What do you think what do you get for 50 such. Big fish that i. Know a lot. Of the big deal about it which. Is a few stinking caulfields. Did you know it cost 0. 50 to feed a long hungry child for. If you want to. Have. A game oh no horse at all with this shouldnt be you can share your children with just 0. 50 and a tap on your smartphone together we can and Global Hunger please tell me of the hour. We were in hanover at the dome a tax trade fair which features state of the art flooring concepts the exhibitors at the purple 1000000000 offer top quality products and claim that they meet strict environmental standards. One stand belongs to the bows of each company the wood for bows of each has products comes from the Primeval Forests of the Amazon Region. The company assures consumers who are concerned about the environment that they can buy its products with confidence. Those of it has earned a seal of approval from the Forest Stewardship Council or if a see a Nonprofit Organization that promotes responsible management of the worlds forests. But can logging in rain forests ever really be environmentally sustainable. Trunk mel is a German Government expert on the sourcing and purchasing of tropical timber. Then
as if the most excited eyes of all when german consumers buy tropical Wood Products that are certified by the f a c they are making a contribution to the preservation of the rain forests and by supporting Sound Timber Management policies mr sufficient of the set us up for this year. But can buying products that have the f. S. E. Seal it really stop the excessive exploitation of Primeval Forest. The bows of each Company Harvest wood in the forests of peru to make flooring products. This is the author on go forest a pristine paradise in the amazon basin. We
want to find out where bows of itch and f. O. C. Certified Company Harvest timber for its wood floors are. And this local manager says the f. S. E. Has imposed strict guidelines on harvesting. In an area the size of a Football Field only one tree may be removed in 20 years. This process is called selective cutting. This is the tree theyre going to cut down today. There are 3 out of all the tree over there back there up the one in the middle the white one. Which is about. 20 meters high. Maybe a big. Boulder looming its about 60 years old and has been producing seeds for 50 years from the trunk is particularly straightforward and so we get a lot of what you are. Selective cutting is considered a sustainable procedure the f. S. E. Has given its seal of approval to the bows of each company for several years now. Thanks. Bowser bitch believes its taking a responsible approach and the German Government claims that the f. S. E. Is helping to preserve the rain forest fire. But is that really true to find out more we travel to Vancouver Canada for an f. A c. Conference. The organizations motto is forests for all forever. Will be your 1st sea has invited 1st Nations Peoples who live in the rain forests of southwestern British Columbia to perform as conserving forces also about the
estimated 100000000 people worldwide who call these areas home. Where were at risk from all sorts of conflicts Kim Carstensen is Director General of the f. S. A. And im so thrilled to be here with you. Its a conferences like this one to 3 future of the worlds forests is largely determined the f. S. E. Has members in 85 countries those. Who live in the forests members of the w w f and greenpeace and Industry Representatives all Share Responsibility for preserving our forests but while some want to protect nature others here want to cut down trees and f. S. E. Promotional video and there is the tree. In the forest where the tree ground. And the warming who cares for land. There is the
man who listens to the point to make sure it wants to sound. We asked him carstensen what his organization stands for. F. A c. Is about responsible Forest Management that means that this is a Forest Management that ensures that the forces that are now but there would also be the next year and the year after that for the next generation so if a city is very much about maintaining for this carbon maintaining force quality and to make sure that the forest is that also for the next generations. To ensure this Forest Management policies are regularly reviewed f. S. E. Conferences 3 groups are allowed to vote. For us dwellers environmentalists and the Timber Industry green. As usual in politics much of the policy work is done out in the lobby. Indigenous Forest Inhabitants fight to
preserve their Habitat Environmentalists aim to save Primeval Forest and industry wants to cut down as many trees as it can well keeping the f. S. E. Seal of approval. Image matters to Multinational Companies and f s c approval helps them look good. When it comes to forest certification. F. A c. Is the most rigorous and accepted system on the market right now. In theory all 3 groups have equal voting rights. But Greenpeace International a Founding Member of the f. S. E. Claims that environmentalists are being pushed around by the Timber Industry. And as well see later during this film Shoot Greenpeace took drastic action. At a conference in vancouver the f. S. E. Claim that under its leadership the worlds forests are in good hands what is the German Government say about that. Consumers alone should not have to bear all the
