questions in germany it's going to happen with b.m.w. mercy this is big enough to withstand all these challenges moving forward i think you know volvo kopassus and tom toss and sugar land rover business they're also you know both too small to really survive they're not generating cash flow decent enough to survive so there are a couple of brands but amongst the big ones we've now seen quite a bit of conservation john is dealing as you mentioned a board boliver bogen back in 2010 it's also clinch a big stake in the states ben's parent deila will be driving the next round of club consolidation to reckon i think it is very clear. that they're busy building a significant global industrial empire having said that you know despite the really good turnaround of the whole comp is this the the business is really very