Transcripts For CSPAN2 It Takes A Village Roundtable 2016072

Transcripts For CSPAN2 It Takes A Village Roundtable 20160724

Their besides the studying that i have to do. There has been no experience more challenging, more rewarding and more humbly than raising our daughter. And we have learned that to raise a happy, healthy and hopeful child, it takes a family. It takes teachers. It takes clergy. It takes Business People. It takes community leaders. It takes those that protect our health and safety. It takes all of us. [cheers and applause] yes, it takes a village. Host carlos lozada, when Hillary Clinton uses the term it takes a village, what do you think she means . Guest she starts with the family. She quickly moves beyond the family. She talks about a network of people of institutions and values. So teachers, neighbors, businesses, employers, even of course politicians as you see here in the clip. Teresa village Komeito Justina family, each other, community. You need a president. You need bill clinton. Host amie parnes, what do you hear . Guest i am hearing a very strong message of what she is trying to put out today, which is stronger together. This is her Newest Campaign message. Shes had quite a few of them. This is something where she is trying to start every chat and send sent her populist method and they were all in this together kind of thing. It is interesting to hear what she had to say back then and compare it to where she is today. Host hasnt been consistent . Guest it is that inconsistencies along the way. When you read this book, that is consistent on one model, but a little bit archaic in the 90s in another sense. Host what does hillary quit me much because it takes a village . Im not as crazy as you think i am. People look at her as the one who theyre not sure and made very clear. Im a centrist on a democrat time to update the democratic dirty and they dont quite know where hillary fits in. This is after the failure of the Health Care Reform to be the copresident and shes coming in saying i am one of you. Part of that stream and yes i have liberal ideals, but outside of conservative cultural sensitivity. Chivas tobaccos in switzerland and gives a speech about three pillars. She capsoff capitalism and free market. Talks about government and family and home. For 60s liberals who talk about family and capitalism was revolutionary. Just two or three weeks after the book was published was when bill clinton gave his famous era of Big Government is over speech. It was a big moment right then to declare that she did in this book i am a moderate. We all have some conservative values, some liberal values and we are mostly moderate. That was the message in it takes a village were surprisingly see a real streak of social conservatism in the story. Host she did after she did have to reintroduce herself. She is sort of within the thick of this health care fight. People have strong opinions of her. This is her tale about who she is in who she wanted to portray to the American People. Host i want to say she was traumatized. Shed been so rejected over the Health Care Debacle and she wants to show that she could really be a first lady. What is amazing is you see a cliche in the process of being born. It is her gift to the American People and attempt to say im important but also we can have a conversation together. Host the clip you showed is the 96 Convention Speech which was nine months after the book was published. She came back to it takes a village when she launched her late president ial campaign. She came back to it when she launched the 2016 campaign. A few weeks ago after clinching and people sort of finish the sentence for her now. Host it takes a village, glass ceiling, shes created all these cliches. Bill clinton has that warmth, that touch, but he doesnt have the same. Host lets look at her june 13, 2015 president ial election. Fundamentally, they reject what it takes to build an inclusive economy. It takes an inclusive society. [cheers and applause] what i once called a village that has a place for everyone. Now, my values and a lifetime of experiences have given me a different vision for america. I believe that success isnt measured by how much the wealthiest americans have, but by how many children to climb out of poverty. Host carlos lozada, in a recent review of it takes a village, you wrote that it takes a village often becomes code for it takes guest she talks about the successes of nonprofit groups, initiatives, but she very much comes back to so you need the family medical leave act, the crime bill. You know, the vaccination initiatives the government has undertaken. She is trying to thread the needle because she is not going to give up or cease to praise the successes that she sees them that the Clinton Administration has had or was pushing at the time. But at the same time, she tries to localize them when possible. Throughout the book, you see a lot of praise for what people would conventionally call the government, big washington initiatives, including some that come back to bite her in this campaign. Host she is sort of inviting academia, the turin. This is something the clintons do all the time. We see it in everything they have done throughout history. For something they do at the foundation. They believe in bringing everyone together. They think that everyone can come together and for new solutions. This is sort of a very interesting idea she is putting forward any continuation of what they believe in. Host is almost a radical rewrite. She same families are good, divorce is bad. Promiscuity is a problem here. For a long time, 60s, 70s, 80s, dallas conservative talk. I is a liberal can take back that language and talk about family values. One of the things you also see in this clip is the difficulty of being hillary. Shes trying to assert herself and define identity. In many ways, it is a problem because people are saying who are you. On the one hand shes most famous woman in the world. On the other hand, she is constantly