Transcripts For DW A Mothers Nightmare 20240707 : comparemel

Transcripts For DW A Mothers Nightmare 20240707



what's true, what's vague? it doesn't matter. the only criteria is walked. we'll hook people up. we shed light on the opaque world. who's behind benefits. and why are they a threat to whistle? oh, peak worlds this week on d. w. ah ah. ah, your call has been forwarded to an automated voice message to him. oh any more? i'm guy. i mean, i think you really need some help. we're here. can you can you call me back? i just need you to call me back. so love you by me. ah, absolutely heartbreaking here. my sister is much he. she was hurting so bad. she need about it. unfortunately. all the. ah me ah ah, this afternoon this driveway is where as far still lingers over here you will find a growing memorial for 3 young girls who are found dead in a bed and now their mother is facing criminal charges. we know they're all intended for my be great and even praying for that woman. she had the minute the suspect in this case is 30 year old carol coronado. carol had called her mom saying she was going crazy. grandmother came to health, she found the body over 3 grandchildren in the one bed care. the grandmother said, had been standing me a day, the twin towers right now. carol housing medical board inside the jail visit her about the upcoming trial. we have i'm looking for the right result, which i believe in our experts believe is that she's not guilty by reason of insanity. yes, the act was done. i don't think there's a real question as to who did the act. we're not really arguing, arguing that the argument comes down to what was her state of mind at the time of this incident. everyone agrees that there's something going on with carolyn something was going on at the time. and this incident, she wasn't herself, the prosecutor nist of yours and her team of police officers that are working on this case are very fed on convicting heard of 1st degree murder. but what keeps me going is knowing that carol wouldn't have done this, you know, knowing her as a person and knowing more and more about post partners, psychosis keeps me going. it keeps me doing everything i can for the right result for her i i met carol coronado upon her arrival at twin towers correctional facility, roughly, maybe 6 days after her crime. when i met her, she was similar to a catatonic patient. she appeared extremely depressed. fairly moved. we had placed her in a suicide gown. a cab flour material. it's not comfortable. most inmates ask right away. how long am i going to be in the gown? when do i get out of the game? she didn't mentioned the gown, it's like, it wasn't even there. she seemed very thin. she looked like she had not been eating . and even though she just had surgery and had given medications to help her sleep, it sounded like she hadn't slept in over a week. and she looked like the diagnosis that i gave her in layman's term is post, pardon? because there were 3 psychiatrists who had seen her in those 1st 5 or 6 days. and the consensus was that, you know, this was a very sick patient also screened her for depression and it did appear that she had had depression after both of her pregnancies actually, and wasn't treated. so that actually elevates her risk significantly during 3rd pregnancy. so she, she, she had that risk factor. air. oh ah, i'll pen bill swami. so auto parts here been here for 7 years. there's a problem to fill up a hardship with i think. yes. okay. not yeah. okay. probably a lot of people campaign. a lot of people come through for me, those are the hardest part of the day. you quick enough in getting ready to leave, to go home. i used to be in a rush. there were home. how could i wish to get home from a girl? and now this live the part that i missed the most of my high. that is my smiles. there's the run for me. when i got home i don't get none of that. no more. as a father i was kind of raised to work. no provide for your family. we didn't really have no luxuries. like we didn't have a lot of extras, but we weren't like struggling we were okay. i love the fact them to her and to provide for my family that made me. i love the ferry, the waking up in the morning. come the were good before i left, before i left to work, i would, i would look around and i see my little girls and that was my energy, all of my power to, to push and i pushed for them. i pushed her for parents with one child long 2 and then 3, then back to back. it's very, it's very hard. carol didn't most of their duties when they came to my daughters, i would help her, but she did mainly 95 percent of it. now i did like going to work and, and, and, you know, providing but she did most of the maintaining and also it was very difficult for carol as well. it was very difficult. charles babies were very close together. he and yes, you were 14 months apart and yazzy and were only 13 month apart. shortly after they got engaged, she found out she was pregnant and she was home about it. and then tell me when her doctors and we're only going to see the baby today, she was always super excited about it. mm. busy i came in abilene the happiest day. i don't know that i've ever seen her happier or of joy i. she definitely very excited about meeting her holding her. she didn't wanna like over baby, her baby. i don't think she had any difficulties with it and complain about being overly uncomfortable. i like the i don't know that she was necessarily ready to have more babies. i don't necessarily think any of them were planned. i think they were kind of more surprises. welcome surprises. ah me. when carol became frank yasmine, maybe because they were close together. i oh, there is flies where she is bent over and she couldn't get up the kitchen. i had a helper, heard her in bed. i didn't notice any changes in carol after yazzy other than fact that she was tired. but you know, i'm, i'm a moms who i'm tired all the time. she didn't seem sad. i know that she was very, very stressed because the kids were so close in age. my kids are 2 years apart. so i, i understood what she was going through when you have little kids. ah, but she was always very patient. she would never yell at the girls. yes, shannon carol did confide in me that it was very difficult for her because she was trying to better herself. she was trying to finish her bachelor's degree. she was trying to do a lot of things that were already difficult as it was and still trying to be a mother and a wife. when you know she was with the children all day really was working on when he would come home. she would expect them to take over it so she could try to do things, make dinner or study or do whatever