Transcripts For CSPAN3 Key Capitol Hill Hearings 20150417 :

Obviously the court in d. C. Issued an injunction, which i know that youre complying with. But the problem is the bonds have been set so high. If youre from Central America being held in prison for six, seven, eight months with your children, you dont have 10,000 to get out. Are we taking a look at alternatives to detention for people whose cases, whose credible fear findings have already been made . We certainly are looking at alternatives for detention, as you well may know. We have quite a few families on the att program. Its essentially release but with some increased supervision. And we have enjoyed some success with the program. I will say every decision that our officers make, and they use their best judgment, theyre trained. Theyre seasoned. To try to determine what the appropriate bond is once they say, okay, you should be released. But we need some well, i would like to follow up with you. Were hearing something quite different and you know, well get to the bottom of it off calendar. I would like to use the i would like to use the remainder of my time to let you answer mr. Smiths question about who youre releasing and the other circumstances required for you to release. As i say, the congress, not this particular congress, but the congress has laid forth due process for any individual, whether theyve come into our country illegally or not, with respect to the claims for relief from deportation. So often they go through the proceedings and we comply with those requirements. The considerations, the statute and the regulations themselves contemplate, contemplate the release of criminals, because it says, as one of the factors to consider in determining is the persons criminal history. How long ago was it . What was the severity of it . How extensive is it . Those kinds of considerations. So even the congress has contemplated that some people were released, and its certainly part of it. Time of the gentlewoman has expired. If i may just have 30 seconds additional. Without objection. If a judge orders the individual release, you comply with that order . I do. Thank you, mr. Chairman. I yield back. The chair recognizes the gentleman from ohio, mr. Chabot, for five minutes. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Thank you, madame director for being here this morning. Ice released, as identify heard before, over 36,000 criminal aliens in 2013 and nearly 31,000 in 2014. Many of us are really shocked and consider this to be quite an appalling policy. You mentioned one of the new policies addressing this problem is a, quote, senior manager review of a discretionary release of decisions for criminals convicted of violence. Unquote. How is this an improvement . Instead of allowing people in the field to make decisions. You have a bureaucratic headquarters, and lets face it. Often times the folks out in the field are already micro managed by folks at the headquarters on decisions that agents often times have to make in the field when theyre facing a situation, which its hard to know back at headquarters what theyre actually dealing with out there in real life situations. And then ultimately approving the release of a violent criminal alien. Shouldnt the policy response to ice releasing violent criminal aliens be not to release violent criminal aliens . I have mentioned the due process requirements talked about earlier. But sir, the policy i initiated is a response to this committee and every member of congress, i believe, to the release of criminal aliens. I myself have a concern. Are we making the proper decisions. Do we have a process in place to review those decisions . And thats what i exactly announced back last month in march. You will have a local supervisor, including the Field Office Director, the top person in the field, reviewing the decision. You will also have a group a small group of very well seasoned managers who will review the decisions. I want to be sure that the process is followed to ensure that we are not putting were not institutionally putting dangerous criminals on the street. So thats why ive asked for the additional review to satisfy myself and you all. To the extend possible, i would encourage you to allow the experienced men and women that are actually on the streets and dealing with these life and death decisions to make those decisions, if at all possible. Let me move onto another area. While i appreciate the use of new technologies are potentially useful Law Enforcement tools, i do have some concerns with the department of homeland securitys recent announcement that its offering up a contract for companies to monitor peoples license plates. In particular im concerned the Government Programs that capture images and collect data of innocent americans raises a serious privacy concerns. Just a year ago your agency canceled similar plans to a National License plate tracking system. Your agencys more recent request comes at a time when your agency has failed to enforce current laws that has resulted in an 18 decrease in criminal alien removals and the release of over 36,000 criminals, as weve already discussed to some degree. Why are we to believe that your agency will properly use this new license plate data and technology, when your agency has a track record of not enforcing u. S. Immigration laws, and the collection of a persons location while in public and collected over time is Sensitive Information and should be treated as such. What assurances can you give that the personal information for the most part innocent people, because thats who will usually be attracted. People that have done nothing wrong, that are citizens. How can we ensure their rights are protected and their Civil Liberties maintained . Obviously thats a great concern to the American Public and myself, sir, given recent revelations. That is the very reason i wasnt here at the time. The decision was made to withdraw the bid. But its my understanding thats the very reason it was withdrawn, so they can make sure there was Safety Measures in place, that the information is handled properly. That privacy concerns be paramount. As an assistant United States attorney prosecuting attorneys agent, from all federal agencies, the more information you have with respect to a person in the middle of an investigation, not the innocence, but in the middle of the investigation, its helpful to the investigation to have that. So were going to be balancing the investigative utility as well as the privacy concerns of individuals. Thank you. My time is about to expire. Let me conclude by stating theres a lot of skepticism about the way the law is being enforced and the way its not being enforced by this administration, and we certainly hope the administration will reconsider the way its been enforcing the law, i yield back. The chair recognizes the gentlewoman from texas, miss jackson lee, for five minutes. Thank you very much to this the ranking member, mrs. Saldana, for your leadership to the nation and for being an outstanding texas. Were all very proud of you. Delighted to see you standing sitting before us today and know that you bring a sense of knowledge and passion to this position. He me indicate my appreciation for ice. I have worked with them over the years, if i might say, and find them to be commendable and to be concerned about the security of this nation. I think that is very important. You will find as you come to congress that there are, the First Amendment rights of members allow them to have different perspectives and views, and also representing their constituents. And that is what this house represents, this committee represents and democracy represents. But we also have an order of three branches of government and the responsibilities of the president and your responsibility in compliance with the guidelines of the administration. And so my first question to you is do you accept the concept of prosecutorial discretion . Your mic, please. I do. And i have for the last several years as an assistant United States attorney and u. S. Attorney, its vital. I do know there were aspects of the proposed executive action that my department opined about and carefully studded and they made recommendations regarding parts of it that were not appropriate ultimately and parts that were. And so, as i said earlier, i could not, as a United States attorney enforce every law in the books. It makes total sense. It is rational to say we need to focus our resources. Thank you. My time is short, so im going to have to go on. With that premise, then, i think it should be very clear that the present Court Proceedings deal with the president s executive actions, is that your understanding . The ones in south texas have to do with dapa and doca. That is correct. So they do not deal with the overall order or