Transcripts For CSPAN2 Grace And Justice On Death Row 20170122

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>> [inaudible conversations] >> good evening everyone. i work with some of the events here at the store and help the owner if you could take a moment to silence yourself phones that would be great we will have an hour-long event and we add a microphone over here please >> >> he lives in alexandria with his wife who is a former prosecutor and their three children and this is his first off for fluff fife steven face of fear of a felt that if that happened. and if there is an opening i would like to come and work here. but places life we can all be freed thieu's be fought our ideas with freedom of speech if simply a flat flu riffraff off to be here today for a loaf of bread for a 15th half-life charity if i do kef five of 44f . >> and does great work and you are sitting in the room with a living legend. the executive director has been fighting the death penalty for decades. and his group gathers eggs honorees foreign annual conference to advocate for changes for. i fully with my foot fence i love you. translator: [booing] phone negative off. [applause] for. >> as a third year law student we could represent individuals my first client was charged with stealing for a fife for the police officer for off argue forcefully i felt sorry he said don't worry i still love life. -- i sold the five fled thanks for sitting in for me for elf nova davis the furred the deaf for a fee before. that is the feeling i chase every day with the food for four felt representing fouls in the navy chalets' 58 criminal a mile away. >> >> when the book came out i went back to houston to the same chinese food place looking for closure from the fortune cookie and in the movie version bradley cooper plays me and says you did a good you are awesome justices serve to. mines said pandas are queued to. but that was not the ecosure was looking for. it was very high a profile for of all murder for suppose to be in inside job with 300,000 trough for the crime went on as fluff the store clerk burst day back was murdered the officer that responded just on the verge of retirement was murdered as well. and was convicted of murdering officer clark. a very quick trial if faugh $100,000 of controversy took one week. but this was three days. that is all that it took he was frustrated with his defense he made a phone call to where she worked faugh for a very effective counsel for if not afford a of leff he was convicted and sentenced to death. off for a jury president on a country road by he tipper co as sheriff would come out so i tried to bring some light and said check the oil for mean and the next time i bought food because literally there was a top global l. wright before the turn that is where we might go actually saw abroad them to the sheriff. he said i don't want your yankee tacos and threw them back. then next time he said open the trunk and i said no. i said i will not and he said why not? wise said because my god is if a drunk and i raking him out pet -- strong, and i am breaking him out. really? that is when he finally smiled. after that he called me yankee lawyer but it was affectionate. the execution date sack guy was there the condemned are ready to die than they ship them to where they carry out the procedure. that will never be you. i promise i was not so sure. but you could bring $20 in vending machine quarters fall of the junk food he could teach. where i buy $20 worth of food. what can i do for you? and that is when we begin to form a brotherhood. put because i knew his story. to tell him someone love tim and wanted nothing more than his freedom. off otherwise he wasn't his cell food for the fed seafront off it would break people from oaf so we're on death row. pretty significant evidence? no. there has never been a shred of evidence with no gunshot residue and then testified in exchange for a lighter sentence. i was shocked. where is the evidence? for pressure and corruption one lady said she saw in fact, morning profile faugh puff press she said to follow him and i will breed i felt pressured and frightened. prior to trial before and telling me i could be a rested in vice said it could not identify him on that car. puff blair was that for critical than his role for f ratliff laugh at his dauphins house. that she was fat jeff mchugh don't tell me what he fluffy the full 50fe was held for oaf deaf even if a falloff the district attorney did not have the faith her she was in jail for months she said i could not take it anymore and i chose my kids in change my story. and that is the evidence that convicted dewayne to put him on an death row for profile they were badgering her saying we will take your kids away. flayed turf the first pulitzer prize was one i thought that was pretty cool considering i was the source . to disclose bonds that the grand jury was investigating the active duty police officer. a realized i was up against something big. and then to grab their friend to go to the grand jury. bennett was mostly old white people. how is that happening? faugh that men said was abolished in texas. [applause] so now they are picked like everywhere else you get the unknowing letter in the mail to show up. puff 1986 he is not here but let's system is changing and to have an iq of 69. with a straightforward law but as san expert gave him an extra four points to say he was stressed out at the time of testing. i am barely smart enough to be a lawyer i know you don't give somebody four points for stress. that they can hire an expert or a psychologist. that dr. was fined $5,000 and cannot do death row evaluations any more. [applause] so now there is a new sentencing phase. his girlfriend was impossible to find as the critical witness. i would get a tip i would fly there she would see me and slammed the door. puff i sat there eight hours . i knew she could go back to the original story half anthony called me to say i know. just go talk to the girlfriend. she told me that she chose her kids but yes she saw it on her caller id. i went back to texas for fend the reef deficiencies my client is innocent and said all of you yankee lawyers come to texas we know better. good luck. five if nine like that very vetch for cough i said i will be laugh. off -- i will be back. off the phone call he kept telling me he made the phone call from that house. five was on the upper income of diversified think i've wooded be cursing. phone i could not believe it. he said it is okay. i believe in you. thanks for standing up for me. the man and solitary confinement. faugh he gave me peace off and i felt encouraged to and i would leave their. faugh prevent then from my colleagues would say the following p officer in charge of the case recently found for a box of documents in his crotch -- derived. not kidding. while spring cleaning is garage a single piece of paper. pdf literally a piece of paper sitting in the garage. attached was a subpoena showing he's subpoenaed the phone company day after eric had testified to see if she was telling the truth. guess what? she was. i encourage you to buy my book. a single piece of paper saved his life. but that is what it was and what it took. what if there was of fire? in tuesday we will be back and to their credit they agreed to a new trial without a hearing lifted is rare for. and after this the court of criminal appeals