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duramax channel. going to buy the story. with exclusive. and of course see concerning our claims culture to europe. to be full curious minds. do it yourself networkers. subscribe don't miss out. yet i just got a should feel a read on television covering the national primary election of israel's conservative liquid. about one hundred twenty party members on choosing candidates for the list that liquid will run in the country's parliamentary election on april ninth. the party. prime minister benjamin netanyahu is likud top candidates and he also has
a good chance of winning the parliamentary election. but i'm inspired music is something to give him but in a time young he was facing tough competition. also dealing with several corruption investigations highest this election and the coalition negotiations afterwards promised to be dramatic extreme of wanting to be out for the next tough how well be talking with several guests about the election and what it means to them and i was just let him historians motion or similar muslim i'm on the security expert. imagine all the dots have a money family and our of his racing mariam to kind of. israel's fragmented society as reflected in the large number of political parties in the knesset or national parliament prime minister netanyahu is likud party has been in power for years and now holds thirty out of one hundred twenty seats. the current
government coalition is led by likud it includes several parties whose primary goal is to preserve their religious and social traditions another member of the coalition is the jewish home party which favors israeli settlements in the palestinian territories the party leaders include the current education minister naftali bennett. there are four position parties that represent israeli arabs who make up about twenty percent of the population taken together these four parties are one of the largest groups in the opposition. to support for the opposition labor party has collapsed in recent years they lost the twenty fifteen election to likud despite joining a short lived coalition with a party led by former foreign minister tzipi livni. a centrist party headed by former finance minister pete has now joined forces with the israel
resilience party which is led by benny gantz the former chief of staff of the israeli armed forces against is trying to bridge the political gap between left and right and could pose a serious challenge to netanyahu senior military officers are widely respected in israel some have even become prime minister as. a number of smaller parties have teamed up to try to get around the election threshold law which requires them to win at least a three point two five percent share of the vote to qualify for seats in parliament . some of these parties could end up in the next government coalition. the same as hard as we've seen the campaign leading up to the april ninth election has been a dramatic one to find out more about the current political mood in israel i'm joined by professor moshe zimmerman. he's well. known in germany he's been
a visiting professor at several german universities and his academic research work has won him several german awards. in two thousand and five professor silliman was appointed to a government commission that investigated the role of the german foreign office in the holocaust. professor silliman the political landscape in israel has changed substantially in the past several years why did that happen and what will it mean for the election. political ideologies are no longer relevant in israel. it all boils down to the battle between netanyahu and his opponents. voters are either on one side or the other. you either support the prime minister or you don't. and those factors are shaping the political environment right now. you would like israel
to the right. in the class true for a majority of israelis. of course there are political parties on the left and in the center but the left is rather weak in israel right now. they usually win only five or ten percent of the vote. the centrist parties are actually center right. so in the final analysis it all comes down to how much netanyahu and the parties that support him will win by. well i think you have israelis moved to the right. side. in many countries today right wing nationalist or semi fascist parties on the rise. that's the case in israel as well. there's a sort of siege mentality here israel is defending itself against the palestinians and iran. and if that's the way you think that's the way you'll vote a lot of people aren't thinking about peace. they say israel
campaign billboards benyamin netanyahu with donald trump the president has expressed support for the prime minister's reelection in december twenty seven teen the u.s. announced that it would move its embassy in israel from tel aviv to jerusalem. it was a controversial decision. and it prompted fineman demonstrations in the palestinian terror trains the. palestinians want to make east jerusalem the capital of a future state. but at this point netanyahu appears to have abandoned his commitment to a two state solution. and he supports new settlements in the israeli occupied west bank. this is apparently a concession to the nationalist and ultra-orthodox parties that netanyahu will need
to build a coalition government. and israeli arab m.p.'s are upset about the new nation state law which they say discriminates against them. many israelis are deeply concerned about security right now and netanyahu has promised to address their concerns he has even taken on the additional post of defense minister and has promised to end hunger cybersecurity. the prime minister says that iran poses the greatest threat to peace in the middle east and president trump agrees with him. if he is reigning military has recently launched a number of ass strikes against iranian forces and their allies deployed in syria. and tensions are still running high in the gaza strip there have been frequent
clashes in the last few months between palestinians and israeli troops along the border fence. still netanyahu can take credit for a growing economy under one employment but critics say that the gap between rich and poor in israel continues to grow. my nerves that is why you hear it by a lake square in central tel aviv to me to my next guest. is an author. political scientist and spokesman for the israeli intelligence ministry on a show you wouldn't he was born in germany and raised in berlin his parents are jewish immigrants from iran he studied political science at university and emigrated to israel in two thousand and one. quarter. israelis are concerned about national security and prime minister netanyahu has identified iran is a major threat and clashes continue in gaza how would you assess the current
situation. it's extremely complicated israel is stronger than ever and we have discovered and destroyed a number of hezbollah tunnels along the border with lebanon. the situation in gaza remains tense. but we've managed to push back the iranians in syria. says i'm not so it's the one hand israel continues to provide a deterrent force in the region and that helps us to keep these threats under control to explode but at the same time iran and its hizbollah allies continue to cause trouble. especially in syria. so there's a very real possibility that we could be drawn into a multi front conflict the primary threat right now comes from the codes force. unit of iran's revolutionary guards and report directly to iran's supreme leader.
