Much. Thank you all for being here, appreciate it. Just some quick biographical stuff first, pete. Pete, you, as i was noting, were in the armed services. Heck of a basketball player in high school. I dont think you start off your career as a commentator, as a news guy. How did you and fox news ever meet . Good question. My First Television appearance ever was on msnbcs hardball with chris matthews. Ive never done tv before in my life and i had a marine buddy who had done tv twice, so he was an expert. He told me, he said just lean forward. Thats his first tip, it makes you look better stature, better posture. Lean forward and dont let the host cut you off. 46 times, Kris Matthews cut me off. So, i was a newbie, i did not ever anticipate id go into tv. I ran a couple vets organizations when i came back from iraq and then afghanistan. One, supporting the war fodder on the battlefield and then supporting reform at the va, still an ongoing issue obviously. Through that i ended up getting appearances on tv at a lot of places. A lot of it ended up being fox and friends. And ill never forget, one day they said, have you ever thought about asking questions instead of answering them . Is that im happy to try anything one time, worsley i do is make a fool of myself. It must have gone okay. That was 2015, early 2016. And then tucker carlson, the fox Friends Weekend host the primetime gig, and thank goodness because hes amazing and then i took tucker spot on fox Friends Weekend thats where ive been ever since. And the rest is history. David im not sure if it was your pen that wrote these words or pizza in the book, because its coauthored. But in the forward, right up there in the front, there is a note about the fact that when the two of you got together, it felt kind of like Indiana Jones and his father. One was sean connery and one was harrison ford. So, my first question to you is, which of u. S. Sean connery and which view is leave that to the imagination. But im older, so. He even looks like sean connery, doesnt he . Cant pull off the accent. Head of the two you get together for this book . I wont monopolize, i promise. I was at a fox friends diner and North Carolina and there is a beautiful young family in the corner who had their two young daughters there in uniforms. As they do it every diner, i walked around and was talking to everybody. I talk to them, and theyre talking about this wonderful school, st. Hills Classical Christian School in North Carolina that they send their kids to. I had not about Classical Christian School but my interest had peaked around that time, i wanted to learn more, the School System is broken, what do we do . He said, youve got to meet this guy david guy, he runs the association of Classical Christian Schools you have to shoot an email. So i did, shot him an email, i want to learn more, what do you guys do . He shot me tons of information. He had already done a ton of writing in research on this topic. I kept reading it and reading it, im calling him, calling him too much i think. On a regular basis and calling, david, i have a question of this. Can this really be true . Is this true . I want, point im looking at my wife and my office and i say, babe she runs a lot of the stuff on fox nation. I, said weve got to make a movie about this. People need to know whats going on, from john dewey to the original pledge of allegiance, we can get into that. So the bell me salute and what the progressives did, how they used the whole story. What david had done and the reason she did, it was a nobrainer. Then eventually the book. But none of this happens without David Goodwin and the research and expertise he brings to the topic. [applause] now, i best at just about everyone in this audience has now some familiarity with this whole Critical Race Theory. It being taught in our nations goal today. What i found fascinating in this book is, right up front, the two of you make the point that thats just a very recent tip of the iceberg. This problem is, really, as much as 100 years old. So, one of you, please explain that. Well, it is. But its really a amazing part of the development of the book as we started in march of 2020. Which, if you remember, that was before Critical Race Theory when front and center before the George Floyd Riots and even before covid. The interest early on was pete and i were thinking about what needs to be told in the early 20th century, essentially nobody told this part of the story. But as we went on, history was unfolding in front of us, the schools were deeply involved. Pete kept coming back with, hey, what about this . I had this person on tv today, they said this, have you ever looked into this . Pretty soon, it was a truly collaborative product, where pete was writing most of the parts of the book that deal the contemporary issues of the day. What we found at is a fit together like hand and glove. John do we know sooner gets through with his work than i researched in Columbia University and the Frankfort School shows up. Pete had a lot better grasp on that side of things and i did. As a whole i think the work was really providential. It would not come to get there had not been the time and place and partnership. Pete . Yeah, the progressives had the targeting of our youngest minds on their mind from the very beginning. They knew they had to remove that one immovable object inside American Civic Life and in western civilization if their schemes were to ever catch on. And they understood that immovable object was god, face. And that it was at the center of the american classroom since the founding. And they had to replace, it the way we describe it is to keep the Indiana Jones