we will maintain the finest fighting force of the world has ever known the world has ever known is ever going. to need a new computer but most really i just don't like the imagery that comes out in most people's books. like any other thing in global finance it's just the military trade . contractors don't like her going to her ground. triggered. the syrian government's banks of the iraq including was considered a good deal. rb art for you on the are you. dear school great. we have a mismatch between the way we are now just more and the reality of the twenty first century. can we do any more could we find someone to be good for board and really don't mean you get what you mean from. b.b.c. world service and you have to keep trying to get it wrong. and it continues to maintain a high passes in the country to knowledge of us and to see in the world the situation of goodness john the center crucial for the international troops to go control over to the afghan forces be sure just situation really critical to the country. says without america out there that we are stuck by my own stuff in iraq. this is a job as one commander says he wants. so yeah right now if i just use other funds or have these i guess most of it is against some of them the outward after i'm done some. day nothing other than some right now down there tonight we do stuff my money out before the biggest museums in was going to miss out my mom. so how many are sending out that you should be your child soldiers into the night on staff and i can tell you. that i'm never going to miss some little band resorted to using a gun not because of their dispute that people will come it isn't what you're telling them it would be to be honest than english. gandhi should those who won five. years companies risk on power money on track as we sometime on onto them. for example have been given a sandwich and. the private military industry is a part of how the country is in fights wars today. u.s. government doesn't track the number of contractors it uses in places iraq or afghanistan we know it's a lot we don't really know exactly how many. i spent several years working within the industry i have a military background and one of the differences between being a soldier i found and being a private military contractors that when you work for the u.s. military or any military you take a sacred oath that you're going to serve and fight for your country and necessary die to protect a way of life one that you believe in the loyalty of these companies and these businessmen's change depending on market forces this industry is not just what you see is what you get. when you see a company you don't know exactly who's working for them they hire and they sometimes create what we call subs sub contractors. there's been commanders in afghanistan who just simply say we don't know who the subs of the subs the subs are so you have all these a good layer of a contract. united states army and the military in general is so reliant on the private sector i would call it a dependency but we don't know the on the ground presence of these companies overseas we just don't know. just so do all in somalia and i couldn't make it up because there was no job i didn't. and my friend called me he told me that a and. very civic on sci there we recruit seem guys so cool so it's not so iraq if you just use weapons and we are well trained in it come for comply on. was. that the very idea of my compliant batting for iraq revamp our war and memories come back from the past i thought that we could see most of the know when i'm seeing this and i'm thinking. most of the now. when i get past. it like inform iraq i do. it with marking from iraq you see it out you need to. see what a shallow fighter to water you are not on ice you know who goes to move basic weapon which is only people that become qualified to go to iraq. from a shell young government has access to iraqi crude and was considered a quite good deal in the sense that they could actually take no good troublemaker us sitting there waiting back for a couple of years and then returning them after two years with money and from that overseas deployments this could surf to stabilize security in sierra leone. and i was really crazy in iraq because since the fed i stepped my fists in iraq every day there was a bombing they bombed a village there is a rockets. every day we have rockets fired. every day i had gone shots every day of bombing in common incoming only good. if you know what soups i need to damage four of our guts four of the civil union guys well trained guys. soon i say original rock i called my mom and say mom i'm in iraq she said oh what i said i mean iraq no no you're kidding i said no moments i'm in iraq i said mum just watching the number what's the number and she watched the number. she was she was just she was yelling oh daddy yeah i said no more dems no problem here we see if we are not using weapon we are you here as does our i convinced my mom i said we are doing just domestic walk in iraq she told all the neighbors their own son my son he's in iraq you know he's doing. cooking job. with. this young man what has been for mainly by young combatants. looking for young men to perform military jobs and the chances are quite good that they have also been child soldiers. or you ever came in and things like that actually. i was it to. me it took my father my mother and put it on the front. as you know it's my father i would cry i would raise my brother. to leave. did we do on children just watching from. you know she wished he would be a video to give you a poem a fact which was us you know i don't know what's right what's he talking about. shall we sure enough to keep. you. right. equal to which your pretty sure you died to have the money three thousand officers if not god every day very much rooted i've seen my father argue my way out week next i get i would keep. from going to. the facts. i said no i don't want a tree so i stopped so i go to this that's a used in this stuff it's in my book. and i put this on the board and i wanted to know what's for breakfast the city just because i want to make sure. you're there more so i thought this. cool in my house. when i was young. i don't let off things that i've been scindia. a lot of. which is not good for human beings. what we pay to use because. of the job. done when this is. all you have to go to bed then you don't go dutch you two have been came. in about fifteen countries i've been involved in programs to integrate children who are certain armed forces. it's a contradiction in terms on the one hand western countries have pumped large sums of money into the reintegration of former. child soldiers but now we have governments like us supporting these so-called security companies that recruit people and continue their exposure to violence and cement their identities as perpetrators of violence as soldiers but make it impossible to ever reintegrate into civilian life. now i would that the current methods. this is ours it's i as well as my job. if these weapons. are one time when the dockets came into account to kill a lot of. hours on top of that. looking now we had an explosion has taken place. i think it will swell doing when people are dying on the street. the explosion is sickening all