adjusting, constantly changing and people dont trust back. Its a very strange thing because when bill clinton reinvents himself come to think do that all the time. Theres some sexism in there, too. And becomes the likability question ive written about countless times. Why is such a likable . She kind of fed on not where she said people dont trust her. She acknowledged this be achieved and to gain the trust back. I think it is probably one of the biggest questions that looms over her candidacy. Why cant she quite get there . Why is that she likable enough and that is something she constantly have to work towards. The likability and trustworthiness. If he did a soul scan of bill clinton and Hillary Clinton, you would find a pure soul and Hillary Clinton. She has a harder time line. I think that makes it very difficult to be a politician and as a result she is with bill clinton where hes at the moment they cannot i. Contact. Contact. Hes living it so completely that he can live in a lie. Her honesty makes her seem. Shes always quoting john wesley. This is a woman who strongly believes in the wesleyan principles that she is a Public Servant and she is a mess do good and bad as some and then i think when donald trump and questions her and you dont have to look very far to be aware of the origins are. Also in our subsequent memoirs, she talks a lot about the influence that her church had on her particularly when she was young. But there is this defensiveness in the book and this attempt every definition. In the 92 campaign there was the famous incident where she was the first lady who had a graduate degree if im not mistaken in the yell my degree. I couldve stayed home and bake cookies and had tea parties but i chose to exercise my professional capability long before my husband was in public life. And it takes a village, she started to apologize for it. Not entirely, as she calls it a teacup in the tempest or Something Like that. She says that made my share of cookies and ive had plenty and have served hundreds of cups of tea, but i shouldnt be judged by my cookie making ortiz serving abilities. She says what she didnt realize at the time, when she made those statements as people would interpret them as judgments on the road life choices. Throughout that, you see the effort which sometimes comes across with the fear of the hippocratic oath is first do no harm. She had done so much harm in health care she comes in and you could even see some of the signature stories i sanitized and that the peer she loves to tell the story about being a kid in the neighborhood and there is bullies and she came running in and mama clinton said get out. I am not letting you back in until you do with this. She says the taliban about. In it takes a village, she wants to be saint hilary. She wants to be calmer, more cautious. Theres a certain tragedy in that book, who she really is is that they are. Youll in her memoirs. Her second bomb more was deadly memoir was deadly. Host amie parnes, if somebody picked up in 1996 it takes a village, with a recognized and no Hillary Clinton . Guest a lot of it is very much a touch of who she is and the pillars are there. Parts of it are a little bit murkier. You know, a lot of that has changed in some of what she is saying applies to the 1990s in a very big way. There are things, a big pillar of this obviously she mentions family. You see that oakland says. Talk about divorce and how she had to bite her lip a little bit, you know, to keep their marriage together. That might strike people reading it today as if you are in an uncomfortable situation, why not do that. There are all these other things that seem 20 years ago. Maybe she might have a different take now on that sort of societal kind of pressure. Host she judges people who get divorced in this very direct way. She says sometimes till death do us part means until the going gets rough. And so, she pulls up the relationship that she and bill have. This is a horse before the big scandals of the late 90s as saying we found ways to sometimes bite your lip, but to Work Together in an atmosphere of respect and the fact that we had chelsea deep in my commitment. Host which is an intense cultural critique of what americans become. Theres a strong sense of nostalgia worried father knows best. Looking at america and in 1993 she had given a series of speeches to talk about the policies of meeting which are not at the same hillary and try to make it a little bit comment ,com,com ma a little bit more domesticated. There is a sense of something deep going on. She even quotes the words and talks about the backlash against hollywood in the backlash against the music videos and the records of the Recording Industry and shes fighting crime and i think we have to be sensitive to that in sympathetic to her. You have to look at whats going on in the night to 90s. In the 1990s ,com,com ma bill clinton says americans feel like they are living in a fun house and they are unnerved by it. Theres a sense of insecurity. Welfare is a problem not just for whites, for two thirds of africanamerican support the welfare reform and the crime bill. Or something wrong in this country. Weve got to fix it. The Reagan Administration didnt do enough. Forgot to take democratic ideas, values and synthesize them and fix this world. Host it is not surprising Hillary Clinton wrote that there is a journey for the good old days as a refuge from problems of the present. Both turning away, we blind ourselves to the continuing, evolving presence of the village in our lives and its critical importance for how we live together. She talks about nostalgia merchants to my very dismissive saying we are not going to go back to this world. First of all, it wasnt all bad. And second of all, the world has changed. At the same time, she criticizes the kids today. Whatever the kids were in the 1990s, for not recognizing the sacrifices and the advanced mens of their elders, i. E. Hillary clinton ,com,com ma her generation that entered the work force ,com,com ma