analogy going. Its like when youre trying to grab a precious artifact but its on a precious plate. If you take that artifact off the pressure plate, the alarm bells go of. If they had removed got immediately 100 years ago, the parents, the culture, the communities, the churches would have revolted. So, they openly wrote of the new republic and other publications, this is what david did, they discussed how do we remove god from the classrooms. Thats immovable object. They ultimately landed on a forgery, which the culture at the time was willing to accept. Which, effectively, was allegiance to the state. It was the flag, it was a new pledge. He pledge of allegiance written by a socialist that didnt say under god when it was originally written. I love the flag i probably said the pledge allegiance today at the beginning. I revere it. For, them it was a new idea around which they could get society to adhere, that was more valuable than nationalism being more valuable than biblical truth. When you biblical truth and objective truth you cant move people off of that. So, when will find when you read the story from the characters is almost to a man and to a woman they are atheists, humanists, socialists. And then eventually, marxists. Who reject biblical truth, who reject the idea of human nature and our fall in nature, sinful nature. Once you can change and reject that, then you create a laboratory for societal change inside classrooms. One of the other things that david discovered through his research and that we write about is the early progressives studied one of the First Successful social movements, prohibition. A woman named margaret what was her name . Willard. Francis willard. I was get frances bellame and Francis Willard confused. She was a suffragette, socialist. If we can put it into the curriculum of third graders, maybe then we start have a chance. The 1870s, third grade curriculum, anti alcohol was put it in classrooms. It was still an ad hoc system, before john dewey horsemen but a third grade curriculum is put in. By 1919, what do you have america . Prohibition of the sale and consumption of alcohol. The progressive said, wait if you can do that with a third grade curriculum what else can you do with third grade curriculum . They discovered a word called pie day. They didnt discover, they knew it from our founders. We put it at the book its how you can train the youngest. If you can change what he can change the entire way civilization looks at what they value. Well, as we said, the pledge, one nation under god, it divisible. Would you go so far as to say that when socialists and those who created the pledge were after what youve described to them under god as the state yes, originally, but the originally pledge written by Frances Belle meade not include under god. Under god was added by eisenhower when we are fighting the communists in the 50s. The original has no mention of god. To oversimplify, basically, what the progressives did was they said under the guise of Vocational Training for a new economy. What they did with they replaced a cross in the bible in the classroom with a flag and a pledge. Overtime, gradually speaking, while saying theyre going to start a different type of school over here where god is not allowed inside but we have a pull out period where you can go to instruction outside of the school. Not on School Grounds but we still respect that you have faith in god. It is incremental then when they moved to new york they took a different approach. You should explain the idea of the carey plan, david because thats one thing that blew my mind. They started a school in gary, indiana that intensely tried to change the way that school worked altogether, k through 12. Right. The intentionality was visible because they created these models in several places around the country but carrie became the center point of it. The thing about gary was anybody who knows the town, you know it from the musical or whatever. But it was formed in about 1905, is a very new city. And they could take the education wherever they wanted to take it. One of deweys disciples was the superintendent of that area and they built the gary planned there in indiana. Its features were things you probably all thought were always in school. Like bells that ring at the end of a 55 minute period. The seven period day. The idea of subjects broken up into the social sciences being inserted into it. Pete talks a lot about the social sciences element, ill leave that to you later. But this was all packaged up and they removed religion, Christiane Eddy from the classroom by simply putting it in a pull out period. When he first encountered the story was when i was reading the back and forth in the editorial pages of the new republic between 1915 and 1918. Where theyre arguing about how to get caught out of the classroom for good. One side is saying hey, if we put it in a poll out period we can eventually just drop. It either side was saying, we shouldnt have a pull out period, especially when you imported back to the new york, which is what happened with the carry plan. It was successful so they imported back to new york. The whole modern american experience, especially in high school, was decided carry and it was designed without god. It was the first design of that tight. In the book, you described at some length this whole woke movement. Part of being woke is saying hey, youre invading my space, those words are harmful all the rest of that. I read, this i just cannot believe it when i read it in your book. That is that the United States the National Archives and records administration, the agency that is the nations attic and keeps all of