she needed to do. but rudy expected certain things, his mother was a stay at home mom, and so he expected dinner to be set and to take care of the kids and he would go to work and come home and things should be done. oh, to me when tell the trainer with senior we went to a baby shower and she was, she was already, she was probably like 7 months or so and she couldn't log. and so then i looked at her and then i said, are you okay? and, and she says, yeah, she's like, i get a lot of pain and she's like it, it, it happened with my pregnancy and i don't know what it is. but it's like i can like almost like she was cripple because she was limping and she couldn't walk straight . carol was lot passers after the 3rd baby next in it came into the picture. she just the heart more tired and hungry. she was say, all the mom tug hungry extending it was real hard on her. and then she fell into like a depression. mm. there is a full spectrum of mental illnesses or mental health struggles that arise in, in the aftermath of childbirth. there's the baby blues that happened when the hormones are just crashing and burning. after you have a baby, you'll go from a real high to a real low where you're suddenly be and just uncontrollably sad. the baby blues is very common among women. about 3 out of 4 women who give birth are going to experience this symptoms usually go away in 2 to 3 weeks. ah, aside from that, there's the more serious postpartum depression that sets in for a percentage of the population. um and it's generally within the 1st 6 weeks, one of the home or characteristics of those pardon, depression is the inability to sleep. sleep deprivation is absolutely key. sleep deprivation is used as a torture technique and the sleep deprivation is one of the key risk factors. then one of the other ways in which we see postpartum depression present is with panic attacks. women feel as though they can't cope. they feel totally overwhelmed in some severe cases. women feel suicidal and they're not able to take care of their baby. postpartum psychosis is at the far end of that spectrum of mental illness as it happens in one or 2 women out of every 1000 babies that are born. it's a common misconception that postpartum psychosis is just really bad depression, but baby blues doesn't get worse and then it's depression and then it gets worse and psychosis. they're different. mental illness is a beast. and post fordham is a nasty bitch, her words, postpartum depression to me mean living how i had never heard of this harm postpartum depression. and when this baby came around it was i was hit by a buzz. it hit me like a ton of bricks. i went in working 80 hours doing well. i came out wanting to kill myself. i noticed i was really irritable. i felt down who was angry. i with my child, i'm experiencing daily anxiety attacks. something i'd never experienced in all my 40 years. anxiety just kept getting worse and worse and it just these constant thoughts and she just could not shut up in your own mind. that was part of the living hell. and it would be anything from, like i said, the baby wife to not wanting the kid to having to make dinner to do the laundry time again. so i got a 100. i got to get off my husbands going home. people are visiting, i'm exhausted. crime. i would cry and we would just cry together. i fell 5000000 feet down. i wanted to be a mother that i had always dreamed of being and instead of being able to be that mother, i was on my knees and i could hardly function. my wife is getting door to prostate a. she would basically just not take care of herself. my daughter, even the animals in the house and the dogs and cats wouldn't get fed like my daughter would be still in the same viper since i left for work in the morning. i stopped eating. i lost 55 pounds in 2 months. but i also was really struggling with intrusive thoughts about arming my baby. i would be holding her and i would think, i wonder if i just like banged her head into the counter. then i be like what, what do you mean like, i don't want to being her head in the counter. i would passa an electrical port and i would suddenly imagine it around my baby's neck. i would pass the microwave, i would imagine putting the baby in the micro, any possible harm. these thoughts are alien to these women. it's not that they really want to do it. and in fact, they feel terrible. they are just tortured. i was horribly ashamed and really quite afraid of telling anyone i kept the scariest of the images and thoughts to myself and it was a horrible deep secret. and all i could think of was, i just close my eyes and go to sleep. she'll be fine. my husband and my mother here to take care of her. i did my job. i brought her into this world. i am not equipped to to hear her. my job was just to be a vessel and bring her here is no way i can even try to take care of this young baby. ready ready ready ready most women feel like they're going off the deep end. they have absolutely no idea what's happening to them. and again, the shame of feeling depressed at as high when you're expected to feel really happy, tends to exacerbate the problem of postpartum depression. women tend not to name it, they tend not to talk to their doctors or even their, their spouses about it. and we blame ourselves and we think there's something wrong with. and we silence ourselves and the stigma piles and piles on and piles on. and i'm not going to say out loud that i don't feel connected to my child. i'm not going to say out loud that i don't feel attached. i'm not going to tell you that i'm terrified to be a mother that i'm afraid that i made the worst decision that my child would be better off without me. i'm not going to say any of those things. mm. the father of those 3 young girls allegedly murdered by their mother in torrence came face to face with his wife in court today for the 1st time since that family tragedy, no cameras were allowed in court, but reporters were carol cor, nato was brought out in a wheel chair, we watched as rudy cor. nato shook uncontrollably and wiped away tears every time her name was mentioned. this obviously was a big story. the public was very interested. ah, there are hardly ever stories like this where a mother is accused of killing her own children. i just want to thank everybody through support everybody. i 1st found out about the case when my boss called me in the evening and she told me that so turn on the news and i turned on the news and started watching some of the facts of the case. cases aren't typically assigned personally, like this particular case was usually they just arrive on my desk and i prosecute them from that. but given the media attention to