This week on cue and at politico editor Susan Glasser and New York Times chief White House Correspondent peter baker who are married talk about their careers and plans to move to israel. Cspan Susan Glasser editor of politico why did you get into this . Guest what an exciting way to earn a living while learning something new every single day day. Always wanted to be a journalist. Right nowhere did you start . Where was your first journalistic experience . Guest you know i remember being 10 years old and handing out copies of a newspaper that my parents founded the legal times at the ada convention here in washington one summer and probably ever since then. Cspan how long did they own legal times . Guest they started it in 1977 and their Company Owned it until they were subsidiary of harper grace and all Publishing Firm sold in 1986. Cspan who is the first person that taught you what journalism is supposed to be all about . Guest you know whats funny there was a famous teacher at the high school i went to, tom lions who was the supervisor of the newspaper at andover. He was also george w. Bushs favorite teacher in high school many many years later. He was an elder statesman of the school and not only was he a great journalist but more important in the role of a free press and he taught constitutional law seminar my junior year in high school. I was an incredible experience. Cspan your husband is with us today, peter baker. Before that of peter baker what were the circumstances where you met him . Guest unit how people used to say i got my job to the Washington Post . I was lucky enough to get a job at the Washington Post and to meet my husband. We also like to say that Monica Lewinsky was the thing that brought us together so there was some good at least that came out of that debacle. I was an editor at the Washington Post and having to oversee investigative reporting for the national post. I started in january of 1998 doma when we do for the monica story broke. Peter was a White House Reporter covering president clinton and so thats how we met. Cspan we have video from 1998, actually right after you started february the sixth and this is your husband peter baker when he worked at the post. The lead story here is clinton discussed jones testimony was secretary peter baker. Can you tell us more about the story . Of course whats interesting about it is the president gets home from his deposition on january 17 having. Six hours with lawyers and apologize who had gone through all this reporting sexual encounters with women over the years asking questions one at a time but the one that apparently stuck in his mind was Monica Lewinsky but guess he gets home at night calls up his personal secretary nasser to come into his office the next day so they can talk about it in that sunday in the privacy of the white house they went through the testimony and he tried to see if his memory matched her memory. The prosecutor was interested in math because her version was somewhat different in that he said he was in earshot in other words that he and lewinsky were never essentially amounted secretary betty currie essentially told them yes but told investigators that she had been in the outer office on a number of occasions. Cspan you are with the New York Times now but when you are watching this what were you thinking . Guest my taste in ties hasnt gotten any better all these years later. Its a long time ago. This is a lifetime ago for washington, not just for us and think of the circumstances we were operating in those days are the issues that we were dealing with were so extraordinary and hard to imagine. Never repeated since thank goodness that we were Young Journalist trying to figure out what the story was and what it added up to. Was it about sex, was about power, was about politics . Accountability . It was a stew of all of these things always really and extraordinaire time. Bright company what do you think is residual at that time period on her policies right now . Guest i think it was part of a continuum in washington that became increasingly corrosive over time and they had a hard time figuring out what are the right boundaries and what are the ways you can hold the president accountable, when does it become partisan and i think if you trace it back to all sorts of events in the previous 10 to 20 years and extended through the days we see a think of evolution of the way politics has grown harsher and harsher in washington. Cspan you too at the Washington Post were able to find your spouse. What is your perspective on how it all happened . Guest she was my boss at the time and look we were studying late at night. The story was allconsuming and one thing we discovered completely by accident nextdoor friend al cayman at the time was that we lived on the same block and the same street. We had never seen each other on the block because because we had. All her time at the office and i think that was one more of the variety of things that was Something Real here and you know Monica Lewinsky brought us together. Cspan where did you grow up . Guest here in washington and fairfax virginia. I went to Public Schools all the way through and my High School Journalism teacher was a man named stuart hill who encouraged me to be a journalist. Cspan what was it like . Guest technically that was not really the controlling legal authority. As you know there are many bosses in the big newsroom. I had been really lucky and i think whats so unusual and that if i can be sassy for a second to be able to have