our records and takes care of the constitution of the United States and the declaration of independence. When you access the archives website, it suggests upon the top right hand corner, there are harmful words in these documents. How can this possibly be . Its true. You go to the website of our National Archives for the declaration of independence and the constitution of our United States of america and theres a trigger warning. A potential violent content, inappropriate content. As the logical extent of the view of the left. It is, they want to reject, they have rejected the ideas of their founding. And their theories were dedicated to that from the beginning of when they landed on our shores. David talked about the early progresses, john dewey and other names you will be introduced to. Then you have the critical theorists of the Frankfort School, who flee germany. Theyre all marxists. They flee hitler they land in new york. And they are welcome at Columbia University where john dewey had been a professor. What is columbia at that time . And what its Columbia Teachers College still today . The preeminent Teachers College in the United States of america. The marxists arrive with a new theory called critical theory. Sound familiar . Its the precursor to Critical Race Theory and critical gender theory. They begin the tj that they began to teach it in the Teachers Colleges. Which means, when those teachers go out and become heads of their department and other places, that teaching critical theory. What is critical theory, to your point . Critical theory premise is to deconstruct, effectively, western christian civilization. It is to criticize all the that lead to the white hero patriarchy capitalist system that must be torn down if we are to advance marxism. They thought, in an economic sense, but it soon became a cultural sense. They knew the bourgeoisie proletariat class warfare wasnt going to fly in the United States of america. Instead, are terrible past of Racial Injustice was more fertile ground. The critical theorists eventually landed on Critical Race Theory as the way in which they could indict america from the very beginning. We call the first chapter of our book the covid 1619 moment. Because covid happens, the zoom classroom comes into all of our homes. You open the laptop and in American History theyre teaching 1619 as a newfound a day. Because they have rejected 1776 on the principles there, of their indicting america from the very beginning as being a terrible country. That type of logic at the academic level, which has now made its way pervasively into k through 12, of course leads government institutions to say the declaration and the constitution need trigger warnings. Because they are written by slaveowners therefore, they must be canceled. We need to find a new founding day and all the wisdom they had, despite their, flaws needs to be rejected. That was a premise of critical theory from the very beginning. They used to only teach that Higher Education and now all the teachers that have been through the Teachers Colleges and had all the academician that are now in bed with the unions. By the, way i see Rebecca Friedrichs here who is a great friend of ours, was in our fell this education of america. She was standing up to goliath, took on the teachers unions in california for 30 years. Just an amazing individual. [applause] weve done a lot of wisdom from a lot of people who have been on the front lines of this. And frankly we were yelling about it before theyre paying attention, now they are paying attention. But those theories have been embedded into herds details that tell you get to the point where Something Like that appears on a website. Well explain. This is why you have to read this book, really. Let me pull a coat from your bucket id like you to explain for us. The right has long held the right principles, but the left controls the positions. What do you mean by that . Its a political question, you get it. What do i mean by that . What i mean is, look at local school boards. Look at union representation, look at our universities. We stand on principles that we know are timeless and believe that they should be timeless and that they do stand on their own. Whether its the barely of our founding or the biblical wisdom. And then the left goes ahead and runs for all the positions, takes over of institutions and then pushes out all the stuff that we thought was timeless and would be there no matter what. Theres one thing you could fault founders for, its assuming that this type of education would continue. That is how kids would be educated at some level, with an understanding of greek and latin and great books and our biblical, western civilization narrative. They kind of assumed that would be the waters weeds women and they had an anticipated the critical theorists and others who came about after that and try to deconstruct everything they did. Thats why, were not trying to be pessimistic in this book but you guys remember the stuff we cover on fox. Of parents rising up at school boards, right . Loudoun county, virginia. Glenn youngkin gets elected, its all amazing stuff. Its wonderful to see, its heartening, i mean that sincerely. But those types of actions in todays government schools. Thats what we should call them, government schools, Public Schools are government schools. Those types of actions, as we see in the book, i feel like its a charging a fortified machine gun nest with nerf guns. We salute your effort but were going to bury you all. Those school boards, what did they do know those parents 95 of the time . Good luck, see you later, next. What changes . My mom protested at pta meetings with the school board in the 80s and 90s, when i was an elementary school. And god bless her she took me out of those courses, whether it was the new sex ed course or this new quest self esteem think thats quite benign by today standards, but she recognized for what it was back then. She protested and she pulled me out. Guess what happened at Central Middle School . Not finishing nothing. 