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you are mostly there. that's where i think people misunderstand within an agency, within a particular program, almost everybody has everything they need. the only thing they don't have is interoperable identifiers embedded. if every agency were to publish their, if you will, their keys, and then you compare their keys for what it means to another agency's keys for what it means, you can build a table for bringing them all together. now, we do that every time we ask for a report that comes from ask for a report that comes from multiple agencies. captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2008 california and an update on implementation of the data act signed into law on may 2014. pope francis' visit to the u.s. continues at 10:00 a.m. eastern with a preview of his speech to the u.n. general assembly. the speech is at 10:45. later at 11:30, the pope gives a multi-religious service at the 9/11 memorial. our live coverage here on c-span3. on the next "washington journal," pope francis' visit to new york, the second city on his u.s. trip. then a review of the pope's speech to congress with tom roberts, editor at large for the national reporter, including the tone, topics, religious significance and political implications. washington journal is live every morning at 7:00 a.m. on c-span. and we welcome your calls and comments on facebook and twitter. attorney general loretta lynch will be in richmond, virginia tomorrow to meet with the city's police chief and mayor. then she'll hold a private round table discussion aimed at improving relations between police and residents. the attorney general spoke about policing and congressional reform at the black caucus conference last week along with congressman john conyers. this is two and a half hours. good morning. i will try one more time. good morning. >> good morning. >> my name is chief goff, and i hope we can find reform. when i was asked to moderate today, i did what i normally do and i went straight to bible study and thought, well, what wisdom can be offered on the issue of race and policing in contemporary america? as is frequently the case with my bible, which is wiser than i, i opened it, went straight to proverbs 4:7. it says, wisdom is the principal thing. therefore, get wisdom. and in all that getting, help me understand. somebody say wisdom. >> wisdom. >> in a moment when black lives matter is not just the call but the response, it is not just the art but the science, i came to meditate on the wisdom of what does it mean, what are we called to do? what is required of us when a person or group of people matters to us? what is required of me that i know you, not that i just understand you, but i get to know the things that influence you. if i have a child, i am not a responsible parent if i love that child and ignore the friends the child is hanging out with. if i have a partner that i'm thinking of marrying, it is not responsible for me to love him or her and have no idea what their friends are saying about me. and if black lives matter, it is not responsible of us as a people, as a nation to be loving black folks while ignoring the law enforcement that is affecting their lives every day. if i want to get wisdom on how to make black lives matter, i need to take seriously the idea that we need to increase our literacy on police issues. we need to understand policing. okay? and i don't just mean that we need to reed about it in the paper. i mean we need to be able to answer some fundamental questions about the character and the content of policing. so i have some fundamental questions here. how many people were pulled over in their vehicle by police last year? raise your hand if you know the answer. raise it high, because we all want to know. we'll skip that one. how many times was force used by a police officer against a citizen of the united states last year? go ahead, raise your hands up high. we need to know. all right, maybe we'll skip that one as well. how about this. our residentially s-- are resi e integrated communities more likely to be arrested than integrated communities? raise your hand up high because i need to know. our lack of literacy on police issues to this date is a national embarrassment. we ought to be ashamed of ourselves. and all of us who want to proclaim that we need to do better, myself included -- now, i've gone from the bible, i have to go to my mama -- you can't be loud and wrong. you can't be loud and ignorant. so we need to know, if black lives matter, then we need to take seriously the project of coming to understand policing, of becoming not just literate but fluent on the character of policing on its own terms, on its own sake, in the way we need to understand the friends of our children, the parents of our partners, and the character of this country. if black lives matter, we need to take policing seriously. somebody say wisdom. >> wisdom. >> so that is the goal of today. and up here we have some of the nation's best at fixing our national embarrassment of a lack of data and a lack of understanding. i'm proud to have partners up here in the center for policing he cequity equity's national database, the first and largest collection on police behavior. and we're going to be hearing people that from their tireless efforts, from their lifelong commitment, and from the jobs they're doing right now today right before they showed up and right after they leave this meeting are helping to correct the embarrassment, the lack of wisdom that we have. on how we can make good on our requirements of making black lives matter. okay? so everyone up here, and those who will come in at a later point, we'll get about sill get minutes to speak. we want to make sure there are questions we get from you all. make sure to stay with us, stay engaged. i'll be giving very, very brief introductions for everyone. okay? then they will expand on their particular topic. we may not be in a black church, but we bring a black church with us so it's okay to have a response today. you may not be moved to say amen, but you're able to. coming