Transcripts For DW After Munich 20220904

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watch it now on you to the landscape. a reflection of a turbulent history. the cities, the mosaic of different people and languages. iran's mountains reveal unparalleled beauty. the scenery is magnificent, but people are warm and our position is exceptional. a special look at a special country. iran from above. start september 16th on d. w. ah ah ah, in mines in on august y o n z a policy with you was there on the 2nd floor sunday i saw the window open, the burdens opened and i see on the in front of the of the window, i saw how he was pushed with the rifle, but no back into the room. the windows closed, curtains closed, and that is really the last time i saw him alive. but at least i know you will stay to life. but alma will not ship augusta the man to the last time i saw my coach was in the parking lot at the accommodation. william people went off to their room was too late. he said, well, let us meet tomorrow morning, but that never happened. i will hobble killer. see the lawyer. i was yes. so shattered. i bought the whole experience because i never volunteered for such a thing. i've no idea what was going to happen. and i know if they do things that for the 1st t mark in the senator 2nd team in so i never would have been involved in anything like this. and this is a certain amount of speculation, but i think she obviously was recruited by ma, sad because of her resourcefulness and intelligence and her ability to act, ah, silly bemusement my coach when i was 12 years on that day and we were running the 60 meter dash ms. a hotel its our heart tissue. right. so she, she may feel a we thought he raises against me and all the other children and i beat him. and in its actor, he took me aside and told me i had a great future ahead of me. shortly he said he prepare me for the limb, heckle or matthew north, you know where i was over at boy ha, i remember the opening ceremony manual. it was quite an experience to see people from all over the world fall and all the colors and flags. the good news, we were incredibly proud to say that especially because we were in germany representing the state of israel, a baby who had this in a while ago. mudville, maria, beam. the girl wanted to give me the 90 slade. anybody know you? the other day when i came to the olympics, i was in the best form of my life. a good many. i think i was a young woman of 19 and a half at the peak of my performance. i felt like a well trained and well disciplined horse that had been brought to the olympics and let lucy and that's reflected in my results. only bad rubbish. each time i ran i broke high level record wasn't calling. it's actually i had to break my own records every time which was a difficult thing to do my lord washer. but i need to tell his bullet that's mutually private wrath. about very got it up. it away pours. he's going to be very close to when it goes to horses, it was a happy time. joy, full time, full. i was having fun. cool. that's fine. i. i got closer and closer to the finance with james king, but then it suddenly ended in the most brutal way possible, like a guillotine coming down on the spam. but a just after the meeting was the lebanese week went for 2 days to holland because our baby daughter was in the hospital crying all spent 4 hours on today. nobody understood why i'm not able to go back. she only got 2 days off, but i said, i'm going to stay here in holland and take care of the baby. we finished your competitions in a week, we are going to see each other again. we've goes back to the delegation. i go back with the baby and everything. so i stayed norland and in the morning the next in order to 1st of september, my parents came to my bedroom and they said the, actually how many people are in the israeli delegation. and i just opened my eyes and i said, i thing 20 or something. 22. i don't know. exactly. i said, why do you ask this 7 o'clock in the morning? you know. good afternoon, i'm jim mckay's big into live just outside the olympic village in munich. west germany, the piece or what does or have been called the serene olympics were shattered. just before dawn this morning, about 5 o'clock, when arab terrorists armed with sub machine guns, faces blackened, climbed the fence, went to the headquarters of the israeli team, and immediately killed one man, 2 shots and i had a, a rare b, a 6 a m. there was a knock on my door and the latest report is that one more has been killed us off the shipment. i thought maybe they'd come to wake me because i was late for the racism. i said just a minute and i put my tracks on before i opened the door to be today's performance . please. of course are there. the army is there. now coming out, the thing. got more bizarre and more eerie. see the man with this fucking mascot faced? weird. when you put out a daily, i opened the door and there was a swimmer named tional meat and the woman who looked after the flow. why was on the show me? v omitted so cheerfully tallapoosa, though they told me that terrorists had entered the athletes accommodation i believe la b tangela spoke to him. they had said a deadline of noon, which is just an hour. and 15 minutes ago saying that they were going to kill all of their hostages at that time. that