mercy this is big enough to withstand all these challenges moving forward i think you know volvo kopassus and tonto us and sugar land rover business they're also you know both too small to really survive they're not generating cash flow decent enough to survive so there are a couple of brands but amongst the big ones we've now seen quite a bit of conservation john is deely as you mentioned the board voted for bogen back in 2010 it's also clinch a big stake a mercedes benz parent dima will be driving the next round of club consolidation to reckon i think it is very clear that they're busy building a significant global industrial empire having said that you know despite the really good turnaround of the ball consciousness the business isn't really very profitable it doesn't really generate a lot of cash which is needed to finance all the r. and d.