over the city not anytime had a gunshot had a ball all watch over explosion i think about my consciousness happens every four. when you brought with you that. you faced before. it actually. entered it to. full force. shit that's a mighty member. school district what a nice what's happened instead you should. feel. you ought. to know. i feel is that you often don't you think it's not good well to because alone. i don't have to. as makes me. go up with. ideas which. may seem like an act of free will it is not young people in syria we don't have no jobs they're desperate to feed themselves and their families and result is that it becomes harder and harder to ever find their way back into civilian life and they may plant seeds of violence wherever they go. while we. always remember one thing i'm dumb arse off why we're so when i when i have a one. on one when you are not in a what it's a what because i'm fully functional all around which means. i can do anything with it. you know i spend my life working to do and the rehabilitation and the reiteration of young people and it pains me to see my own government supporting the behavior of so-called security companies you know we pride ourselves on being a moral people trying to do the right thing what we're doing is we're exploiting people using young people who've been child soldiers deliberately sending them into the jaws of combat and further violence nothing could be worse for these young people nothing could be worse for security. when we think of war and the warrior who fights it we have this image and our mind and of a man and a uniform with. an uniform means they're fighting as part of a military serving a nation because if they fight for their force political op patriotism and yet when you look at the wars of the twenty first century they don't match those assumptions anymore now we have outsourced a lot of our war fare to private military companies. and one ways makes a great deal of business sense you're able to get labor at cheaper rates but what it does is complicates an already complicated situation. so you cut your costs you make more profit and you get the soldier that you want but you also majorly dilute the professionalism in the effectiveness of those so. i find so many parallels between this industry and other industries that offer up large. numbers of labor for hire and transnational markets so there's parallels between engineering and construction very soon i'm going to bring you the best trained people in the world but then actually i'm just kind of poland as much cheap labor as i can trying to get the difference between you know what your pay mean and what i'm taking in and giving out you know. if you want to hang. on. to the. third country nationals are generally cheaper if it's just like and the other thing in the global finance right and having a factory in american or western europe that works but the factory nature in that same with this it's just the military trade. company is self interest it's different than national self interest companies are profit maximizes what they do that's natural except here we're not creating you know toys we're producing thing as a result of the war. the background of this changing nature of war and fights that dates back to the very start of the private military industry itself. into the early ninety's the top security industry is a dull commercial industry. outright most of these. bringing down governments for the cash. which it should have comes to first prop up private military company it was exactly that it was a private company that could field a full on me dismissed. it just to take a soldier we incredibly highly trained and have moved into the private sector with brushes to be cool for theo's leachman saying is your true but just false. you know. exactly of outcomes is a legend in this business. they formed and soft africa as apartheid ended. they had a background in some of the special police forces during apartheid this elite units had death squads some of the most controversial units in terms of their human rights records. what more one downed need to go to do. their work for oil companies they work for governments like angola and certainly own and this became controversial and the international committee stepped in and said that you can't hire except about comms. so another company called sandline international out of london sort of ended up taking on some of e.o.'s contracts. can you explain what exactly sun find internationally is and what you do and so on . it is a company that provides military consultancy services for governments or large corporations. at the time the idea was to get very posh english officers on top of these private military companies and tim spicer was an officer in the military british military he got out and was asked to come help with a company called sandline. all things i think about comes row going to be in this we think they're extremely good street and professional we're very good track record there are no. skeletons in the cupboard is it mean we think that they're very good human rights record. and we would use them. be hires the same people sought after that but now they're legitimate because they're working under contract. to spicer was considered a respectable and of a mercenary organization but at first this business affairs didn't go too well he was dogged by failure. the company run by tip spicer fell behind a couple hundred fifty days by customs and excise it is accused of smuggling weapons illegally. when a private firm gets involved in foreign politics for the benefit of a criminal but you have to stop and ask ok this really happened or is this a fictitious you know james bond type story but is it was a true story. about everest on the way. in papua new guinea sound line or arrested at the airport shuttle spicer is facing firearms charges linked to his visit to provide south african trade routes reason to put down local report. sign. the line eventually collapsed on the way to bet of just the ones that say you know in the short term you can say that was the most successful company in terms of delivering an enormous amount of money to his shuttles and civils to invest. in a career where he was able to find what would then become one of the most significant for them if you took me in the world. he just. went on a level occurred everything. the contractor content of the armed forces went up astronomically at this hour american and coalition forces were in the early stages of military operations to disarm iraq . ideologically republicans my party wanted every single public function to be scrutinized analyzed evaluated and if possible privatized general shinseki the head of the us army at the time testified to congress and said if we're going to do iraq it's going to take several hundred thousand u.s. troops and very quickly the rest of the bush administration reacted negatively and he's absurd that's crazy it's not going to require those amount of troops and they actually simply drowned him out of the military it turned out he was right we did deploy several hundred thousand forces it was just through private military. so in the early days of iraq it was a gold watch you had companies coming out of nowhere including law clerk who was really look at how boy