99 of the students still wanted education as forget the Quest Program an hour on our 95th iteration of that Forest Lake High School in conservative minnesota. They control the pipeline of every aspect of the educational industrial complex. The unions, big their most powerful arm of that. But the Teachers Colleges, the textbooks, the curriculums, the certifications, the accreditations. All hard leftists. We want to disavow people that they can move to a nice zip code, or im going to move to a conservative community and everythings going to be okay. The problem is the pipeline has been federalized and taken, and they control those positions. Protesting is good and doing something for your kid is good, but we argue its utterly insufficient at this point. If i did address one thing. The money involved is the icing on the cake. Its the biggest industrial complex, even rivaling a military industrial complex, dollar for dollar. Not only is that infrastructure solidly in the hands of the progressives, but the money is to. Pete, you add to what has to be defined as an elite school for university. But in the book, both of you note that your quest was to find not an elite education but, rather, the best education. What is the difference between the elite education and the best education . Youre an expert. Well, by today standards, and elite education would be princeton, where i went as an undergrad, or harvard, where i went for a masters. But i dont know if hes on fox friends recently [applause] i did bust open my diploma to harvard and right return to sender and mail it back to them live on tv. Our most elite institutions are poisoning the minds of not just our kids but our country. If we hold them up as standard barriers of excellence and gatekeepers of credibility, that we just continue the cycle of perpetuation. By the, way its not just my socalled elite backgrounds, probably your alma mater is to. Take your pick unless you want to hills dale or liberty or college of the ozarks, saw one back there, your university is probably due to fully pumping out hard leftists and marxist had a rapid pace. Major alumni newsletter, go back and take some course work, just peruse the website. By default, because we liked but sports teams are the nostalgia of drinking beer in college, we pump checks to these institutions. We might as well send it straight to the Democrat Party any part of perpetuating, that i believe, as part of perpetuating a cycle that its hurting our country. When i say the best institutions, what im talking about our david schools. Im talking about Classical Christian Schools at the k12 level. My mentor at princeton, his names rob george, amazing constitutional professor. At the, way theres a renaissance at princeton conservatives, not 25 outed conservatives in the faculty of princeton. All because of one man, who started an institution and has built its phenomenal. He has a quote in our book where he says it used to be the liberal professes that licked their chops at indoctrinating means naive, bible clinic is i showed up to college. Now, its the opposite. Its a professors, the few among, them who like their chopped at undoing the indoctrination of the kids who already show up woke at the doctor unaided. The problem is not Higher Education, Higher Education is already gone. The problem is k through 12, thats the focus of our book. Theyre consolidating that on k12. When i talk about a great education and not an elite education, the kids david pumps out are elite. Theyre elite performers, elite students, elite critical thinkers, elite debaters. Theyre ready to go into the culture and engage and win. By that definition of elite, they are really. If you mean a lead by pace 50,000 so your kid can be woke, theyre not elite. Thats what a lot of the elite middle schools or high schools like, like that or pipelines to the ivy league. These are pipelines to wisdom, timeless wisdom, the type that our founders received it gave them the ability to debate what they debated 250 years ago to create this form of government. That is our republic, if we can keep it. I didnt get that education and i got a standard every time i talk to, david the first thing i say to him was, why cant i go back to one of your schools . Because i learned almost nothing. If i look back at the social studies that i learned. We all took social studies, i bet you all, did social sciences. Guess what . All disciplines made up by marxist it used to be geography and philosophy and theology and civics and politics. They deconstructed it to dumb it down, to make it all a Scientific Method that cant be explained because theres no more objective truth. We all got a progressive education and we didnt know. At what davids doing is on earthing a hidden form of education that the progressives almost completely buried by the 1970s that is now giving a generation of americans a chance to actually get educated. My seventh grader, who has been a Classical Christian School after six years, understands ancient greece and rome better than i ever will. Which means hes engaging with the big ideas that the founders engaged, with as he goes into culture totally awash and devoid of them. Thats what i would call elite, thats how i would like to try to redefine it. Wow. [applause] following on that