Transcripts For CSPAN2 Interview With Representative Tom Cole 20160823

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doing fine. but what they are learning every day. in those letters are absolutely phenomenal. as the harvard medical school. >>host: the last question or comment who was the last president to write his own speeches? order your thoughts on the gaggle of writers and handlers for modern presidents? >> my guess is theodore roosevelt. with the power the president to communicate it is somewhat diminished by that that is not to say they have written some of the most powerful parts of the speeches they have made kennedy was a very good writer in the speech from the car and not from the script some presidents have had wonderful writers for their scrips and ronald reagan had peggy noonan and george h. w. bush when he became president and they were writing speeches. words are much more important than many people realize. >> using words is a huge part of leadership. to all have that power of communication and with the door in thing full - - franklin roosevelt. could we still'' the maltese following generations imagine martin luther king. that is why it is so important that we all learn to use the english language. one of the marvelous aspects of the of quality of the letters that they wrote they could be touching in their incapable as the collection of library of congress approves, they were incapable to write a short letter or a boring one. if you want to get inside their lives as human beings then they plan on paper. even if they had not succeeded so much is there to learn from their attitude of life and another purpose in life to remain modest but you were brought up to be modest you did not brag. you had good manners she did not tell lies the wright brothers never went to college no wealth but we are gentleman if ever there was they are. but when they got to europe and became famous and associated with some of the wealthiest people in the of world they never felt inferior because they would be named as gentleman so why should they be in any way? certainly they were as well read as anybody. >>host: anytime you are in washington and come to booktv you can take calls. >> be careful buff -- [laughter] >> woodrow wilson signed the bill creating the daschle part vorster we look back on the past century with the historic treasures. leachate kid to a national park service sites by c-span. end of arlington and national cemetery. does he talk with the former park service director and the former arlington house manager will oversee the upcoming restoration of the grounds and the engine. the 100th anniversary of the national park service live from arlington house for the very kid history tv c-span 3. >> congressmen and live deal of those recommendations? >> ice-t be an academic books and i was a pretty smart communications director because we get these questions because i used books and i am making a point at town hall so we turned into a regular feature the we were surprised about how many it and -- much attention gets. >> we struggled to find the right way sometimes it is a struggle of a particular topic but it is usually the easiest way can we keep one eye per month and sometimes i will have to work three books that i everything and take the picture. >>host: g weber post reviews? >> not too much of that. i don't have the time. five put the book up there that means i think it was pretty good. right now i am taking a break this is a classic case you see the movie so you read the book of the abortion. -- the martian. but i got intrigued by the new netflix the man in the high council these to read science fiction as the kid but i did not read that one sold that is like what i should finished up a biography. >> you read mostly nonfiction?. >>guest: yes. that is what i enjoy. and if i read fiction and it is quite often. not like i am going back to being 12 but i read quite a bit of historical fiction without wonderful series on julius caesar. with that heavy history of heavy biography. >> with ph.d.. >> that this university i taught in gynecology clinton program and then teaching day class with the former democratic commission and national parties a and campaigns. hi todd a campaign course years ago. >>host: historians when they come with a book or the entire series they have read? >> anything that stephen ambrose as written there is a lot in his riding. very good obviously john mccullough is an excellent historian. but probably in an earlier . to be heavily focused on british history but churchill was always worth reading and we had a wonderful little book called great contemporaries written back in the '20s that there was a follow-on. i like to read about richard nixon as a fascinating politician and i thought what he wrote was quite good. >> does your reading help you as your work as a congressman? >> it does. history provides a lot the phonologies. when those people get to congress believe that history bijou -- begins with them they were really stepping into the flow of the institution. and with that contemporary history that not only parallels but the background to what is going on there was a wonderful book that it is a substantive writer there is the great book got 1927 about a rising tide or something. but he was hooked up with speaker wright when he was in his last year basically. and entered into the rise and fall in there is a lot of characters newt gingrich gingrich, and with that sense that they were close that you read about. so those kinds of things are extraordinarily helpful especially with the more senior members and then the venture of appropriations since 1988 when he starts to tell you stories that what they were here since the '50s that is fabulous. >>host: other other books you would recommend. >> but one of the more interesting books is a biography but lynne cheney's recent biography is a good book because in many ways shaped the system in terms of the constitution with the very first term so he is always worth reading about. and like these things. dixon and the johnson series by carol was spectacular because nobody knew this institution, of the senate of the