Information about hunter biden. I agree with dan your last guest there is not a strong connection at this point. Between the evidence on hunter biden and any evidence you can watch all of our programs on our website c span. Org. We take you live to capitol hill where microsoft president is expected to be joined by a law professor and a scientist to testify about proposed legislation that wrigleys Artificial Intelligence. Live coverage on cspan 3. And also to chairman durbin who supports has been invaluable in encouraging us to go forward here. I have been grateful especially to my partner in this effort senator holly the Ranking Member. He and i as you know have produced a framework. Basically a blueprint for a path forward to achieve legislation. Our interest is in legislation. In this hearing along with the two previous ones has to be seen as a means to that end. We are very resolved oriented. I know you are from your testimony. And i have been enormously encouraged. And emboldened by the response so far just in the past few days and from my conversations with leaders in the industry like mr. Smith. There is a deep appetite indeed a hunger for rules and guardrails basic safeguards for businesses and consumers, for people in general. From potential perils. There is also a desire to make use of the tremendous potential benefits. And our effort is to provide for regulation in the best sense of the word. Regulation that permits and encourages innovation. And new businesses and technology and entrepreneurship. At the same time provide those guardrails enforceable safeguards that can encourage trust and confidence in this growing technology. It is not a new technology entirely. It has been around for decades. But Artificial Intelligence is regarded as entering a new era. And make no mistake, there will be regulation. The only question is how soon and what . And it should be regulation that encourages the best in American Free enterprise but at the same time provides the kind of protections that we do in other areas of our economic activity. To my colleagues no need for new rules. You have enough laws protecting the public. Yes we have laws that prohibit unfair and deceptive competition. We have laws that regulate airline safety. And drug safety. But nobody would argue that simply because we have those rules we dont need specifics protections for medical device safety. Or car safety. Just because we have rules that prohibit discrimination in the workplace does not mean we dont need rules that prohibit dissemination and voting. And we need to make sure that these protections are framed and targeted in a way that applied to the rest risks involved. Risks based rules. Managing the risks is what we need to do here. So, our principles are pretty straightforward i think. We have nope pride of authorship. We have seconded this framework to encourage comment. We wont be offended by criticism from any quarter. That is the way we can make this framework better and eventually achieve legislation we hope i hope at least by the end of this year. And the framework is basically establishing a licensing regime for companies that are engaged in high risk Ai Development. Creating an independent oversight body that has expertise with ai and works with other agencies to administer and enforce the law. Protecting our national and Economic Security to make sure we arent enabling china or russia and other adversaries to interfere in our democracy or violate human rights. Requiring transparency about the limits and use of ai models. At this point includes rules like watermarking, digital disclosure, when ai is being used and data access for researchers. And ensuring ai companies can be held liable in their products breach privacy violate civil rights and endanger the public, deep fakes impersonation, weve all heard those terms. We need to prevent those harms. Senator holly and i former attorneys general of our states, have a deep and abiding affection for the potential enforcement, powers of those officials, state officials. But the point is there must be effective enforcement. Private rights of action as well as federal enforcement are very very important. So let me just close by saying before i turned it over to my colleague. We are going to have more hearings. The way to build a coalition in support of these measures is to disseminate as widely as possible the information that is needed for our colleagues to understand what is at stake here. We need to listen to the kind of Industry Leaders and experts that we have before us today. And we need to act with dispatch. More than just deliberate speed. We need to learn from our experience with social media that if we let this get out of the barn, it will be even more difficult to contain than social media. And we are seeking to act on social media the harms that it portends right now as we speak. We are literally at the cusp of a new era. I asked sam altman when he sat where you are what his greatest fear was. I said mine my nightmare is the massive unemployment that could be created that is an issue that we dont deal with directly here. But it shows how wide the ramifications may be. And we do need to deal with potential worker displacement and training. And this new era is one that portends an enormous promise but also perils. We need to deal with both. I will turn it now to Ranking Member senator hawley. Thank you for organizing this hearing. This is now the third of these hearings that we have done. Ive learned a lot. In the previous couple. I think some of what we are learning about the potentials of ai is exhilarating. Some of it is horrifying. And i think what i hear the chairman saying and what i agree with is we have a responsibility here now to do our part to make sure that this new technology which holds a lot of promise but also peril actually works for the american people. That it is good for working people. That it is good for families. That we dont make the same mistakes that congress made with social media. 