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among them people like tanya and her children. go to name and i see what's happening now is unbearable. horror and haines. i don't know. the boy, i'm speechless. i mean, you are, tim and alexi have also been trying to settle here since the war broke out back in moscow, they faced the threat of being arrested. but russians are not necessarily welcome in georgia posters on the streets boast special offers for the new arrivals, but the links present them with images of the war accompanied by captions. ego or corrupt have has been living in tbilisi for 10 years now. he's happy to help his compatriots glue in that edition. well, tens of thousands of russians have already arrived. if people here are afraid that ot could invade to rescue them, that's the way it always goes. it cannot of safer. hello miss. it's noon in tbilisi. hundreds of people have gathered outside the orthodox cash fatty church to honor a georgian killed while fighting as a volunteer in the ukraine war. igor corruptive is among the mourners. back home, he worked as a media producer, but the restrictions on press freedom in russia heavily impeded his work. there are many georgians risking their lives in ukraine to stop russia's war of aggression. the fallen soldier, w. rattie. annie was a friend of e gore's. you guys some fox though, must have some of my closest friends are now actually fighting my own countrymen who are part of this aggressive invasion of ukraine. i thought a brief recycling of credit, and that makes the tragedy 10 times worse. now this is new to people like this deserve respect a, their families deserve all the support they can get a but from the people as well as from the georgia government of a and i hope they get it when i read just over the war against ukraine, is also a war against georgia, i now got a new showed up at the y and i go to the georgia has experienced war itself with russia in recent memory. following that invasion in august 2008. the russian military did not fully withdraw. and the regions of south ho, sacha and ab kasha are still occupied. there is widespread fear that moscow could occupy the whole of georgia. i wonder what would happen since moving to georgia. e . gore has led the caucuses division of the free russia foundation, and independent organisation funded by donations. the group promotes democratic development in russia and supports opposition to putin. these flowers are in remembrance to exxon about lena. the independent russian journalist was killed during shelling by russian forces while reporting from cave in his room will be hooton's. regime is not only killing ukrainians. they're also killing russians in ukraine, that thou, as many of them are in cave and other ukrainian cities. but that's the whole market . they're trying to help better because they now see the country as their home. that will, if i am gone, the war has also made life more dangerous. for many russians in russia, around 40000 of them fled to georgia in the 1st weeks of the war. their 1st port of call is often the free russia foundation. eager, corrupt evans, his staff, helped the new travels to find their feet in georgia. the 1st thing igor has to explain to his compatriots is why they're not always welcomed with open arms in georgia. in order to ship will go through it by tens of thousands of russians have already arrived with them. with some people here are afraid that potent could invade to rescue them. now that was said, that is the way it always goes. that's why we often here we go back to russia and take on putin. why have you come to georgia to our tampa to cops? freedom was at stake in russia. he was a member of an opposition party and active in the anti war movement. and one day, a heavily armed special police unit was standing at his door. but he said b y and the, the police were round for days after i left the country, they even asked my relatives about my whereabouts think it was closer to you. yeah . ah, for my own sources informed me that the authorities were preparing criminal charges against me. della gallow. now, he nor your prost cornerstone. i realized it would be more effective to leave and you can continue my work here. you can go to prison, go co video critique below living im of stems from illinois, marcia christiane, and av, as a photojournalist. he was interrogated by the f. s. b security service, who tried to blackmail him into becoming an informant. he fled to georgia 6 months ago after the war broke out, his girlfriend, lisa followed him. he is emily's. i was afraid i would never see vesee again. we did wish of. i saw her mother didn't want the family to be separated. so she came to georgia to with lease as younger siblings. it's me if the right a thing to me was that we are altogether him. and the been, you mentioned to him. you haven't understand that you can be arrested at any time in russia. the more the more have read that yet hung you boy. why ma'am? ah, the fact that lisa is in a relationship with me is reason enough. ease of moya boss. me in the hoarded, sir, because i thought on that chance somewhere he, he say in moscow, tanya worked as a nutritionist. she separated from her husband a while ago. he supports the children with his income and in the young to attend school. here yasha and the osha would have to speak georgian. so tanya is homeschooling them at the kitchen table. this song lends itself to spelling practice on that if they study and it's about piece of yeah. and that well if and material things don't matter that you did that with me. love a family thing that matters. so business i, even though i was 90, was leaving russia and giving up their old life has been a sacrifice for each family member their 1st days and georgia. we're particularly hard the yeah heard they said that was we leonard and the crack