Our panel. Jayar jackson. I hope your unraveling theory isnt disastrous. Cenk i hope im wrong about it. On satellite, america how are you, my friend. Hey, cenk, good, and you . Cenk you look sharp man you look much sharper than us. I overdressed. Cenk pleasant your heart you look fantastic. Leading the ship, the Cara Santa Maria. That sounds like the captain of a ship. I get that. Early today we got our first glimpse of zorkar z r tsarnaev. Hes being indicted on 30 charges, including the death of two adults one child at the bombing and an mit police officer. He came to the federal courthouse today and submitted a plea of not guilty. Lets take a look. Supported by heavily armed guards tsarnaev arrived at the courthouse inside a white van. The accused boston bomber stood before a judge on wednesday slapped with a total of 30 charges. With his arm in a cast, he plead not guilty to all counts includes using a weapon of mass destruction. In attendance some of the victims from that horrific day when bombs tragically interrupted the boston marathon. The attack killed three people and injuring 263 others. And tsarnaev had supporters outside of the courthouse. His brother was killed after a highpolicespeed police chase. So it seems to be the case that there were many many kind of not supporters, i should say many victims advocate advocates families of the victims over 250 people were injured in the boston bombing, many who lost their limbs, and many came to the courthouse to watch tsarnaev put in his plea. I want to see who changed their lives forgive. They lost their legs in the bombings. They dont see themselves as victims but they want tsarnaev to pay. If you had an opportunity to speak to him directly, what would you say . Probably wouldnt do too much talking with him. I probably helped moving forward what is the primary thing that gets you through it. Just getting better. I wanted more than anything to just stand up on two feet. Cenk oh man seeing that is really tough right . But there was also, cara about a dozen tsarnaev supporters out there. Yes. Cenk this is crazy. I understand that some were old friends from high school. He does have friends and family. Cenk i get that, and his sisters were there. And his mother and father, they told cnn that theyre watching or maybe it was abc that theyre watching from their home country in russia. Cenk yes, i have two notes on that. His friends i get. Theyre his friends. Theyll stick by him whatever. This girlfriend, this 23yearold lacy buckley came in all the way from the state of washington and there were others who dont know him at all, and they had signs up like free dhor. Is there a Conspiracy Theory that hes innocent . It seems like, so, tsarnaev, it seems to be the case. He has a public defender. Thats going to be difficult. He has a public defender. Most people speculating right now are saying her only real plan is to get the Death Penalty off 9 table. But im wondering if part of the defense since they did submit a plea of not guilty is going to have something to do with his brother, being under the thumb of his brother his brother being the mastermind, and he was coerced to be involved in this way. His brother is never going to stand trial. He died. Cenk they got to go with that. If they dont go with that, theyre totally screwed. But what is not going to help him is what he scribbled in the boat. He wrote quote i dont like killing innocent people. I cant stand to see such evil go unpunished. We muslimed are one body. You hurt one you hurt us all. ,that would appear to be a confession. Nice knowing you. I mean, in thinking that he was coerced, he was an accomplice as a young kid im the least of the lawyerly ones here but massachusetts law, i would assume, there is plenty of murder cases where there is just someone just driving maybe they didnt pull the trialer and if its a simple case like a gun murder, if youre an accomplice in a crime they charge you the same level. You dont have to be the one to do it. Cenk yes driving the go away car maybe you didnt even know it, they charge you at the same level. If you planted bombs where. 263 people were hurt, people were killed, etc. Showing up there in muslim garb as the reporters called it, that doesnt do muslims any favors. This is not painting a good picture for that group of people. Hes obviously speaking out. He obviously committed allegedly committed. Cenk he obviously allegedly committed he obviously allegedly committed these horrible crimes for something. You just read the quote on the side of the boat. He was feeling passionately about defending something that had to do with his religion, and i think deeper it had to do with his country and culture. Speaking to that, if you were if you remember the older brother who is not going to be able to stand trial, a friend of his was recently killedi think it was mayive got it here, may 22, 22, 2013. Its very murky, the details of this. But there was a standoff with the fbi. Apparently or allegedly there was no weapon. He didnt have a knife. He didnt have a gun. But he was killed in gunfire. There were two Massachusetts Police present. They were just there to interview him. And try and learn more about the bombings. Some how he ended up