so we could be placed in a situation where israel a small country is attacked from lebanon syria gaza and possibly elsewhere. it was just this effect the elections the hope to be a major factor in what the politicians have to address the security concerns is the team question and a lot of the talk ended it does have held senior posts in the military. benny gantz certainly has and so has netanyahu. the prime minister is friends with some of the world's most powerful leaders. donald trump and bolton are all in brazil. so a lot of israelis believe that netanyahu is the best person to lead israel right now so far as. the right wing candidates who are running in this election position themselves by saying they are even tougher than he is on security and domestic
policy. will work. but it's netanyahu is also facing three different corruption investigations in the first the prime minister and his wife are accused of accepting expensive gifts in return for political favors as. in the second investigators say that netanyahu tried to influence the publisher of a newspaper that runs stories critical of the government. the prime minister is said to have promised to support legislation that would cripple the circulation of israel's most popular newspaper. in the third case netanyahu is accused of backing regulations that would have benefited a major telecom corporation a company executive was recently detained in the investigation police say netanyahu wanted the company's news website to provide more favorable coverage of his
government. netanyahu has categorically denied any wrongdoing and says that even if he is indicted on these charges he will not resign. in january the prime minister went on national t.v. to criticize the investigation which he called a witch hunt carried out by the media police and prosecutors. attorney general having. a full minute on young. cabinet secretary and military prosecutor has recommended that charges be filed but has not yet actually done so. the officer from a. guy at work told me that people just aren't worried about corruption anymore. it's not new for politicians to take bribes. it happens all the time. we had a famous politicians who took bribes of five hundred thousand euros. yes that's sad
. that the accusations against netanyahu aren't all that serious and we've known about them for some time people have made up their minds are there they say that's terrible like we do or they say the politicians are always taking bribes. with armed to the city of run and not far from tel aviv to meet with a modern orthodox family jenny until you have a man and the three children levi arians rosa turney how many have a man is active in the israeli liberal party and is using social media to try to get more young people interested in politics. a lawyer to. save the founder and c.e.o. of an organization that brings together young entrepreneurs from germany and israel yeah. and yeah and you know half a man is the son of sabella i have a man and the german singer songwriter both be
a man so he was born in east germany and moved to the west in nine hundred seventy seven have a better and converted to judaism and emigrated to israel in twenty ten he now works as an i.t. experts for an israeli company or genuinely trying to find out what you both think of the political situation right now in israel. well first of all the cost of living in israel is very high compared to europe. by the way we consider ourselves europeans and certainly most israelis. yeah but food is really expensive and there are political reasons for that. we can't trade with neighboring countries we don't believe that should go in the hype that's one of the things that makes living here expensive. the signs are going to be stones and their taxes are very high and the politicians haven't done enough to cut and what's
more the business monopolies are much too strong the state should do more to regulate them. so this election is about both domestic policy and including the high cost of living and foreign policy for the sake of this assault alkie it's got invited was the theme out. meeting on foreign policy it certainly seems a special middle east peace process is dead in the water and talks on a two state solution are on hold. but you told me that some israeli arabs work in your company and everyone gets along fine on both of those five almost never mind well netanyahu supports this new law. what's it called the nation state law that's a no you do. or both and discriminates against israeli arabs. i'm going to one of my arab colleagues told me that the law hasn't affected him at all park and his friends are still his friends and his job is still his job so he's exactly the
same guy he was before. this law has caused a lot of emotional pain. or the actual wording of the law doesn't seem so bad. but the worst thing about that law is what it doesn't say . much good what do you mean exactly. these really declaration of independence says that we are all citizens should you had. after the knesset approved the law prime minister netanyahu said that this was a defining moment in the history of the israeli state. legislation sans that the jewish people have the right to exercise national self-determination in israel and it also states that hebrew is the country's official language and downgrades arabic to me a special status and it says that the state will continue to promote jewish settlement as a national value. i'm talking about discrimination
in many. ways that. arabs and women and minorities are experiencing and it's getting more and more. when there are we are seeing the control of the right phonetic right wing's in the country and if i'm talking about the daily life i'm talking about discrimination in the right places often school students will structure many things like we have less sources most funds less. that we can take and improve our daily normal life this seemed to become. to the town of abilene a haifa to me to sing out whose voice has captured the hearts of israelis mariam to can she was the first person to sing in arabic on the israeli t.v.