professional and personal partnerships for over 15 years is a usually really unusual thing and i will tell you though he was terrible on deadlines then and he is terrible now. What is the last possible moment you can turn in the story and then add time on the clock to that and thats when peter will turn it in. Cspan how are you on timelines . Guest well look less just say there a lot of procrastinators to gravitate towards journalism naturally because only the force of the gun to the head will get things done. But unlike those rigid newspaper deadlines that we started out in what happened in those years since we first started working together is the absolute proliferation explosion of we are about to all the wire service 24hour deadline people. Peter during the impeachment saga its a littleknown fact was basically one of the very first people to write a web story for the Washington Post. We wanted to have a midday update but thats arc of time, 15 years ago from just a print paper and waking up in the morning to a fresh set of news and headlines you really didnt know about to this rolling world in which the New York Times, the Washington Post and politico were filing all the time and we sophisticated not just commodity news versions of the congregated breaking stories almost instantaneously within minutes of them occurring and here we were in our living memory covering the scandal in which he was the very first guy to write a web story at web news story for the Washington Post. Cspan one of the things that triggered her and justin having the tube you talk to us was the fact that you are going to jerusalem together. When you go . Guest its a twostage departure. Our son will go with me in august in time for school to start and then susan wolf finish out the election and politico. Theres no way can break yourself away so she will join us a couple of months after that. Cspan would assure thinking thinking about being of pure chief of the New York Times . Guest is its going to be great adventure. Susan and i were Bureau Chiefs together and get the Washington Post so we have done the overseas thing before but we have never. Time in jerusalem and i think we are looking forward to learning a lot and its going to be a real adventure. Its part of the world that has so much history to it and a vital part of two days issues and we spend a lot of time with writing about it but we will be there on the ground. Cspan obviously will step down at the editor of political. What is next in jerusalem . Guest i will also basically be changing walls and continuing in a roll around having to lead our editorial. We are continuing to expand in the and internationally. We Just Launched cisco europe and we are looking forward to starting political magazine. Two and a half years ago we started that. Its been a really extending a new platform to take us into longform reporting and the war of ideas. You cant own the washington conversation lets you are part of the debate over ideas and policies and how it connects up with the world of politics. I think that approach is something that can work in europe and other big markets in the world. Both of us in many ways have. Our careers focusing on the intersection between washington and the world and i think one of the things that we have learned from our two are in russia which coincided with president putins first term in office, this was after 9 11. We ended up in afghanistan and iraq and came back here to the washington george w. Bushs second term in office and you know that supply of Ground Troops, that sense of washington isnt just a Capital Capital of the United States, it is in many ways the capital of the world. Its a nexus through which things flow and get we are often very insular here. Its kind of the small village at times and we really have to renew your intellectual capital, your Ground Troops in order to really understand these issues. Im going to be writing a weekly report column on Foreign Affairs which will appear in politico. Also ill be working on longer form magazine pieces probably for the New York Times as well as politico. Cspan as you know theyre all kinds of folks United States that hate and i dont need to say it any stronger than that, they dont like the media and the press. What do you say to them when you find somebody thats hostile to the New York Times . What New York Times . What do you do . Guest you know what i find it interesting is over the years to give indications from readers who are unhappy about this or that and i found, try to respond to all of them that i can and i get the most, most of them over the top in terms of hatred. For the most part people are angry, even if theyre hostile if you write them back in you say understand why youre saying then heres my thinking of why he wrote the article this way are your point was a good one or a point you may have missed, here it is if you get a thought that theres a legitimacy to peoples points and then there we are open to criticism they almost always, not almost eyes but twothirds of the time the response i get is sorry i should have been so mean and i take your point. They look at us as an institution when they see us as individuals who can have a conversation with them its a healthier thing. Cspan i want to go back to 1992. This was you when you are at roll call. What is roll call and what did you do there . Guest roll call was the original newspaper at capitol hill before there was politico and before there was the hill. There was roll call founded in the 1950s by a former hill staffer