deadline obviously has passed or has been no more action that we know as the 1st time that you're lympics were televised life. so you could follow it and you could see what was happening here. there's the man with a white hat. i said in follow the t. v 21 hours. of course, i want to 1st immediately go back to munich because i was here all the time at the security people of the embassy, they said, don't go there because there is no way to communicate with you. thousands and thousands of people are outside of the gates and you will get lost there and they won't let you in. actually, we all watched the negotiations. the whole world watched columbus e round as heat became a maddening sight venica from him. coloma we constantly had the ultimate channel. if you don't release 200 terrorists and jail in israel, then every 2 hours we're going to kill somebody and throw them out the window. when is a local burst, they said that they were going to kill the hostages by noon, it was terrible because i thought, well, and i might be the next that they're going to kill, extended that deadline of 5 o'clock. we'll get back to 3 again to 5. the last time i saw him alive, roz, it's around 5 in the afternoon. at this point here in front of the building, there was the crisis team, the minister of the very out of the federal republic, dejection embezzler everybody. was standing here and he was there on the 2nd floor up can i saw that he did not wear his glasses and i felt it. so you really eating for him because i knew that he couldn't see without his glasses. i saw how he was boost with the rifle, beckoned to the room, the windows closed, curtains closed and that is really the last time i saw him alive. the terrace brought the israelis down, an underground car park and to a bus with a or b nuke me. those directly beneath the building we were in. then i looked but i couldn't see my coach. you are. i saw the terrorists. they walked as though they were the kings of the world as though they were the ones calling the shots. mushroom team for the girls have just announced they are demanding to be allowed to fly out of germany and the germans agreed to let the arabs take their hostages. the heliport to the one side with them. i still remember my mother said, oh, you know, at least they're going to be there doing something, at least they're going to take them away. and then they might negotiate, said mom, this is the end of them because why the germans did not want to hama, you know, inside her fun olympic village. they wanted them out of there. they wanted to continue with the olympic games. a shame halim once they were gone, i was asked to go on with the competition. i said, i can't believe what i'm hearing shame, shifflett hart. my coach has gone and it has been an incredibly exhausting day. how can i compete? i am at the a missile get originally they said that the hostages were saved. now that has been changed. and as valve, the teen doctor took me into a side room so that i be able to sleep if they should be ready to race the next day, all hell is broken loose out there. i say i didn't sleep well. i had dreams 100 more. and they took all the israelis together, was the a terrorist. they took him to his underground parking garage downstairs in the bus . they took them to the to waiting helicopters. and then i saw on life, stacy, the 2 helicopters, taking off from the olympic village with old israel used bounder. one told you, although you're not tied to each other. and then they went to a small military airport news and told them that there was still shooting going on the report of a burning helicopter. ash i have all my teammates was sitting in front of the tv in the living room watching to see what would happen in my values, her grin, all powers fears. tom realized as aim shovel in the middle of the night, they announced that every one had been killed or worse, fears realised tonight they're all gone. a chest for the but got the thing. when i woke up and saw their faces, i knew what had happened. ah ah, we have only the strength of a great ideal i am sure. the public will agree that we cannot allow a handful of terrors to destroy this nucleus of international cooperation and goodwill. it is in deep sorrow that the israeli delegation leaves the federal republic germany to day. the game must go on any stock dishes? i told myself i wouldn't cry on tv any more when i talk about shipping to the bailiff. but when i speak of it, the image is come back to me. i use my mail, those 2 days abandoned to my memory in all i tried to distance myself from it, but when it comes back i feel the pain all over again. there me equate to leave my doors, loop fixer. we took no room for group and where are you see? oh scores then oh, walking dived in to food. do i go on the same german, this is the where i do is oh, there you go. you know, i call you 1st stop by deals chill claim it. we saw them putting the coffins in tar plains and i know my scene with our noise they enter. so they sat inside, not knowing what to think you come to the olympics hoping to fulfill your dreams? yeah. again, quality glory to the core. last example, actually my low my coach was supposed to be next to me, but now he was down below. ah. when i came back from you in a gust of this whole tragedy, i was very angry, very, very angry and, and my parents, of course they said look, what are you going to do? and i said to tell you the truth, i don't know yet i, after all was think about it. and they said to me, of course, we would love for you to come back to holland. your financial situation will be much better, your family situation, your security situation. but they said to me, if you decide to stay in as well, we totally accept that. and we will come as many times as you allow us to come. so it took me a few days and they said, this is the place where i have to be i will never be able to explain to her not to the baby or father was or why it happened if i live and i'm saddam in a beautiful house, in whatever. 