perhaps, you two can launch off of this from the sentence in your book. And what you notice, the problem is not whats being taught in our schools but whats not being taught in our schools. So, give some examples of a classical Christian Education that you think will in fact develop elite thinkers. One of the things that we take for granted that history gave us a long ago that weve forgotten. The seven liberal, arts the basis of classic christianity education, they date back to ancient greece. A question, was if you are going to form some kind of republic or democracy, you had to prepare your children to think for themselves. Because, if they just listen to whatever doctrine somebody gave them, they would vote for the tyrant. Because thats going to go back to the tyranny. That was the fear of the greeks, it was the fear of the romans. And it was the basis of this country when they built the country, thats why we have eagles on our stanchions. Many other roman artifacts. Because theyre harkening back to this idea that a republic requires freethinking people. So, the sovereign liberal arts, the first three which ill talk about here. Logic and rhetoric. Training on how to use language, well training on how to use logic and to think well through the study of both formal and informal logic and practice on the things we do in classical schools as we practice thinking. We dont tell kids what to think, we practice them in the art of good thinking. Very different kind of education, is not one teacher standing in front of a room with 25 kids and telling them what to think. There is round, tables theyre engaging each, other theyre trying to learn to argue well. Third subject in the curriculums rhetoric. Which now is a dirty word because politics kind of shuffled it up. It was originally the art of understanding the comprehensive whole of a topic, and being able to communicate that other people and persuade them to follow you. Which of course, is the heart of the democracy, heart of the republic. Its to have discourse. What were seeing right now in our countrys discourse being shut down from every angle. Because we cant stand to hear things we dont like to hear. The solution is not necessarily, if youre a parent that theyre trying to figure out where should i send my child to school, the solution i Public Schools, governments goals that youve talked about, thats the real problem. The solution is not necessarily all spent 50 boxes and make it to a private or independent private school. Correct . Correct, in fact, all argue that most of the private schools are even worse. And more woke in fact, a lot of the christians schools and Catholic Schools are maybe not as bad on the surface in every way you see, but they are still built completely on the progressive model of education. Thats what shook me so much at the beginning, working with david, once he starts to dig into it and realize. He likens it to a capsized ship. If youve been living in a capsized ship for 100 years, you feel like the wall is the floor. And thats what youve lived in. But then where you tip the capsized ship back up and you realize youve been living sideways for 100, years everything looks completely different. That is what davids movement has had to do since the 1980s, revival of form of education because it was almost completely gone. I would say the darkest days of education in this country where the 1970s, when there was no such thing as classic old christian. They almost outlawed homeschooling they were very close to doing. So they tried to outlaw all parochial schooling earlier as well in oregon, they still would like to if they could. Thank goodness for the Supreme Court we just got last week in maine its been a good week for our founders and their structure of government. And for so many other leaders in this country, including ronald reagan, and who have been fighters for life for generations and here we are. I would just say that you have to breakdown the assumptions you have about what education, means especially in a christian context. Thats why i pay classical christian its so different. What we tried to do is breaking down the notions of classical meaning dusty and old, like how people thought home school means weird and not socialized. Which is not the case. If you look at how its done today and done so well, its amazing what theyre doing and home schooling. Including pods and coops and online curriculums and classical christian home schooling, there are more options today than there have ever been for a great education for your kids and grandkids. Which, i bag, its one of the good news stories out of this. David has almost 500 break and mortar class voters in schools across the country in 46 states. Theres a bunch here in california, across the country. We argue for pentagram pans take a radical reorientation of your lives and saying, next to your family, next to your face, the next thing you can take is where you educate your kids. Where they spend 16,000 hours between the age of kindergarten and 12th grade. 