at in the mid1980s, 1986 it was purchased by Arthur Leavitt at the time he had this really great insight along with jim glassman who you remember that really rather than just being a Real Community thing you could be serving one of the most important audiences in the world and members of congress and the universal capitol hill with original news that goes deep on those subjects, on the process and the topics that really mattered and it was also a really Smart Business proposition at the time. The Washington Post had a monopoly market but of course people were paying huge premiums to reach all the readers of the Washington Post, suburbs and all over. How about undercut them and just reached the specific targeted influential audience and of course that Business Insight is given rise to this whole industry proliferated industry targeted ideas and issues of advocacy advertising so i was unwittingly put into that. I became an intern at roll call in the summer after it was bought in the summer of 1987, the first year and i was in college and if i was 18 years old. I was at harvard and my dad wrote an article in the Washington Post about this very interesting media experience. I didnt know these folks at all, just basically sent them a letter i think. You did that in the olden days and ended up with is this really incredible experience. I came back to work there after i graduated and in 1992 i guess si i was the managing editor of roll call and that this incredible window both into washington as it was transforming since the beginning of the first cold war elections, the election of bill clinton and really the beginning of the transformation of the media. I think what we did at roll call back then was very much a kind of preinternet era, internet era kind of publication. Cspan today everything above that he did knbc in on on the web in on the web in your estate journey were in the world as far as that goes the less watch this clip of you in a roll call editorial meeting. Jim glassman is at the table. Everyone has done their generic story on line, okay women candidates are doing really well but i mean i think that what we should do is a story more specifically with women. Where did they come from, exactly. And the flipside flip side to that is their salsa redistricting and how many new blacks and hispanics are going to be in the Democratic Caucus as a result . There are people we know that are coming as freshmen in the 103rd congress are ready are almost exclusively minority. The reason for that is because these new majority minority districts created by the Voting Rights act are almost exclusively created as democratic districts in the country. These are districts that are inconceivably and this business 20 years before 1992. So how did this change . What has the change been like for you . Guest is very interesting. Roll call was a great place to go after college for any journalist male or female. It was a great window and covered National Politics in a very young age, not going that older route of a far suburb and slightly closer in suburban newspaper bureau and maybe someday getting downtown. I feel like we were very privileged to be able to jump right in under jim glassmans guidance and to start covering National Topics and learned awful lot but it was kind of insulated from society at large. Its a start up basically. We didnt use those terms but it was a startup atmosphere. I dont think we were very conscious of gender breakdowns. In 1992 there was the need to hill Clarence Thomas hearings and a relevant tory sense that the Broader Society hasnt really come to terms but looking back at my very young just out of college, 19922 self and where women are in journalism today i think i would have been disappointed and surprised at how much we are still having many of the same conversations. Thats not to say there hasnt been a certain amount of progress in many first women barriers have been broken weather was the first woman editor of the New York TimesJill Abramson and obviously we talked about the year of the woman is what we talked about in congress. There were many more women in Congress Today but its only 20 its only 20 of course women ceos and the Biggest Companies still in single digits. I think i would have been surprised and we had a sense of a much more uniform march of progress and maybe thats what you always have and its interesting to see the debate this year over Hillary Clintons candidacy and what seems to be a generational divide between older women who have a sense of the barriers still existing for women whether its politics or journalism and a new group of voters, the millennial voters this year who seemed to be bridling at the idea of a woman just because of her gender. But i would say how persistent the differential treatment outcomes are for women in our profession of journalism. It is surprising. Its a small number. I will say any editor of foreignpolicy magazine before a move to politico, there are even fewer women in foreignpolicy circles and International Affairs circles than there are in political circles. Cspan how do you view at . Guest well, susan has been very blessed by having a lot of opportunities and she has made the most of them. I think watching her up close has been inspirational and the editor of roll call. She is right, there are not enough women who have made it to that level in journalism. I have worked probably most of my years with women over the years but at the top levels there is a different expectation conscious or unconscious of what is al