30 years ago now congress basically outsourced social media to the biggest corporations in the world. That has been i would submit to you nearly an unmitigated disaster. We had the biggest most powerful operations not just in america but in the globe and in the history of the globe. Doing whatever they want with social media. Running experiments basically every day on americas kids. Inflicting Mental Health harms the likes of which we have never seen. Messing around in our elections anyway that is deeply deeply corrosive to our way of life. We cannot make those mistakes again. So, we are here as senator blumenthal said to try to find answers. To try to make sure that this technology is something that actually benefit the people of this country. I have no doubt with all due respect to the corporate in front of us the heads of these corporations. I have no doubt it will benefit your companys. What i want to make sure is that it is the american people. That is the task we are engaged in. I look forward to this today. Vacuum is the chairman. I want to introduce our witnesses. As is custom i will swear them in and ask them to submit their testimony. Welcome to all of you. Chief scientist. He joined in january 2009 as chief scientists after spending 12 years at stanford university. He was chairman of the Computer Science department. He has published over 205th the papers. He holds 120 issued patents. He is the author of 4 textbooks. Brad smith is the vice chair and president of microsoft. As microsoft vice chair and president he is responsible for spearheading the Companies Working and representing it publicly in ava wide variety of Critical Issues involving the intersection of technology and society including Artificial Intelligence cybersecurity privacy environmental sustainability human rights digital safety immigration philanthropy and products in business. For a nonprofit customers. We appreciate your being here. Professor hartzog is professor of law and class of 1960 scholar at Boston University school of law. Hes also a nonresident fellow at the school of policy in medicine and law. At Washington University. A faculty associate at the center for internet and society at harvard university. A scholar at the center for internet and society at stanford law school. I could go on about each of you at much greater length with all of your credentials. But suffice it to say that very impressive. If you would now stand i will administer the oath. Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are about to give is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth . Why dont we begin with you mr. Dally. Chairman blumenthal Ranking Member hawley. They keep the privilege its hot testified today. Im delighted to discuss Artificial Intelligence journey in the future. Invidious at the forefront of accelerated computing genitive Ai Technologies potential to transform industries address global challenges profoundly benefit society. Since our founding in 1993 we have been committed to developing technology to empower people and approve the quality of life worldwide. Today over 40,000 Companies Use invidious platforms across media and entertainment Scientific ComputingHealthcare Financial ServicesInternet Services automotive and manufacturing to solve the worlds most difficult challenges and bring new products and services to consumers worldwide. At our finding in 1983 we were a 3d graphic startup dozens of startups competing to create an entirely new market for accelerators to enhance Computer Graphics for games. In 1999 we invented the Graphics Processing Unit or gpu which could perform calculations in parallel. We launched we recognize the gpus theoretically accelerate in the application that can benefit processing. This bed paid off. Researchers worldwide innovate on nvidia gpus. Collective efforts we have made advances in the ai that will revolutionize tremendous benefits to society across sectors such as Healthcare MedicalResearch Education business cybersecurity climate and beyond. However we also recognize like any new product or service ar products and services have risks. Those who make and use or sell ai enabled products and services are responsible for their conduct. Fortunately many uses of ai applications are subject to existing laws and regulations. The government the sectors in which they operate. Ai enable services and high risk sectors could be subject to enhance edification requirements when necessary. While other applications with less risk of harm may need less strategic stringent licensing a relation. With clear stable and thoughtful regulation Ai Developers work to benefit society while making products and services as safe as possible. For our part committed to the safe and Trustworthy Development and diplomas of ai. For example guardrails are open Source Software empowers developers to guide genitive ai applications to produce accurate appropriate and secure text responses. Nvidia implemented Model Risk Management guidance ensuring a comprehensive assessment and management of risk associated with nvidia develop models. Today nvidia announces it is endorsing the white houses voluntary commitments on ai. We can and will continue to identify and address the risks. No discussion of ai