the case and given the other difficulties across could in this particular case i, she offered me the option of prosecuting him and i did want to take it. i mean, those little girls deserved my efforts to get them. justice. coronado has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity, but the prosecutor, she's accusing coronado of planning the murders, even though her family insisted she was a good and loving mother. i know carolyn, she would never, ever, in a 1000000 years, anything like that. no one in america and i don't live or have an over the mother of my children and she doesn't know much. that's why i'm going to stand behind 1000 percent because i know she didn't do it is a disease out there that the family carol and i wanna visit her the 20 hours and trying to find out what actually happened. we can talk because of things being taped or she goes mom on her voice and i was like, why places carol? because i'm interested now. what voices just shook her head. no, i can't tell you someone was telling her to kill the children. of course such lingering in my head like that happen to me. but when i had that made me feel my child when i was brought in, i didn't take action. so i'm like said, i don't understand. it was hereditary. yeah, i had them me, postpartum psychosis is an awful illness. often it will hurt very abruptly. the symptoms include confusion. they may not know where they are or what day it is. these are women who have a complete break with reality and that they are hearing voices, or even seeing delusions and things that aren't there. they lose the ability to distinguish between what's reality and what's the summation. there are delusions associated with postpartum psychosis. sometimes it's about the baby being evil. sometimes mother is feeling terribly inadequate. postpartum psychosis is a psychiatric emergency, and these women must be separated from their babies because we don't really know what's going on in their mind. the statistics are that about 4 percent of these women will commit infanticide. and about 5 percent of these women will commit suicide. i've never heard about post partum psychosis, nor are we ever spoken to about that. after shame was born, postpartum psychosis, i had never heard of that. and in fact, until i don't, i don't even know 456 months ago when i started looking into postpartum depression after my wife was was, was dead. i suffered postpartum psychosis. i had it was my 1st child on in 1980 during my 1st prenatal visit, when i saw my midwife, i told her i had done some pretty crazy things after alison was born and i was hospitalized in the psychiatric unit. and her advice at the time was, you don't have to worry about that happening again. i had a daughter named melanie, who wanted a baby more than life itself. and when melanie delivered her baby, she went on to postpartum psychosis immediately had no idea how deadly it was. i had no idea how many mothers had killed their children under the influence of postpartum psychosis. i had no idea that i wasn't going to be able to save my daughter. i everything really was picture perfect and tell. i'd stop nursing michael at 9 months. little that i know that that was going to drive me completely insane. and that's what happened. i really only noticed any fear a little less than 2 weeks or to their death. i happen so quickly or it really started after she took her birth control pill. i choose never the same person from then on. oh, extreme paranoia abnormal anxiety that i've never witnessed and my wife mm. i started to think that michael was for double and then it was really my calling that i needed to drown him. i remember kneeling, big god, tell me what to do. and i took him and filled up aftab wish, lukewarm water, and i just placed him down until he dime. it seemed like melanie was determined to die. she said, all mammy have such a bad mother. the baby doesn't deserve to have a mother as bad as i am. and i don't, i do. i should believe she checked in a hotel. she went up to have 2013 floor. i really want to know when she jumped out of the window, my worse surely. i believe she did in the young teacher large. and she's large because she was suffering from postpartum psychosis. just the fact that there was not enough information that could have prepared as stores going on as a failure in our system. my wife is dead of my kids have no mom. what i want to tell guys out there for husbands, if you know or you feel something's off, you need to go talk to somebody. you need to go get help. and i would go even so far as to say, you need to get her in the car like right king then and go somewhere like a hospital one . what about harold's ellsworth? she, honeywood ah, right now room comes in still counting. the amount of st plays cover up around the corner. like the little way, the way kids in the neighborhood. joining in carson area. i don't care over 20 years. oh sure, the suite quite a little girl. she was sent to play by herself. she's very passive, like her mother, very sweet thing. she was very obedient. the old house wishes this screen. and then there's this house over here. every time i will come by here with you to start crying, why she's or see, she's kind of all like this thing to see if this is out molested in this house. i was like 5 result will come by this. how it will come by the street shoot either similar or if we came walking to run past this felt like the like a little girl. next you have flashbacks, of when she was young, carol did have some traumatic events in her life, and she was less than a couple different times. once by a family member who she was gang raped scenario. and when she was in the army briefly to my knowledge and report it, anybody. but she did tell us about it. she was always stuck in the past of all of them to magazines and happen to her. so every time something happens, she would always compare it to something that happened in the past. past. she was real fearful. we know now the science is there, that there is a significant correlation between early childhood trauma and later psychotic illness. i think we have to look back there for psychiatric history or trauma history so that we can understand how did she get from this place where she gave birth to this child that she really wanted to the events that occur when i look at the facts around carol's case, the mental illness piece actually isn't just the psychosis. it's every bit of the baggage that she brought with her into the work of parenting. in who would have thought that would be a great idea to have a woman who had as much trauma as she did as a child at home by 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