responsibility for preserving the forests its good for us we have to make sure that the companies that make wood and wood base products dont source wood from Primeval Forests in a non Sustainable Way that could destroy these would have been least 100. 00 tickets cost which often. Weve come to london to meet one of the sharpest critics of the f. S. E. Simon council was a cofounder of the organization but soon quit over policy disputes he believes that the f. S. E. Gives the Timber Companies too much power the Timber Industry itself has brought in as one of the Key Stakeholders of this body and part of the Decision Making process which we felt was strongly felt was flawed because the whole system was to be there to inspect and since regulate the tender industry so it shouldnt really have been involved. Council says the Timber Industry influence prevents the f. S. E. From making truly independent analyses. We want to find out whether thats true. We return to timber land licensed or concession to the bows of each company in peru. How do they make sure that f. N. C. Guidelines are followed. It this is proof of origin. We use these markings to keep track of this one from block 4. By line 33. Number 20. These markings are on every tree that ends up in a sawmill. Wood from f. S. E. Approved selective cutting is marked in red the f. S. E. Calls this controlled wood. Lumber from other suppliers that dont have the f. A c. Seal is marked in blue. In theory the red and blue stacks should stay separated as they are here but sometimes they get mixed together by mistake. Control is one of the big controversies inside if for some its always been a big controversy the good news i think is that we have to strengthen the Control Board stand up and i think everybody agrees now that there is a level of control. But what exactly does level of control mean. We travel to the Peruvian Capital Lima to meet an expert on the countrys Timber Industry. Who works for the Environmental Investigation Agency or an Advocacy Group shes just finished a report that indicates that many Timber Companies falsified documents on the origins of trees as shown by government investigations. Well there it is reports i dont see these are there or good movies before the show the largest number so. Thats ok because theres a lot of visits for years right so thats thats not
a surprise but the growth here is that they consistently keep showing large numbers of the papers. And then from there now 490 papers of the use of that where some both here at least 62 are you know i dont meant to be official i mean by the government when i buy people from a kid i think incredible and thats what we do. Because we think we want to think that we do something and so i actually feel very frustrated about it you know being able to believe or to the rough words not in my country. The wood from the peruvian forests is transported to the river ports of call kulpa. The tree trunks are tied together there are hundreds and probably thousands of logs here waiting to be shipped to lima for processing. A
local boat captain has some disturbing news. I think. All these logs have been cut down illegally. And everyone around here knows that. It is known as the hub of the illegal timber trade in peru is from here that illegally sourced logs gets shipped to Timber Companies. And the e. I. A. Says many will go to pose of it. Local insiders tell us where in the forest Illegal Logging is currently taking place. We plan to fly over those areas to capture aerial footage. We head toward the 1st location. After about an hour we see a recently logged area its been clear cut. A blue tent stands in the corner of the
bald patch in the middle of the jungle. A little while later we spot something that looks like a transport dock. Tree trunks line the waters edge they were probably brought here from the forest. It doesnt seem as if the f. E. C. Has managed to stop Illegal Logging here in peru. Regarding both revenge we are aware of the i. A. E. A. Reports we are aware that on phones for both the us will throw 2 shots you know into some of these cases to our knowledge none of that material were sufficient surety for her if she were to our knowledge then maybe astonishes with it but its not officially sure different therefore were still interested in the company because if the company is involved in the gun that she had one way or the other then thats of course an issue for us. Back in lima weve come to blows of Riches Log Processing Complex this is where the wood is prepared for export. Company
c. E. O. Drug oboes of it shows us prime lumber thats 100 percent f. A c. Certified. Although he also says logs do come in from known f. S. E. Suppliers. So that means you never had programs was illegal. Looks good we are having problems we are seeing problems everywhere we just try to be ahead of the borders. You know what do you know voter introversion. He says almost wherever did you cross to be security fired. So hes also a switcheroo youve got to be able to prove if you can. Go in with a secret. No you see that. Anywhere on you. So the f. S. E. Checks on the origin of the word but seems to ignore the fact that both of each has
traded in timber that may have forged origin documents. So how credible is the f s c seal of approval we asked Simon Council in london so one would think if youre buying a product with an f. S. B. Label that would be a quite simple message to the the would inside this product is all from an acceptable source that has been actually inspected by fs the audit is and guarantee to be from an acceptable source f. S. E. 100 percent in which the Label Product contains only f s e certified timber is actually just a very small part of the picture and the others are from what i call euphemistically controlled wood and controlled wood is that which. Hasnt actually been controlled so instead of. On behalf of fs the going into