action regarding the the use of prosecutorial discretion that ice can utilize. Thats true. And i made that very clear to the field. I think thats a very important point. I asked that you make that point over and over again. I would like to read into the record priority one under the humane enforcement policy deals with terrorists, National Security threats, persons apprehended at the border for enumerated felons. Priority two would be persons convicted of three or more misdemeanors other than traffic offenses predicated on immigration status. Im reading very quickly. And priority three would be persons issued a final order removal after january 1st, 2014. Does that give comply with the sense that you have . Absolutely. So let me ask these two questions. First of all, i had a gentleman that was not an enforcement priority. Yet he was detained in october 2014 and removed to honduras in february 2015. He lived in houston. He had lived here since 2005. He had a voluntary return in 2005 to honduras but came back. He was here. He had no deportation order, to my understanding. He was driven by his wife. When a car was pulled over, put into custody. He was married to a u. S. Permanent resident. Has a u. S. Citizen stepchild, but he was deported. I think there is a disconnect between here in washington and the appropriate procedures that our ice officers need to use. Tell me what youre doing to make sure that they are fully educated. The second question, can you tell me what youre doing to ensure the the Detention Centers, are hospitable and humane to our families and children . And i would appreciate your answers on those questions. Yes, let me start with the latter. I personally went to visit the facility outside of san antonio in texas. Have not made it to the others yet, but i intend to. I observed for myself, and thats the only way i satisfy myself, that things are as they should be. That our requirements and Safety Measures and humane treatment of folks are satisfied there. With respect to fully educating and mr. Alberados case. But go ahead. And i cannot comment on a specific case. Youre staff can take it then. I continue to meet personally with Field Office Directors to make sure that these priorities are being enforced equally and properly. And by the way on our website, we do have a complaint process, that if somebody has, even a detainee, has some concern, that they have a process to go through, even up to i dont encourage this every day, but with respect to concerns they cant be satisfied, they start locally and work themselves up. Lawyers can then adhere to the fact that the discretion prosecutorial discretion does exist and they can raise this with the ice officers for their clients . Yes, thats correct. Ive met with the chief counsel to make that clear. I yield back. I thank the gentle lady for her service to the nation. Chair recognizes mr. Forbes for five minutes. As my colleague mr. Gowdy said, we told you in highest esteem. This Committee Works a lot on policy and trying to get policy correct. So let me ask you this question. If i have an individual speed on our highways, should they be apprehended and charged differently if they have lived in the country longer than someone else, or if they go to school here, or if they have a job, or if they are pregnant, or if they have a Serious Health problem . Should they be treated differently . No. Should they be apprehended and charged the same whether they have one of those conditions or not . That should not be a distinction with respect to an officer pursuing he should charge and apprehend them the same way . Recognizing their discretion. Police officers have discretion whether to give a ticket or not. Do they have the discretion based on whether or not someone is pregnant to give them a ticket or not . Should they not give a ticket no one should be treated differently. No one should be treated differently. And is that a basic theory of law . Yes, we try to be very fair, sir. Then tell me why that is different when you would suggest that you have prosecutorial discretion, that i could enter a blanket order or regulation that would say that anyone who was in the country longer or went to school here or had a job or pregnant or had a Serious Health problem would be treated differently if they were speeding on a highway . And i think you would object to that but let me go to another point. We had testimony before this committee that, as in some of our violent criminal gangs, as many as 85 of the members are here illegally. Would you agree that if someone was here illegally in this country, and they were a member of a violent criminal gang, that they should be apprehended and deported . Yes, sir, and thats actually part of priority one. So you would agree with that. Then with all of the individuals, the criminal aliens that were released in 2013 and 2014, can you tell me how many of those were members of violent criminal gangs or members of criminal gangs at all . I cant off the top of my head. Do you have that record . Do you have that information . I am not sure, sir. But i will but youre just telling me as the director of ice that it is a priority to get violent criminal gang members out of the country. That is one of your Top Priorities. And yet youre telling me you dont even know if we have records of how many released or did not release. There may be a way to do it manually, sir. Thats not what im asking, madame director. Youre coming in today telling us one of the Top Priorities you have is getting criminal gang members out of the country who are here illegally. Thats correct. But yet you cant even tell this committee that you have the data to tell how many of them you released back i cant give you that number. I suspect manually one can make that search and give you that. But you dont know whether you can do it. Off the top of my head, i cant tell you what the number is, sir. Madame director, im not ask you for the number. Im asking do you have any way of telling which of the individuals you released in 2013, 2014, or youre releasing currently are members of criminal gangs . I believe so. But it may require a manual search and a little time to come up with that number. But right now you cant testify before this committee that as the director of ice you know whether you have a process of determining the criminal gang members that are being released by ice back into the streets of the United States of america . I believe that is the case, except i believe it would require a manual search. We dont necessarily have that. If you did the manual search, what would you search . How would you find the files. The files wouldnt necessarily be convicted if i may finish my answer. Sure, please. The files, we refer to them as an afile. That has all the immigration information of a particular undocumented alien. But youre looking back at a criminal record that may not show that they were convicted under a being a criminal gang member. Do you have anything where youre asking the criminal aliens before theyre released if they were members of criminal gang . We dont just rely on the answer of a particular undocumented immigrant. But you ask . We may ask. And we will rely on our investigative resources to find that out, sir. Its not just accepting the word of a person. Can you tell this committee that you are at least asking . Again, i cant tell you in every case. Madame director, my time is up. It bothers me tremendously when as the director ofitis, you come in here and tell us one of your number one priorities you basically dont have a clue whether you can do it, are doing, and thats something that frightens all of us. I believe i answered otherwise, sir. I think the record will show differently. Mr. Chairman, i yield back. Chair thanks the gentleman. Recognizes the gentleman from georgia, mr. Johnson, for five minutes. Thank you. Maam, the kearns county Residential Center is actually a privately run for profit Detention Center, is that correct . I believe so. So its the Detention Center, not the Residential Center, which sounds a whole lot nicer. But its accused of being a place where countless women have been raped by male guards. Are you aware of the reports . Im aware of the allegations. And also as a Residential Center, families are held in detention, and when i say families, i basically mean women and their minor children, thats whos housed there, correct . Yes. I would like to ill let you come back in a second. When a mother is put in a medical isolation room, the child or her children are assigned to that room with her. Isnt that a fact . Are you talking about a particular case . Im not aware of that. Generally when a woman is assigned to a medical isolation room, her child would be assigned to that room. As per the reports, ill put into the record at this point, the mothers and children allegedly