it was last year and nobody had any control anybody doing anything with firearms in this country could say their private military company. was an a.t.m. and his colleagues. from using private military contractors for understandable tasks to using private military contractors wholesale in my view took place without much debate and all everybody was a group. of. contractors offer some gray area benefits to politicians everybody's concerned like we have a thousand boots the ground nobody ever asks how many contractors there are there's don't like hard boots on the ground. and. continue to be in the. background that's underneath and not plunge back to cheat. because you're going to be fucking good. yes you too close to this i'm telling you all the girls own stuff and you can deduce that. you know both the wolf and let me know nothing about it nothing about me didn't mean. this. should mean. punishment much and then i done without. too much i mean sure to mean. bank i say did did you get skirt shoot first of a bad shot and run up in a ricochet to his car. and that's exactly. the private security companies had the sensitivity of something that civilians would often if not always get caught in the crossfire. to real problems for the military so we felt the contractor presence in iraq in particular but afghanistan too was becoming contrary to what the mission was for the armed forces therefore their presence was more danger that it was held. the problem was that we had all of these different private military companies running out we outsourced too quickly and they weren't coordinated both in contract terms but also in on the ground operational terms so what is your answer to a problem of outsourcing. outsource more we outsourced it to a private military company to coordinate the seemed to be ideal for us companies huge contract it was half a million dollars or just under that and was just suing the one of the large big american companies would win it but it didn't work out that way. colonel tim spies that hit the headlines a few years ago there in the arms to africa affair involving his old company san juan but kind of spies and now has developed a thriving business and private security and he recently won that monthly million pound contract well ten spies is with me now tim good morning what's your summary of the situation in terms of chaos or lord over i would only advise people to go there if the measures and put in place for their protection on sunday. he says contract in iraq was to have seen the communication coordination for all the private security companies on the ground. been effective meant that they were the general in charge of all the private contracts. at that point the us military was the largest machine presence in iraq but he had to get a hold of the private military contractors spicer's effectively in charge and second which some force or. very rapidly features secure machines from. a need to spy certainly treme healthy man. majority of americans now think it was a mistake to go to war in iraq. early in the iraq war the president stood before a banner that said mission accomplished three and a half years later the debate is back over why the u.s. is interact in the first place public support for the war is falling more americans want the troops to come home. in a brief ceremony on a base on the edge of baghdad the united states took down the flag of its command here to mark the end of the military mission. the u.s. money starting to be pulled out of the iraqi. freshens and the industry had to go through a very complicated reset. those companies had to realize that they weren't going to get that level of money again and so they had to offer a different package of deals that meant they would have to hire cheap the soldiers . in more. work. in the long haul to war. and. don't want talk or so mass. and. then you could add drops. all the usual. energy if you hardly. use food would have doubted it cannot do anything. and if you give you my doubt the financial news. you're certain i got it here. it. was one of my. synching stopped by with the most recent gene i was going to be so much moved. and i guess i'm just missing i'm gonna need. a whole body of a good old. i don't hold back a muslim you. got on me but i'll call. up the next what's the news youngster. in the initial story corps to. repeat it long sleeve called she's. got some truth in your flu shots people she loves. some people better than you see these. from people who will miss you still not like consequence i'm thinking of a smirk on. minds from my phone. more than. with . everybody. and i think we need a war to run you don't want. that mold me well i'm about to endure the x. . plenty of what's called. good for homs. in the sense. of frost. ice droplets. it's. already late what would you want to know when. your mother. destroyed her life. as roy said my friends from life. it would. take. a when i was just. was. the. when we first started into theater we were briefed on peruvian and columbia m. and m. the natural question you ask is so what do you think for these folks a little bit of time and i'm playing all spam results but i'm pretty good at that it was about a thousand to twelve hundred dollars and them oh i don't know six months a year ago it became. garden guards at about eight hundred dollars a month him out on this most recent trip the company that is winning all the awards that at this let's first start a herd of well we've got a good strategy were used in sierra leonean so you asked the question so so what are we paying informs two hundred fifty dollars a month. well you know i guess rhetorically i don't expect any answer and you know you can go a little lower get we find someone it's like we'll do it for boardroom you know that is such a terrible country that maybe they'll just go out of the country and be a free security guard i mean that's pretty inexpensive if i say that it sounds facetious but it's real. you know what will you get what you pay for. private security industry will continue to act for. you're going to see private companies in the training gauging in warfare. these are companies that are resisting our country to the companies who are thrown out. these companies that need to know how stuff just. fundamentally if you're seen snow democracy and your government takes an action that you don't agree with you can vote that government out if a company or from your country is doing something you just agree with there's nothing you can do. people care a lot when you're a dead soldier or dead marine shows up in this country and we start asking ourselves why did they die. why what were they fighting for nobody bothers to ask about that contractors. who cares i mean there's nobody going to die and come home in a body bag at denver and over whatever. every american who serves joins an unbroken line of heroes i'm awed by their sacrifice. there's no one going to go out and protest in the streets of a contractors killed. music to the ugandan in the opening rack and his family from sierra leone end up in afghanistan it's really your money it's your tax money. doing it but make sure cultishness to get from. private military contractors makes a decision to go to war a lot easier. 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