not every black congregation's issue is that we don't want it to be. we're shamed. what we have done is we have taken a real life situation that is jermainegermane to every congregation in american and turned it into an issue. and folks don't deal with issues. they deal with people. one of the things we're trying to surface is how many of us as human beings are impacted by this system? whether it is as victims and, by the way, the new language is not victim, it is survivors. because if you're a survivor that means you made it through something. and so we're talking now about survivors. whether you're a survivor of a situation, or whether you are someone who has a son or a daughter who is actually in the system, because one of the things we don't talk about much is that 80% of all young black males who are incarcerated are also crime survivors. they don't think of themselves that way but the very institute who has done research and we have discovered that when you interview young men who have been incarcerated, come home and say, if you've been the victim of crime survivor of crime, they say no no, no, never. how many of you have been jumped by somebody with no cause? they all put their hands up. how many of you had something taken from you by force? they all put their hands up. how many of you had your house burglarized? they put their hands up. they have been victimized. they have survived trauma. and unless we are engaged in helping them deal with the trauma they're bound to repeat the trauma. the problem is we see them as someone out there. we don't see them as our children. we don't see them as our grandchildren. but i guarantee you if you were to do an altar call like i will this sunday here in washington, and ask for every parent and every grandparent who has a child that has been impacted by the system, whether it is by a wrongful incarceration, wrongful arrest or whether by an incourse ration orin incarceration or an arrest, i guarantee you that between one-third and one half of the congregation will come forward. this is our issue. i used to try to distance myself from it until i was incarcerated. i don't have one of those rags to riches things where we grow up in the hood and you go to jail and you meet jesus. i met jesus before i went unlike those of you who have not sinned since you became religious. and i drank the shame kool-aid. i didn't want anybody to know that i was in trouble. so i gave them a phony nickname. told them, call me doc. that meant i was the only inmate that had a monogrammed jump suit. that took a while. and so i -- it was okay for two weeks until a young man came up to me and said, pastor i said i don't know you. he said, i used to play drums in your choir. i said, i don't know you. he told me his mother's name. she was on my staff. before i got out of that facility, i met?í15 seven young men whose mothers sisters wives, and cousins i had pastored. every single one of those kids on our streets are connected to us. and the way that we turn this from a moment to a movement, i could tell you about my time at cuyahoga county juvie working with the churches in cleveland but i'll save that for another time because we did some of this work with them because we had to get the church to understand that those are not somebody else's kids. the way you turn a moment into a movement is by turning it from an issue to a face. attorney martin called me a theologian. i'm not a theologian. my students will tell you i'm not a theologian. i'm a sociologist. they just let me teach here. one of the things we know from research is that congregations, the faith community is not motivated by issues. you can tell the faith community to do this because it is right until you're blue in the face, and they won't budge. but if you can link the issue to a face if you can shift from narratives to names, if you can move from numbers to names if you can move from statistics to stories, then you can move the faith community to get involved and invested put a face on it. and now we have got faces. we have got eric garner. we have got trayvon martin. we have got tamir rice. we have walter scott. we have faces. the civil rights moment, one day boycott, in montgomery, became a long-standing movement because it had a face. read martin luther king's speech, launching the boycott in montgomery and you'll find that one-third of it is look what they did to miss parks. segregation had been wrong for a long time, but look what they did to miss parks. discrimination had been wrong for a long time but look what they did to miss parks. and you're right, attorney martin. this isn't new. we had lynchings. we had had police brutality. we had bad cops doing bad things to good people. that's not new. but today's the day we say look what they did to tamir. [ applause ] we told you we would have some interesting thoughts for you and some comments and we have saved our best for last. and the reason i say we have saved our best for last is the concept of community policing is a concept that once was believed to have been one of the best techniques for controlling conduct in a community. not crime conduct. if somebody is selling dope down the street, everybody between the houses knows who is selling that stuff. if somebody has committed a crime in your neighborhood, everybody knows who is committing those crimes. the best way to figure out what is going on in the community is to ask the community. so with that, i'm going to bring in an assistant attorney general from new jersey up who has put a lot of her efforts into understanding these crimes and not just accepting that they have occurred, but trying to see what happens tomorrow with either re-entry, community aspects, or second chances. so with that, assistant attorney general moore, will you share some thoughts with us? >> absolutely. >> thank you. >> so i just want to start with thanking the howard family for having us here and to all our distinguished guests. i particularly wanted to thank you, dr. harris for allowing us to be a part of this process. i also want to thank jennifer nash who is joining me now who will help me. we have a quick power point we're going to share with you because i think it tells the story better than i ever could. but the first thing i want to share with you is that we have been engaged in doing some wonderful things around community police partnerships. we have been figuring out what needs to be done by having conversations with community, talking to noble, talking to law enforcement, having the conversations with neighbors talking to youth understanding what the issues are and then we take a look at the data and put all of those pieces together and we think about some strategies that we think make sense. so there are a couple of strategies. one i'm going to get to i'm not sure i'll get to all. i want to share first one and particularly these are being raised here today because these involve our faith partners. we do a lot of work with clergy all around the state. but we have one in particular called fugitive safe surrender. it was a program started by the united states marshals service when an officer was shot and killed during a routine traffic stop. as a result, the united states marshals came to the faith community and said we need you to help us. what we would like for you do is we would like for you to bring in folks who are wanted on misdemeanor, low level matters, let's see if we can clear up those matters. so if you would jennifer, we're going to walk you through some of that. so as we did fugitive safe surrender, we'll show you, we did it around the state. we began to do first a look at what we knew where the numbers how many warrants are we talking about, how many people were involved. we then began to look at communities that would help us and we started by going to the faith community and working with them to say, hey, listen, would you help us? and that brings me back to a comment that was just said moments ago, and one of the things that was said was that faith communities are not motivated by the issues as what you said. what we found is that when we knocked on the door, we said we need your help, we would like for you to help us and really get this ready, they actually opened up the door and began to work with us. so much so that we were able to help almost 18,000 people over a four-day period come into the church, meet and greet us and go through a process where their warrants were cleared up and resolved on the spot. we did it over a four-day period, thank you. it was 18 to date. we have 17,800 individuals. we know that approximately two-thirds of those individuals were male. most of them had two to three outstanding warrants and we were able to resolve them. i'll stop them and see if i can have -- >> so while jennifer keeps moving, i'll tell you about some of our other programs. and i'll stick to some of those in our faith partnerships because i really think that they really bring home how you can work together and then we'll get back to you when we can -- when the screen comes back up for us. the other programs that we have been able to establish, one is called the chaplinsy program. what we have been able to do is working with our local police departments, our established chaplincy programs where the chaplains work with community partners, particularly help young people who are encountering the juvenile justice system and figuring out ways to wrap themselves around that young person as well as their families to make sure that they get the support they need that they get the encouragement they need, so the chaplaincy program has been pushed by one of our legal departments in the vineland police department in particular and the chaplaincy group and we'll share that with you actually has the opportunity to travel around the state and working with departments to really look at how we can support families in the neighborhoods and on the grounds. so i think we're ready? okay. you can go to the next slide, please. i just want to share with you this slide here, fugitive safe surrender. the arrow is where we start right above the church. this particular slide is showing what we did in atlantic city at grace assembly of god. so next, please. we advertise. one of the things we found when we did this work is that people didn't trust us as law enforcement, so they wouldn't necessarily come out and turn themselves in and surrender. for the first half of the day, people would stand across the street from the church before they came in and they would wait for people to come back out. when they saw people came back out, they started to come back in. so that was one of the reasons why we began to do this. what was really important is that it is really through word of mouth. so we got it out there and the message, you'll see our new jersey transit telling the story for us. please, jennifer. of course, we also have worked in various communities, particularly our spanish speaking communities and making sure that everybody really understood that they could be a part of it based on the requirements of the program. >> over the past few years, special law enforcement program called safe surrender