of dawn. the 1st place we stadium was unbearable, it was minus 6 outside, but there was no heating in the building and the toilet was on the street. this rented apartment is nice and warm. everything works and the children have their own room. the did was very low. you 17 year old marina helps to cook some traditional bush, a taste of home that will do them all good. for the last that way there's marina had to leave her friends behind. graham, it's hard for every one. the children are aware that we've lost some thing, both of them of stuff that happened at adams. ah, tanya shares the 5 room apartment with olga barra bar nova and her 2 children, money is tight. i didn't, i didn't. what marina has made a start with the bush mat, like tanya and her children. olga also comes from moscow. she was a successful business woman. they are producing high tech wheelchairs. after she took part, an anti war protests, the authorities put pressure on her and her family. she gave everything up, but she doesn't want to stay in georgia unless you see the plaintiff. but there's a notice up here in the corridor saying that 20 percent of georgia is occupied and russians are therefore not welcome here. thoughts. but i'm not ashamed of being russian. i didn't vote for this president and his government. i'm not responsible for their actions. with the bush is ready in time for lunch, tanya can imagine living for a long time in georgia with her children. ideally, she'd work as a nutritionist for children and families. but as long as it me, i can help mother say a teen, which would also give me a big list if so easy, it might not work out as we not really welcome as ration saith of masters, is amazing event that he's looked at. we need to be prepared for that. so kind of like the family. ah, tanya has baked a cake for her eldest daughter, lisa lives with her boyfriend, vasa, the photo journalist on the opposite side of the city. georgia is a popular refuge for russians as they can enter the country without a visa, a policy that georgia hoped would attract russian tourists. now, many political refugees are coming instead are sam for to cobb and alexi villasenor are among them. they're both opposed to the war and are members of the opposition from moscow. both were threatened with prison there and fled to the beliefs he at very short notice. but these posters all over the city are a rude awakening. in english and russian, they promise discounts for concerts in russian. but instead the q r codes take you to this war footage from ukraine with the message. it's not just putin's fault. never before facilitates a kind of trap that the q r code conceals what's actually behind it. it says it's about a music platform. what of over them are in russian. many music platforms are no longer available, but it's a kind of bait mancha at the video. and all this video is aimed at old russians. ah, of course. yeah. i can't agree with everything in its surgical america. yeah. yeah . but i certainly don't deny responsibility for what's happening like a quite out via sources, but we are all responsible. lots of c o r t m has very limited savings and is glad that his friends were able to help him find a cheap apartment. the rents for russians are often overpriced. dish lascola, this is my room, but those are not my things. sure. i could have it. here is the bed. oh is that the apartment is in a poor state. the owners have lived abroad for many years. there's no shower, no hot water, and no heating. some of the window panes are missing and it's cold. art him can't afford even minor repairs. he arrived here from russia with no more than a tooth brush and a mobile phone and his pocket in the face. do you have pots and pans? ah, yes, look authentic a virtue, coffee pots. and you can cook for many, and the bigger one is me voted. have you already tried it? die yes. the minute you do the, that's all russians need to survive. the pair don't want to just sit around while an exile they plan to set up a youtube channel for opposition, members and other people who have stayed in russia. their 1st video recording is scheduled for the weekend with 2 guests went over that he provided they're still alive and not in jail by then in about speaking of the homework writing privilege show by the people will be interviewing for this project . and the kinds of people who have already been expressing their opinion about putin regime for decades. i'll give it up uh, because community mythos feldwood r t m has discovered a bookshop where he can by literature band and russia. in one book, he surprised to find a chapter about his grandmother. ana outlook was an artist who fought for women's rights and against the supremacy of the russian orthodox church. persecuted by the putin regime. she emigrated to germany in 2007. ah yes, the girl, after a few months exile in berlin, she went out one day and disappeared over allah. 2 weeks later, her body was found in the rivers gray affair. oh, the story was in the german media, excuse me beside it. it still isn't clear whether it was suicide or murder, mystery, little her grandson is now fighting. the putin regime to the young journalist has been arrested several times. he, too, has opted for exile. yet it is, i'm as old as the putin regime. i feel free are here than in russia. what i'm doing is considered treason there. so i, i have with our senior deal with the, with the bus linear. i tried to stay in russia for as long as possible. went to speak up, there was cousin say mila, but it would have been no use to anyone. if i'd stayed and ended up in prison, i think you back if you wanna go in exile, i can continue my campaigning. if you look i of, when we got up civil rights, were you missed the friends had off art him had something planned later in the day . ego corruptive is on the road on a special mission. he and some