waited 17 months to do it. we had a piece of paper but we waited 17 months but was the most sad and a greek i have never baton. and one time, many are there in texas? no ruling. but then the court of criminal appeals to say they would never grant a new trial in the election year. they agreed to dismiss the charge and dewayne walked out of death row. [applause] off, this is a journey. is it is a love story. what one person would do for another. character in is what you do when no one is watching. i would believe in his innocence. and he believed to be. i don't know why. i promised i would not cry. here is one of those chapters about that struggle. then knew levy elected judge put this on the back burner. newly and -- knowing that this was too big to climb. off suddenly how sweet the sound. now i really will cry. find the other guy f. officer f. cuff died of cancer in separate for dewayne instead. puff for the innocents reminded me why i was defending him. park for puff comfort food he showed me his work. he talked about where he would go if he got out. he would go back to the louisiana to see his daughter. he became quiet. i would stare at him. i would put my hand on the glass. i will get you out. i promised. with a small smile he looked up and said i did not do with. i cried and repeated my promise. i bought him food he said a guy on the of floor they got drunk and laughed all might long. and one included a terrible policy with a feeding tube. knopf kelleher fifth out whenever she won tiff flood negative wanted and i took her hand five will break your daddy back to you. i was thinking of him constantly and my daughter asked fluky was a said he was put in time now for something he did not do. off. >> i would have the ink remix on my i applied. soul of rage against the of machine. anchoring is a gift i would be sold angry bed then i have to come home and to be at father and friend and i would rely on the british singer and his manager said he wants to speak to me and he signed my book. [laughter] you can look at this you cannot have it. soon after dewayne was released to see a beautiful sunset i felt i was being serenade did personally. i said they scorer giving me the strength. as be walked out i said in my head but there was nothing but love in the end. my post exoneration wife for had -- life had begun. [applause] >> i know you will are promoting your book but thanks for being here. is an honor to use me. it isn't shocking but it is inspirational and most of all for the greatest thing a man can do with it is save another man's life. five you can sign my amazon kendall. [laughter] >> the best question i have never had. >> faugh fifth i hope and expect you have received nothing but praise for saving enough and from deaf for -- and death. would you still argue that he should be put to death with the oklahoma bombing quick. >> i wrote the book but so many people worked on the case. i m lucky enough to write the book. faugh off it is not the one-man show. over $1 million of fees i defend everybody the same. guilty or not so those of they are charged with a crime if he wanted to die at would advocate for him not to die. for. >> when you see them together they are brothers. >> that was a good question. [applause] half deal had a gas for rough approximate people that are innocent? >> texas has a bad record they executed a man convicted of arson later found to be in the sense posthumously. some people say 4% 260 indexes and 4 percent of that. people who know say this more likely 10%. but the tragedy is not every day has a champion. if file cannot do another one. it took way too much out of me and people who do this for a living deserve my respect. ed has the lowest number of executions this year only seven or eight the first time this year less than 50 percent agreed. it was the bill in california and nebraska but i believe we are near the end. put with a certain democrat would have won the election. my father in is incarcerated but not for him is innocence . i have a question and that is related to currency bends -- evens fife and myself about what is happening today with standing rock with the perpetual murder if they don't have lower expertise what path for word is there to challenge dishonesty for professionals or people like me? >> i am happy to send your father a book. the question is topical. dewayne was a black life that did not matter and he would have been executed. put the younger generation is not watch the late one negative standing up for this prof we cannot stand for this anymore. so to advocate and support those groups of a texas defender service he a of >> the are guilty and not my grandma and what my answer her what a l. but a cold in here like ike and government and three days hugh me here beta o near-perfect, and he society's teesix fly hope for the very seldom do i walk out to. >> it is an honor to listen to you. there are two issues and one is the tremendous way puffed the murder of an innocent man we could sit here to talk about death row but more importantly there seems to be thousands troughs so perhaps an adequate. '' period it seems that it seems wrong to make getting. >> it does not change. that is how the system works but with intimidation and badgering and we could only finance at out through the diligence of our team. i see a lot where somebody testifies and these things happen. ninety-seven%. so few federal trials. one judge said he has not had a trial in years because they will have a police -- they do a plea deal. faugh procter roughly half to have the heart for half. if you are missing those faugh for freebie not. >> i just came back from being out of the united states. wirth i am curious to know now of the cut is for what has stood out for me is the word exoneration does not mean you are innocent because on the record you are still required to see were arrested and cannot find a job. you do not have a clean record and people do not know that that people think your life is fine and i am curious about your thoughts. >> he is exonerated and innocence. but i do understand your point. and now you can have the records. he has had challenges but when he walks out he was speak words of love my work -- my wife and my church. but he is peaceful. but he is a wonderful man. he is doing great. better than probably zero lots of others that go to the conference. and then to be in a charity bed. >> ets they are innocent but the system does not say they are in a sense to make that is true spirit that is important for people to understand. >> obviously there is a book but my hope is that peace continues. >> did you buy him his house ? ltd. is in the book. not yet. but no doubt. we are brothers for life. barris a picture we have matching tattoos. , if you buy multiple copies i will show you. [laughter] he is stuck with me forever. and we will make sure he is taken care of. >> what is your experience in terms of people with mental illness of the police force not having a the proper skills? or how the system judges? >> we do a terrible job. there are people who have the serious mental illness but i would get as many as i could to go back to the traditional roots if they had the mental health issue to reassert. it is tough feeling. >> i would assume to read the acknowledgments and that brought tears to my eyes. >> thanks for being here. [applause]

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