from the end of my panel, i'm going to pick on one of my very good friends, the director of cops' office, ron davis. i think he felt safe sitting in the middle, but i think it's important to hear from federal voices on terms of how this is moving. ron davis, spending a long time in the service in oakland and a chief of the nation in east palo alto, an innovator of policing is the first national director of the cops' office and has been doing tremendous work in collaborative reform and working on consent decrees and giving carrots to police departments and not just sticks. i'll let him introduce his topic now. >> want me to sit here? >> however you want to do it, but i prefer to see you stand. please join me in welcoming director davis. [ applause ] >> good morning. >> good morning. >> i would say thank you, phil, but i'm not. i'll get you back later. it's great to be here, i think this is probably great timing, a great topic, and as phil mentioned, i spent 30 years in law enforcement before coming to the cops' office. 20 years in the great city of oakland, a very diverse community, an outstanding community, one that faces a lot of challenges, though, and eight and a half years plus in east palo alto as chief, another great diverse city that faces challenges. when i came to the cops' office, i think what i brought with me was this understanding of watching the evolution of policing in the last eight years. when i was a cop in 1985, they had a special program for 12-year-olds -- see if you catch it -- when i got hired in 1985 as a rookie cop, where we are in a profession, and for those who were around for a while, that's right in the beginning of the crack epidemic. when i think of how it was evaluated, what policing was about, and it was really heavily about enforcing. in fact, the way you accelerated in an organization was by making more and more arrests. if you came to me in 2005 saying, do you believe in reindustry entr reentry, i would say, absolutely, my job is to put every criminal back in prison. as we've evolved, we know that's just not the case. despite our efforts, we've made a loft progress since the 1980ls. we're more diverse, more evidence based, we're engaging in more policing, but the things we haven't done have left a lot of communities behind, and dr. goff is good at this in framing it. the first part we have to start with is the acknowledgment of the role law enforcement has played throughout history in repressing certain communities. we have to acknowledge that because that creates the generational mistrust that exists today. when you see people that are demonstrating, you see people frustrated, that's because they're disconnected, they're disen franchised and the system isn't serving them like they should, so we need to address it. in my 30 years here, i've never seen such opportunity. i was in the police department when the rodney king incident occurred, i've seen crises come and go, and it usually seems to come ask then go. this, i think it's fair to say, i believe, that we're amid a new civil rights movement in the united states. the question for my colleagues in blue and in uniforms, what role are the police going to play in the civil rights movement? in the '60s, we played a role in suppressing it, trying to prevent it, and i think in the 21st century we'll play a role of facilitating it, supporting it, being a part of it because we need to make changes. if you'll recall, based on a lot of things that were going on in the country, in december of last year, president obama announced the creation of the president's task force in the 21st century policing. i'm going to turn to that because i think that supplies a road map for us. he identified 11 outstanding members to lead this. i was honored enough to serve as director of the task force. they were police chiefs, they were academics, they were young people coming off the demonstration lines in new york, they were academics and civil rights attorneys who admitted their whole career was suing police departments. this diverse group had such diverse views that people wondered, could we come together to build anything, and i think we learned that diverse views are not divisive views. with this diversity, they were able to come together and build a consensus. so the first lesson the task force puts out there, you can still bring views to the table and still build a consensus. but challenges will bring people out of their comfort zones. so they had a list of 60 evaluations which we'll have a chance to talk about throughout this session on how to build trust and how to make our nation safer. when the president charged this task force, he was very clear. recommendationsv(":x to build t between the police and the community, but he also wanted to make sure we would continue enhancing public safety. i think that's what the task force was able to do. this is the report that is out there. i think now the charge is going to be to make sure this report does not sit on a shelf, that it becomes alive and it's operationalized that people are embracing around the country, that the departments are using it as a road map, and we're starting to see that. i'm traveling all over this country and i'm seeing police chiefs reporting to the community those things they've already implemented, those things they need to implement, working with the community to advance it. this has to be driven by everyone, not just the police. we are co-producers of public safety and communitying policing togeth together. i want to end with this, phil, and a couple comments that drive me to be a police chief. as we start talking about crime and violence, it's sometime in that fight that we begin to lose our way. as we struggle with crime rates and violence, we want to think the only thing we're supposed to do is reduce crime, and we lose sight of the fact that it's not just fighting crime but also the preservation of justice. so i want you to think about this. if you think about a neighborhood, whoever controls the open public space of the neighborhood controls the quality of life for the people that live there. think about