locked in a dark room for protesting detention conditions, and also thats a think progress article. And also for the record, i would like to tender a New York Times Magazine Article entitled a federal judge and a Hunger Strike take on the governments detention facility. Without objection. And youre aware of those reports of the Central America<\/a> being held in prison for six, seven, eight months with your children, you dont have 10,000 to get out. Are we taking a look at alternatives to detention for people whose cases, whose credible fear findings have already been made . We certainly are looking at alternatives for detention, as you well may know. We have quite a few families on the att program. Its essentially release but with some increased supervision. And we have enjoyed some success with the program. I will say every decision that our officers make, and they use their best judgment, theyre trained. Theyre seasoned. To try to determine what the appropriate bond is once they say, okay, you should be released. But we need some well, i would like to follow up with you. Were hearing something quite different and you know, well get to the bottom of it off calendar. I would like to use the i would like to use the remainder of my time to let you answer mr. Smiths question about who youre releasing and the other circumstances required for you to release. As i say, the congress, not this particular congress, but the congress has laid forth due process for any individual, whether theyve come into our country illegally or not, with respect to the claims for relief from deportation. So often they go through the proceedings and we comply with those requirements. The considerations, the statute and the regulations themselves contemplate, contemplate the release of criminals, because it says, as one of the factors to consider in determining is the persons criminal history. How long ago was it . What was the severity of it . How extensive is it . Those kinds of considerations. So even the congress has contemplated that some people were released, and its certainly part of it. Time of the gentlewoman has expired. If i may just have 30 seconds additional. Without objection. If a judge orders the individual release, you comply with that order . I do. Thank you, mr. Chairman. I yield back. The chair recognizes the gentleman from ohio, mr. Chabot, for five minutes. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Thank you, madame director for being here this morning. Ice released, as identify heard before, over 36,000 criminal aliens in 2013 and nearly 31,000 in 2014. Many of us are really shocked and consider this to be quite an appalling policy. You mentioned one of the new policies addressing this problem is a, quote, senior manager review of a discretionary release of decisions for criminals convicted of violence. Unquote. How is this an improvement . Instead of allowing people in the field to make decisions. You have a bureaucratic headquarters, and lets face it. Often times the folks out in the field are already micro managed by folks at the headquarters on decisions that agents often times have to make in the field when theyre facing a situation, which its hard to know back at headquarters what theyre actually dealing with out there in real life situations. And then ultimately approving the release of a violent criminal alien. Shouldnt the policy response to ice releasing violent criminal aliens be not to release violent criminal aliens . I have mentioned the due process requirements talked about earlier. But sir, the policy i initiated is a response to this committee and every member of congress, i believe, to the release of criminal aliens. I myself have a concern. Are we making the proper decisions. Do we have a process in place to review those decisions . And thats what i exactly announced back last month in march. You will have a local supervisor, including the Field Office Director<\/a>, the top person in the field, reviewing the decision. You will also have a group a small group of very well seasoned managers who will review the decisions. I want to be sure that the process is followed to ensure that we are not putting were not institutionally putting dangerous criminals on the street. So thats why ive asked for the additional review to satisfy myself and you all. To the extend possible, i would encourage you to allow the experienced men and women that are actually on the streets and dealing with these life and death decisions to make those decisions, if at all possible. Let me move onto another area. While i appreciate the use of new technologies are potentially useful Law Enforcement<\/a> tools, i do have some concerns with the department of homeland securitys recent announcement that its offering up a contract for companies to monitor peoples license plates. In particular im concerned the Government Programs<\/a> that capture images and collect data of innocent americans raises a serious privacy concerns. Just a year ago your agency canceled similar plans to a National License<\/a> plate tracking system. Your agencys more recent request comes at a time when your agency has failed to enforce current laws that has resulted in an 18 decrease in criminal alien removals and the release of over 36,000 criminals, as weve already discussed to some degree. Why are we to believe that your agency will properly use this new license plate data and technology, when your agency has a track record of not enforcing u. S. Immigration laws, and the collection of a persons location while in public and collected over time is Sensitive Information<\/a> and should be treated as such. What assurances can you give that the personal information for the most part innocent people, because thats who will usually be attracted. People that have done nothing wrong, that are citizens. How can we ensure their rights are protected and their Civil Liberties<\/a> maintained . Obviously thats a great concern to the American Public<\/a> and myself, sir, given recent revelations. That is the very reason i wasnt here at the time. The decision was made to withdraw the bid. But its my understanding thats the very reason it was withdrawn, so they can make sure there was Safety Measures<\/a> in place, that the information is handled properly. That privacy concerns be paramount. As an assistant United States<\/a> attorney prosecuting attorneys agent, from all federal agencies, the more information you have with respect to a person in the middle of an investigation, not the innocence, but in the middle of the investigation, its helpful to the investigation to have that. So were going to be balancing the investigative utility as well as the privacy concerns of individuals. Thank you. My time is about to expire. Let me conclude by stating theres a lot of skepticism about the way the law is being enforced and the way its not being enforced by this administration, and we certainly hope the administration will reconsider the way its been enforcing the law, i yield back. The chair recognizes the gentlewoman from texas, miss jackson lee, for five minutes. Thank you very much to this the ranking member, mrs. Saldana, for your leadership to the nation and for being an outstanding texas. Were all very proud of you. Delighted to see you standing sitting before us today and know that you bring a sense of knowledge and passion to this position. He me indicate my appreciation for ice. I have worked with them over the years, if i might say, and find them to be commendable and to be concerned about the security of this nation. I think that is very important. You will find as you come to congress that there are, the First Amendment<\/a> rights of members allow them to have different perspectives and views, and also representing their constituents. And that is what this house represents, this committee represents and democracy represents. But we also have an order of three branches of government and the responsibilities of the president and your responsibility in compliance with the guidelines of the administration. And so my first question to you is do you accept the concept of prosecutorial discretion . Your mic, please. I do. And i have for the last several years as an assistant United States<\/a> attorney and u. S. Attorney, its vital. I do know there were aspects of the proposed executive action that my department opined about and carefully studded and they made recommendations regarding parts of it that were not appropriate ultimately and parts that were. And so, as i said earlier, i could not, as a United States<\/a> attorney enforce every law in the books. It makes total sense. It is rational to say we need to focus our resources. Thank you. My time is short, so im going to have to go on. With that premise, then, i think it should be very clear that the present Court Proceedings<\/a> deal