updraft of american politics. but really, they knew this but the biography of a general ford is a creature of that house. >>host: id your right. >>guest: but time and chance it is a wonderful book to be lost in the politics. and that minority leader as well. that is an awful lot of history. >> years ago the auditor unpeople remember the creator of the modern political campaign that arrived 1956 and lost the republican primary 1992. but to understand the institution the campaign all across the country was consequential legislator to deliver the nomination speech for reagan at the 80 convention. pretty cool guy a and is known to tell stories and his observations i used to call him moses because you would get us to the edge of the promised land had he not loss the 92 primary would have been elected and opted to be here at the creation of the modern republican majority and did more than any sane goal by. but you picked up listening to members. >>host: when you read the older biographies do you ever say to yourself the house does the work that way anymore? >> yes. the house changes with the times although there are a lot of relevance. there is a violent that can pretty much function the way it is supposed to. and rogers and the very best sense of the word the institutionalized and the creature of the house has done a lot to restore the in the hopes that it can spread more broadly across congress but no question we are very divided and ideological and the ability to arrive we have a lot of good friends on the other side but not as many issues we can work on together. >> have you ever read books john andrew jackson? >> and it was forcibly removed and i would tell people what i was five years old i knew he was a bad man who did evil things so i have read i remember the history of the house had written a book on congress but roy blunt you should talk to him some time to invites me up as the chief whip to have lunch and presents me with a concierge copy of jackson's indian wars in a dash copy of the henry clay biography the cuts that was the great great-grandfather the door who ran on the ticket for about and held the floor against said indian removal so they were enemies by dissent it was a waterfall led to remember he handed me the book to say you probably won't agree with my thesis is in the book think about that and come back that in some ways the removal of the tribes of the southeast that saved them because it pushed them further out from being totally overrun that is a unique explanation for violating treaty rights and ethnic cleansing and the selfie is part of the country. -- south east part of the country but in the scene timeframe there is a great chickasaw festival in the great grandfather was then head of the nation and there were thousands that would come to this day and that might not have been the case we may not have survived the same way that you don't have anything anywhere near that size on the east coast where you have your opinion in an american conflict. >> what about books on native american history? >> charles millions book is where you ought to start but it is 4091 of the indigenous population north and south america on the eve of european arrival and hal devastating that contact was as the man makes the case the disease alone was much greater and the northern south america always had contacted the sense which whites while before they saw them because disease travel the head and could decimate a lot of the populations. i love the buyer of the suburban bed is a great biography. that is said award winner and is one of the best biographies gibson wrote a history of my own tribe but there is a lot the biography of my great aunt almost 100 at the roosevelt white house march 33 to retain the keying and queen of england to go all over the world but there is a lot of great books and a lot of the great historians of native america a lot of people are familiar with the biography of geronimo but one that is called the of waters flow about what happened when the oklahoma wusses open up in my family owns the last of those said it is pretty devastating experience for the tribe that is already removed and had broken their play and with individual ownership which in many cases was systematically looted. it is not as if every bad thing that happened to have pinned 200 years ago this is early 20th century in oklahoma. it is a difficult history and a difficult for americans to get their hands around because honestly it does not reflect very well on the very can government of the non native population it is a hard history. >>host: congressmen to reverberate and authors to speak to the republican conference. >> i recommend books all the time every christmas and have led to bitter for by republican appropriators and classmates because they're always a dishy group as they retire i just lost three of my good friends this year but there is almost always a book so i think the most popular was unbroken. everybody loves that book the author of sea biscuit. one year we gave them the bulk of that price of politics and particularly gave that 2012 with the budget crisis and budget act and city to read this because the characters are still the same and they're all here. >> was that book accurate? >> yes. the parts of it than i do was very accurate he was a great reporter but he was, a deaf to reassign and the person put tape on the dinner took him my copy to be sullied. e open did up and when i read i write there is underlying the he starts to go through this and he said this is made what i think it means? [laughter] she told the story and read the comments for almost one hour. it may have been aimed at the characters i know what to be critical i have a of a wonderful relationship with john baker but it is up and down and up again. but i have a decent relationship on a personal basis and have had the opportunity to interact with him with the of more tornadoes we could not have asked for a more compassionate response. looked around the office i am probably appeal the republican that has figures subroc obama so most indian in legislation is bipartisan . we worked well with the white house with the settlement