has seen 18,000 mostly nonviolent fugitives turn themselves in peacefully in a dozen cities. and how safe surrender changed lives. wanted for gun possession, after skipping with his probation officer. >> pretty dangerous situation. >> potentially dangerous for him and his family. >> i was afraid that probation parole would come and kick my door in. >> please take it back to your vehicle right now. >> the richardsons were among hundreds who came to what was called fugitive safe surrender, a u.s. marshals program run with state and local authorities to clear up standing arrest warrants. >> this opportunity is a cost saver to the courts, to law enforcement, and quite a help to the communities. >> it took place over four days. with judges attorneys and even -- all under one roof of a church. >> we didn't come to be hustled. we came to be helped right? >> the support of local leathery y clergy is a key part of the program. >> folks are coming because they trust the faith leaders. >> people also trust their outstanding arrest warrants will be treated favorably. mostly they're looking for peace of mind. dave had a warrant for theft. >> wake up in the morning you think about it think about it during the day worry about people recognizing your face. >> he came with his wife to get a fresh start. >> how it can destroy your marriage and your family when you have this heavyiness hanging over you. >> he was able to leave with probation. and after paying $589 in fines, tramon will no longer be living under the radar. to the marshals and police, the program eliminates risk to them. >> anytime a person surrenders it is one less car chase and we see this too often where somebody gets injured or killed as a result of a car chase. >> a handful of traffic violations. by the end of the day with a smaller than expected fine his tickets were cleared. >> that's what i got. >> over the past four days, more than a thousand people surrendered, clearing over 4,000 cases and only six of those people were arrested. >> so a little bit about fugitive safe surrender. less than one half of 1% of the people that we encounter are taken into custody and that's usually because they are wanted on a felony or an indictable matter which is outstanding. what it looks like in camden, the program was run in philadelphia a week or two before we began the program in camden, new jersey. we thought since they had a few hundred people that ours would be a little smaller. we actually had that many people waiting on line when the doors opened at the church. next. and that is bethany baptist church in newark new jersey. we had people in line four or five across and for blocks. next. reverend sores at first baptist in somerset was able to host this for us. and, again, that line actually wraps around the entire building. there were torrential rains one day. people were still there. people were also very enterprising. they began to sell umbrellas the next day, but they did wrap around. next please. grace assembly of god church. one of the things we needed to do in atlantic city is that although people initially surrendered here, one of the things we had to do in our program was to make sure that our court personnel actually in a different location and so when you see us in the church you know there is court personnel, we resolve cases there is law enforcement, we're doing the lookups, looking at the state and the federal databases, and so we then move folks. so the next slide please from this church, which you see, which is b to a, the convention center that agreed to host us and we brought in in thousands of people and resolved their warrants over a four-day period. next. the last one we did year before last was in jersey city. that's the jersey city armory. again, 4,700 people showed up in that four-day window allowing us to resolve tens of thousands of matters. then we were able to get featured on due process a little bit about the work and how we were talking about our community engagement and what communities thought were important. so i wanted to share that with you because that was a part of what we were asked to do is to talk about the role of law enforcement, how communities can be engaged. so there are a lot of different efforts we're working on. i thought this one might bring with you particularly since our faith partners really have been a tremendous asset to us and partners, and we simply brought the issue. and i think that's part of the dialogue and conversation that we have to have when you sit down and talk the issues and you're breaking bread together and understand what the issues are, i think together as a community, we really can make a difference in the lives of all of our communities. thank you. [ applause ] >> thank you. the way we tie in the video and the discussions you had from the attorney general's office is there are crimes that are committed. there are people who commit those crimes and people we want to be locked up. there are programs that address that. and i think the purpose of our lecture today and discussions that we have this is that we want to find a way for law enforcement to separate those two groups as opposed to putting the sheer physical presence and the look of a person as a predominant factor. and they're reacting to what is going on. i would like to take a very brief minute and tell you that when we fought we in america, we as african-americans fought for civil rights in the 1960s and the civil rights act which was one of the key pieces of legislation, along with the civil rights act came a section of law in title 42 of the united states code section 14-1414. that section allows investigations of police departments by the department of justice. and they have that investigation in cleveland. they have that investigation going on in philadelphia. they have one, i believe, in newark. they have had them in new orleans. i was the attorney of record representing the city of cincinnati in 2003. cincinnati had those investigations. the reason i raise that and i know that we all have seen attorney general -- former attorney general eric holder when he would address these issues. what was fought for in the '60s was a showing that the laws applied and protected all of us, equal protection. and when you listen to charles hamilton houston and thurgood marshall and talked about, it was equal protection of the laws. now the laws are written in a way that we understand they provide equal protection. and we are now saying that those laws are being used in a different way. and with that i would say that there are findings of unnecessary use of force excessive use of force discriminatory practices by the department of justice. and i know we're going to have some questions and answers. so before we talk about how it is that we depart and what our take aways are i would open up the floor to see if based on some of the thought provoking discussions we had had thus far, your own personal thoughts and educational experience and life experiences. are there any questions you would like to pose to the very talented panel that we have? please. we're asking that you step up to the microphone and if you would line up behind the microphone that would make it easier and would allow also the recording studios to pick that up. >> in light of the recent killing in south carolina what is your position about forcing, coercing convincing our congress to require all police to wear body cams? do you think it will help if they wear them? >> so i don't get you in any trouble with the attorney general, we're not going to put you on the spot with that one. >> thank you. i'll be brief and also i want to announce attorney walter madison, walter stand up. he's my co-counsel on the tamir case. great lawyer out of cleveland. and walter, chime in here, the preacher and the attorney general can't say a word or two. we push for that and michael brown's tragic killing in ferguson, missouri. the mike brown law which i pray and hope will happen because i think it does mack ake a difference and will be a fitting legacy for michael brown. let me quickly say this here. history happened this week in ferguson missouri. we in the house of god. and they say the ark is long but it bends towards justice. ferguson,s my, s mymissouri, they had three times as many people in that community come out and vote than they ever had in history. that's a direct response of our community saying we're going to do something about them killing our children. we have three african-american city commissioners out of ferguson missouri. that's history. and c-span is watching. that makes you applaud the individuals and so forth. to answer your question directly, i think cameras really are good because they let us know what happens makes it transparent. that's what our community wants. that's what we want more than anything. it helps the police officers if they didn't do anything wrong, they're exonerated right then. but when you have this cloud of suspicion because nobody saw him, it is questionable how you shoot our little brother or sister in the back can translate or correlate to your life being in danger, it just makes no sense to us. but i say ñ this in light of walter scott that we saw on video, so many things that we would never see on video. it is about a culture. it is about a culture. the video -- why do we need video cameras to make you do right? i keep hearing everybody say, you would agree, the majority of the police officers are good police officers. and i say i want to believe that. and i honestly say that. just like i want to believe the majority of young african-american men are good people. i want to believe that too. but i'm not just going to accept that all the police officers are good when all these good police officers see police misconduct and they don't come forward and say anything. that's when we have to say good policing. last thing, the guy -- the chief said we don't want you to throw a blanket over our police just for the acts of one police officer, ditto. we don't want you to throw a blanket over our young black and brown boys for the action of one black or brown boy. so what you want is exactly what we want. [ applause ] >> thank you for a really( wonderful discussion. my name is dr. marcia komen the coordinator for the hands up coalition dc. we're the organization that launched a major demonstration -- launched major demonstrations in front of the department of justice to demand that the department of justice release the civil rights reports. and obviously we were very unhappy with the results of those reports. but we did think it was important for the families to have that information so that they could process the fact that their government is not being responsible and holding police accountable for the deaths of our children. my son has been stopped by police over 30 times. and that is very common. if you ask most young black people how many times have you been stopped it is -- it is 20, 30 40 times. and he was a howard university student and his trauma was such that he had to drop out of howard for one year because of the anxiety and depression caused by being stopped by the police so many times. we are having