colleagues from the free russia foundation are on their way to some villages bordering the russian occupied region of south o. sacha. just a 90 minute drive from tbilisi. the exiled russians regularly traveled there to offer their support to the villagers, many of whom faced severe hardship. bethel to the russians who worked with us had befriended the villagers, but they visit them and bring them something nice, a gift or some food. what the baby, steve had, osha the people they are live in really tough conditions with almost done wish little for the food you know. last year the photo journalist is also on the bus. he's been working for the free russia foundation since he arrived in georgia. and reports on the areas affected by russian military presence like e gore before them, most of the people on the bus have chosen georgia as their new home. oh, oh. oh. the song is called sa, continental, the name of the country in georgian age of the, in the smartest while on the road. you look around and you know, there are russian tanks not far from here. it makes me feel very, the motion almost in logan, which of these got the somehow you have to let it out. almost annoyed vanessa. this is where russian troops our troops have illegally occupied ga territory. at this moment, i feel more like a georgian when they arrive in the village of soccer and blow directly on the border to russian controlled south voceti. the russian activists have brought along bags full of shopping. for months they've been giving this family their special attention and regularly donate money to them. the house is an urgent need of renovation room. how are you doing today? oh, i'm okay. thanks. and you dish rooms, are they installing a shower here? yes sir, this is my bag for you. lots of chocolate. with that. thank you. i'll click on that. is the renovation going well? the children to really please stay on happy tea cup so too he is 37. she's been a widow for years and is unemployed vasquez documenting everything for a photo essay. the georgia authorities have practically abandoned areas close to the russian occupation line. back in russia, igor tells us people have no idea about the conditions in this region. what not much of sinners, like we're just a few meters away from the occupation lines of the exiled russians who have lived in georgia a while know something about the situation. but those who have just arrived have no idea about the russian occupation of georgia. they readily evade. now it says time we met him. we noticed that a glorious difference. we only found out later that he was russian. she speaks georgie in very well. faith. i can't tell that he's russian. conduct a stone, nodded back in tbilisi. hidden in a back yard and the old town is the store selling books band in russia. exiled russians run the store and collect donations for the families of ukrainian war victims. they also take sides with those subject to political persecution and russia. part him as supervising the campaign way for william vigil bishop, but as a petroleum who writes letters to political prisoners and russia and in bella roost . it's mostly political refugees from russia who come here or do they come and write letters to people. they don't know personally empty wishy we try to read to all of them each more. they are the ones who represent the true russia compose the people who would never have allowed this war to happen much. yeah. i'd like to kid because 3 of you looseness, they issued a shake of butts. i'm not allowed to say had the letters reached them. love of good . ah, the team have written around 50 letters to day, which will soon be embarking on their mysterious journey to russia. the bookshop is open until midnight and the entrance is marked by flags. the ukrainian one and the flag of russians opposed to putin's war. it's white, blue and white, the russian flag without red, the color of blood. ah, tanya is on her way to visit her eldest order lisa and her boyfriend, vasa, she's baked them a cake. the young couple have found a small one room apartment in the old town of tbilisi. lisa is enrolled at a prestigious moscow art college. it's not yet clear whether she can complete her studies from georgia. but anything is better than being separated from bosnia italy, village glow. oh yeah. i was very unwell. i consulted a psychologist and took all kinds of pills. the beloved kit of that w a prescribed anti depressants, but i didn't take them. i pretty strong. initially he beat the doors, which i decided to drink alcohol, and stella, you of she have a little poke, would again to give this and that award after vascular left, i had just didn't get out of bed, buckle. yes, julio, love she, any more law states grow or tim tanya does not regret her decision to leave moscow with the whole family and toe for her. it was out of the question to leave her 20 year old daughter to fend for herself. and she feels that lisa is finally getting better now that she's back with boss ya. i think i said, how was your trip fast? yeah. one of the families living there are really poor and now it's even more difficult for them because the georgia government is under a lot of pressure and they wish to learn to last day. what. how did you feel boylen you, brianna? i felt pain yet, and unease. yes, absolutely. and that comes from the russians being the ones who occupied the area here, where she fancier took some amazing photos level courses. putin has done a lot of damage in the post soviet regions. little margaret, this is eager dawn. this is the family he's helping. the house is right on the border to the occupied area of come to these hills are under the control of russian troops. so yeah, it's the weekend and tbilisi r t m and alexi are about to make their 1st video reporting. and he gore's free russia foundation studio a camera man as available along