your neighborhood, think about where you grew up, especially in our urban centers. whoever controls that open space controls the quality of life. if gang leaders and drug dealers control it, people live in fear. if the police control it, people feel oppressed. the job is not to stop and frisk, not to take thousands of people to jail, it is to empower and work with the community to take control of their own public space so that they can be alive, well, and that their activity will reduce crime. it's all about regaining control of these neighborhoods by the community, with the community, and not against it and not fighting it. so in 30 years i would tell you we're at a defining moment in american policing history. we have a small window of comfort to conquer any crisis. but the window of opportunity will close very quickly and is usually replaced by past mistakes. three let's not go down that road and keep repeating mistakes. let's talk about excessive force. let's talk about supporting officers and not every cop is bad, not every young person is bad. we need to have the courage to talk about discussions, we need courage to talk about the future, we need to come together. when it's time for me to leave this office, i want to be able to say that we came together, that we worked together and that the country is better for it. i'll tell you something, when i look at the officers right now -- and i would tell you this -- look at the leadership that travel that travel this country. take solace in knowing that i'm seeing a new generation of officers that are smarter -- people will get mad at me for saying this but i'm saying it, anyway -- that come across more diverse environments. i'm seeing police want to learn, so let's not make this a fight or a debate. let's make it a dialogue, let's work together. i look forward to the questions you have. i'll get you back later, phil, but thank you. [ applause ] >> it is now my absolute pleasure, it's an honor, to introduce the representative of michigan's 13th district and the man who has introduced more civil rights legislation than any other individual in the history of this country, representative john conyers. [ applause ] >> top of the morning, everybody. great to be here, and i'm pleased to be here to help convene the annual forum on criminal justice reform. this year we're joined by policing practices experts to help us gain a better understanding of the challenges to resolving the growing divide between the police and minority communities which they serve. i say that carefully. we want to understand the challenges to resolve the growing divide between the police and minority communities which they serve. the tragic deaths of michael brown, eric garner, walter scott, freddie gray have sparked pain and outrage in communities across the nation calling for congressional action. now, for many in our communities, the death of these men, along with many others, represents a continuing and dangerous cycle of disproportionate use of force against men of color. we must

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you are mostly there. that's where i think people misunderstand within an agency, within a particular program, almost everybody has everything they need. the only thing they don't have is interoperable identifiers embedded. if every agency were to publish their, if you will, their keys, and then you compare their keys for what it means to another agency's keys for what it means, you can build a table for bringing them all together. now, we do that every time we ask for a report that comes from ask for a report that comes from multiple agencies. captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2008 california and an update on implementation of the data act signed into law on may 2014. pope francis' visit to the u.s. continues at 10:00 a.m. eastern with a preview of his speech to the u.n. general assembly. the speech is at 10:45. later at 11:30, the pope gives a multi-religious service at the 9/11 memorial. our live coverage here on c-span3. on the next "washington journal," pope francis' visit to new york, the second city on his u.s. trip. then a review of the pope's speech to congress with tom roberts, editor at large for the national reporter, including the tone, topics, religious significance and political implications. washington journal is live every morning at 7:00 a.m. on c-span. and we welcome your calls and comments on facebook and twitter. attorney general loretta lynch will be in richmond, virginia tomorrow to meet with the city's police chief and mayor. then she'll hold a private round table discussion aimed at improving relations between police and residents. the attorney general spoke about policing and congressional reform at the black caucus conference last week along with congressman john conyers. this is two and a half hours. good morning. i will try one more time. good morning. >> good morning. >> my name is chief goff, and i hope we can find reform. when i was asked to moderate today, i did what i normally do and i went straight to bible study and thought, well, what wisdom can be offered on the issue of race and policing in contemporary america? as is frequently the case with my bible, which is wiser than i, i opened it, went straight to proverbs 4:7. it says, wisdom is the principal thing. therefore, get wisdom. and in all that getting, help me understand. somebody say wisdom. >> wisdom. >> in a moment when black lives matter is not just the call but the response, it is not just the art but the science, i came to meditate on the wisdom of what does it mean, what are we called to do? what is required of us when a person or group of people matters to us? what is required of me that i know you, not that i just understand you, but i get to know the things that influence you. if i have a child, i am not a responsible parent if i love that child and ignore the friends the child is hanging out with. if i have a partner that i'm thinking of marrying, it is not responsible for me to love him or her and have no idea what their friends are saying about me. and if black lives matter, it