a million moms march. we hope you can join us, on may 8th. we're also asking our brothers and our husbands to join the mothers as we take to the streets on march 9th to demand that the police stop -- >> may 9th. >> may 9th. to.b%qqsp'd the police stop stopping our children harassing our children sodomizing our children on the sides of the streets and stop killing our children. and the last point i wanted to make was in termsp, of your video i want to know when are?chut going to see police lined up in front of black churches and surrendering their badges. what i saw is the fact we have hypervigilance in the black community. people are being arrested for selling lucies or being arrested for walking in the middle of the streets. i want to know when will the police be arrested? thank you. [ applause ] >> will you please identify yourself and pose the question? >> sure. my name is mike evans, i serve as one of the social justice coordinators at metropolitan ame church in the district of columbia. what i heard today was very profound ando0s want to thank miss rice: for putting a real face and real moments of truth and pain and sadly agony to what has happened to her and her son and her family many times we hear all of us have heard about a 12-year-old boy, but we don't know. we didn't know his story we didn't know he was a helper. we didn't know he loved to swim. we didn't know he loved to make his family happy and proud. and when these things happen, you know we have to reflect on what that means to those families and to ourps own. a thing that struck me this morning before i left to come here is i had turned on the news, cnn c-span, and i was amazed at how quickly the media in collusion with the police had jumped from outrage indignation to blaming the victim once again for all that he had brought upon himself. well, he ran. he ran because he had x number of dollars in child support he was afraid he was going to get pulled in on. but, no, wait a minute there weren't any warrants out. yes, but it was more than we thought it was and on and on and on. we see these stories to justify the actions that are, you know, by the police and the occupied forces in our community through -- to justify and rationalize what they have done. but i'll be real quick. i'm very glad that we're here and we're talking about solutions, you know. we spend a lot of time with the recitation of the justices that have been placed upon us but i think we need to be talking about solutions. years ago i ran a legal aid program for catholic charities in chicago. we had -- we provided sentence -- excuse me -- >> i'm going to ask you one question. >> arrest expungements. >> we ask that you ask a question to our panel. >> arrest expungements, and tried to provide information to communities about what the criminal justice system is about. what types of programs -- public service programs information programs have you experienced and envisioned where the actors in the criminal justice system present to the community what they do how they interact, how they work with each other, and how they're supposed to be working for us? do we have anything in place that can help faith-based communities house those types of information services? >> sure. you know. one of the things that i didn't get a chance to get to is some of the youth development that we do, right. i talked a little bit about the data and the research and how we look at what is happening in communities. and so in this process we have something called the municipal planning board process. it is youth development boards. and so these boards actually meet with our local police departments, we meet at the local school boards, we might meet at the high school, but what we do, we bring both our justice system partners, as well as our social services together to really look at one, what do we know about the community? not just what we hear, what do we know? so we start with the data and then we begin to pull together both strategies looking at the policy level looking also at the programs that are available so that we can help families get access to the services because what we found is there are sometimes many services but our families don't know about the services, there is not this connection. there is no link between some of the resources and the good things that are happening and the families and the partners who need to make those things come together. so it is through that process that we have actually began to do a lot of work as we engage our partners, could be through grants, through the process i'm talking about and this youth development process, but we actually bring together on a regular basis, i don't mean once in a while in a quarter at least once a month, and in between we are meeting in small committees asking the same thing, how to connect partners to resources and how to link them and most importantly how to make sure we have better outcomes so that our families are successful. >> thank you. >> -- because it is not just -- we can't just wait. i've worked with miss moore for a number of years and she does great work. and she would do greater work if she weren't hamstrung by government red tape. that's just the reality of it. governments, their wheels turn slowly. she doesn't. she does yeoman's work. what i want to supplement is we have to create within the faith community itself the desire to get that information and we have to construct programs within the faith community itself so that we're not waiting for the heroes and the champions to fight through the red tape to get stuff to us so that part of what we're trying to do, in the healing community's project, is go to congregations and teach them what questions to ask, what information do you need, how can you get involved in the system and how can you get involved in responding to these partnerships with information and with leverage and not just be assigned the part by a government agency in a grand scheme of programs that they have put together without you and then come to you and say, here's your role. so there is a lot of work we have to do internally to develop that kind of program and not just simply wait for agencies to come to us and explain things to us. we have congregations all across this country who have resourceful people in them, who know the answers, and if we can empower them to give us the internal kind of leverage that we need, then we can have real partnerships. >> thank you. that's one of the issues that i thought we would discuss today. and that is what is the role in the black church. should the programs come from the government or should the programs come from the community and the community and the government work together? as i understand both what you've indicated and what miss moore is indicating that she tries you -- i say you -- the church will try, but sometimes red tape gets in the way. but if the church had its own initiatives, we're not looking for approval from the government, there is a role the church can do without governmental assistance. is that what i hear you saying? >> that's exactly what i'm saying. we had a state wide program in michigan on faith-based re-entry. we had great stuff going on from the upper peninsula to detroit to grand rapids. and then they got a new governor. and the new governor said, we're not going to put any more nun in the community-based re-entry programs. we're going to expand the department of corrections in michigan and run our own programs. and so all the money came off the table and all of a sudden the re-entry programs started to die off. why? because we were depending on the government to fund the community-based programs. what we have got to do in the faith community is to recognize that we have capacity. and that we have ideas. and we have people. we just haven't been able to generate the motivation. that's why i'm running around the country saying we got faces now. we have got samaria rice, tamir rice, i went to ferguson in december and talked with people. we got people like tracy blackman. we got faces now. she's a pastor who is pastor the young people. people say, the preachers aren't leading in ferguson. they aren't leading in ferguson. the young people are and pastor tracy blackman and pastor tim are pastoring them. he pastored students from fiske and abts on the front lines. you don't have to be out front. you can help the young people gain a sustained voice and not just stand up there and make speeches and turn everything into your personal platform. no names. so there has to be -- there has to be capacity building and energy channeling within the faith community itself and then we're in a position to partner with government, but not dependent on the administration and the administration change to make sure that this stuff keeps going. >> thank you. >> professor? >> alex gresham bullock, i'm a professor in the school of law here. i'm a tax professor and estate planning as i said to the panelists. when i spoke with them earlier, i'm not -- i'm not dealing with these issues as a lawyer on a daily basis. in other words, i'm not in the weeds on this issue. i'm not even in the tall grass as a lawyer dealing with this issue. i deal with this issue on my front lawn and in my back yafrmtdyard. i have a 30-year-old son i said to the group i am astounded that my -- my husband and i raised our children, my son is 31 years old, tall, strapping black guy well built, good looking and we started quizzing him early on. my husband used to be the u.s. marshal for the district of columbia. we used to quiz him early on about his interactions with the police. to this day i'm astounded that he has never had an uninnovatevited interaction with the police. it is amazing in the district of columbia. that i tell you because it gives me reason for hope that we can have that in communities across this city and across the country. and my son grew up at a time where in -- up in northwest d.c. the second district apparently had a philosophy i don't know if i would hold the police department, but the officers in the neighborhood knew the kids. they knew us. i think my husband made a difference, they knew the kids because he was active. so i also think we as parents have a role to play in how we deal with the police department as well. now -- >> i ask you, they're telling me they're going to cut our time down. >> sure, my question -- >> we have to pose a question. >> i got a question. >> to our panel because the cameras are going to shut off on us shortly. >> you answered a large part of it in this dialogue but what you showed us is a snapshot of the difference your community and faith program with u.s. marshals service made in your community. my question is has that spread to other communities, related to that are there coalitions with other communities in other states where you all talk to each other, so the folks here in d.c. maryland and virginia could know the success you had up in new jersey so that this spreads? >> thank you. >> so it has spread for us and other communities. people would find what we were doing and they would come and visit with us. and so we would actually have other jurisdictions come and actually