8 8 ah, looks any facility when i got back to israel, i thought so this is my mission now. marsha, this is what i'm going to do at all. olivia. i'm going to return to the olympics and not allow it's really spirit to be broken in the majority because that's what they want to break houses and boy cost us everywhere. lee, from our limpy, i decided to go back to the olympics. silly. i reached an olympic finance, which was my coaches dream in the shop jump in when i broke my record again in the 100 meter hurdles climb. i could feel all israeli people supporting me as they are much they knew i was continuing my coaches mission with it was emotional and professional. at the same time it was completely different to a naive dream of going to the olympics. it was much stronger. i certainly didn't want to be vince, but understood that the state might take a different stance. the they're all over gum or luther cru, insulin and an older girl, lou, ill to illuminate quarto oh, girl flu for through merger from god. they occur in the killer over a theme unit. hi, lee cousins, elena. he was the operation officer and he was the louisville. you see, suck greece's go. gun. good total though. we're good to good 3 them. i lose cousin though, man. he's a constant mill. the earl of jews, and this is the ceaseless worry to group 3 go from under the order of golden me year and her government is secret service team was assembled. they were supposed to target yasser arafat's, protege ali has some solomon. he was the operation chief of black september. this kind of forward, and the fence as intelligence, spying all this syllable for him. she was patricia ross, bra canadian. introduce herself as a finance photographer, we're looking for a french picture agency. i 1st met her as a party with some for at a friend's flat in paris. she stood out because she was very spacious, tall, raven had for a lively eyes strong. but also that was a mystery about her she was very thought through and this was important. she puts an intense into the person in. she gets that person to floor up and get all the information. and then she got what you wanted. she moved on. i was, i was a jet journalist with national realms press and, and i think that's looking back on it was shoot, she wanted to, i think, to link up with journalists who might travel and give her an excuse to go to places . and so she was, you know, she said, let's go and get the 1st into was kind of cathy. but kelly, i mean, looking back on it, you know, her interest in taking pictures of kind of credit. she, we're not so not just journalist sylvia decided that she's going to make a leon and devote herself for the state of israel. no method the price will be afford instead of make a new home, you saw this and they wanted to contribute. so something i for to, to like to be very low level hello. why are often you use women as cover ups? you can see jeanette, a favor. are somebody woman, but man, you're considered low and that what was talked about? not full time and definition in not a mission like this loan value of low noise that you spoke, colonel region word. it was a very confusing situation and i start understanding that i was in logan something more serious that anticipated and i haven't degree to come weighed. it was kind of too late to go back home. but they was such an emergency. they had the lead that asylum, it was on the strange move to no way i did start to is just for a few basic course. apples not train for anything particular so i didn't know anything or the majority of it through through. so you saw the high from, from low that showed my photograph and i said it's not the same, but for the build and on the photograph he has a very special eyebrow. so i don't think it could be him. said there was a said it wasn't in marietta just decided to go ahead and you ha, a judy is really assassination squad and come to lead a hammer on the trailer. been salami, the area behind the munich olympics attack, the whole atmosphere was so unpopular, did so forced in the sick stream confusing that they were shadowing, led them to patricky, a 30 year old moroccan waiter. and my everything faded because it wasn't welter pack. is really clear, the patricky was a top man in black september was not be improved by the norwegian. police who think the wrong man was killed. i'd have was, yesterday they least didn't listen to anything. i said they chose to ambush. patricky is he and his pregnant wife came over late night bus 2 men, unmasked youth voice, 22 pistols. with silence. as the kid i was yes. so shattered, i bought the whole experience because i never moreland teen for such a thing. same type of weapon used in the assassination of arabs in room. and i went into my new shock. 