the forest to inspect the Logging Operations its basically done from a desk somewhere else in born or in london ok so we have some examples of f. A c. Certified products here lets have a look at these labels. This paper if they see paper from responsible sources but importantly you see this word mix on here this particular product itself may have no f s e certified material in it so in that sense this label is misleading to the consumer in letting us believe that it is from responsible sources it may not be at all. So you may hear this product f. S. E. Mix toilet paper. Interesting here a box of. Watches. The knicks again some of the all some of these f. S. U. Certified from acceptable souls is in some of them not impossible to know from the
after seeing valuable. So what do you have to seize Director General have to say about the Organization Certification system. Theres no other system that works better than the system of certification theres no other system that is able to get together stakeholders and from an organization and social groups trade unions and the companies who are managing the forest to agree what do we mean by responsible Forest Management what are the standards that we want to set for how we define this no other system does that we in addition i have Quality Control which we have ordered set happen after companies such as. And if the Certification Team is meeting at this hotel in vaughan. Part of their work today will involve checking to see whether Timber Companies active in the worlds great forests are complying with the organisations guidelines. We want to find out how the Certification Process Works and file requests to accompany 10 different verifications but the f. S. E. Turns down our requests so we continue with our research. In the Congo Basin Forests European Timber Companies have permits that allows them to cut down trees in given areas with f. A c. Certification. In the capital brazzaville were meeting a man whos been approving those permits for years. Weve agreed to protect his identity. And were not going to specifically name the companies that hes going to talk about. I want to withdraw the certificate from a Certain Company but when i met with the boss of that company he got so angry i left the hotel immediately. That night i feared for my life when i told my boss about the meeting he also got angry and said i was no longer to inspect that Forest Concession the Timber Companies pay money to keep their certification we checkers are independent in theory but not really. Because in practice we go to a site do
a check and afterward nothing changes the companies go back to cutting down many more trees than theyre allowed to do. In such a situation you see what its like to see its its its really just. I think weve seen a situation where its absolutely possible to take action related to the certified operations in the congo basin one example would be that we disassociate it from interim across 4 years ago theyre now back in again because they improve their performance and all of that and this is sort of in the past but we could disassociate and it didnt create problems of that nature i dont. Weve come to the northern jungles of the Republic Of Congo to meet some of the local residents. They belong to a group of seminomadic Hunter Gatherers called the bug. In this area or sell in some of her Friends Girl Manioc and other crops from which they are now living. The
congo based company a subsidiary of the Swiss Company into hole co has purchased a permit to cut down trees here. The backup people say evil is making their lives difficult because Companies Security guards have imposed strict controls on the amount of crops they can grow within each of those concessions. The evil Forest Concession covers an area of about 11000 Square Kilometers massive logs get transported out by trucks the company says it takes a selective approach to cutting down the trees. The post says this selective cutting complies with f. A c. Guidelines. And the f. S. E. Says the logging roads dont harm the local environment. Matthew hansen is a geographer at the University Of Maryland in the us he uses nasa Satellite Maps to
keep track of how logging affects various regions around the world. Well sume into. The Republic Of Congo and all of a sudden you do see the logging road so youve seen these before. And so we can zoom in to a sort of f. S. E. Certified concession as evil concession the logging roads or beautifully maintained. Gorgeous you can see the the extractions of the trees themselves off the side of the logging road so this is very. Very clear that were getting actually logging signal in parts of these concessions not everywhere the different colors represent the different years of the cut so this was early in the 2000 this was a couple years ago this was a little 2016 it is amazing because youre bringing this Human Footprint and when were there we see the Forest Elephants you see the chimpanzees in the gorillas its like youve opened up this. Primeval forest and all of
