>> we are a nation of laws and i believe in the rule of law and i think in a post-9/11 world is very important that we know who is in this country and why they are here. my perspective is that the right immigration policies not only will be good for airport good for airport security but it will also be right for our economy. it's going to promote our economy. we talked about the possibility of deporting 11 million undocumented when i was working in the white house and we believed it was not possible. we couldn't do it but even if we could do it we believed it would have been devastating to certain industries. we believe the better approach and the approach that i talked about in this book with my co-author david strange is to find those people that are qualified and put them into some kind of legal status so that they can stay here work in america, produced in america and i think by working here and being productive is going to enhance our economy and actually it will create our economy and create additional jobs for american citizens. so i think this is something that is very important are our economy and very important for security. putting it into some kind of temporary legal status i think is the way to go and from there have no problem with someone walking to a government office and saying i need a driver's license. once they are here under legal status i think they should be entitled to most of the privileges that all of us enjoys american citizens and we can talk documents about this that mean at some point they become american citizens, an issue which has become very politicized in my judgment but one that i think can be dealt with in a respectful way and one that i think would be agreeable to most americans. >> jonathan schneer history professor at georgia tech recounts winston churchill's war cabinet composed of men across the political spectrum who insisted the prime minister and managing british war effort. this is next on booktv. >> or guest tonight is jonathan schneer. he is here speak about his latest book "ministers at war" winston