16, 000, our set was the original working hours of the book, 16,000 hour war. Because thats what it is. Do you really want to send your kids to 16,000 hours of Democrat Camp . Because that is ugly what were doing right now when we send our kids to 90 of the k12 schools exist in america today. I would argue you dont want that. And even in some of the articles that david uncovered, the progressives wrote about that. In fact, you would know the quote better than me. What chance does one hour of the estate training on sunday morning have against 40 hours of secular training during the week . Who is said that, david, i cant remember . Charles potter. Charles potter. They knew from the beginning. Frankly, the Christian Church today to ourselves as a movement. When the church advocated its responsibility on education, david right so beautifully about this, theres a social justice arm and then the fundamentalist arm. Ultimately, that social justice armed rights with the progressive and the fundamentalist arm say, were just here to save souls. Which is wonderful. But basically said that were not in the School Business anymore. Look i created at that moment . Sunday school. So, instead of sending our kids to a School Monday through friday that has gotten it, we take that out of the schools and we send them to school for one hour on sunday. Then you see what happens as a result. I would look very closely at any elite school, any private school and any Christian School and look at the baseline prerogatives of what they teach and compared against the liberal arts, classical approach that david has and i think youll see a stark difference. If i could jump on that real quick, its exhibit a in what we are talking about with deep educational state. Where they control accommodation, teacher certification, Teachers Colleges. It doesnt matter if you go to a Christian High School or an independent prep school, they are all trained in that system. Thats the point were trying to, make the reason their woke is because they get the same training is everybody else. The prescriptive we have in the book is get out and go in a totally different direction. Tactical retreat as what we call it. Sometimes a near surrounded, the first immediate movements retreat. The, and we are in the book for an educational insurgency. No form of warfare of the week against the, strong small against the big. David stated that insurgency through his schools and we are seeing arizona just had universal education tax credit program. Its a beautiful day, theres a movement there. Were going to turn it to the audience for questions in just a minute, but to trigger words alcohol on that you said, pete. That remind us. First is the Reagan Foundation and institute, we are blessed in that we are able to give 1 Million Dollars in College Scholarships each and every year. Too often between ten and 20 students. What we are finding is that more and more of those that have risen to the top, that become finalist competitors, our home schooled. Its really been a fascinating thing to watch. Like a, thing before we go to questions from the, audience i want to just read a quote from michaels father here, president reagan. In his Farewell Speech to the nation in january of 1989. The president said, and informed patriotism is what we want. Are we doing a good enough job teaching our children what america is and what she represents in the long history of the world . It what it beads to be an american. Weve got to teach history based not on what is in fashion but what is important. If we forget what we did, we wont now who we are. I am warning of an eradication of the american memory that could result, ultimately, in an erosion of the american spirit. Right . Thats it. [applause] that was the and, at the beginning of reagans time he commissioned an educational assessment of america. I cant get this quote right but it essentially concluded that, if a foreign country would have done, this we wouldve called it an act of war. Look it up, its the report coming up. We would like to challenge you, the audience, for questions. Just a quick primer, or if you have a question of course raise your hand, so please wait until we get a microphone put in your hand so we can hear your question. Questions . One right here near the front. Hi, thank you very much. Pete, question for you. Because of your occupation and the circles you travel in, you encounter media from the left and ever have discussions with them on their positions . Ever have a band with them, go back and forth . Or do you pretty much stay to people on the right. Has that work in your profession . Just when i talked to ron williams. I would love to. First of all, i get a chance to work with some of the best conservatives in the business. Rachel campos duffy, will dane, or chalk full of him at fox and grateful for that. Ill say this, the left wing media are not the most tolerant bunch these days. Not only would they not want to have a conversation with me, i would count myself as someone who has gotten some pretty left to universities and hung around. Im happy to have a conversation with you knowing we disagree and know that were probably going to come to a different conclusion at the end of the conversation. The problem is, these days, you talk to most members of the media on the left side of the aisle and the only way that conversations going to go is a great and by say you are a racist. Really, thats what it evolves into. Its an absolute mischaracterization, strawman mischaracterization of the opponent as less than human. Private conversations i have with people left of center at fox are wonderful, wonderful. They are at a place that actually tolerates. One quick anecdote, i have a bunch of friends who worked at cnn that are conservatives. Every single one of them has gone running for the exits because eventually they are cornered and run out and screamed at what horrible human beings they are, especially if they supported trump. Find the door or youre going to sit on the shelf and never be on tv. Ive never met a liberal that works at fox that didnt say, this is the most wonderful place ive ever worked. Because we do tolerate. We have discussions on the air and have it out, but at the end of the day i can ask about their kids and life of what do you think about this. To compliment