would be complete without addressing what is often described as frontier ai models. Some of express fear frontier models will evolve into uncontrollable artificial general intelligence. Which could escape our control and cause harm. Fortunately uncontrollable artificial general intelligence is Science Fiction and not reality. At its core ai is a Software Program that is limited by its training. Provided to it and the nature of its output. In other words humans will always decide how much Decision Making power to cede the ai models. As long as we are thoughtful in measured we can ensure trustworthy and ethical deployment of ai systems without suppressing innovation. We can spur innovation by ensuring ai tools are widely available to everyone not concentrated in the hands of a few powerful firms. I will close with two observations. First the i is already out of the bottle. Ai algorithms are widely published and available to all. Ar software can be transmitted anywhere in the world at the press of a button and many Ai Development tools frameworks and foundational models are open source. Second, no nation and certainly no Company Controls a chokepoint to Ai Development. Leading u. S. Computing platforms are competing with companies from around the world while u. S. Companies may currently be the most Energy Efficient cost efficient and easiest to use theyre not the only viable alternatives for developers abroad. Other nations are developing ai systems with or without u. S. Components. They will offer those applications in the worldwide market. Safe and trustworthy ai will require multilateral and multi stakeholder cooperation or it will not be effective. The United States is an remarkable position today and with your help we can continue to lead on policy and innovation while into the future. Nvidia stands ready to work with you to ensure the development and employment of genitive ai and accelerated computing serve the best interest of all. Thank you for your opportunity to testify before this committee. Thank you very much. Mr. Smith. Ranking member hawley members of the subcommittee. My name is brad smith the Vice President of microsoft thank you for the opportunity to be here today. More importantly thank you for the work that you have done to create the framework you have shared. I think you put it very well, first we need to learn and act with dispatch. Ranking member hawley i think you offered real words of wisdom. Lets learn from the experience the whole world had with social media. And lets be clear eyed about the promise and the peril in equal measure as we look to the future of ai. I would first say i think your framework does that. It doesnt attempt to answer every question. By design. But it is a very strong and positive step in the right direction. And puts the u. S. Government on the path to be a Global Leader in ensuring a balanced approach that will enable innovation to go forward with the right legal guardrails in place. As we all think about this more i think it is worth keeping three goals in mind. First lets prioritize safety and security. Which your framework does. Lets require licenses for advanced ai models and uses in high risk scenarios. Lets have an agency that is independent and can exercise real and effective oversight over this category. And then lets couple that with the right kinds of controls that will ensure safety of the sort weve already seen i think start to emerge in the white house commitments that were launched on july 21st. Second, lets prioritize as you do the protection of our citizens and consumers. Lets Prioritize National security. Always in a sense in some ways the First Priority of the federal government. But lets think as well as you have about protecting the privacy, the civil rights and the needs of kids. Among many other ways of working and ensure we get this right. Lets take the approach that you are recommending namely focus not only on those companies that develop ai, like microsoft, as well as companies that deploy ai like microsoft. In different categories we are going to need Different Levels of obligations. And as we go forward lets think about the connection between say the role of a Central Agency that will be on point for certain things as well as the obligations that frankly will be part of the work of many agencies. And indeed our courts as well. And lets do one other thing as well. Maybe it is one of the most important things we need to do so we ensure that the threats that many people worry about remain part of Science Fiction and dont become a new reality. Lets keep ai under the control of people. It needs to be safe. And to do that as we have encouraged there needs to be safety brakes especially for any ai application or system that can control Critical Infrastructure. If a Company Wants to use ai to say control the electrical grid or all of the self driving cars on our roads or the water supply, we need to learn from so many other technologies that do great things but also can go along. We need a safety break just like we have a Circuit Breaker in every building and home in this country to stop the flow of electricity if that is needed. Then i would say lets keep one third goal in mind as well. This is the one where i was just you maybe consider doing a bit more to add to the framework. Lets remember the promise that this offers. Right now if you go to state capitals you go to other countries, i think there is a lot of energy being put on that. When i see what Governor Newsom is doing in california or governor bertram in north dakota. I see them at the forefront of figuring out how to use ai to say improve the