a sudden you can drive you know 100 kilometers an hour straight down here to where nobody took you a few weeks to walk i think that theres a cascade of effects here that are changing what was. A natural forest eco system with and with low Population Levels of Subsistence Farmers and fisher people. And so now you have something pretty irreversible. Evocate people tell us theyre not even allowed to hunt anymore because the company has to protect the animals so it wont lose its efficacy label. Denies these claims. That the drug used to kill monkeys in gazelles for food but now they say they often dont have enough to eat. Today there again preparing a meal from crushed because of the leaves. No word that this woman is
upset about the situation she says people cant hunt and there are no jobs. There arent any schools for the children and their prospects for the future are blue. She says the Timber Companies should leave the area. The bulk of people say if or wont let them earn a living we asked the company about this and it denied the accusations. The f. S. E. Continues to defend the logging practices of the 2 largest Timber Companies now operating in congo if the interpol co subsidiary and c. I. B. I have been through or if she had been through control ive seen the way that interactions peoples are given separate School Training because theyre not going to be part of the ordinary schools by the other into the other groups of the population so ive seen all of these things and i certainly know that Indigenous Peoples are being respected and that they are given access to
more interesting latinas that they never ever had before. This is part of the land covered by c. R. B. As permit near pokhara in northern congo. There do seem to be modern facilities here but these are mainly benefiting c. R. B. Employees and less so the bulk of people who live in the huge Forest Concession when this buck a woman carries her child as she walks through the streets asking for money as others in her situation she seems in the period the bucha have lived in harmony with nature for several 1000 years and now their lives have been disrupted by Timber Companies that have been approved by the f. S. E. And the forests to see what they might become we travel to brazil where large tracts of ancient forest have been replaced by Eucalyptus Plantations. These students are studying whether such monoculture is meet the criteria for sustainable Forest Management. There professor Clamens Less Gypsy Teaches Political Ecology at
the university of minas sure ice. This plantation was one of the 1st Monocultures in brazil to receive the f. S. E. Seal of approval. He says that Eucalyptus Crops are popular because theyre inexpensive to maintain and can be harvested in just 10 years. But the monoculture crops also dry out the soil and dont provide a habitat for wildlife. So how did this plantation qualify for f. S. E. Approval. Because one. This sort of land use was once classified as nonsustainable by environmentalist we even said its extremely harmful pretty much the only thing worse than this type of monoculture would be to pave over the whole land. We asked Matthew Hansen to describe the spread of monocultures in brazil. So we zoom in to the area around you and up all this in the coast of this eco system thats called the Boche Atlantica you can see dramatic expansion when we see these blues these are new plantations and we see the pinks those are all the plantations that were cleared and regroup and f. S. E. Certified monocultures i mean its a contradiction in terms right if it literally was founded to combat mold it could monocultures now monocultures are certified this is this is. Is a logical fallacy doesnt make sense. So but that i dont agree with that i do agree that you got you have to have your. Your poll paper timber land use is somewhere because we all use these products and and. I dont think its a hard argument to make that they that this at this time in our history they shouldnt be replacing natural force. This is Atlantic Forest on the east coast of
brazil the level of biodiversity here used to be even higher than that of the Amazon Region today more than 90 percent of the atlantic rain forest has been destroyed. Only the precious hillsides remain largely untouched. Just a small proportion of this rain forest is actually under protection and even here Illegal Logging goes on. The Pulp Mill Varicella was convicted of illegal deforestation in 2008 to date it has f s c certification. But in the village of parodies a local residents have been arguing with varicella about its land use policy. The land used to belong to the Catholic Church which then gave it to the people. But then there are cells started replacing the villagers being crops with Eucalyptus Plants. Here you can see the new crops growing right behind the
residents houses. The Eucalyptus Plants suck up a lot of water leaving little for local peoples crops. There are still has made a lot of these people angry they gather to tell us of their experience. This man shows us some a very cells Promotional Materials which claim that the company pays close attention to the rights of the rural population. But that doesnt appear to be the case here. Yet more for local rip off a lot of the people of parodies are saying that very cell has driven them off their land. And their frustration is apparent i think it is that elephant was never told a movie dollar here to some residents claim that the local police even showed up and force them to leave their homes. I mean i think you know where they came over at about 8 in the evening the police have close ties to die so they didnt have