6 of the gang were arrested, surrounded by an unprecedented security screen. quality camera for listened on mute, said police aren't giving much away, which was evident from our interview with the lead investigator. we believe yesterday, 5 different cars were connected with the murder. both of you may it of honestly than seen fall a, b, r for foreigners. a 2 men and 2 women have been arrested. the o. p a whole in swedish, canadian and british citizenship hiscock, and had several sets of identity papers, with vocals, popular to men are still being sought suspected of firing the 12 shots that killed boucher keep it acceptable. shiki metals good for open. got well it was one day in 1973 in a, in saigon where i was reporting the war in vietnam. and i went ranch, the brightest news agency office. and there was a, a bulletin meeting and very urgent and snap story from reuters vernacular. i'm from norway saying that there had been a murder in the tongue called little hammered. and they listed the names of the i'm cynthia killers alleged killers at the time. and one of them was my former lover from paris, sir, named as patricia rocks for the freelance photographer who is subsequently identified in fact as sylvia raphael from south african. mm. so i was actually from august, it was bit of a day's ready. oh i have crushed myself into who i had never had news any suspicions, but i mean she to see everyone in that respect jenny. she turned to see me otherwise, but she was obviously very well trained and kept office front. mm valadez shall on the got the 1st time i met sylvia was when she appeared in court and lyla, hama, upset the way she appeared. and what she said were very impressive of shemelle better. your fiance of lusty amazon lockets, shalon, we were pushing for gamma and sylvia to be pardoned because they got the longest sentences. 5 and a half years. he hattermio, how much was his shot? well, he momentarily nod. established a mass. yes, early puddles of i don't remember exactly how long she was in prison. her sentence was reduced for good behavior. and she was released from clara those on the massage team in law mouth like marianna and sylvia. they really paid a price. ah, i was in there, woman, prison outside. awesome. and you kept in isolation, you don't meet anybody else. and in the beginning, no radio, no papers, no nothing. it wasn't like any torture or anything. it's an all way. so so we're in a way this is difficult because everybody was very friendly. ringback ah ah rather glad that i decided to hang up my running shoes and started family. i had a child if he hears that everywhere i go. people ask if i'm still running with the yes i'm still running and the 45 year record is still mine a. i think that's a record in itself. how? because there's no other country where a new national record wasn't set up in the 100 meters over that period to talk to. after all, it's one of the most popular disciplines and athletics ball. it was unfortunate that i held it for so long with i was waiting for a talent to come along like i lakisha or, ah, i follow them because i fell in love with him and that didn't matter or where he came for what he was doing. i worry was go, i just wanted to be with him. i was totally in love with him. i cannot explain in words what real love is. now that you cannot, if and standards when you are not together and that you are only waiting for him to come home and waking up in the morning next of this face the day, it was wonderful. it was the best time of my life. i remember that when i was about 3 or 4 years old, i was playing with a neighbor's kid and he said to me, ah, arabs killed your father. and i, my mother tells me that i came home and i said, is that true? and so then she had to, um, sit down and explain more details about it. i want her to understand the situation here. and i also want her to grow up without hating because not everybody killed her father. it's only a very small group, and she has to now this and this was for me, incredibly important to make that point that, that she, because she also has to live with, you know, with the facts. and she could hate also because she grew up without a father. i never stopped trying to get recognition from the international olympic committee. i came already a montoya da olympic games in 76. and i asked for a minute of silence or, you know, to recognize what happened with been, ah, a look over the pillows. i've come back to the olympic stadium after 45 years sleepy. i am wearing the same clothes they gave me here back then from pu migration, lloyd. ball me, me, paula zab. good them shell. if nobody takes me back to that time, the deal with the vanka lay of the lamb shea. but to live for when i 1st came here, i was so excited about the olympics. i learned piazza and when i left, i was so sorry. i love nobody. lafayette who valeca mccomb zed. ah, with with a thought mammoth leave. the n of i, man, it's the full we it was the brawl would to give her the say a torch. ah yes ma'am. it was time the record was broken after 46 years. i knew some of the mill. i was very happy that diana do it when they see she's good muslim, is the nasty show that there's progress in this country