with the president s executive actions, is that your understanding . The ones in south texas have to do with dapa and doca. That is correct. So they do not deal with the overall order or action regarding the the use of prosecutorial discretion that ice can utilize. Thats true. And i made that very clear to the field. I think thats a very important point. I asked that you make that point over and over again. I would like to read into the record priority one under the humane enforcement policy deals with terrorists, National Security<\/a> threats, persons apprehended at the border for enumerated felons. Priority two would be persons convicted of three or more misdemeanors other than traffic offenses predicated on immigration status. Im reading very quickly. And priority three would be persons issued a final order removal after january 1st, 2014. Does that give comply with the sense that you have . Absolutely. So let me ask these two questions. First of all, i had a gentleman that was not an enforcement priority. Yet he was detained in october 2014 and removed to honduras in february 2015. He lived in houston. He had lived here since 2005. He had a voluntary return in 2005 to honduras but came back. He was here. He had no deportation order, to my understanding. He was driven by his wife. When a car was pulled over, put into custody. He was married to a u. S. Permanent resident. Has a u. S. Citizen stepchild, but he was deported. I think there is a disconnect between here in washington and the appropriate procedures that our ice officers need to use. Tell me what youre doing to make sure that they are fully educated. The second question, can you tell me what youre doing to ensure the the Detention Center<\/a>s, are hospitable and humane to our families and children . And i would appreciate your answers on those questions. Yes, let me start with the latter. I personally went to visit the facility outside of san antonio in texas. Have not made it to the others yet, but i intend to. I observed for myself, and thats the only way i satisfy myself, that things are as they should be. That our requirements and Safety Measures<\/a> and humane treatment of folks are satisfied there. With respect to fully educating and mr. Alberados case. But go ahead. And i cannot comment on a specific case. Youre staff can take it then. I continue to meet personally with Field Office Directors<\/a> to make sure that these priorities are being enforced equally and properly. And by the way on our website, we do have a complaint process, that if somebody has, even a detainee, has some concern, that they have a process to go through, even up to i dont encourage this every day, but with respect to concerns they cant be satisfied, they start locally and work themselves up. Lawyers can then adhere to the fact that the discretion prosecutorial discretion does exist and they can raise this with the ice officers for their clients . Yes, thats correct. Ive met with the chief counsel to make that clear. I yield back. I thank the gentle lady for her service to the nation. Chair recognizes mr. Forbes for five minutes. As my colleague mr. Gowdy said, we told you in highest esteem. This Committee Works<\/a> a lot on policy and trying to get policy correct. So let me ask you this question. If i have an individual speed on our highways, should they be apprehended and charged differently if they have lived in the country longer than someone else, or if they go to school here, or if they have a job, or if they are pregnant, or if they have a Serious Health<\/a> problem . Should they be treated differently . No. Should they be apprehended and charged the same whether they have one of those conditions or not . That should not be a distinction with respect to an officer pursuing he should charge and apprehend them the same way . Recognizing their discretion. Police officers have discretion whether to give a ticket or not. Do they have the discretion based on whether or not someone is pregnant to give them a ticket or not . Should they not give a ticket no one should be treated differently. No one should be treated differently. And is that a basic theory of law . Yes, we try to be very fair, sir. Then tell me why that is different when you would suggest that you have prosecutorial discretion, that i could enter a blanket order or regulation that would say that anyone who was in the country longer or went to school here or had a job or pregnant or had a Serious Health<\/a> problem would be treated differently if they were speeding on a highway . And i think you would object to that but let me go to another point. We had testimony before this committee that, as in some of our violent criminal gangs, as many as 85 of the members are here illegally. Would you agree that if someone was here illegally in this country, and they were a member of a violent criminal gang, that they should be apprehended and deported . Yes, sir, and thats actually part of priority one. So you would agree with that. Then with all of the individuals, the criminal aliens that were released in 2013 and 2014, can you tell me how many of those were members of violent criminal gangs or members of criminal gangs at all . I cant off the top of my head. Do you have that record . Do you have that information . I am not sure, sir. But i will but youre just telling me as the director of ice that it is a priority to get violent criminal gang members out of the country. That is one of your Top Priorities<\/a>. And yet youre telling me you dont even know if we have records of how many released or did not release. There may be a way to do it manually, sir. Thats not what im asking, madame director. Youre coming in today telling us one of the Top Priorities<\/a> you have is getting criminal gang members out of the country who are here illegally. Thats correct. But yet you cant even tell this committee that you have the data to tell how many of them you released back i cant give you that number. I suspect manually one can make that search and give you that. But you dont know whether you can do it. Off the top of my head, i cant tell you what the number is, sir. Madame director, im not ask you for the number. Im asking do you have any way of telling which of the individuals you released in 2013, 2014, or youre releasing currently are members of criminal gangs . I believe so. But it may require a manual search and a little time to come up with that number. But right now you cant testify before this committee that as the director of ice you know whether you have a process of determining the criminal gang members that are being released by ice back into the streets of the United States<\/a> of america . I believe that is the case, except i believe it would require a manual search. We dont necessarily have that. If you did the manual search, what would you search . How would you find the files. The files wouldnt necessarily be convicted if i may finish my answer. Sure, please. The files, we refer to them as an afile. That has all the immigration information of a particular undocumented alien. But youre looking back at a criminal record that may not show that they were convicted under a being a criminal gang member. Do you have anything where youre asking the criminal aliens before theyre released if they were members of criminal gang . We dont just rely on the answer of a particular undocumented immigrant. But you ask . We may ask. And we will rely on our investigative resources to find that out, sir. Its not just accepting the word of a person. Can you tell this committee that you are at least asking . Again, i cant tell you in every case. Madame director, my time is up. It bothers me tremendously when as the director ofitis, you come in here and tell us one of your number one priorities you basically dont have a clue whether you can do it, are doing, and thats something that frightens all of us. I believe i answered otherwise, sir. I think the record will show differently. Mr. Chairman, i yield back. Chair thanks the gentleman. Recognizes the gentleman from georgia, mr. Johnson, for five minutes. Thank you. Maam, the kearns county Residential Center<\/a> is actually a privately run for profit Detention Center<\/a>, is that correct . I believe so. So its the Detention Center<\/a>, not the Residential Center<\/a>, which sounds a whole lot nicer. But its accused of being a place where countless women have been raped by male guards. Are you aware of the reports . Im aware of the allegations. And also as a Residential Center<\/a>, families are held in detention, and when i say families, i basically mean women and their minor children, thats whos housed there, correct . Yes. I would like to ill let you come back in a second. When a mother is put in a medical isolation room, the child or her children are assigned to that room with her. Isnt that a fact . Are you talking about a particular case . Im not aware of that. Generally when a woman is assigned to a medical isolation room, her child would be assigned to that room. As per the reports, ill put into the record at this point, the mothers and children allegedly locked in a dark room for protesting detention conditions, and also thats a think progress article. And also for the record, i would like to tender a New York Times<\/a> Magazine Article<\/a> entitled a federal judge and a Hunger Strike<\/a> take on the governments detention facility. Without objection. And youre aware of those reports of the Hunger Strike<\/a> and the woman with the 11yearold child placed into a medical isolation unit. And the assertion in the New York Times<\/a> article that theres barbed wires at the facility, which is not the case. But in those medical units, those units, this woman who had the 11yearold child that was assigned to the room with her is a cell with a bed bolted to the wall. And an open shower and an open toilet in that room. And its basically a detention jail cell. Isnt that correct . Im not aware of that incident, sir. Youre not aware of that . I am not aware of that. Would it trouble you to know that women and children, because the mother participated in whats called a fast, others call it a Hunger Strike<\/a>. But she participated in it and was assigned as a punitive measure to that medical isolation unit. Would it trouble you is that something you also got out of the New York Times<\/a> article . Ive received the information from republican as well as democratic staff who actually took a visit within the last two weeks to that facility and spoke with the woman and the 11yearold son. Congressman, if thats a fact, that disturbs me greatly. Im happy to visit with you regarding a specific instance. I cannot on the record go into the specific facts of individual cases. Well, maam, you have taken an oath, and i would like to ask you, pursuant to that oath, that would you supply me with the quarterly reports compiled by the Detention Monitoring Council<\/a> subcommittee per 7. 5, subsection 7, of the directive titled review of the segregation for ice detainees that was issued on september 4th, 2013, as well as a list of all facilities designated for heightened review under section 7. 5, subsection 5 of that directive. And also all surveys, audits, reviews, memos, and other reports by ice, opr or ice, odpp, dhs, or dhscrcl, regarding one, the use of segregation in ice facilities and the use of medical isolation cells in ice facilities. And also the full contents of management system. The data base created by ice to monitor use of segregation following implementation of the directive. Would you be willing to supply my office with those copies . And ill send you a written request. Thank you very much, sir. Because i stopped writing. I couldnt quite keep up. Included in that ig report, i just wanted to mention to you. You will supply me to those . To the extent they exist. I couldnt keep up with the entire list. If you provide it in writing, i will certainly try to run them down. Okay. And included in that sir, i wanted to mention the ig report on the karnes sexual allegation that made an investigation and decided there was not sufficient evidence to support the allegations. Ive heard the gentlemans time is expired. Gentleman from iowa, mr. King is recognized for five minutes. Thank you, mr. Chairman, thank you director for your testimony. Thank you, i appreciate the chairmans remarks about cooperating prior to this hearing. I understand that youre in a difficult position in this job. I would note the irony that one side is angry when you enforce a law. The other side is angry when you dont enforce a law. And so i happen to be on the side of the latter. But im curious about a few things here. And one of them is, i noticed in your written testimony that you have participated in high level discussions with Mexican Government<\/a> officials sdising opportunities to more rapidly repatriate nationals. And ive also met with officials where each pledged to do our part to stem the tide of citizens of those countries. I think we understand in this committee what all that means. Im curious on what you learned because we have passed legislation here in the house, i think a couple of times that would require those kind of negotiations to establish i think ill use the term, an expedited return for the unaccompanied alien juveniles to the countries that i mentioned in your testimony. Did you see a level of cooperation there . Do you think it would be possible to negotiate the terms of return for the unaccompanied alien juveniles to those countries . And i think i mentioned in my written statement, if i didnt, i was reminiscent in overlooking it, the pilot initiatives in which we have representatives from those countries here in order to expedite real removal of those people from the country. You dont have to wait for congress to tell you, do we . Im not waiting on it. Were discussing it, as i said. Whose decision could it be then . Could director johnson issue a directive that we complete the negotiations and begin to return the unaccompanied alien juveniles to their home countries . Well, were doing that now. Were negotiating. Were talking. Were working hard with them. Does he have the authority to issue such an order . Legal authority, sir, i just havent studied the question. Then are you aware of an agreement between guatemala and mexico to provide for expedited transit for guatemalans who are on their way to illegally enter the United States<\/a>, and to grant in mexico the 72hour transit permit . I believe there were discussions when i met in february to that effect. Yes. And i recall a press release from a press conference from the president of mexico and the president of guatemala who announced the agreement. I recall the president of mexico saying they hope to be able to complete such agreements, also with el salvador and honduras. Has that come to your attention . It has, yes. Then i would ask then how do we consider them to be cooperative countries if theyre cooperating with each other to expedite the removal of their own citizens across through mexico and illegally enter the United States<\/a> . Actually, sir, the mexican authorities stopping Central America<\/a>ns from coming benefits the United States<\/a> greatly. I agree with that. Theyre giving permits for them to have 72 hours as long as theyre in transit to mcallen, texas. I dont call that cooperating with our policy. I call it contravening. Are they talking out of both sides of their mouths, or is there something im missing . I cant say that. I cant say that theyre talking what i saw were sincere efforts to try to help get their people back. The first lady looked at me very closely and said please until we do take care of our children. I took that to heart. I think it was a sincere comment. We are taking care of the children. Were flying them from places like Guatemala City<\/a> into the United States<\/a> now, completing the Human Trafficking<\/a>. I find it ironic just a year and a half ago. December of 2013, when judge wrote an opinion, that there was a coyote who had smuggled a 10yearold girl into the United States<\/a>. They prosecuted the coyote for Human Trafficking<\/a>. And ice delived delivered the 10yearold girl to her birth mother in virginia. The quote from the opinion, thus completing the crime of Human Trafficking<\/a> by ice. Now were doing it hundreds and thousands of times and buying plane tickets to do that. Its got to be difficult to take an oath to uphold the constitution and support the rule of law when youre watching above you, rather than the fashion that it is. And i give you an opportunity to correct me on my analysis. Sir, we also have a humane approach to the law in the United States<\/a>, unlike other countries. Thats why im so proud to be a member of this country. As part of that, if theres a situation, im not particularly familiar with this one that youre talking about, where a family is reunited, who doesnt present a risk to Public Safety<\/a> or a risk of flight, then i agree with that approach. Our policy reunites them in their home country. Thank you, and i yield back. Gentlemans time expired. The gentleman from puerto rico is recognized for five minutes. Good morning, director saldana. Welcome to the committee. I love the way you say that. Saldana. A lot of the questions so far have involved isis mission to enforce our nations Immigration Law<\/a>s. I want to discuss ices equally Important Mission<\/a> to disrupt and dismantle Drug Trafficking<\/a> organizations. As part of this mission, i know that ice works in partnership with other agencies like the coast guard, d. O. J. Component agencies and state and local Law Enforcement<\/a>. You are an important player in