help us you know, in terms of our own thinking about it, but they also really wanted information because they wanted to do the same thing. they wanted to get those programs together and actually figure out how to do it. but i think to your question, is there a network, are we doing this across the board? is there somewhere in the country. i don't think so i think that's why we're delighted to be part of this conversation because there is a lot that we can do, i think if we were to connect the dots. there are other programs that are happening. there are faith programs. there are the communities who are doing it on their own thinking through their own strategies, but how do we connect together not just in new jersey, not just here in the district, but across the country. so we certainly would be open to continuing to dialogue to figure out how we can make those bridges and connect them. not just locally, but throughout the country. it is very needed. >> thank you. >> my name is audrey mcdowell. i'm an associate minister at east friendship baptist church. my question is, in light of the videotapes we have seen, you know, where they are shooting people and basically just leaving them on the ground to die, i would like to know what are the legal requirements for police regarding giving life saving means when they have shot somebody. in the walter scott case, they lied and said that they had provided, you know cpr and there is no evidence of that on the video. what are they legally required to do? or are they supposed to just leave them there to die so as not to mess with evidence or whatever? >> i was going to ask mr. crump who stepped out for a minute, to handle that question. [ inaudible ] >> mr. crump, the question was posed, the question is -- repose your question. >> in light of seeing all the videos where the police are shooting people and basically just leaving them there to die, what are the legal requirements for police regarding using life saving means, you know when they have shot somebody? are they supposed to just leave them there so as not to disturb evidence or supposed to, you know attempt to save their life? in the walter scott case they lied and said they used cpr and there is no evidence of that on the video. >> in the same with tamir rice can i have my co-counsel walter madison address this really briefly? >> sure. >> we deal with the same issue in cleveland. >> i'll be very direct with that response. each state is governed by their own commanders for training and qualifications. one of the things that probably should be done and bring us some cohesiveness on that issue is there be a mandate, nationwide because humanity is the real aim. and as part ofi] the earlier question, about the body cameras, wonderful idea but there should be no requirement for a person to have the simple humanity to say that child or person wants to get home safely just as much as i do as the officer. so in the spirit of humanity the standard should be the same. some states require and give -- make it mandatory that they do that. california is one. san francisco they have the -- all the first aid equipment in the vehicle. ohio is just poor in that regard. very very poor. and we see the lack of humanity in that video as attorney crump referenced earlier. >> thank you. >> the only other thing i would add to that is i would think we have two civil lawyers who are involved in these type of civil rights cases as prosecution civil matters, but if a video shows a live person on the ground injured with no aid administered by law enforcement does that do anything for damages? >> absolutely. i think one of the things we're vetting in tamir rice's case as the new york times wrote very vividly, this whole notion this kid is laying on the ground, dying in the snow, and the officers are kind of moping around, they're looking for change on the ground. and it is just hard to watch when you think -- you know you just shot him but you don't do anything to help him. >> i would think as an issue that if a jury were to receive this case one of the issues that lawyers would argue is that the pain and suffering was enhanced by the fact that there was no aid injured. one of the questions we talked about earlier is that -- how is it that you caused society to recognize these issues if passing of laws doesn't do it? and the answer was -- >> and i don't know exactly what -- where we -- and because, you know johnnie cochran said something deep to me he said that you know he lost a case where he had 50 witnesses. you know. and it is true because perception becomes reality. and he also said, you know you go up there with your client and the only thing -- the judge is -- he dismiss you and nobody know about it you better tell the media and the world what is going on so when they go and dismiss your case, he got some repercussions from the community and so forth. so that's what we try to do and thank god that i want to believe the media is finally starting to listen to all these black lives being taken with no consequence. i mean i can go state by state and give you ten in every state and i know because we representing most of them. >> yes, sir. >> good afternoon. my name is aaron king. i'm a member of the macedonia baptist church. organizational or cultural change within the police department. and i think we all know that organizational culture is not established at the bottom. it is established at the top. in ÷ effort to change the culture of an organization we have seen historically one method that has been effective, especially for african-americans in the civil rights movement was economic withdrawal. my question to you today is centered around the idea of what i'm going to call economic corrective action. this would be established via a mandate that would compromise four things. when a county executive, legislator or mayor and police chief take office, it is mandated that within three years they reduce the number of deaths via law enforcement by 50%. if they don't reach that goal within three years, they're terminated. in addition to that, they do not receive any pension. that's the first thing. the second thing would be the mayor and the police and, you know, legislators who are at the top of an organization, once they have looked at the previous year and they have not -- they see, okay we had 100 deaths we have three years to cut that by 50%. if they don't reach that goal within the first year their salaries get reduced by 20%. once we get to g member of the law enforcement community, their reduced by 2% and then after each death it keeps going up, 2%, 4% 6%, et cetera, et cetera. the next thing -- that's one, two -- the third thing would be -- >> let me ask you a question because we're trying to get the expertise up ear. >> sure. i understand the theory that you're giving us. can you pose a question -- >> economic corrective action with mandates that are backed up -- >>6z without the details as at( concept. what i want to doa get past the numbers -- >> the concept -- >> -- to the concept, which is critical. he'll talking about reincent advising the way in which we reward law enforcement in the criminal justice system. okay? so that i serve on the executive session on community corrections at harvard university, it's a think tank where we work on how do we redo probation, parole. community corrections. so do we incentivize parole officers by how many people they trail, nail and jail or do we incentivize parole officers based on how many people don't resit straight? do we incentivize police departments based on the number of arrests they make or do we incentivize police departments based on approximate public safety becoming better in the community? okay? through the practice of deescalation practices that attorney crump was making. so the concept is brilliant because what it attacks at its core is the current incentivizing of overarrests, overincarceration overincarceration, escalation of dangerous situations. all of those things right now we reward. and what we need to to is we need to reward the exact opposite. >> the reason i thought it was a concept -- [ applause ] >> the reason i thought it was a concept that it would be an issue to raise is that many budgets of police departments are based upon those raw number of arrests. so that's why i thought in terms of discussing the concept i thought you had some -- i think people may disagree with you on the numbers but the concept is an issue. >> yes, ma'am. >> my name is cynthia ward, i'm an howard engineering alum. i didn't have a request, i had a request and i'm going to defer my question to a howard student who got up at the cutoff point and let her ask the question. my question was going to be as we close out i would like to have a fervent honest sincere prayer around these concepts and issues for resolution particularly around ending the mortal victims in the moment in the movement. i'm sick of seeing the victims. and healing and those types of things, again, i'm going to defer my question to a student. >> although she says she is an engineer that was a lawyer move. >> yeah. >> yes, ma'am. >> good afternoon. everyone. and this could be for any of the panel. i'm actually a wesley theological seminary student and i'm all for prayer i believe prayer changes things, but i believe especially in this time and day and age that action is necessary. i just feel that there is -- i guess my question would be what would be the danger of not doing anything when especially as young black people you see that when you do something it produces either little to no results or negative results. so what would be the motivation for taking action? >> ms. moore. >> well, you know, i think two things. one is you know, there are obviously a lot of things that you want to accomplish and things that you've done and it happens to be a national issue that many young people are looking at. and one of the things that we struggle with quite frankly, is making sure that we have youth voice in what we do. a lot of things happen at the decision level, you know. how can we get those voices which i believe are the authentic voices and really a part of the equation and if you exclude those voices you're never going to get to it. so i would ask that you make sure that both you and others and particularly other young people are at the table and that your voices are heard bus if your voices are not heard we don't get the full story. how do we get this right without the full story without understanding what are the needs, what are the issues and houks we help? right. so it's absolutely critical. but i also this i that there is hope and that you do see -- you can see change. you know, we experienced that change a lot because we're working in the community, we're working with young people i get to hear the stories of transformation and i mean real transformation and that's what drives us. that's what keeps us motivated. we see young people tell the story. there is one this particular, i will share with you, it's a group called youth build that we've worked with and put a lot of effort and energy as well as funding behind but the transformation of those young people who tell