a court order to picture notice my wife and our one year old child were asleep at the time. I you know i think you should go to the police or crow till they used machetes to hack our home to pieces the children werent even allowed to eat 1st we were just talk to get out we were made to flee as if we were criminals. You own the group has now gone to court to try to get their land back until theres a Conviction Varicella will keep its f. S. E. Seal land rights in brazil is a very very complicated issue theres a court case ongoing as long as the court has shown going and various other sort of legally holding the land theres no problem with their certificate obviously once the court case has been decided and it depending on what the outcome will be then of course we expect rowsell to follow the outcome of the court. Professor the ships q. Struggles with this decision by the f a c. He says this case says varicella
occupying local farmers land in parody so. Says i its just incredible that the people here have to fight for land and food against a company that makes toilet paper for europe or. The us its i just cant get my head around that no matter how big picture i think this makes me really sad. Perhaps parities 0 is an exception we drive through the large plantation toward the coast where another village has been affected by various cells land use policy. Professor leisure scheme has heard there is a dispute in that indigenous reserve to. As foreigners we have written permission to enter the reserve. When we arrive the residents are headed for a meeting to talk about varicella. We wait outside until the meeting has finished. And the tribal leaders then greet us they say their cell has taken their land and is now using it to grow Eucalyptus Plants. Bush as he tries to find out what sort of agreement the villagers worked out with farah sell lord according to f s c Guidelines Companies have to negotiate with local residents before they take action. No sabia no did that happen here. You know you know few days you will and there was a hearing but one of the chiefs got up and said that the cell was doing everything right. Hes from an area with tourism and the company paid him to say that. Thats a serious accusation and we wanted to talk to varicella about it. The companys
certification experts 1st promised us an interview but then cancelled it. Here varicella is refusing to grant our additional request for a meeting. According to the f. E. C. Reports this dispute has been settled but indigenous groups say they feel very cell has stolen their land. As its you through says they feel that the Eucalyptus Plantation is wiping them out it was difficult for me to hear them say that. One of the tribal leaders said that the company is ruining the local environment and wiping them out. To strip shows commercial. Eucalyptus crops have almost completely replaced the rain forest in this region. This has changed the face of the landscape. Paper products made from trees that were cut down here well have the f. N. C. Seal for sustainable Forest Management. And verizon has created jobs here. You have to calculate how many jobs have been created protector and then weigh that against the number of people whove been deprived of their livelihood and in this case the numbers are way out of balance in crime. If we create about 2000 jobs over hundreds of thousands of hectares and at the same time 50000 families lose their farmland and thats just not right and for you to leave school and blog about station 5 their incentive for a company that has been checked every single year since the cops are different in 2008 we have had several investigations into the claims that were that came from difference they called us and the certificated as far as we can see is still completely about it and theres a lot of good things to say about russia. So the f. S. E. Is satisfied but what about the complaints from the villagers. Have been involved in a number of the formal complaints against questionable certificate some of the f. A c. System none of those have succeeded in fact im not aware that any single complaint through the f. S. B. System has ever worked. This drone has just taken off at a large Primeval Forest on the white sea in european russia. Greenpeace employees villain the butt cheek and Thomas Henningsen want to shoot some video of clear cut logging in the Devinsky Forest the last remaining section of Intact Forest Landscape here then the forest is home to Plants And Animals facing the threat of extinction. Were. This forest is an ecological Treasure Trove with a wide variety of sensitive species. In this sub Arctic Climate the trees grow very slowly. Thats why the trunks are so thin. There are many rare masses lichens in insects in this ancient native forest. But
here too a lot of trees have been cut down by companies that have the f. S. E. Seal of approval. Of the up a c. Was a good idea at 1st youre in russia but now its causing a lot of damage of temper companies are hiding behind the epis the c. E. O. Because there are no ecologically Sustainable Operations here and companies that know that are a log in even more including in the Primer Will Forest with the sea seal teams even if. The Timber Companies are allowed to clear up to 35. 00 hectares in one go. Who do you feel. Such that you have a clear cut. 10 years after you if you ever see how it actually grows back ill get actually have forest again this area is not bad how this area actually maybe not with exactly the same values but actually grows back into forest that is managed
