides of the aisle that's a great thing as well why are you going off isaac and not by the president there are 200 countries in the world right the vast majority of them believe that barack obama's brand of leadership was far better than either george bush is or down from you see the curve go like this under obama and then like this under trump in europe and asia and latin america and africa and so we can talk about israel where president obama had very sharp differences with right wing government led by bibi netanyahu but i don't think that there wasn't it wasn't just the sharp differences there were deep contradictions in the middle east policy good well we i mean you have a whole belief in that you voted against them u.s. president to anchor in israel this was rooted largely in the iran nuclear agreement and if we had to do it over again if the price of having a better relationship with israel was not having iran nuclear agreement and potentially going to war with iran that was not a price that we were going to pay all the latest polls show the french germans the
british now regard the us as a greater danger to their interests than china would you regard as your prime danger how much blame do you think washington should take for that. well. sometimes events drive us in a direction that we shouldn't be driven. we. we don't feel the same way about our european friends or were more like kerry you know there are a lot of recriminations these days to get over iran. in more regard to the round deal that europe continues to abide by surely one that you get out of well we didn't walk out of it the president states at that time barack obama entered into that agreement. over the objection of a lot of us it did not have the things in it that it needed to have and it was very weak it did indeed address one issue but i viewed the
iran. deal as a deal to try to discipline a bad boy in the classroom that was doing 5 bad things they addressed one of them but they're interested a big one didn't they dress one of them a big one they addressed one of them ben rhodes in the short time that we have left let's look ahead to the next presidential election next year. what kind of democratic party do you think is going to be capable of beating donald trump with his massive following his dominance of the airwaves is dominance of social media which proved so devastating in the last presidential election what kind of democratic vote is going to be able to i think under the current but the massive following is 40 percent he is the most unpopular us president to run for reelection in my life he sets the news agenda is a very well then doesn't they dominate in the years that it takes
a look at what has got to live with the world as it is or doesn't check the democratic party just routed down times republican party it got sort of we won 40 seats in the house yeah and the and won by the largest popular vote. margin in the history of mid-term election the largest democratic victory in the house since watergate. voters in the european parliament elections have shaken out the continent's politics turning away from the major power blocs that have dominated brussels in recent years and boosting the smaller groupings the greens the liberals and the far right apparently european voters weren't so keen on the status quo in the more do you accept a share of the blame for the for the 1st voter participation has been very very high historically 51 percent more or less in medium in and out of europe but they don't like the status quo by came out to say that but this leaves the democratic legitimacy to european institutions shows that people start to understand how
relevant to european union is and that it really affects their daily life and they future their one mark and ability their one more transparency i think they will. ask much more participation for whoever is going around europe in the future that's a nice way of spinning it isn't that the top jobs were carved up in a kind of backroom stitch up that people were told wasn't going to happen again and it did it did despite all these promises why you let the voters than not i mean 1st of all why do you speak about the backroom deal i mean it was so transparent. and all the process in the names in the game i think it was very very true not according to the outgoing commission president he called it not very transparent quite an indictment from john burns that wasn't it's true but i don't have to agree with him on this point i think it's not the best process but it's the process that this is right in the treaties people are losing faith in the here's the paradox isn't the highest level of support for membership since 1983 but more than half the
people of europe think he was likely to collapse within a generation all the while for the 1st brackets is also the legacy of our societies out of the chaos and implosion that unfortunately we have seen in the u.k. has been a vaccination rather than infection for the rest of europe we have seen so you should be stronger so as a result of that we have seen if i can finish my sentence to you're a barometric kountry of to count tree you're planning a popularity has increased even in hungary with a few exception of czech republic and we have seen one after the extreme right political parties dropping the agenda of leaving the european union and leaving the euro why all the doubts about whether the e.u. can actually stay together i mean spain's foreign minister yours a barrel was asked in the interview if it was so fragile if europe was so fragile it could break up his comment was honestly yes honestly yes yes so europe has
always been growing start out of big crisis we were born out of the ashes of world war 2. and there we are led to is that is one of the best places in the world to live we never had it so good in europe but voters are the they are very disappointed very disappointed and it was supposed to be about them you were seeing the turnout go down in every single election since the european elections started and this was the big push to rope more people in because they were going to be listened to and they weren't yes i mean the call it's a bit this is a big failure whichever way you like to spin it but it is a big fan i mean the publication of democracy representative democracy is what i'm talking about but the participation in the european elections has been raised also because of the better understanding of the citizens about the need of the because the expectation they might actually be listened to that's why they voted they were told it is going to be different let's just go back to europe and the new political landscape after the european elections e.f.t.