dead, and nobody is going to investigate. Cenk on the tsarnaev thing it is a weird story right . And apparently tsarnaev came into court today and had a russian accent. He never had a russian accent. He grew up here. Hes much younger than his older brother. Cenk super weird. There are issues of, wow i wonder what happened. But with with elis case, there are issues. There are conflicting reports that he had a knife then he didnt have a knife. They said there were six cops and now maybe there were seven authorities. Its been over a month they havent said how they killed him, why they killed him isnt that outrageous . I remember that story now and i hadnt thought about it for a while. I thought when we saw the headlines there was going to be reporting on it, but we really havent heard anything. If its just the fbi and this other person, the fbi doesnt really want to talk about it, we might not hear a lot about it. The deep question that Everyone Wants to know is why did he do it if he did it, which people assume that did he. He did. You mention the semi confession in the boat, but the fact is i dont think well see dramatic courtroom confession. I think well zoo a trial and the media is going to be bummed. They would like Nothing Better than a great media trial. But i dont think this is going to be the one and i would be shocked if this ever proceeded very far. I think as was mentioned north you its trying to get the Death Penalty off the table and then theyll come to some agreement. Thats my hunch. Nancy grace must be thinking, come on, dont plead. Dont plead. Give me a trial. I was going to ask if it does go to trial is he going to get a fair trial if they keep this in boston . Cenk thats interesting. I never quite believed that. I think if you believe in a jury trial, you trust the jury no matter where they are right . If you dont trust them its such a resonant event for that city, and it will be hard to find someone in boston who never heard of it. Cenk go ahead. They had that First World Trade Center bombing in new york city, and you dont hear about trials being moved to other towns any more. I dont think judges dont buy that any more. Cenk okay, you heard of it, does that make you bias . No. Cenk and i think our jury isnt stupid enough to say okay, i hated that bombing so i will convict anyone they put in front of me. They have to determine that it was the guy who did the bombing if it is, give him the sentence. But is he on is that what hes going to be on trial for . Youre the one who is going the one who did the bombing and you were the guy bleeding in the boat . Is that what the defense is going to say . Or was he was involved, but he didnt do it, he was coerced and his brother had so much power. Cenk thethe ibrahim case, the fbi has to tell us what happened. There have been 150 shootings by the fbi and the fbi said all from justified. In this case the kidand the fbi changed their story saying he had no weapon. Just because he was connected to guys we didnt like doesnt mean we get to execute them on the spot. They have to tell us why in the world in the middle of an interrogation they shot this guy. 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It looks like Anthony Wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. His what in the ring . His hat. Always outspoken, joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . Only on current tv. [ theme music ] cenk all right youre looking at china there or what was a part of shrine. Climate change, of course, picking up speed, and there is actually a new study out today where we find out more. Turns out it might be worse than we expected. Cara santa maria go. This was released by the National Academy of science by an expert for mit. Previous climate models based on the way they did thinks Statistical Analysis historically led to a consensus in the Climate Community that storms were going to become stronger, more devastating but actually the number of storms based on a warming of the atmosphere and the rising of the ocean, the number was going to decrease. But with new evidence available new data about co 2 emissions aerosol emissions, there was a new schematic and theyre showing that not only will the storms become more dangerous devastating, and the number of storms is just going to climb and climb and climb. Cenk that sounds fun wahoo Climate Change. Yeah so i got some info on the study if you want to take a look. The climate study shows that the frequency of tropical cyclones should increase from 10 to 40 . The intensity of the storms may increase by 45 . And the study shows the largest increases might increase in the western pacific Northern Region basically where people live. Cenk the North Pacific region is not our northwest. Its refer asia. So the earthquakes tsunamis, we wont be affected. Yes well be fine. Cenk on average there are 90 hurricanes every year. Not like 200. Not 50, no, always about 90. About 90, and climatologists dont know why. That is the standard number that is sort of holding true. But according to Kerry Emmanuel that is not the case in the future. Cenk fun times. Here is what im worried about. Not that were going to have one really big bad thing happen like Climate Change picks up