that the athletic program is strong. maybe it would, maybe now more girls will choose the sport with her mother. clearly esther is a role model for me. i want to be like her and me, my child for to yours calla. i believe that my plan is to qualify for the tokyo or paris olympics. this is for him to validate for these let's not forget what happened so that we will make a vow that this will never happen again, that we will do everything they were never willing. because in montreal, they said there are 22 arab nations participating in olympics and they will leave and they will go all i said, well let them if they don't understand what you lympics are all about, then they should go on the next diamond mood, for example, in barcelona, they said to me, you are bringing politics into and i bring in politics, you are the biggest political organization there is. then they said to me, after like 30 years or something, they said it's too early. uh huh. what do you want it gone with m a v or something? if you have a problem to say, let's not forget what happened today is rarely jews or whatever don't branch and that there were jewels or is or, and you say that they were part of the olympic family. they were athletes just like you guys are. and then he said, yeah, but the opening ceremony of the olympic games is such a joy fall or occasion. we don't want to do something sad like just to rec, back and i looked at the open ceremony and all day remember to have her attack in london. and he sat are 46 herb nations. my hands are tight. i said no, your hands were not tight. the hands of my husband and his teammates, and not only his hands were tied, their feet were tied also to the, to the furniture in the, in the they finally came around a memorial ceremony that was in real sunday night in honor of the 11th israeli. after work, the head of the president of the international committee had this memorial service . he called out and names. he had a minute of silence and looked around and the sold is buildings of the olympic village. and i said, andre, at top, 44 years, but now you have it. finally, you and your teammates, the recognition that was long due to you because you came to the olympic games in order to participate in this festival of love and brother, old and peace and whatever. and you old, came home in the coffins, and this, the world should not forget. i can only be very grateful that they've done this work because it, 50 years later, almost here we are still talking about the story still mentioning it. and it's mostly because they didn't let the world forget of what happened in munich because we know that those we forget his story. are bound story. peters. and people looked at me many times. they said, oh yes she is. again. i said, yes, i will be here again until you do the right thing. finally, after 45 years, this beautiful memorial was erected on the very grounds of the munich olympic village. under age be foundry spitzer, fencing trainer 27 years old here. the least bit so if one only were ha, ha ha. so shawn, sports fits the rebellion. the whole no lever from mugs law in the line was fearful . my no need for, unquote, on legal bol been. so she was dying. sion is shown here as a really was crazy about his baby daughter. this is a picture when we got married in hollins. as a fencing trainer his students came, surprises came out. and this is the muskets of the olympic games of munich. and when i came into the room to take his personal things, there was really nothing to be taken because everything was bloody and so on. but the only things i took was this little dog that he bought for the baby, our baby a nope. we still have of course, the dead. and from all the athletes, you know, we have personal things. they were family men. they were, they had children, they did all kinds of things and it was important for me that this would be shown that they were not only a name, but that they see all these people. why i did it is you're losing a spokesman for the interior ministry, announced that the olympic games would continue to focus on believable acadia dom sheila, implicitly life return to normally with that was painful because we had left the blood of our loved ones that are in shalana a the machine was english more people want to hear the store. i left hillbash. i have to start from the beginning again and again. they become a part of me to hide. apparently i still do it because we're talking about it right now. i am convinced that if the world would have reacted differently in munich because munich was more or less the opening shot for international terrorism, that was there is and before, of course, but not on the skill that the whole world was watching. if even the international olympic committee, which is a very powerful organization, if they would have taken a stand and condemned it, it would not be in this situation as at this. now it's, it's a crazy situation here with them. for the last 30 years, i've been working like a foreign correspondent for dutch belgium television and radio reporting on the middle east. i'm often in the gaza strip. for me it's very important to show what is happening here. i tried to show both sides objectively, although objectivity doesn't really exist, but you know, without this thing this, this cloud pangs in the back of my head