me on the book, i saw this. It can exist when you foster an environment where it exists. That environment, i believe that fox, is a shared value that america is a good country. And that god its worth celebrating. [applause] when you agree on the basics, you can think of the other stuff out. Over here . Gonna hold it, okay, thank you so much both of you for being here. So excited to read your book. Its a little overwhelming to listen. I have three millennial kids that havent had kids yet but do you have a suggestion as to how we can communicate, besides just giving them the book . Or how do we and also, its a two part question. That, because i would like to be able to communicate that to two of the couples of my kids who are trying to have kids, to look at this. But the other side of it is, what can we do in the audience to help this movement . Well, i talked to a gal last week who had the same question. She wasnt sure she was going to get them to read the book, but they did watch the mens education series and it was very influential for millennial kids. They had never heard that before. I would certainly commend that on fox. Miss education of america, a sixpart series now on fox nation. We tell the abbreviated version of the book in film form, we worked with a great producer, jon case who put it together did a phenomenal job. And theyre not going to want to read it, i think after watching at the probably want to read it even more. I think, ultimately, coming at the topic with humility to your kids, which is exactly what im going to do to my kids someday when theyre old enough to understand why we made all the choices that we made. Just be like, i had no idea. Youre going to want the best for your kids. Maybe i didnt know that when i was going to, because it wasnt laid so bare in front of me. But now i want to, now and you are going to want to know, because i know youre going to what the best for kids to. Yourself a favor before theyre five years old i had read this book. Also, i think now covid related this to. Being really intentional, i can say this to california that someone whos lived a lot of minnesota, a very hopelessly blue state. Being more intentional about where you live. Meaning the city and the county that you live in. Covid showed us how much more impact that local control can have. Thats what i mean, what davids website has, every school thats a Classical Christian School is on a pin on a map. I would move to a school. Thats what my wife and i are doing, moving to a school. I think its that important that you cant say well, heres the biggest problem. We all pay property taxes and we would probably move to a place thats nice because of the schools and we pay those property taxes. I think thats a hard thing to get past for some people. But ultimately, is that sacrifice where the future of your kids and their souls and the way they view the world . I think, yeah, tell them to watch my movie. Theres another benefit to this whole movement, shorthand, really association members. We just had these many independent, schools theyre all independent. Outside of ice, there is organizations doing classical education. For example, its classical conversations and home schools doing the same thing for homeschoolers. If your kids cant afford seven, 8,000 a year in home tuition, homeschoolings another option. Classical Christian Education is 2000 years, old no one owns it, its all of our. As we just have to recover it. Over . Here hi. I went through the whole catholic home school and started my kid with that, its in college now. Graduated. I had a big problem, like what you said about progressive plan. It was core curriculum. In a day home schooled we have schooled catholic up here in napa, they still had a core curriculum that we had to do. I stopped going there, i said im not going to do it anymore. We did our thanks for his schooling and groups. But, then when we wanted to come back to high school for sports and stuff they wouldnt accept him. He had to go to an alternative school. I was so glad i was able to home school him because it just meant so much to me and he he turned out great. Hes an eagle scout and all that other stuff we did. That was a big block for me. I said, why do we have to cater to those core curriculum still . No one other thing i wanted to mention. I noticed that lbj, he decided he didnt want to have school buses for christians and catholics. Even though we publicly pay all the taxes for getting kids to the Public Schools, he eliminated taking kids to Christian Schools. Id like to turn that around also and turn around the core curriculum thing. How do we do that . The school bus thing sounds like a great challenge for the Supreme Court these days. Im serious. I think the core curriculum is part of how they consolidate the control, obviously. David, how do you navigate the core curriculum and christians . Schools we dont. They dont. When you dont take the kings gold at some level, not that you are, homeschooling is not that. Youre right though, when the testing at the High School Level requires the core curriculum aspect, thats how they try to box most parent in and it takes a lot of extra effort to do it on their own. I think that next step is also we talk about this in the book. The sat recently stopped testing for reasoning. Because reasoning is racist. The same kind of turner of the sats, the guy who wrote common core, which is the federalization of standards under the obama administration. What david has lined up with is a classical learning test, an s. A. T. For Classical Christian Schools. Theres pipelines of curriculum for Classical Christian Schools. Theres accreditations. Teachers colleges