and valuable for people and for nature. Of the cardstock that area was clear cut just 5 or 6 years ago and its going to take centuries before it looks like a real forest again this is youve got to go by. F. S. E. Certified areas in russia taken together are larger than denmark. The trees are also being cut down to supply western consumers. The plight of. These spruce logs look there but the rings tell us that there are 60 to 70 years old. Theyre too small to be used for Wood Products so they turn these logs into poultry for paper or peter goelz or most of it is used to make disposable products like toilet paper or tissues or packaging. Food for the population of the forest that one studio is being turned into Paper Products and then tossed away poppier into treasure for
cost and from good professional. The story. One simple action can have a profound impact look for products with the f. S. E. Logo and help protect the health of our forests for all forever. Our f. S. E. Certified forests really in good shape this team of scientists is trying to find out. These the Research Group is led by german biologist and conservationist p. R. If you wish. Right on. The scientists have determined that the environmental damage is not confined to the loss of trees. Heavy logging equipment is also compacting the soil here. That means that water can no longer drain away making it very
difficult for new trees to grow. This is the 1st Scientific Study to assess the impact of f. S. E. Certified logging since the organization was founded in 1993. Thats the researchers start by measuring trees in a noncertified area they also determine the age of the trees if a forest has a lot of old trees its considered healthy. The team also measures the temperature on extremely hot or cold days a healthy forest will moderate the temperature beneath its tree canopy a damaged forest cannot this data will then be compared with the results from f. S. E. Certified areas to determine how much the Organization Helps forests. The f. S. E. Says its waiting for the results. Were very interested in the results of the Study Professor and we have invited him to come here and present that through us
because we would like to learn as we always want to learn from from british. This is the university of our school where professor a. B. C. Is presenting the preliminary results of his teams research. The study was commissioned by the w w f a Founding Member of the f. S. E. It says that f. S. E. Guidelines dont have much impact on how the forest is used. But this is the change the station. Or the forest use to have these just because of the last. Few the presentation unsettles the Timber Industry representatives present. After it gave his talk one of the Logging Companies withdrew its permission for us to film on their land. Some managers fear the study could damage the russian Timber Industry we asked Matthew Hansen for his opinion. For if we go over to the ark i guess region you can see very
clearly the clear cuts and we have to see the landscape. The idea that. Sustainable logging is represented through large scale clear cuts is difficult to understand and its that perversion that really bothers me both as a citizen and as a scientist where. If there is a program to do sustainable logging but in fact the facts of the ground say its actually in opposition to sustainability. Its its has worse affects than being forthright to begin with so if youre fully transparent people know what theyre buying and they sign up for that but if youre lying to misleading them and they think that theyre doing this is stable thing with your product and in fact theyre not this is of course
a worse worst case i think its true that the consuming public has been betrayed by the f a c. And b. Weve been led to believe that these labels enable us to purchase these Timber Products with a clear conscience but actually we now know that these products can contain wood from sustainable sources from tropical rain forest from Indigenous Peoples lands even from forest you operations that are completely illegal. When the f. M. C. Was created in 1903 the conservationists goal was to stop clear cutting and save the Primeval Forest that gold is not being reached. Which is why in march 28th seen greenpeace announced it would not renew its membership in the f. S. E. Because it also missed sea we left because the f. F. C. Unfortunately does not ensure that Primeval Forest are protected from logging that our convoys are good with the food is just. Too. Just for us if youre proposing a boycott against any chamber from the against any timber from the congo basin i think youre at the same time telling these countries that their forests should have no value or that they should have any benefit from the forest i think thats completely the wrong way. So the plantations will continue to expand and over the past 25 years the f. C. C. Has failed to stop Timber Companies from destroying large tracts of forest land around the world. The impact of all that logging has been dramatic. I think that were now probably at the stage where we have to revert back to that idea the regulation by governments is what we need of it on fuel we consume far too many disposable paper and Wood Products we have to reduce recycle and reuse. It seems we need legislation to save the Primeval Forests they cannot be protected with a simple seal. Plastic waste is it harmful to humans. More and more Micro Particles in the ocean are entering our food chain. To the folks not only is it hurting the environment but is it also bad for our health. German scientists warn alarmism in that. Tomorrow today in 30 minutes on d w. Meet the artist today we speak to
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