without having this my history interfere with my opinions or with my subjects or whatever. ah it's thinking i don't feel like talking it wasn't a story i was so proud of and wendy stuck, i'll be starting with these through natural got the papers i saw to do to little bit, but i haven't got to read reading all the letters. i would love to letters for pete, but i know when i took the marked off to 40 years, i didn't remember all these people writing i got that far that i took it out, but i haven't answered it. and i can only deal with one thing that the dummy nickos i'm looking for him to. so it's a limit to what i can do. i said look to yes, stay in the country. i was in school, it is a lot of work to take care of the play he or to my health takes time when you have scars and heels and you don't deal with it. look better much to door to the scar soon too much time passed. you put the lead on it and you go back in your continue for good invoice and that would have been doing more this year. my case, i think a her other optimistic view will. so i'm curious, else what happening and new things and that's why i don't remember so much now i think i leave it behind. so that's high. did it. i don't know. i mean, i think that although sylvia had had viciousness about it, that was possibly a loneliness on her life because it was a life of deception too low. she was very resilient to the trial. and ah, i acted as if it didn't matter that they'd killed an innocent man an order in front of his pregnant wife. it must have been a moment when ross been afterwards. when she got out of prison, she fell in love with the man she spent the rest of her life. with her defense lawyer, it must have been a moment when she risotto life, i think and reconsidered what was important and went back to her roots in south africa and ultimately and it lift aquatics distance. and i like that phrase that she used in talking to in his rage on this one. so i want to live in honesty. i think it's, it's, it's very tough actually, she was living a double life. and you can keep that up. i mean for, for a certain length of time and, and, and something goes wrong and, and all you built out has, is sudden exploded and shattered. she was suddenly found to be living ally, and i think that's guessed, that's the admission of that is hard to come to terms with a voices of the birds around here. we can get wind of the trees. she couldn't. i think she couldn't stay to a better place to live down in b peacefully with hell sand phone, the end of him. ah, i don't think there is healing for a murder. this loss will go with me till the last day of my life. i think that that saved her the fact that she was so focused on no common ration in getting justice. i think that was her only way to survive and to keep my father alive. i owe it to him because i know who he was and he was the gentlest and most peace loving person. and to think that they died that his hands and his feet knocked off his glasses broke his bones. i think this is unacceptable. this i will never forgive anyone for doing this. my dad must have been the love of relief because this, that girl, ah, for her to be willing to leave a very comfortable life and come to israel 147 years ago. and her sacrifice or of that for him. and it must have been love. i think she will be always be busy with her, making sure that the munich story is kept alive and, and i hope for her. but finally, after all these years, she will be able to not forget, but put it to rest. she also deserves till go on it. there took too many years of her life. so i have one more thing on my littlest. i do want a independent investigation committee to really find out what happened because the story is not that simple. that 8 palestinians came to kill 11th his race. we were denied access to all the documents for 20 years and somebody stole little worked in the archives in munich. he stole 80 pages and with these 80 pages read a b were successful and we got 4000 files and hundreds of pictures. and the things that you already read are unbelievable. if you know that you're right outside of munich, 2 weeks before the olympic games, they let palestinians train in a german military camp for what you know, and this is just wanting. there are many, many other things that we found. and i think i o, it's not only to my husband and to his friends, but also to history that the right things will be told. and this is my last project . and then i hope i can go home because that was a long and lonely journey. it i met you that master. he must die. i will see that your mother did it. she would always to one the tail will point on the scanner, kellen, when lemme kill them because you step on it. i love well, oh, fully the children later on when elana and my mother can do it any more that will continued their legacy. oh, if a yeoman hon. um your grandma sweetheart. ah ah, and the question is, where will all this lead meant? it cost human lives and a lot of money. both sides help a solution can be found because that's the whole point i get i thank you. i have a v r t news from the gaza strip with ah ah, with who oh, there is an old saying show me how you live and i'll tell you when you are visiting king lucas. the 2nd of that area at no shrine shine castle. 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