some competition show a star is born. because the mariam is an arab christian and now she's devoted her vocal talents to an organization called women wage peace a crew that brings together people of all religions and ethnic backgrounds to create a mutually binding political agreement to end the israeli palestinian conflict. on campus. the organization was founded shortly after the end of the gaza war in twenty fourteen. it's also supports a un resolution that reaffirms the role of women in the prevention and resolution of conflicts. only this year the group organized a peace festival in the port city of jaffa women wayne peace has twenty four thousand registered members and tens of thousands of followers on facebook the festival features performances by mariam to cannes and the israeli canadian singer
el deck about how. they perform around the world and use their music to inspire positive change and to support nonviolent efforts to resolve conflicts. that'll. get else best known song is prayer of the mother as about the women's peace movement. i wrote this song because i felt the heart of the mothers who put together the movement of women which base i met with them and then i felt their yearning and i wrote this. thing in hebrew and in arabic about mothers who hang out the noon train in the shadow of an israeli security wall and about
a mother who sends her child off to school as war rages nearby. the song ends with a call for peace. it's. everyone still waiting for the middle east peace plan said president trump promised no details have been released yet. what are the prospects for this peace proposal to. improve i'm not going to get my hopes up. he will certainly side with netanyahu. there may be some proposals in the plan that the right wing parties will complain about. implementing certainly won't be implemented before the israeli elections or after the elections for that matter. so
i. describe it as a lot of hot air and it probably won't be very practical. poxy. well most of them truly understand it by the time it's done and this hasn't held parliamentary elections for more than a decade and then there's the ongoing palace struggle between hamas in gaza and fatah in the west bank. so israel may be right in saying that even if a peace plan were proposed they'd have no one to negotiate with. so i didn't plan this way a lot of here because all israel has made sure that there's no one to negotiate with. the divisions between fatah and hamas were caused to a certain extent by israeli policy. and the government wants those divisions to continue. all. of the life that will give them the opportunity to say there's no one on the palestinian side they can talk to. this kind of.
moment. so until hamas and fatah are able to resolve their differences and present something that resembles a united front all israel won't be able to negotiate with them. and also harm can be. calling their. in their moment at the same time even if the two sides settle their dispute as long as hamas continues to reject israel's right to exist israel won't negotiate with them. lloyd to go by it so either way israel can say that it can't talk to the palestinians of the wall and that will be just fine with netanyahu and put it in terms of. people who think one of the you know. this is the out run t.v. hospital in gaza city. the facility has been hit times by the israeli blockade of the gaza strip and also by hamas mismanagement. the conditions here are miserable for the patients punished for the medical staff like dr fayyad el masri. the room
is a river crowded and the and conditioning doesn't work. there's a deep sense of frustration. you see the air conditioned set of. we try tourists as you note it gets off. today the hospital laundry come provide fresh bed sheets this woman has stomach cancer and can't get the medicine she needs. fulfilled village we were. running out of morphine and all kinds of other painkillers for the foolish. this is the hospital's pediatric ward many of the children here suffer from leukemia but they can't be properly treated that's enormously frustrating for the parents. more than you would be as concept was approved by both of these fires the disease
would be to successfully what would do to a shortage of being supplied from any we have a. close fear in the sea of that if it's right there and they respond to something . or interfere with something. the collapse of the health care system in gaza is just one of the many unfortunate consequences. you see towards the only palestinian asked the israeli elections approach the politicians are not paying attention to the problems of palestinians in the west bank and gaza the breakdown of the peace process the political parties have turned to social media to get their message to the voters. father gallo's likud first emerged. recently launched its own t.v. channel on facebook facebook but as the political establishment turns away from traditional media there are concerns that digital sources of information could be
manipulated by crackheads. those such as food. israel's domestic intelligence agency that recently just such a warning. director. said that an identified foreign country intends to intervene in the upcoming elections. the prime minister and security officials trying to reassure the public netanyahu said that israel definitely has the technological capability to prevent such cyber attacks. russia said it would never intervene in a foreign election. got internet data can also be manipulated in other ways. a google search will turn up
different results for different uses that content may also be accompanied by advertising but there's no way to tell how the google algorithms choose which content will be shown. who provided the advertisement. experts saying that the internet must become more transparent and not just when it comes to election campaigns. the game to your election forecast. this is almost like a hollywood movie. you want to keep up with election campaign news every day to see what one candidate or another has done. it's a close race and there are actually top candidates not just two. so the main question as who will be able to put together a coalition government. a centrist or center left parties don't join forces i think that netanyahu will be
reelected. he's going to win. i don't like the poster people of historic i'm a historian so i always take the long view in situations like this go and i think about what effects this election might have on my grandchildren and that's a cause for concern if you're born being at the time i was born there were no military conflicts between jews and the palestinians and other arabs and you sleep on things on the book you spend all day long you know but in the seven decades that i've lived in israel obviously i've seen one war after another and now the peace process has collapsed. at some point something really terrible is going to happen i think the most when they've been there for three or four things are going to be more fanatic and more negative and then people can be more aware. of the desire to change. things for change so. this is what
we are doing now. the women. women makes peace many women association. from palestine from israel pretty. hard to. do we see today therefore making. another reality. bites teach them we've heard a number of different voices in this report but what unites these people is the how and then now for the state of israel.
wants. but unity cost from the top spot. and many money managers are drawn against five blocks and drops to second spot on the tape. on victory on storm and ahead maybe one spoke with two goals in stoppage time. because. i see minutes on the doubles. with him had to be done because ugly as well lions i know if i had known the boat would be that small i never would have gone on a trip but i would not have put myself and my parents in that dangerous part of the game but

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