with the equipment alexi and our team need for their project as a youtube channel in support of the anti war movement in russia. their 1st guest is lou markovich schlossberg, an opposition politician who does not want to leave his country lift markovich, i was please tell us how you're feeling schuessler. are you in russia right now to just he squeezed through it in my dentist and yet it looked like exactly it lies. are an obligatory part of the propaganda here. it's very difficult to live with because that turning people crazy, the fit of the blue, you see people who are quite known yesterday i went on to day. they want to see blood with just one day before the video was posted online, schlossberg and his wife were arrested for allegedly defaming the russian army. next up is eager. corruptive. he too, is trying to send a wake up call to the population of his home country with his internet program border zone. so i'm at the throne of which patricia, this video is dedicated to the citizens of russia fee. according to the polls with 83 per cent of russian support, the policies of vladimir putin at clicking on that might look on the internet and see who he is describing as nationalists, sorting people to look for a women and children who have fled ukraine for their lives later in the day, this bar terrace is a popular gathering point for exiled russians in tbilisi, alexi and r t a meet up with their georgian friend, ki orgy. with me, i was supposed to word that book, i a boon when it was in the bookshop today. someone called and told me, i have to leave the apartment and pay for one month. so why nanning of this new little they didn't explain why, but they wanted me to move out. so the young men trust each other now, but the way the 2 russians and the george and met is another story going okay through through germany, the for good. well, i came into the store on there were a few russian guys that told him that they were fooling around and being loud. 0, one of them said, i feel i come on vacation here with home for don't like that. i was annoyed that someone could say such a thing in was sign it, especially when it's their country's fault on the show show to go to your d then posted a video on social media brushes just arrived in georgia. i take a look at this means that we're not your friends and it means that you're not welcome in our country. so you may say that you're not legitimate fortune and you don't want the word, but of course nobody's going to believing that. no. why? because you're saying it know when you're losing the war other than i told you, oh my gosh, a russian responded to the post and said, well, we still, we know that we russians a bad and a we started a war. so i feel bad hold on a better issue that was at 1st i thought he was only saying it because he was scanned it on the phone with a medical delivery. my b won't show up, but then i checked his profile and found a video of him crying saying why had to leave his family behind. i meant to get to them if we think then i suggested to him on his friends thoughts, yeoman, alexi, that we go for a walk or do something together. i want it to show the around to blessing monk on the men have been friends ever since to night. they arrange to meet the next day for an anti war protest organized by ego or corruptive. and his people the following afternoon, outside the ukrainian embassy. people have now heard the terrible news from ukraine about the boot massacre. e gore has canceled the march he'd planned. instead, candles are lit, and flowers laid at the fence of the embassy. you normally wouldn't fecky, but there must never be politicians like this again and again. oh good robin. nothing matters. if we cannot speak the truth, the applause, russia has a fascist regime than one that has to be overthrown. san diego, california stoughton. we cannot live a normal life until that happens. no more than white. good orchard, i don't know if or when that will have been that the understood i'm, i'm now we're abroad, but at some point i know we have to go back and bring down the regime. you gotta get your modem. otherwise this war will never end. the right, and we'll be standing here crying. i'm, i'm with this with mcgee pockets, the, it's not just of a do it around $400.00 russians have gathered at the impromptu vigil including our tim and alexi, and tanya with her children. you know what's important, i'm your teachers agonizing. i see what's happening now is unbearable. horizons pain. i but i didn't now was a boy, i'm speechless. i met with mr. moore's which was good. i'm shot at it and of course i want nothing to do with them. i'm so sorry. it's a disgrace. it's awful, russell that so it goes against a human nature. the solution. ansible mon well it is in human wasn't as i think enough said the merchant reginald, you can call this genocide efficiency. but anyway, what, i'm sorry that my countrymen are involved, the ability to use your risk of it, even if they're new, george and friend g yorkie has not turned up as planned. at the very least, the 2 young men know they are not alone here. ah ah ah ah, ah, eco india. how can a country's economy grow in harmony with its people and the environment when there are doers who look at the bigger picture? india, a country that faces many challenges and whose people are striving to create a sustainable future. clever projects from europe and india eco india in 30 minutes on the t w. o. oh this is dw news lie from bur lead sri lanka declares a state of emergency. the announcement coming as protestors storm the office of the prime minister and the acting president. president gotcha, by of out of pocket had fled the country hours earlier before he was due to resign over an economic crisis. also coming up ukraine's forces strike back in southern.

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