with the largest class action settlement for mismanagement of indian trust land a very important tribal provision tribal law and order in the reservations are under resource to also with tricky jurisdictional questions but having said that i like both of these guys. some of the president's observations were based on this understanding of food he was and you can see in the book there is a part where he is a country club republicans now i grant you he looks like that and plays a lot of golf but is anything but he grew up with a family of 12 field the one who's got to college. he to a colander to get through college because he was doing business but is much different and his rise is every bit as remarkable considering where he started in life as is the president. so i think sometimes it would help of the book had been written before if there was the different ending to this story but abt day reasonably could relationship but back to the main point the gift books every year to the sizzle is interesting to see don't have a lot of time to read but empire of the summer mood they love that for some reason i cannot remember the author's name is a fabulous book about two american pilots the first african-american carrier pilot and the we need to the annapolis ivy educated with a very affluent family in connecticut and the shot increate the joint missions to cover the retreat but how close they were. and all the pilots are trying to cover the sky as he crash landed his plane and he cannot get out eventually he dies. his leaving is jesse brown but he crash lands the played to get his friend out it is from the letter that the pile their rights to his wife the night before he is killed and it is all be produced and it is wonderfully clear. >> that is pretty priceless. >> i should have been in paris and i have forgotten that there are so many great things about the country like jim crow then there are two guys around them on the aircraft carrier they'll become friends and it is a very patriotic story. >>host: deal read one book of week? >> obviously it depends how long the books are but on average one per week. vb two or three per month. >>host: on the airplane? >> absolutely. i do two things on the airplane. if i am fortunate he nafta be upgraded as a key pager call that is the good stretch of time to do catch up but i usually reading. >> is the "journal" a future book? >> i don't know. a wonderful historian for the people that listen with these lectures have a different series there are lives the famous greek san romans and he wrote a great lecture series and was the specialist with that seen dramatic flair of the yearly 20th century but i used to sit down with to know what he thought and seek advice and not long after i got to congress or even before, we went to have lunch i said i want some advice what do you think i should be doing up there? he said right. first of all, not many people write any more. and frankly delighted hand and not on the computer because that can be corrupted. do that. he may not be very important when you were in congress but will see the important when you were gone. [laughter] historians will look at it. i worked for the secretary of state and it is pretty cool through the oklahoma city bombing to have that for the next day to see what he was doing in the crisis. so i have always dabbled with that in certain periods of time but when i got here that there are no breaks. >>host: is it discipline to write every day? >> i do that about three times a week but you keep your schedule there's a you can bring down every right back. we don't have a certain time but i am very systematic to keep that up. i go back kiev occasionally and as they have gone there could . i have known him as executive director of the campaign committee it actually came up with the poster in they were rebels back then all the leadership hated them. so i knew him very well i was on the committee we we're doing well. now senator plunge was the chief whip and roy was exceptionally good to me he did not know me but contributed to my campaign in was a very competitive race. because we head the defense going in both places and said what kind of help? i have heard about this and that they had hit those stores i got here he made me though with by was the first of my class to become the deputy whip my second term. and i am on team blunt which put me in the doghouse about to read three years with the speaker greater but one night before the race ochered i was sitting in the capital with friends of mine end jon klein and others who are gone now can't we were having a greek and there is a big table where john tended to hang out the we're all on the committee. so he sits down for a second to so i write that john k. by today's to sit with the guys in was chatting and i think he will run for leadership someday i will probably support him unless he runs against roy blunt in that case i am screwed. and that is exactly what happened. i reading this i cannot believe i actually said that and sent that to a friend jon klein he was very close to the speaker thrushes career. but the speaker has a wonderful phrase to the right things for the right reasons and the right thing will happen. so of course, the relationship changed pretty dramatically to the point i was always the defender or whoever writes this was not around here very well that that happens in politics. it was not unfair but we were just on different sides of a lot of things. it is not smart to be on the wrong side of the leader but the time you are the speaker we had worked through our issues to find common ground. >>host: had to get your books? >> and i very seldom go to the library. but i like to all of the book i would not marked up a library book or somebody loan that to me so i do go to bookstores and eyebrows like everybody else and i read reviews i see something or hear something there is no particular a systematic way but i want to read something many is go to the internet then pop up something about this and there you go. if i have the opportunity to meet an author the other night at the library of

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