their own story is really where it is. really where those changes are. so if you wait i will make sure that i share that with you could you can see it. but we've got to have your voice otherwise we're they ever going to get this right. >> thank you. >> same spirit as sister moore. we are seeing things change. attorney crump just mentioned the fact that in ferguson missouri, where 8% of all blacks voted in municipal elections up until this year 8%, we got three city council people. that was young people stepping up and doing that. the fcc last august, we had three victories in the four-day period in august of 2013 when the fcc capped the interstate phone call rate for federal institutions, in new york stop and frisk wags judged to be illegal and when attorney general holder announced the sentence reduction. we've got the smartest sentencing act that's right before congress right now, we've got the second chance act that's coming up. we have a momentum going right now that you can either -- the only people fighting this are the folks making money off it and basically that's the criminal justice system where it's incentivized improperly like brother king said, especially prosecutors, okay? and then the companies that are making money off of the slave labor in the prisons and the private prison companies. they are the only people that are fighting this. i was at a summit two weeks ago the two keynote speakers on changing this stuff were cory booker and flute begin grip. okay? there is bipartisan support for this stuff. the only people who are fighting it are the ones who are making money off of the current system and then the only reason that's not moving faster is that more of us haven't owned this as an issue. >> thank you. we have one final question. please introduce yourself and let us know what your question is, please. >> all right. thank you. hello. my name is isisatu young. thank you so much for your time. on behalf of my classmates at howard university i would like to thank you very much. >> thank you for coming. >> thank you. my question is pertaining to the community policing. this is a conversation that i've had in one of my classes. do you think yes or no this is the question in class that community policing, like the -- the relationship between black communities and police departments can be mended? do we think that and that's what our professor asked us. and the request he that i want to ask you all is do you think that it's a good idea for us to move forward with -- with implementing community policing -- increasing community police structures in especially black communities? do you think that it's a good idea despite the tact that we haven't received any kind of repayment for police brutality against our people? how can we really open up and trust just willingly without receiving some kind of repayment? and i know it may seem unrealistic to have our hand out, i really like the idea that i heard about having police turn in their badges just from where i stand a question that boils inside of me is would i want to engage in community policing, having police officers in my community because right now where i'm from this bedsty we see police officers in our community all the time but i don't believe it's part of the community policing structure and if it is we haven't been informed. i'm just wondering is it really a good idea where the psychological issues passed down from generation to generation, can we trust the police as black people? you know, we haven't received something that says hey, we surrender, like cops surrendering to us. no one was done that but we're getting down on our knees and surrendering to allow them willingly into our neighborhood. it's better to have a relationship than none at all, i guess, but what do you guys think? [ applause ] >> sorry about the microphone. i know we're supposed to touch it here but he touched it already. >> hold this. >> so i just want to share with you a story and i showed you a little bit about fugitive safe surrender we didn't have time to walk you through it. we bring people who are all wanted, right, with hundreds of those of us who are in law enforcement and the courts and the judicial system and coming together and what happens at that moment when people are there to really help is this very miraculous and even transformative need to help one fore and we talked earlier about humanity, and in that scenario what you saw is you8-vjkó# running for hot chocolate because people were waiting outside in the cold, you saw people waiting outside in the cold throwing all their change on the ground because they wanted to get in and you had people coming together in a way that you have to witness, you really have to witness this process that we talked about. when that young man told you he had a new destiny, he meant that. it really was because the church was there and you have to understand that the clergy is also there they're not just opening the door what's happening you have a guidance there, spiritual guidance, social services there you're so the church then becomes this hub of great things that can happen. once you witness those kinds of things you understand that it is possible and that all things are possible. on the second part of your question i just want to flip it just a little bit because one of the things you know, i've ton some work in the past with drug courts they would say the operative word this drug court is court and the operative word this community policing is policing, but there's another piece so that that i would challenge you to help us think about and that is what is the role of community in community policing? that is our question to decide. what is our role in that and how do you do it? i think that's what you're saying. what is the role of community in community policing? that's something that we have to sit down and really work out together what that looks like and how we then determine what happens in the neighborhoods and have control and have a place where the same mutual resp ekt that we see in our initiatives happens. you know one of the things we say all the time, and we expected nothing less in all of the times that we is it this event and where we had thousands of people, we're moving a lot of volunteers it's a tremendous effort, take a lot of work. at no point did we have one incident of any vandalism, of any trouble. that's because we all walked through those doors of that house of worship knowing that we were there to come and help one another and that is where it turns and that's where you see humanity. don't give up. help us figure out how we can make this happen so you too, can see it. [ applause ] >> professor, i know that you have put some thought into it and i want to save the last issue for you and you get the closer remarks. professor, as our last comment from the panel would you -- did you understand -- do you remember the young lady's question? >> yeah, i did. i did. i have a lot of of respect for ms. moore's comment because one of the issues that we're working on at harvard on the community corrections piece is precisely what is the role of the community and there are several of us, myself, mike nail who is over probation and parole for the state of georgia, sandra smith who is on faculty at california berkley we're working on defining the community's role. because right now community policing doesn't have a role for the community. it's one of those initiatives they've said this is what we want you to do, as opposed to negotiating with us because there are not a lot of people like ms. moore who will say we really want to hear from you. okay. not on the government side. so we've seen examples, however of effective partnerships and i will just point to us in the city of boston massachusetts, between july of 1995 and november of 1997 there was a 29-month period without a single juvenile homicide. 29 months, no juvenile homicides. and it was a partnership between the community, the faith community, law enforcement probation and parole and part of -- and this goes back to the comment earlier about changing the culture of law enforcement. what changed some of the culture of law enforcement in boston was the catholic church. because a lot of the white cops in boston were roman catholic and the roman catholic cardinal of boston bought into the strategy. so it wasn't just about mobilizing the black church, but it was mobilizing congregations faith communities in which law enforcement officers served to help them get a different understanding of what their role might be. you had policemen in boston climbing the steps of the hancock building whatever the big building is in boston, i don't know boston that well. boston is hancock, isn't it? even boston oregon chicago. they're climbing the systems of the hancock building, getting job applications for young people to have summer jobs cops were doing that. but it same because the faith community of the law enforcement officers themselves were part of the strategy. so this isn't a black problem. okay? this is a community wide problem. so our communities need to be strengthened, their communities need to be transformed and we know what works it's just a matter of having the will to get it done. >> thank you. as i turn this back over to quame i would like to end with a quote from charles hamilton houston that i think addresses these issues and the role of the lawyer on several rights issues. he says, and i quote, a lawyer is either a social engineer or he is a parasite on society. a social engineer was a highly skilled perceptive sensitive lawyer who understood the constitution of the united states and knew how to explore its uses in the solving of problems of local communities and in better ring conditions of the underprivileged citizens. that quote i believe was around 1929. we are still looking at those issues. as i turn this back over to you quame, i think we've had a panel discussion today on issues that are relevant. even if you to not have children, if you watch the news you see what's going on in our world and i think ms. rice, the fact that we were able to put a face and a mother's thoughts and a mother's pain before this audience has been helpful, and people understanding that this is not a theoretical or perceptive issue it's a real issue and it affects people. quame, before we turn it back over to brother crump would you like to -- thank you. [ applause ] also tomorrow senate foreign relations chair bob corker would like congress to review any iranian nuclear deal. he has introduced a bill that will make that a reality and he will be working on that at 2:15 p.m. >> next representatives from the defense and state departments discuss u.s. missile defense, it is just over two hours. i want to say thanks to our friends at boeing that are making it possible for us to hold this conference and next steps and missile defense. when i first started in think tank land about now 15 years ago i think every think tank every month held a conference on missile defense. everybody was focused on it and over the last ten years you know, our focus has really shifted to other things. we've become to focused on things like