need to be created, its an entire ecosystem thats going to have to live parallel to a progressive pipeline that controls every aspect, to your point. Michael, i think its a question. You are born when my president became president of the United States. I dont know if youre aware, but when he ran for president of the United States of first time, one of the main things in his campaign was to get rid of the department of education. Put forward by jimmy carter. The last thing he was really upset with, after eight years of being president of the United States, he was never able to get rid of the department of education. I remember one of his great quotes is, you know, when we cease to be one nation under god, where a nation gone under. I quote that all the time when they go out and speak to young people. Other than that, where can people get a list of the schools . For us people who have grandkids now . My parents sent me to a military academy. I went to a School Called st. Johns alcatraz. I was told by the sisters of mercy. Then i went to the jesuits. So, god was having fun with me from the very beginning. But where do you get a list . Ive been give credit to my wife, stormy, in the front row. She is a web master and has developed a great tool where you can sort by state, city, it is on a map, anything you want. Classical christian dot org school finder. She built, that it will get you there fast. Every school has its own page that you end up at because, again, we are and an association of likeminded independent schools. To your point, there isnt your dad, i would believe, its a adamant and getting rid of, it because he knew how and why it was created. We break that and that the book as well. A lot of the work that rebecca has done focuses on that too. Unions used to be conservative teacher associations which were taken over by the unionization movement, then that Union Movement turned around and endorsed its first ever president ial candidate in 1976. The teachers unions had half the delegates at the 76 convention when they endorsed jimmy carter. Jimmy carter was elected president , he turned around and gave them a gift to that is very powerful teachers unions, the creation of the federal department of education. The andy a and the aft openly bragged at that moment that there will be no department of education without the teachers unions. From the very, beginning the department of education has been a creation of those teachers unions. Politically, they tried to make it impossible for people to understand that to get rid of that because on your antieducation. Which is a problem among so many other weak kneed republican senators and congressman of that era. Who wouldnt be willing to make that move. I hope were at a point where, because of how corrupt the unions, are especially after covid, that being against Something Like the department of education can be decoupled from being against education. Theyve corrupted so much, theyve created an opportunity to expose it. Its time for one last question, sorry. Well go over here. Thank you. My grandkids are home schooled, where i started to learn a lot about it. My granddaughter is a sophomore at hillsdale. But stepping out there, he provides courses for kids through high school. There, free online courses you can take no charge. Its just absolutely wonderful. The reach they have there is just amazing. That college is hard to get into and they have a tremendous student body. They have a code of honor, like military academies. If you break the, code youre kicked out. One of the codes that my granddaughter learned the hard way when she was still in high school, she lied to her mother. Bad mistake. I get the phone call, she said talk to emily. Problem . Yeah, she lied to me about not doing homework. I called my granddaughter and i said, lying about your homework . Not doing your homework is simply a problem. You fix the problem, you own it, if you fix it. Lying to your mother is a character flaw. Youve lost your confidence, never do that again. When they interviewed her with the code, she said, we missing anything . They said yes, dont lie to yourself. My grandson is just making eagle scout this month. Graduations congratulations its funny, i was just talking to jason chavez on his podcast about the book, he was talking about his friend, trey gowdy. His friend trey gowdy said, you know what . It all my years of prosecuting, ive never prosecuted when he gets a question about education, he says, you know what . Ive never had to prosecute a home schooled kids or eagle scout. Weve got two of them here. Thats a testament for someone whos willing to do something for their kids. Its encouraging but now theres breaking border options and more Online Options to where we can get to a Critical Mass for republic at three, four, five, 6 of graduates of this country like be part of the leadership change for the future. Each of you are going to have an opportunity to say hi to pete and david at the book signing that were heading to now. Just on behalf of this terrific audience, i want to say thank you so much for both of you. [applause] this was an instant of judging my own internalized misogyny and realizing how we all exists on the spectrum of compromise. Watch the full pardon him online anytime at cspan. Org slash tv. Just search for emily wretch because. Up next on top tvs Author Interview program, afterwards Christine Amara offers shes interviewed by author don afraid is. Afterwards is a weekly Interview Program with relevant guesthouse interviewing top non fiction about their latest work. Hi christine and congratulations on your new book, rethinking sex. Im really excited to talk with you