is not responsible of us as a people, as a nation to be loving black folks while ignoring the law enforcement that is affecting their lives every day. if i want to get wisdom on how to make black lives matter, i need to take seriously the idea that we need to increase our literacy on police issues. we need to understand policing. okay? and i don't just mean that we need to reed about it in the paper. i mean we need to be able to answer some fundamental questions about the character and the content of policing. so i have some fundamental questions here. how many people were pulled over in their vehicle by police last year? raise your hand if you know the answer. raise it high, because we all want to know. we'll skip that one. how many times was force used by a police officer against a citizen of the united states last year? go ahead, raise your hands up high. we need to know. all right, maybe we'll skip that one as well. how about this. our residentially s-- are resi e integrated communities more likely to be arrested than integrated communities? raise your hand up high because i need to know. our lack of literacy on police issues to this date is a national embarrassment. we ought to be ashamed of ourselves. and all of us who want to proclaim that we need to do better, myself included -- now, i've gone from the bible, i have to go to my mama -- you can't be loud and wrong. you can't be loud and ignorant. so we need to know, if black lives matter, then we need to take seriously the project of coming to understand policing, of becoming not just literate but fluent on the character of policing on its own terms, on its own sake, in the way we need to understand the friends of our children, the parents of our partners, and the character of this country. if black lives matter, we need to take policing seriously. somebody say wisdom. >> wisdom. >> so that is the goal of today. and up here we have some of the nation's best at fixing our national embarrassment of a lack of data and a lack of understanding. i'm proud to have partners up here in the center for policing he cequity equity's national database, the first and largest collection on police behavior. and we're going to be hearing people that from their tireless efforts, from their lifelong commitment, and from the jobs they're doing right now today right before they showed up and right after they leave this meeting are helping to correct the embarrassment, the lack of wisdom that we have. on how we can make good on our requirements of making black lives matter. okay? so everyone up here, and those who will come in at a later point, we'll get about sill get minutes to speak. we want to make sure there are questions we get from you all. make sure to stay with us, stay engaged. i'll be giving very, very brief introductions for everyone. okay? then they will expand on their particular topic. we may not be in a black church, but we bring a black church with us so it's okay to have a response today. you may not be moved to say amen, but you're able to. coming from the end of my panel, i'm going to pick on one of my very good friends, the director of cops' office, ron davis. i think he felt safe sitting in the middle, but i think it's important to hear from federal voices on terms of how this is moving. ron davis, spending a long time in the service in oakland and a chief of the nation in east palo alto, an innovator of policing is the first national director of the cops' office and has been doing tremendous work in collaborative reform and working on consent decrees and giving carrots to police departments and not just sticks. i'll let him introduce his topic now. >> want me to sit here? >> however you want to do it, but i prefer to see you stand. please join me in welcoming director davis. [ applause ] >> good morning. >> good morning. >> i would say thank you, phil, but i'm not. i'll get you back later. it's great to be here, i think this is probably great timing, a great topic, and as phil mentioned, i spent 30 years in law enforcement before coming to the cops' office. 20 years in the great city of oakland, a very diverse community, an outstanding community, one that faces a lot of challenges, though, and eight and a half years plus in east palo alto as chief, another great diverse city that faces challenges. when i came to the cops' office, i think what i brought with me was this understanding of watching the evolution of policing in the last eight years. when i was a cop in 1985, they had a special program for 12-year-olds -- see if you catch it -- when i got hired in 1985 as a rookie cop, where we are in a profession, and for those who were around for a while, that's right in the beginning of the crack epidemic. when i think of how it was evaluated, what policing was about, and it was really heavily about enforcing. in fact, the way you accelerated in an organization was by making more and more arrests. if you came to me in 2005 saying, do you believe in reindustry entr reentry, i would say, absolutely, my job is to put every criminal back in prison. as we've evolved, we know that's just not the case. despite our efforts, we've made a loft progress since the 1980ls. we're more diverse, more evidence based, we're engaging in more policing, but the things we haven't done have left a lot of communities behind, and dr. goff is good at this in framing it. the first part we have to start with is the acknowledgment of the role law enforcement has played throughout history in repressing certain communities. we have to acknowledge that because that creates the generational mistrust that exists today. when you see people that are demonstrating, you see people frustrated, that's because they're disconnected, they're disen franchised and the system isn't serving them like they should, so we need to address it. in my 30 years here, i've never seen such opportunity. i was in the police department when the rodney king incident occurred, i've seen crises come and go, and it usually seems to come ask then go. this, i think it's fair to say, i believe, that we're amid a new civil rights movement in the united states. the