insurgence wree insurgency warfare, et cetera, and there hasn't been this national perspective to look at role that missile defense is going to have to play. you look at all of the kind of troubling advanced technology developments in the world and they all kind of come around to this point. we need to be able to respond and have confidence that we can still operate successfully in this country when we could very well be attacked by missiles. that's just a reality. it's not a happy reality to talk about, but it's real and it's part of what we're to go here today is to learn where we are. where are we in this work together? i want to say thanks to tom for you for heading up our effort tom care co just joined us he has been with us as a senior fellow for the last year but we twisted his arm and offered and asked him to stay with us permanently with this. i want to say thank you to him. he is going to launch this effort for real. obviously we've got excellent panelists that are with us, but the kwaulity they will give us and versely related to our edge gauge: you have to be ak sieve here and pull out of them all the insights we know they have for us today. tom, let me turn it to you to get this started for real. thanks, everybody. >> thank you dr. hamre. again, i'm tom car co and i think we've got a great line up of three panelists today. i think dr. hamre was alluding to some of what i was going to say how the tenure and discussion on missile defense was changed over the past couple decades. over ten years has passed of course since missile defense mail operational in alaska and i think during that time as missile defense has gone from infancy to adolescence you've got a lot more bipartisan and much more widespread support. it's no longer as divisive an issue, it's a question of how much missile defense we can afford and what kinds and what priorities and what balance we put into it. so this is an exciting time for it there's a lot going on in the missile defense world. you are going to hear over the next several hours over the next three panels about both homeland and regional missile defense and also technological and other steps we can be taking along that -- along those lines. our first panel is going to be on policy and operations, our second is on international dimensions and third on through future directions. i will be directing traffic. first up we have deputy assistant secretary of defense elaine bunn followed by missile defense agency deputy director drig deer general ken todorov. >> i do need that csis continuing to have in the forefront of civil discourse on defense issues and security issues. i find that could be the case whether it's their engagement with international partners whether it's the project on nuclear issues which is near and dear to my heart or events like this one. i have been asked to focus on the policy aspects of missile defense. that is really, i think, to set up a framework for the discussions throughout the afternoon. part of that means starting with basics so that we're all speaking of it in the same terms or at least know when we're not speaking of it in the same terms. for those of you who are, deep, deep into missile defense please forgive the basics here. the u.s. i think it's clear as john hamre just said that the united states as well as our deployed forces, our allies our partners face a number of threats around the world from literally thousands of ballistic missiles. those missiles can be short range, medium range intermediate range long range. icbm kind of range. people that distinction in mind as we talk about the policy. what that means is that we're pursuing a variety of missile defense capabilities for two missions. first and highest priority is for defending the united states against limited attacks by countries such as north korea and iran. and then the second is defending against regional missile threats to u.s. forces, allies, and partners and then also enabling our allies and partners to defend themselves against those threats. so keep those two different missions if mind, if you would. for both the homeland and the regional defense missions, our policy and strategy have to take into account uncertainties, uncertainties in the development of the -- of threat capabilities and uncertainty with regard to technological and fiscal constraints as we develop missile defenses. so a lot of uncertainties in both -- both those categories. the policy goals of homeland and regional missile defense are different, and sometimes you hear discussions that mix and mingle the two, but let me lay out very clearly what they are. for homeland missile defense we are trying to defend against the whole range against all of the long range ballistic missiles that threaten the united states from north korea and potentially from iran. we are not, let me remind you, designing our homeland defense to defend against russia and china and their much larger, much more sophisticated ballistic missile ars nals. in the regional context where there are thousands of adversaries, short medium and intermediate range missiles, more at the short range, fewer at the medium and fewer still at intermediate range but still collectively thousands of ballistic missiles. what we are trying to do is -- is to defend against some of those. we know that we will not be able to defend against all of them. we just can't buy enough -- we can't buy enough intercepters for that. what can regional missile defenses going to do if you're not going to say i will be able to shoot down every one of those short, medium and intermediate missile. so regional missile defense can help dee fang the coerce i have value of ballistic missiles. it can provide some protection and defend against cheap shots. it can defend against some number of those regional ballistic missiles and it can make sure that adversaries don't get a free ride, thinking that if they shoot it will get through. regional -- i have to emphasize this. we had a discussion of it around lunch earlier w[ttoday. regional defense is only a part of a broader mic of mix of capabilities. it has come into the forefront again and i think you will hear more about this this afternoon, but missile defense is not the silver bullet it's part of a mix of capabilities for dealing with ballistic missiles. on the regional side we are focused on developing capabilities that are mobile that are relocateable, that you can surge where they're needed as crises build. so, in other words, you are a he not going to have enough everywhere all the time. all right? regional combat tant commanders want -- they want more and more and more and there will always be -- these are always be low density density, high demand assets. let me go back to homeland defense and talk a bit about the threats and what do we see out there. the threats to the u.s., to u.s. territory, from north korea and potentially iran what we are -- we are trying to stay ahead of that threat. to be early and stay ahead of it. north korea has conducted three nuclear tests, is seeking to develop longer range ballistic missiles capable of delivering nuclear weapons to the united states. they continue their effort to bring the road mobile kno 8 icbm to operational capacity. they paraded it several times in parades, up to six missiles in those parades. operational. again, the reliability of an untested kno 8 is likely to be very low. all right. if we were going to deploy a missile we would have wanted to have tested it. north korea hasn't yet tested a kno 8. they have used their tipedon 2 which is used to put satellites into after bit and some of those technologies are amicable to long range missiles but they have not tested that kno 8. while the availability of their long range missile is likely low, the issue really is how much risk is the u.s. willing to accept when it comes to defending the u.s. against a country like north korea where our confidence -- or maybe i should say our lack of confidence in our understanding of north korea's leadership and what their decision making calculus is really i think, motivates a lot of our high priority on homeland missile defense. turning to iran, iran has not yet deployed an inter continental ballistic missile. it does have space launch vehicles. a number of folks speculate that they have the motivation and desire to be able to deter the u.s. and allies and that that provides them along with their space capabilities means and motivation to bring to fruition an icbm. i would note that if the negotiations that will be concluded by the end of june are fruitful and we come to agreement on the just agreed nuclear framework then its ballistic missiles would not be nuclear armed. and that's a good thing. the u.s. homeland today is it has defenses to protect us against icbm attacks from north korea, the kno 8 and from iran if they can make it to an icbm capability. o to ensure that we can stay ahead of the threat, and, again that's the policy on homeland defense, early to need, stay ahead, don't want to take chances on those two actors. to ensure that we can stay ahead of that threat we're continuing to strengthen our homeland defense posture and invest in technologies that better enable us to address evolution of threats in coming decades. so this is over a longer term. that means continued improvement to the ground-based mid course defense system the gmd system, including enhancing performance of the ground-based intercepters the gbi's and deployment of new sensors. we're on track if you look at some of the changes that have been made in that gmd system, we're on track to deploy an additional 14 intercepters. this was the announcement that secretary hagel made in march of 2013 that we would deploy an additional 14 inter epters in alaska and those along with the 30 that are already deployed in alaska and in california would improve the protection against both north korea and iranian threats as they emerge. late last year we also deployed a second forward based discriminating radar in japan and that's operating today thanks in large part to the amazing work of the japanese government as well as to mda. that radar is important for homeland defense but it's also important for regional defense. talk about regional defense in a moment. this year's president's budget request i think reflects that highest priority on homeland missile defense. it reflects the commitment to modernizing the gmd system, moving toward more reliable, more effective you will hear for about this from general ken todorov in a minute. the new radar when it is deployed this alaska will have persistent sensor coverage against -- and improved discrimination capabilities against north korea. it also -- this year's budget also continues the redesign, the funding for the redesign of the kill vehicle for the ground based intercepters. there had been some problems in the past, kind of those are identified, the test in june of last year showed that the changes made for the gbi's would make that system more successful. so it's back fitting those on to existing intercepters but also the redesigned kill vehicle that not only gives you better performance and discrimination capability