a whole of government effort to combat Drug Trafficking<\/a> and the Violence Associated<\/a> with it. In january 2012, i met with your predecessor. Puerto rico had just experienced the most violent year in the u. S. Territorys history. In 2011, there were 1,136 homicides in puerto rico. That is the equivalent of over three murders a day every day. It was roughly the same number of annual homicides as texas, which has a population seven times greater than puerto ricos. As my colleagues can attest, having heard me question senior official after senior official who have appeared as witnesses before this committee, i have been on a campaign since 2009 to persuade federal Law Enforcement<\/a> agencies to increase the level of attention and resources that they dedicate to puerto rico. So that these resources are commensurate with the threat. The reality was that the level of attention and resources for the federal government was, and i emphasize the word was, clearly deficient. And too often, my constituents were paying the price with their lives. Starting in late 2012, however, the tide began to turn, under the leadership of secretary napolitano, dhs component agencies began to substantially increase the resources they assigned to puerto rico. For example, the coast guard has dramatically increased the number of hours its planes and spent conducting counteroperations around puerto rico and will completely replace the Current Fleet<\/a> of cutters with faster, more modern vessels by mid 2016. Moreover, in 2013, your agency, ice, sent 30 additional agents to puerto rico, where they arrested about 900 violent criminals and seized a great deal of illegal narcotics and weapons. In addition, dhs assigned to Border Security<\/a> task force, the Multi Agency Team<\/a> of federal and local officials assigned to dismantle criminal organizations. Furthermore, cvb, repaired the counter drug raider system in southern puerto rico, which had been destroyed in 2011. Along with congressman of texas, i led the successful effort in congress to save the area program from elimination and to transfer the program from d. O. T. To dhs. Moreover, tsa has enhanced searches of luggage and cargo, transported on flights between puerto rico and the u. S. Mainland for illegal narcotics and weapons. Finally this year, the office of National Drug<\/a> control policy, within the white house, published the first ever caribbean borders counter narcotics strategy, as required by congress. Collectively, these efforts have produced remarkable results. In 2014 there were 681 homicides in puerto rico. That is 40 lower than in 2011. 30 lower than in 2012. And nearly 25 lower than in 2013. You and your colleagues at dhs should feel very proud of this accomplishment, because you played a major role. Never theless, we cannot relent, rather we must sustain and build on this success. Puerto rico still has a higher murder rate of any u. S. State with an average of roughly two homicides each day. I would like to give you an opportunity to tell the committee what ice is currently doing to fight Drug Trafficking<\/a> in puerto rico and what plans ice has for the future. Well, you have identified, i think i mentioned earlier some of hsis successes in this regard including 32000 criminals and 1. 3 Million Pounds<\/a> of narcotics. A substantial part of what we do at hsi, because were focused on Trans National<\/a> criminal investigations is in the drug area. I dont have the specifics with respect to puerto rico, i can certainly share those with you, but those outlying posts are a great concern to me. Because obviously, its harder to manage and under the unity of effort initiative, you had mentioned the coast guard. You mentioned ice. Hsi in particular, obviously border patrol, all of these people and customs and border protection, all of us Work Together<\/a> pursuant to the secretarys direction to try to make sure that these transNational Drug<\/a> smuggling gangs are not successful. We had a number of operations in that regard, operation identity crisis, all of these operations that focus on these kinds of smuggling operations of people and things. Thank you. The gentlemans time has expired. And i recognize the gentleman from arizona. Thank you, and thank you director saldana, i know your job is a difficult one and i would find formidable beyond words. I also know that a lot of the focus of this hearing has been the constitutional question in the president s actions and for a moment, if you could and i understand that you have suggested that perhaps his actions were within the constitutional purview. So for a moment lets put that aside. You took an oath to uphold the constitution as part of your oath. If there were a situation from this administration or other administration you found yourself serving, and there was a an executive order that you were convinced in your heart was clearly unconstitutional, which would hold your commitment . Would it be your oath of office to uphold the constitution or to subordinate the constitution to the executive order given that the president would be your boss . How would you deal with that subject if it were circumstances where it was clear in your mind that the directive from the president was unconstitutional . Well, thats not a difficult question. I mean, i have always in both my u. S. Attorney and assistant u. S. Attorney and director oath have sworn to uphold the law and if it were a matter as clearly as you say that something was clearly unconstitutional, i cant be a part of that. If youre implying thats part of executive action, which i think you set aside, i dont agree thats unconstitutional. But with respect to your general question, of course i would. I appreciate the answer to that. Thats an honorable answer. I hope i would have answered the same way in your circumstances and i know there is the disagreement given thats the issue at hand. You understand that some of us given that the president said 22 times himself that what he was doing was unconstitutional, i think hes put you in a very difficult position and i say that sincerely. I think he has if i were in your place, i would feel in an uncomfortable position. Article one, section 8, clause 4 of the constitution specifically specifically bestows on congress the duty to create Immigration Law<\/a>. This president has rewritten that and i think that puts you in an awkward position and im not going to even ask you to respond because i dont know what i would do if i were you, but it seems clear hes put you in an awkward position. Awkward is being a very significant understatement. The president also said and i know this question was proffered earlier, if somebody is working for ice and they dont follow this policy theres going to be consequences for it. Have you enforced that . Are there consequences for not following that policy . There are consequences for not following the rules of an employees status with the agency what would the consequences be if someone in the position that was required to follow through with the president s directives and again well set the constitutional issue aside for a moment, if the president s done that i guess we could do that. What would be the consequences for doing that . Whether its that directive or assaulting an employee in the office or not abiding by some other rule of policy the range of punishment can be anything from a verbal meeting where you counsel that person to ultimately whats available to any employer and thats termination. In other words, there are employees that work with you that are potentially subjected to termination for not following the president s directive in that particular case . For not following any policy or directive or rule of employment which includes the president s directive. All right. I understand. The difficulty of your position becomes even more apparent i think. Is it true that under the administrations new guidelines that aliens unlawful aliens i should say have to be convicted three times for three separate incidents in order to be deemed a priority for removal . Not they are all categories and could be one serious offense and three misdemeanors, if thats what youre talking about, thats one of the elements in this card. So in this case youre saying potentially its not. Potentially its not true. In other words, if they were convicted of a serious issue that could be basis in and of itself to be required or deemed a priority for removal . Yes, sir. The offenses are listed in here. Is it also true that Border Crossers<\/a> who came to the United States<\/a> after january 1st of 2014 illegally, those who overstayed the terms of visas and fugitives from that law are not required to be processed for removal of the program . The gentlemans time has expired. If you can answer the question. Two seed. Would you like me to read it . Please. Aliens apprehended after unlawful entry or entry into the United States<\/a> and cannot establish the satisfaction of immigration officer they have been physically present since january 1st, 2014 and i want to remind this committee, that theres a general provision with respect to these priorities that give an officer flexibility in making a decision whether someone fits within the priorities and should not be removed should not be put in removal proceedings or does not fit and should be because of their Public Safety<\/a> concerns. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Thank you. I will now recognize the gentle lady from california, mr. Chu. Thank you. Director saldana, the recent expansion of family detention from approximately 80 detention beds to now more than 2400 beds at the Detention Center<\/a> is truly alarming. A vast majority of the women and children escaping the northern triangle region are fleeing domestic and or Gang Violence<\/a> or abuse. In 2011 el salvador had the highest rate of gender related killing in the world. Followed by guatemala and honduras. These women are escaping some of the most dangerous countries in the world to seek protection in the u. S. Instead they and their children face prolonged detention while they fight their asylum claims. In my view theres no way to detain families humanely. When i first learn the average age is 6 years old and even babies and toddlers being detained, i was truly shocked. As a psychologist, i know the Mental Health<\/a> concerns that children and families in detention face. Reports show that children in detention experience weight loss, gastrointestinal problems and suicidal thoughts. In fact, dean of social work at the university of texas austin interviewed several families at the carnes Residential Center<\/a> and found mothers and children showed high levels of anxiety, especially separation anxiety for the children, symptoms of depression and feelings of despair. They showed signs that detention had caused developmental regression and major psychiatric disorders including suicidal ideation. Ongoing stress and despair and uncertainty of detention significantly compromises a childs intellectual and Cognitive Development<\/a> and contributes to the development of chronic illnesses in ways that may be irreversible. These combined with many due process concerns like prohibitively high bonds and difficulty accessing lawyers makes family detention a truly, truly troubling institution. It runs contrary to the 1997 florida Settlement Agreement<\/a> regarding the detention of children. The agreement that juveniles should be held in the least restrictive setting appropriate to their age and special needs. And generally in a nonsecure facility licensed to care for dependent minors. And it said that detaining children in prisonlike facilities both secure and unlicensed runs contrary to very heart of the flores agreement. As we speak, flores counsel petitioned the court to reinforce the agreement in light of the expansion on family detention. Given the concern regarding the mental and physical Health Effects<\/a> on children in prolonged detention, i urge you to adopt a family detention policy that minimizes the lengthy detention of children. And use more humane alternatives for detention. My staff attended a live bond proceeding for a mother and a 5yearold child who had been sexually assaulted. The child was suffering from severe psychological stress while being detained at arttesia, the family had already been detained three months before the bond hearing. Yet the 2014 priorities states that Field Office Director<\/a> should not expend detention resources on aliens known to be suffering from serious physical or mental illness. How do you reconcile detaining mothers and children with such serious physical and Mental Health<\/a> illnesses in light of the directives and priorities memo. If you can answer these two questions, the lengthy detention of children as well as the detention of children with mental illness. Well, im not going to comment on the litigation but there are two separate issues, one is unaccompanied children who we do not detain and those that are coming over with families. I said earlier i wanted to satisfy myself that our detention facilities for families were operating securely, safely and humanely. Thats why i visited back in february, a month after i came on board. I found that to be the case. In fact, i was very impressed with two teachers i met for these children who are there in the facility and the openness of the facility. And these teachers who i visited with who said whose commitment and love mind you i was a schoolteacher at one time. Commitment and love for their children and children they were educating, was very evident. The facility was wonderful the technology they had for these kids was incredible. Im not sure i could operate some of the interactive items that they have. But thats an issue of great concern to us, maam, under that order that were under with respect to family detention, we have reviewed all of those people that are members of that class. A number of those families have been released. You know, one of our problems is the immigration courts and trying to get a resolution and a decision based on credible fear or whatever there is to move on with respect to these families and have them know whats going to happen with them. Thats a matter of i think the last number i saw was Something Like<\/a> 480,000 backlogged cases in the immigration courts that are under the department of justice. I urge this committee to the extent theres anything you can do to help those courts to get more judges, that would help with our disposition and request for 2016 for more lawyers to assist us to get these people through the process so they dont have to be waiting or be detained. Thank you, the gentleladys time has expired. Now i recognize the gentleman from south carolina. And chairman of the subcommittee on immigration. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Madam director, i want to thank you for your service as a prosecutor and as a school teacher, i am biased towards both. I hope that my questioning does not reflect that bias but i do thank you for doing both of those jobs are incredibly hard. I thank you for your service. You have cited the case that explains 8 of the releases. How about the other 92 . Im sorry, sir . 8 of any releases . 8 of the 30,558 convicted criminal alien releases were under the holding of that case. In 2014, yes. So 92 were not another 10,000 were under orders from the immigration courts that we have to comply with. Right. I want to back up and ask you to put on your old hat. The prosecutorial disdregs what are the limits of prosecutorial discretion . On a situational basis, i think youre very familiar with the process where you kind of have to decide can you take a fraud case with a Million Dollar<\/a> loss that is substantial to many victims or do you have to limit it to cases above 5 million. It depends on resources and safety issues in your specific community. There would be declination levels based on the amount of loss and drug amounts and bank robberies, usually depending on how good the case was, but i am gration cases cant go state or federal. They can only go federal. So you mentioned in your testimony that you counted 3,000 statutes that were responsible for enforcing as a United States<\/a> attorney. How many of those 3,000 did you announce ahead of time that you were not going to prosecute anyone under that particular statute . Announce it to the general public . Ahead of time. No, i didnt do that. Right. I think many people knew what they were somehow. You know, you cant limit everybody. And we shared priorities with the federal agencies. Sure, but, again, you always have the recourse of going through the state. The state can vindicate its texas has narcotic statutes and texas has fraud statutes and bad check statutes. Theres always a safety net, the state could step in. Thats correct. I am stunned and im sure you may be too i dont want to put words in your mouth. You work with state and local Law Enforcement<\/a> as a prosecutor, right . Yes, sir. And you would work with them in the full range of cases from child pornography to you name it, theres a state and local officer at the table with federal officers. Thats absolutely correct. Why are my colleagues on the other side of the aisle to resistant to giving state and local Law Enforcement<\/a> officers any role at all in immigration . To the extent they are here, i guess you could ask them. Im not sure i can answer for anybody else. Well, in their defense, ill give you the excuses that i get, that the statute is too complicated. That you cant expect them to understand the complexities of our Immigration Law<\/a>, as if dui laws are not also