is joining the. identity and democracy group which is going to be the 5th largest group in the european parliament the 3rd largest which is what you're aiming for your party promises to be a thorn in the flesh of the establishment what does that mean she's going to block and disrupt create trouble now what we're trying to get out is the message that we're in favor of the european union and that has been set up by the founding fathers of the european union we are against the f a closer union we want to keep this of the serenity of the nation states what we think is that democracy only functions within a nation state and we want to work together where it is necessary to do so but we do not want to to move towards ever closer you know extreme right populist did not have. the earthquake they expected to have been actually have an earthquake are
scandals and the liberal liberal conservative forces are stronger than previously the greens advanced the socialist collapsed the extreme left lost almost 50 seats fighting has ago there was no far right at all was there so you hold the door open for them during the last 5 years i think this is not the time for blame game me this is the time to stand for the truth isn't it time to look at what happened the achievements of the last 5 years back to where each passing day it's come to mean aboard this united kingdom a more damaged weaker government the reason i was ever in my heart was never in the thing so you why i saw it as a kind of damage limitation exercise so you say that she said she was quite concerned to deliver products that she promised on innumerable occasions to deliver back and she failed and in the end i'm afraid we'll have to fail well sure the party lost confidence in and so did the house of commons but there was a lot of ignorance on belief so it wasn't i mean even among some of the most
visible campaigns like boris johnson for instance when he was questioned on t.v. last september turned out he didn't know that switzerland was in the single market and refused to accept it when he was told that was the quote i'm not responsible for what boris is the we voted to let your living breaks it and you hear this sort of nonsense come out why don't you say this is wrong we're british people deserve the referendum result to be implemented it isn't the truth be told tonight something they deserve and they don't deserve a whole lot of m.p.'s who say they accept the referendum results and are campaigning against it you happy that boris johnson being ordered to appear in court over claims that he lied during the referenda well over this 350000000 pounds a week to be well the person he's done by his is an absolute on the line and actually if it's not matter well yes of course it why it doesn't have a bearing on the. merits the senate well it does because clearly he's doing it from a particular perspective if the aim is to damage boris it will have precisely the
opposite effect you know i do advise our european partners not to overplay their hand what your negotiators seem to obsess about is that britain must appear to lose no from this absolutely not i mean you have made it clear that leave leaving the e.u. is a mistake and that should become a self-fulfilling prophecy now now written has to lose its losers britain has to look i mean you played the part but but that again is a lunacy i mean. no we just say that membership of the european union has benefits and of course if you're not pampered you don't enjoy those benefits it's not punishment it just statement of fact the is the largest trading group in the world they hold all the cards it's their club that you're leaving they will decide what rules apply should you wish to take advantage of some of the. privileges on offer. with that club yeah for i think what i thought we had in our manifesto 18 months or
so ago was that we wanted to create a comprehensive training arrangement with the veil agreed on those have come and in every one of those would be japan i'd be quite happy just to replicate the terms of that you've been saying that no deal is increasingly attractive but that's not what you and your vocally colleagues promised the country was it time and again they promised great deals with the you and everyone else and so they just fall into britain slapped and they turned out to be student well. i have to confess that i think it's in the european union's interests to strike a sensible free trade deal with the united kingdom. and whether we make that agreement before we leave which looks rather unlikely or after we leave i believe that that's what will happen but in the end my point is that we're broken promises we're. the vote leave campaign didn't make promises we were campaigning it's your presumption that there will be maybe a crash out without the deal but it's not said the deal is on the table in the u.k. in the next prime minister can still subscribe to it or make propositions how we

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