but also will be easier to build, easier to maintain, easier to upgrade than the previous versions were. let me turn now to regional missile defense and what is it that we see as the threats there. north korea besides the threats to the homeland also poses a substantialú missile threat. its conducted a number of short-range ballistic missile launches in the recent past and also has medium range missiles, the scud c and the nodong that can threaten further -- further allies and u.s. forces in the region. they also -- their efforts to produce -- not only produce but to market their ballistic missiles raises broader concerns about ballistic missile technology proliferation. regional threats from the middle east iran and syria have regional ballistic missiles today. in fact, iran has the largest inventory of ballistic missiles in the region and is capable of striking targets throughout -- not only throughout their region but 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europe we are continuing to implement the european face adaptive approach, we're doing that in close collaboration with nato. they are -- nato is developing an advanced network of sensors and intercepters on land and sea. since 2011 the u.s. has operated the forward based radar in turkey and maintained sea based missile defense presence in europe. we're on track to deploy aegis assure in romania in may of this year and to send two additional aegis bmd destroyers to join the donald cook and the uss ross that are already in spain. so we have have four aegis destroyers that are deployed in spain. they're multi-mission ships, i think you all know that bmd is not the only mission of aegis ships, their amazing capabilities and so they are in great demand, whether it's in europe or elsewhere. president's budget also supports the aegis assure that is to be deployed in poland in the 2018 time frame and the development of the sm 32 a interceptor that will be deployed both on land and at sea. when we have that capability and the other aegis destroyers in europe we will have the u.s. -- the u.s. donation to european missile defense will indeed extend bmd coverage to all european territory. that's not to say that the u.s. is doing it all with regard to nato missile defense, our allies are also making significant contributions. romania, spain and turkey are -- obviously are hosting missile defense systems and providing security for external parts of those facilities. poland beyond just hosting the second aegis ashore site in the 2018 time frame has announced its intention to buy about $10 billion worth of advanced air and missile defense capabilities. the u.s. patriot system is a finalist in that competition for poland's acquisitions and several other allies are also in the process of considering the purchase of air and missile defense capabilities. some have combat ant ships that they can -- with sensors that can be upgraded, theúñ$t netherlands andx9g4aqiu?f$qw2óbíyj[y>#l are in that7 category. committed pac gibr(6dznzgv as pt!,9b)ô3 ó@ of nato'sj7fmdé 6j is that homeland on regional missile defense? it's both because gaum is u.s. territory. we have a thad battery there that we deployed during the 2013 cycle of north korean provocations and it remains there. the strong bilateral an alliances that we have in this regional with japan south korea and australia also play a role in the effective missile defense capabilities there. japan very far along on its own missile defense capability. they also their own aegis bmd ships and the standard missile 3 intercepters, pac 3 batteries early warning radars sophisticated command and control systems, they're upgrading two of our class aegis destroyers to bmd certification schedule for 2018 or 2019, i believe, and they also host two of our missile defense radars. they are -- they are becoming a critical partner for international cooperation as well. one of our most significant cooperative efforts in co-development is with the advanced version of the sm 3, the 2 a, and that is being produced in japan. south korea is -- obviously has an immediate proximate stake in preventing missile strike from north korea. we've worked closely with south korea to ensure that as an alliance we can maintain the capacity to do that. i've already talked about some of the things we bring to south korea. patriot pac 3 batteries to defend both our forces deployed there as well as south korean forces, but south korea is also taking steps to enhance its own air and missile defense including sea and >ie/çland-based sensors, upgrading its patriot missiles and also per suing its on indigenous korean air and missile defense capability. u.s. and australia long cooperation partnership on missile defense research and development, post notably with regard to sensors. in the middle east we have robust missile defense presence including land and sea-based assets deployed there. that's in addition to our efforts to work with allies to build their own capabilities to defend themselves. strong -- we have a strong relationship with israel on missile defense. that was the action officer in 1986 -- '6 for the very first agreement we had with israel on cooperative missile defense research and development. it has just advanced and advanced over the years. they now have a comprehensive architecture going from iron dome to david sling weapons women to the aer row weapons system and a lot of that is in conjunction with both missile defense agency and then operational koops with the united states. we're working with a number of gulf cooperation council countries on missile defense, including supporting their purchases through foreign military sales programs of capabilities. uae is procuring thad, the first delivery of that is expected later this year. that's in addition to their earlier purchase of patriot which has already been delivered. saudi arabia is in the process of upgrading their existing patriot pac 2 batteries to the pac 3. could you kuwait is purchasing patriot pack 3. qatar has joined the patriot partners late last year and that as the gcc states begin to field more capable systems we -- and gcc partners are trying to work together more on the integration of capabilities across the region, including especially sharing of sensor data among those countries. technology development, let me just say one word about that about the need to continue to look ahead. sometimes when buckets are tielt and you're trying to prioritize, very high priorities, homeland missile defense regional missile defense, it is the advanced technology, your seed corn that gets cut, but we do have to balance the investment priorities to be sure that we do continue to look at advanced technologies that can help us be more effective and efficient and respond to emerging threats. i know you're going to get more on that from rich matlock so i don't belabor the point. all of that is really just a very brief summary of the policy strategy and priorities that you will see in what others are going to talk about in more detail today. i know that ken todorov will talk talk about budgets and programs and frank rose who will be on the second panel can not help himself he will talk a lot about allied missile defense and he has been quite a stall worth in those efforts. i don't want to steal all their fund thunder but i want to close by noting that we've made a lot of progress on missile defense in the last several years, but we really do have to constantly reassess the mix of missile defenses as well as the coal of missile defense in the broader set of capabilities that we bring to bear on dealing with ballistic missile threats in the world. i think -- i think the budget for all of you here from the hill, i think the president's budget that we've submitted to you does reflect the policy, strategy and priorities that i've just laid out here. so thank you for having me here today. i look forward eventually to questions. [ applause ] good afternoon everybody. as tom said my name is ken todorov i'm the deputy director of the missile defense agency. it's an honor to be here today and include this dialogue with you, dr. hamre through for the invitation, tom, thanks for your work on getting everyone here. on behalf of the 8,000 or so employees of the missile defense agency and my boss vice admiral jim searing thank you for allowing mda to be here and talk about our priorities, about the work that we're doing, the very important work that we're doing near term and into the future to advance the course and the cause for missile defense. what i intend to do today is give you an operational perspective on the world of missile defense because i'm oon operator. i'm sort of a unique animal i'm not an engineer, we've got a lot of hugely bright people who are engineering neer's, i'm not an ak acquisition officer, which i'm glad i'm not an acquisition officer some days given the difficulties of that enterprise. but i am an operator. i come from an operations background and i'm a pilot and in 2009 i came to the united states northern command headquarters in colorado springs. it's a wonderful place to work and that's where i really got into, as they say, missile defense. i was the deputy director of operations there and the that officer's job is to be the point man or point woman for the combat tant commander for the ground based mid course defense system. i've been involved with missile defense ever since that day and i've come to love this mission and the people who work it. i want to thank all of you for whatever your role is in this dialogue. it's an important role regardless of what you're to go whether you're here from the press, if you're here from the hill whether you're hear from foreign partners or government it's a team effort to be sure. so thanks for what you do and we're glad to be part of that team at mda. as i said, i'm a pilot so i like to rely on videos to make my points, simple kind of guy and i'm also a military officer as you can see so no self respecting mill staer officer can get by without a little powerpoint so that's how i'm going to walk you through my presentation today, show you a few short video clips and make some points about the video you see. tylerer, my assistant over here if we can roll the very first video, please. ♪ >> i didn't say i was good at powerpoint, i just said that i like to use it. ♪ ♪ >> okay. i show you that video for a number of reasons. the threat is real in c#ç minds and i had the benefit every morning when i get to work opening up an intelligence book and i see what's going on in various places around the world. i can tell you that it's real and the threat is increasing both in quantity and it's increasing in quality of our adversaries. as elaine said we aim to stay ahead of that threat in everything that we do. it's vitally important that we do. in north korea, the kno 8 as elaine mentioned is something that we're very concerned with. that regime is very unpredictable. last night they had another unannounced short range test of some of their systems. they are not resting on their laurels. in iran dia assessments as early as this shear yooer there could be a space launch from iran. as you all know those