question for my colleagues in blue and in uniforms, what role are the police going to play in the civil rights movement? in the '60s, we played a role in suppressing it, trying to prevent it, and i think in the 21st century we'll play a role of facilitating it, supporting it, being a part of it because we need to make changes. if you'll recall, based on a lot of things that were going on in the country, in december of last year, president obama announced the creation of the president's task force in the 21st century policing. i'm going to turn to that because i think that supplies a road map for us. he identified 11 outstanding members to lead this. i was honored enough to serve as director of the task force. they were police chiefs, they were academics, they were young people coming off the demonstration lines in new york, they were academics and civil rights attorneys who admitted their whole career was suing police departments. this diverse group had such diverse views that people wondered, could we come together to build anything, and i think we learned that diverse views are not divisive views. with this diversity, they were able to come together and build a consensus. so the first lesson the task force puts out there, you can still bring views to the table and still build a consensus. but challenges will bring people out of their comfort zones. so they had a list of 60 evaluations which we'll have a chance to talk about throughout this session on how to build trust and how to make our nation safer. when the president charged this task force, he was very clear. recommendationsv(":x to build t between the police and the community, but he also wanted to make sure we would continue enhancing public safety. i think that's what the task force was able to do. this is the report that is out there. i think now the charge is going to be to make sure this report does not sit on a shelf, that it becomes alive and it's operationalized that people are embracing around the country, that the departments are using it as a road map, and we're starting to see that. i'm traveling all over this country and i'm seeing police chiefs reporting to the community those things they've already implemented, those things they need to implement, working with the community to advance it. this has to be driven by everyone, not just the police. we are co-producers of public safety and communitying policing togeth together. i want to end with this, phil, and a couple comments that drive me to be a police chief. as we start talking about crime and violence, it's sometime in that fight that we begin to lose our way. as we struggle with crime rates and violence, we want to think the only thing we're supposed to do is reduce crime, and we lose sight of the fact that it's not just fighting crime but also the preservation of justice. so i want you to think about this. if you think about a neighborhood, whoever controls the open public space of the neighborhood controls the quality of life for the people that live there. think about your neighborhood, think about where you grew up, especially in our urban centers. whoever controls that open space controls the quality of life. if gang leaders and drug dealers control it, people live in fear. if the police control it, people feel oppressed. the job is not to stop and frisk, not to take thousands of people to jail, it is to empower and work with the community to take control of their own public space so that they can be alive, well, and that their activity will reduce crime. it's all about regaining control of these neighborhoods by the community, with the community, and not against it and not fighting it. so in 30 years i would tell you we're at a defining moment in american policing history. we have a small window of comfort to conquer any crisis. but the window of opportunity will close very quickly and is usually replaced by past mistakes. three let's not go down that road and keep repeating mistakes. let's talk about excessive force. let's talk about supporting officers and not every cop is bad, not every young person is bad. we need to have the courage to talk about discussions, we need courage to talk about the future, we need to come together. when it's time for me to leave this office, i want to be able to say that we came together, that we worked together and that the country is better for it. i'll tell you something, when i look at the officers right now -- and i would tell you this -- look at the leadership that travel that travel this country. take solace in knowing that i'm seeing a new generation of officers that are smarter -- people will get mad at me for saying this but i'm saying it, anyway -- that come across more diverse environments. i'm seeing police want to learn, so let's not make this a fight or a debate. let's make it a dialogue, let's work together. i look forward to the questions you have. i'll get you back later, phil, but thank you. [ applause ] >> it is now my absolute pleasure, it's an honor, to introduce the representative of michigan's 13th district and the man who has introduced more civil rights legislation than any other individual in the history of this country, representative john conyers. [ applause ] >> top of the morning, everybody. great to be here, and i'm pleased to be here to help convene the annual forum on criminal justice reform. this year we're joined by policing practices experts to help us gain a better understanding of the challenges to resolving the growing divide between the police and minority communities which they serve. i say that carefully. we want to understand the challenges to resolve the growing divide between the police and minority communities which they serve. the tragic deaths of michael brown, eric garner, walter scott, freddie gray have sparked pain and outrage in communities across the nation calling for congressional action. now, for many in our communities, the death of these men, along with many others, represents a continuing and dangerous cycle of disproportionate use of force against men of color. we must

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