complex. I cant speak to that. The state and local Law Enforcement<\/a> officers you work with, did you think they were capable of understanding the complexities of Immigration Law<\/a> . No, that someone on the other side of the aisle has that view. I dont know that. Well, they do. Let me ask you this. Prosecutorial discretion, does it apply in all categories of law . Some laws require you to do Something Like<\/a> register for Selective Service<\/a>, some forbid you from doing something, like possession of narcotics, and some laws, for instance congress could make you issue us a report. Are you able to exercise prosecutorial discretion in all three of those categories of law . I can with respect to the first one. I know you would be on my case, if i did with respect to the third one, so i cant say no. And cant remember the second one. The laws that force you to do something, register for Selective Service<\/a> . I mean, i dont enforce that law, registration for Selective Service<\/a>. I know. Youre a smart lawyer. And youve got a broad background. I really all politics aside, i think its important that our fellow citizens understand whether there are any limits to this prosecutorial discretion, my time is up and i know the gentleman from idaho will gavel me in just a second. Theres a big difference between you exercising your discretion not to do a 20,000 fraud case in texas and your decision to confer benefits on that same group. Those are two entirely separate legal concepts and regardless of whos in the white house or what job you and i have, its important we have lines so people understand the limits of this thing we call prosecutorial discretion is. With that ill yield to the gentleman from idaho. Thank you very much. I know recognize the gentlelady from washington. Thank you for being here with us today. Many of my colleagues have talked about the terrible conditions in family detention camps and in Detention Center<\/a>s we have a Detention Center<\/a> in my region in Washington State<\/a>. Currently in the middle of negotiating the terms of a contract. Negotiations have had to be extended twice now. The Firm Deadline<\/a> to wrap up is now the 23rd of this month is my understanding. Theres been very little transparency in these negotiations according to some estimates. American taxpayers are on the hook for 300 a day per detainee. So why is there so little transparency in the negotiations like this that are taking place across the country and are you doing anything to open up the process so we can see whats happening . Im not familiar exactly with that. I can certainly give you more background after this hearing with respect to that particular negotiation. But we do want to have transparency. You know, there are parties to a negotiation. Usually its up to those parties to come up with the final terms. But i will tell you, we do seek through all of the meetings with all of the stake holders and whether its Law Enforcement<\/a> or nongovernmental organizations or others, their views on how things can be improved. And i certainly am intending to i hope i can get out there but i want to get to more facilities to make sure i think weve communicated clearly to folks doing those negotiations to make sure that were doing them in the way that ensures security but also humane treatment of individuals, whether documented or not. If you have other information youre able to give me, i greatly appreciate it and if youre able to come out to Washington State<\/a> and visit, the facility, wed appreciate that too. Thank you. So that you can have that direct experience. Id actually like to do that. As a followup, there was an october 2014 gao report that i requested with a number of colleagues, identified three areas where ice is failing in managing detention costs and expenditures expenditures. Were collecting and maintaining cost data, two, ensuring cost is considerate in placing aliens in detention facilities and preventing improper payments to detention facility operators. So do you agree that there could be improvements made in this area . If so, what steps are being taken to improve . I always think we can be more efficient. I preach that since ive joined the agency, we need to look for efficiencies because as we well know, funds are not guaranteed from year to year as we have experienced firsthand at the department. We are looking at all of those things. Were looking to make sure costs are allocated properly. We have staff trained in order to look for that specifically. And we do periodic audits and im not familiar with the report youre speaking of. I would like to read it to make sure we address those areas that youve identified. If we can follow up on that too. I appreciate that. There are a number of counties in my state of washington, including king county, our largest county, that formally adopted policies to ignore certain ice detainer requests. So i know youve talked about this a bit before but i was wondering if you could explain your views regarding whether states and localities should be forced to comply with ice detainers . We are in the middle, as you know and ive indicated earlier, of a Cross Country<\/a> tour of those jurisdictions that have refused to work with us. We are trying to assure people were looking at priority enforcement, not just general undocumented immigrant enforcement. Were looking at requests, not asking anyone to detain someone as we did before, beyond the term of their local jurisdiction sentence. We are working to identify the areas we can all agree on. Murderers, sexual assaulters, those folks that pose a danger to the Community Based<\/a> on all the facts and circumstances pertaining to a case. Did not vote. I thought for sure the womens bill would pass and they did not vote for it. Host next weekend in los angeles is the annual Los Angeles Times<\/a> festival of books. Book tv will be live april 18 and 19 from the university of Southern California<\/a> campus. Nicco mele he nicco mele is the publisher of the Los Angeles Times<\/a>. Wonder they start sponsoring this . Caller guest we started this about 20 years ago. It was an important way the newspaper could engage in the community. Provide a space for all kinds of people from publishers, authors, thinkers, but also chefs and artists and actors and actresses. To come together and celebrate. Los angeles is one of the creative capitals of the world. Host what can we expect . Guest we will have over 500 authors, celebrities, musicians, artists, etc. , as well as booksellers, publishers, and cultural organizations across nine stages. There is something for everyone. Bring your kids, your grandparents. We have candice bergen, t. C. Boyle, roy choi, your favorite billy idol, Joyce Carol Oates<\/a> jason segel. Polly perretti. Octavia spencer. There is someone for everyone. Families foodies, hipsters students. More than 100 conversations on everything from california crime noir to Digital Privacy<\/a> rights to the future of american identity. Host what kind of reaction do you get . Guest it has been an immediate success. When we started, he became a cornerstone event in los angeles culture. People market it all year long. It has been a signature events. The Los Angeles Times<\/a> invites everyone to celebrate this great city. It has grown to one of the largest festivals of its kind. Theres nothing like it anywhere in the u. S. It started simply. It was about bringing together people who create books and people who love to read them. It has grown into a much daughter celebration. We have a big book award we give out every year. We are adding something new called an idea exchange. Malcolm gladwell will be in conversation with the Los Angeles Times<\/a> critic. If you listen to npr, you are probably familiar with that critic as the film critic. Host as regulars bureaus as regular viewers know, booktv will be there. We have partnered with the l. A. Times festival of books to create a book bag. We will hand those out from the cspan bus. If you familiar with the area, just off the usc the usc campus. We are about half a block from tommy the trojan. Is there a cost . Guest the bulk of the event is free. Some are ticketed due to limited space. This is a chance to invite the country in to los angeles to look at california as the gateway to both latin america and the pacific rim. To look at the future challenges the country faces and its future. From jack to Climate Change<\/a> to immigration from drought to Climate Change<\/a> to immigration. Across the board, all kinds of exciting opportunities. Host you can go to latimes. Com and follow the festival at l afob. Booktv will be live on cspan to all week and next weekend from the Los Angeles Times<\/a> festival of books. Saturday and sunday, april 18 and 19. Go to booktv. 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