could be translated to an icbm. iran has the largest short and medium range inventory of ballistic missiles in the reechblngen. clearly the( threat is real and something that we take very seriously. next video, please. ♪ >> today's bmds, it's credible, reliable and i can tell you from the war fighter perspective, having been there we have confidence in this system to defend our nation in both the homeland and regional interests around the globe. we have confidence in that system. now, we've got a shot doctrine that's set up to deal with some of the issues that the system may have, but that's why the shot doctrine is what it is. i won't get into what the shot doctrine is but i can tell you we have confidence and the war fighter has confidence from the operational p. perspective to deal with the threat. the key will be to continue to outpace that threat as we go. as elaine rightly mentioned a point that i always like to make thereabout this system is it's not designed to be sort of a stand-alone catch all system in and of itself, it's part of a larger continuum of capabilities. that the war fighter brings to bear both offensivelys7 andfñr' this case defensively. we have to continue to look at the system that way and not as a -- some kind of a fly catcher or catcher's mitt, i've heard a lot of ajs used when talking about the ballistic missile defense stim. it's part of a larger war fighter tool kit. next, please. ♪ >> apologies for the little bit of issues with the videos. we'll get it straightened out. ♪'c ♪ >> so i don't want to belabor that video. all of you in this room are probably intimately familiar with the ground based mid course defense system but what i do want to talk about are priorities and the things that we're working on in the very near term. we've got a flight test coming up in december, ctv control test video, ctv 02 plus we're going to ring out a discrimination in this based on the results of the last flight test, we want to continue to q outpace the threat. that flight test will be a huge hallmark for the ground based mid course defense system. we're going to continue to work on reliability issues of the kill vehicle and the interceptor, testing our alternative divert thrusters, testing end to end discrimination. and another priority for the ground based mid course defense system and it's in our budget and elaine mentioned it is the redesigned kill vehicle, wech a priority and at the forefront of the work that we're doing within the agency. really designed for reliability, availability produce ability and performance all of the newlp redesigned kill vehicle that will help us maintain our edge on that threat that continues to develop. finally sortzv of in the big rocks pile amongst gmda5 i would be remiss if i didn't mention the long range discriminating radar. we've asked industry for help with that. we're evaluating those bids route now. this is going to be sl sg that we turn the lights on, if you will, in the year 2020 and it will be a sort of a crown jewel, if you will, of a complement to the sensor relay that we have today. end to end discrimination for threats from north korea and iran if they develop in that region as well. so a lot going on from gmd. ♪cçó >> so that was my very first day at the missile defense agency, so i like to take personally all the credit for the success of ftg 06 b and i often do, but a lot of hard work went into that obviously none by me since i arrived on the day that happened, but that was a hallmark event for our agency and for the nation. i think the conversation would be a lot different today had we not have the success we is it. that's a credit to the missile defense agency but our friends in industry that helped us with this. i like to say it was necessary, but it wasn't sufficient. in other words, we had to do that test, we had to find those things out we had to make sure that we gave that war fighter even more confidence in the system, but it wasn't sufficient to rest on our laurels so a lot more work to do. this is laying the groundwork for the next gm flight test and flight test out into the future. you see in the center of that screen the sbx. there has been some things written recently about that platform, maybe some of you had seen it, i just -- i want to go on record and just respectfully disagree with what i've i read recently about the sbx. i can tell you from the war fighter perspective, the operational perspective, kncx+#47h3c2 oúñ absolutely the most important sensor we had in our tool kit when the sabers were being rattled anywhere in the world, but particularly with north korea. it is absolutely the first thing we thought of in a combatant commander's headquarters when we saw something, some intelligence cue that the regime in north korea may be lining up something to shoot into space or potentially at us. the first question was how soon can we get sbx under way? i was sitting with general jacoby some spring of 2013 and the national military command center. he had the responsibility to make the recommendation to the secretary of defense and the president whether or not we were going to release ground based interceptors on a potential threat.2ic i remember looking at him and said, boss, how are you feeling? we knew based on intelligence it was imminent. and he said, you know what, i'm feeling really good. the nation has options to defend itself. i'm feeling really good because we got sbx in the right place at the right time. that's how important that is. it's absolutely the best sensor out there for discrimination. it's laying the ground work for everything we're doing in the design of the lrdr, it's a hugely important sensor to the war fighter. interestlyingly, it's been a huge asset for us and vitally important. let me give you statistics from the year 2006 until today how many times we've deployed this asset. 13 real world special taskings to include burnt frost. remember that in 2008? to include numerous cycles of provocation. every cycle of provocation since 2012, we've had sbx underway. 1 is -- 11 individual flight tests that she's participated in. six ground test events. you don't hear a lot about the ground test work that we do. but the flight test gets all the press, right? there's a lot of work that happens before flight tests or independent of a flight test where we do analysis. sbx has been a part of that, as well. three separate events 16 air force flyouts. stockpile reliability testing, making sure that those systems are operational and reliable and credible. the sbx in my mind a huge -- has huge value for the taxpayer. versatile both in operations andht war fighter wants it every time and it's hugely important for tests. as i think the numbers bear out. and as i mentioned it's a form of work we're doing on discrimination of the ldr. to call it a flop or call it or say it never should have been built, again i just have to respectfully, based on my experience in the war fighting headquarters, and now at mda, respectfully disagree with that. so i just want to give you my perspective the sbx and how valuable it is to us. ♪ ♪ this is a really good news story. as some of my navy brethren in the house today. this is a homeland defense asset and it's a regional defense asset and an asset for the united states navy globally. we're very proud of the work we've done. we continue to advance the cause and advance the ball, 35, just capable ships today. going to 33 today. we're going to 35 by the end of fiscal year '16. a very successful fall test campaign that we underwent.[ tz we did a test called ftn 25 where it really taxed out the array on the platform itself. both with a ballistic missile threat at a high and cruise missile surrogate threats flying low, simultaneously, the system handled it beautifully. it's really the basis for the work we're doing and baseline nine. a lot of advancements in this area continues to be a huge asset for the nation, a great asset for the nation and for our partners around the world. ♪xd ♪ another really, really good story. to have to approach phase 2 capability the facility in romania this year, this calendar year. and that project is moving along. and we're ready to put the shovel in the ground. and start the next phase of this campaign we are maintaining our commitment to our friends and allies and partners in europe in particular with the capability. it's a fantastic capability, and proven time and again this facility of prmf, that participates in numerous flight tests for us./w it's a fantastic capability. and, again, things are going really, really well as we continue to be on track to deliver and keep our promises to our friends and allies. ♪ >> 11 for 11 in flight tests. it's a great system. the war fighter loves it. we've got soldiers today in guam for the last two years defending regionally and homeland in guam. and you talk to the soldiers and they're satisfied with the system, love the capability it brings. the united states army loves the capability it brings and the combatant commander loves the capability the system brings. we're continuing to develop it working with the army on future requirement. we've delivered four batteries already to the army, working on a fifth and beyond. we're also delivering an additional 48 interceptors by fy '16, giving us a total of 155. and studying the future of this system and how it may actually, we can adapt this system to an evolving threat. road. so thaad is turning out to be, i think, a remarkable investment. and again, not only for our nation, but our friends and < allies around the world who are looking at this as an smf case.xd >> that video covered a lot of items. a couple of highlights. you saw the radars that are deployed in various places around the world. we just declared an operational capability this pawdecember in japan. once again, that was on time. we delivered it when we said we were going to. it's already plugged in into the war fighter suite for united states pacific command. it's soon to be plugged into the united states northern command. so it's an asset that regardless of where it is around the world can plug and play in various and different -- friends and partners thank you for the sm 32a, it's going to save the taxpayer and a great initiative we're partnering on. and i'd be remiss if i didn't offer kudos to our friends and partners in israel. i think you've probably seen the press in recent days. we're still crunching the data, but we think very, very successful flight tests of the system, which you briefly saw in the video there. lots going on in international cooperation. we can talk a lot more about it in the q & a. so, again, i covered a ton of ground in a very short amount of time. w again, i'm open to your 0l questions in a moment here. one area i didn't talk about is technology, and what mda is doing in the technology realm. and that's because we've got our chief technologist here. in my mind having been around mda now for going on a year, close to still the bread and butter. lost sight of that. so i'll close, again, put my war fighter hat back on. you can say what you want about missile defense generally or

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