steam we have hurricanes, droughts floods and its happening as we speak over the last couple of years right. But two or three disasters happen at the same time. In the middle of Climate Change the banks collapse. Independently. Some idiot in hong kong did 60 billion derivative trade he cant untangle, and that led to a loss for j. P. Morgue morgan. Then because of that food prices are going up. That leads to riots in places like africa, the middle east, that leads to a couple of revolutions. When you mix all that together in a nice little thing we have the great unraveling where we begin to lose civility. Basically youre talking about the apocalypse. Cenk im talking about zombies. No, i mean, youre right. The scary thing is that its not that unreasonable. You know, we even see it just with Climate Change. Even if were not talking about any sort of economic crises, just the Climate Change. Do you remember sandy . That wasnt just a storm. That was a storm followed by a very, very coldwith the hurricane, and then a noreaster that combined to cause horrible flooding horrible damage to the eastern seaboard. Were starting to see these things happening in chunks. What happens when florida has a terrible hurricane that strikes, and then multiple tornadoes that come out of that. Like in japan theres is never an earthquake. There is never a tsunami. How about if we throw hurricanes on top of that. Cenk just talking about the unraveling. Yesterday i read a canada, i dont know about the 18 different possibilities of disasters which two or three are going to happen at the same time. Im not saying that its definitely going to happen, but i think there is a chance that we look at the world five years from now or 12 years from now and we say, oh my god i dont know what happened but im worried about safety for everybody. Cara, do you remember sandy no i dont remember sandy any more. It was just last year. Just late last year. No one remembers it any more. Nobody remembers that thats what happened. No one remembers the tornadoes that hit. Do you remember chantal. Cenk i dont remember chantal. That was wednesday. Cenk now eric, that goes to your expertise eric bohlert from media matters. To connect the dots the media would have to tell them. Right. Cenk how do you think the media is reacting to all of this . There would have to be context, but no, the way the media cycle works nothing is connected. Everything just happens independently. Everything happens in a silo. The good news, the bad news, thats one of the things that the press does so poorly is connect the dots. Specifically on Climate Change you know, we waste probably about ten years in this country with the he saidshe said debate about Climate Change. You know, there were sort of these climate denier kooks. They were given fair time because nobody didnt want to be biased and leave anybody out of the discussion. We wasted a decade giving these People National platform when they didnt deserve one. There is a consensus now within the Mainstream Press that you dont need to include a climate denier quote when you write an article about catastrophic theories or hypothesises that we face or clear evidence after clear evidence. But it muddied the waters. What do you consider the Mainstream Press . With you have Patrick Michael who is still continuing to spout this nonsense. I have a video here. He was on cnn earlier this year talking about how none of this is linked to Climate Change. Lets take a look at that. The ocean is warmer than it was 40 years ago. You would think Everything Else being equal that that would result in the increase of hurricane frequency or power. Thats one thing we can look at to see if its happening. I have an illustration that i gave over there that shows something called the accumulateed Cyclone Energy beginning in 1972, thats when satellites began to go up so we can sense all the hurricanes. And it shows no change between 1972 and now. In fact, if you look at the data, the recent years are at or near the lowest value for Hurricane Energy in the entire records. Cenk so this is so frustrating. I mean, there is an expert on cnn who says between 1998 and 2008 we would have a significant cooling trend, and it turns out, yikes, there is no cooling trend. It was some of the hottest years on record. And hes still on tv. But nobody calls him out either. Well, we do. You know, this guy has been doing it for a quarter of a century. We have a recent post up just debunking, as you mentioned were going to have a cooling trend. I bet you that the water temperatures dont go up. All of this stuff is wrong. He gets paid to be wrong. Its weird rightwing welfare. Youre paid to be wrong. You get to be associated with the Cato Institute and you get to be on cnn, and nothing that you say in your expertise is right ever. Thats an example of how the conservative movement, how these think tanks, these moneyed interests muddy the debate, specifically on Climate Change. This is someone who is paid to be wrong and paid to go on tv to be wrong and the fact that hes wrong all the time, thats sort of the Job Description and classic misinformation. Cenk one last thing on this before we leave this topic. I get that Cato Institute is funded by these gi