the transfer of role of women in she feels a little hurt it seems than the book that people dont remember that. They take these dances for granted. So she deems the nostalgia merchants, but at the same time, she wishes there was more nostalgia for what she calmed dishes. I was particularly struck by she talks about the idea of the Nuclear Family and many paths that for a minute and look at her announcement video and it is this progressive look of a single mom who has to do her best and if you would have talked to Hillary Clinton about what she wrote back then about the Nuclear Family, i speak as a single mom, too. Weve moved a lot. They are Single Parents and that doesnt mean your kid is going to be any less successful. I would like to know, but came back, if she has any ideas and issues involved in the way politicians view back then. Host in reality she writes her past is not so pictureperfect African American children who grow up in a segregated society are immigrants who struggled to survive or women whose life choices were circumscribed and whose work was underpaid. Ask those who grew up in the pictureperfect house is about the secrets and desperation. Guest this is the tension. She is trying to say we missed that appeared, but we also have to acknowledge the period. One of the things thats next to Hillary Clinton in the 1970s with the big heavy glasses. Shes a brunette, not a blonde. She has that gone from being hillary brought him Hillary Rodham clinton. Shes trying to say i am not that it be. Im that radical. At the same time, we did some good stuff. Its a very complicated message that i respect because all too often in politics these days, it is right, left. And this book shes trying to have a little more synthesis. One of the challenges right now in 2000 she saw she could reach out to white males could she was running against a black male. Theres racism in america today. Right now, she is trying to say when she went super tuesday, she gives a speech and talks about reaching out to single women, hispanics. How she also reaching out to the donald trump voters . That will be a challenge for her in the general election. If the election is in play, Scott Schuman does white male voters and thats always been her weak spot. It was problematic when she was first lady and only through the clinton trauma or she able to reach out to them by going through more Traditional Space and in 2000 issue is able to out to them because what happens now. How do she articulate that . Or some secrets of the book that might help her find that cultural conservatism at trump his plane too. Host what is one of the secrets . Guest one of the secrets of families count. There were some good times back then. The whole question donald trump gets up and says im going to make america everyone goes great again. Hillary clinton says their silence. Now she is trying to play with we are still great. That doesnt work. What she wants to do is find them of the power from the past, show that she also appreciates that, but also with a synthesis of the goodness of the president because donald trump is all about rejecting today. The challenge for a politician says this is going to resonate a little from the past and the present to create a future. Host if you were donald trump, would you read it takes a village . Guest i would. I dont think you will. It gives you a sense of where she was and how far she has come and maybe some inconsistencies in between. But i think it gives you a pretty good portrayal of who she was back then and the pillars of who she is. Host the part of the deal is Donald Trumps foundational documents. It takes a village is absolutely Hillary Clintons. Except, unlike art of the deal, and it takes a village county detention, you see grappling. You see her groping for the synthesis of herself. Shrub is trump. In this book, hillary is wrestling. In this campaign, she had this famous moment when shes asked, are you a progressive . The answer is yes, im a progressive, the progressive slate to get things done. That suggests a mix of ideology and pragmatism. That is what you see in this book. She talks about the message, the 1850s, 60s and 70s. She wasnt going he learned from it, but she said im not going to go down your path. I want to get things done. The real tragedy if he would just read it. I think your question was really the more important one of how can anyone pull lessons from this, which can help us go forward. The major challenge in america right now as we are really good at knocking each other down. We are really good at denigrating, but whether we want . What are we searching for . Make America Great is not enough. We need to know who we are and what we stand for. One of the biggest lessons you can polish a talks about what it means. When we were writing our book, you know, i originally wanted to call at phoenix because she has had these rises and falls and dips and falls. Here she is again. How does she make her comeback . This sort of gives you a window into her thinking. Her father always said, how are you going to dig yourself out of this one, hillary . She uses that point blank. This speaks to who she is. She wants to start is make her way back up and she wants to pressure herself as this real tough fighter. So in that sense, i feel like this is a very rare insight into who she is. Host she goes on to say that she gets into using a shovel to dig herself out and sometimes has to use a backhoe. Guest we learned when we were writing her books, she is not one who will pull herself up in her bathroom and cried. She is a woman who says okay, that is over. But do not. How will we move onto the next thing . She doesnt wallow. She is very much looking to the future. When people around her wallow, she tries to pick them out. Host amie parnes and gil troy, you are both working on your second. What is the process like . Guest thats a very complicated question. I think that it is hard to actually find Hillary Clinton at times.

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