Transcripts For CSPAN2 EPA Nominee Scott Pruitt Testifies At

[inaudible conversations] we will resume the of confirmation hearing aerostar it by saying sometimes you can sit down over lunch answering questions to an halfhours i wish i said Something Different anything you would like to clarify . Unresponsive to the white house questions about the steps we have taken with the underground storage i have initiated three cases with valero and bp and con co exxon and others are in settlement discussions. Thanks for that clarification in shiny and wyoming it was discovered that chemical used by the military to decrease the engines is seeping into the of water supply the army corps of engineer refuse to even did a mitt it was the cause of the pollution. It was obvious to everyone that shows a large plume now they are addressing the of water supply with the state of the are water facility but where you went after polluters to hold them accountable . In that mentioned uh case that is something we actually initiated that was both respect to federal and state violations and with that Enforcement Actions we have worked with the of Wildlife Commission with enforcement of the state law what was troubling to many of us in the Previous Administration officials went to extraordinary lengths to avoid disclosing their communication that allows Public Access so for example, lisa jackson at the time use the email account under the name of Richard Windsor as opposed to her own. If confirmed willing to refrain from taking any such action making it difficult to access your written communications quick. Guess. As indicated i believe transparency and rulemaking are important. I reserve the remainder of my time. As we discussed pending on the epa efforts with the emissions from power plants that 50 percent come from power plants. Largely coalfired. There is no Fish Consumption did buy series for mercury bay and i think all other contaminants combined including your own state of oklahoma. If you believe the epa should not move forward, how do states clean up mercury . Actually i have not stated it should not regulate mercury in that regard. But our challenge was the process used in that case. Eric is not a statement or a belief that should not be regulated as a hazardous air pollutant. That section deals with Health Concerns of citizens and the reason why maximum technology that is required that mercury shed be dealt with with the epa. We worked for a number of years with of bush said ministrations proposing mercury including senator alexander of work on legislation similar of one of the differences of what we proposed, with respect to reducing the emissions of mercury. Ive done what they call for four emission production but i propose a reduction of 80 fifth. He said he thought folks could do better. And literally at this table one witness representing Technology Companies every utility representative said the letters from the trade association and to meet those reductions but it turns out that they exceeded them. Has that instruct did you in any way . And it is important with the partnership i think that should be involved to set the standards and to improve air quality . Let me just got you there. Id like to say in diversity lies opportunity but there is economic advantage to be gained from cleaning up those at work on the mercury missions, filleted money ran on the worlds. Similarly money made from diesel emissions from old diesel engines. Did you ever give any thought to that . To develop that technology . I will never forget a conversation we had working on legislation with a bunch of ceos on that issue again death the conversation said in an older fellow said here is what you need to do. Tell us what the rules will be and flexibility and get out of the way. Do you believe that standards of cafe standards making it clear to open the door for economic productivity greg. I do. Where did you see that have been quick. It is not widely known in oklahoma but so we have into have obligations looking at modifying the facilities there is the discretion not to do that more economically with the objectives that we have under the mandate of. Senator . Congratulations on the nomination. As you can tell from this committee to be divided on this issue which you endeavor to headline but understanding one another in is important the matter how many times we save the same thing with where they live for the best way to pursue environmental issues. So several coal miners traveled here this morning waiting in the hall making new friends in the audience and want to thank them for coming that is the basis of the issue of what i try to address talking about the different facets so the question is for you and in the very first hearing we had the assistance illustrator come to testify in when i would press why in the Public Meetings epa did not come to West Virginia or any other states that rely on coal this is what she said. We tried to when we would schedule a National Level meetings you want those for people were comfortable coming. Of the laugh. That want you to be comfortable anywhere whether rhode island or west region and people need to know you are listening that you understand the ramifications for your decisions. We had a meeting after that to fix compaq for of the birthplace of the Ranking Member with talking about the hardships of his neighbor and how that impacts the School System and all the of coal companies. I would implore you to commit today to both sides of western, jr. And to talk to decliners of the job and Economic Impact and how we Work Together with the intended goal. I appreciate that you share that it shows the importance of listening and a leading. This party is very new at this time and senate heard to lybrand you cited concerns and if confirmed as administrator that i spend time to be helpful with those environmental issues. I would like to get some clarification about how maytime is you have sued the epa. View of law is important. Then you talk about the cases you brought forward doesnt challenge the regulation Better Process of the rule of law to overstepped those boundaries is the intent of congress by legislating to the epa. And the courts have agreed this is the case. Could you restate that position greg. More so than the statutes that are past the body has recognized in partnership with the epa many of you talk about the rule of law with the interestrate your. Dealing with water issues it is important that you do so consistent with the framework. With the Administrative Agency it does inspire confidence but to pick the winners and losers that rule of law is not academic but to ensure the good outcomes with air and protecting the water. When we left off we were talking about fed could put u. N. Gulf lifted interest but if not disclosed talking about the dark money operation or that supports the attorney general association. As a hypothetical, if you had raised significant amounts of money from corporations subject to epa regulation might that place you in a conflict of interest quick. As a career person in reviewed these conflicts i have disclosed all entities i have been affiliated with the. Rebuild understand those ethics rules that predate dark linnaean they said is they dont have the authority. That the Regulatory Authority on ethics has not caught up with the post Citizens United dark many world you have spent an attorney general could debbie a conflict of interest within your definition had to raise significant amounts of money and they will have business before the epa. But to the degree i was never an officer of the super pak that you referred to. But we dont have any answers ceramic they look to determine the nature of the relationship then indicated to be evaluated in the future. He ast a question could that put you in a conflict of interest . You said no. Lets say you made a call we need a lot of money there is dark money the money will go and really get some 1 million. As indicated in her letter to me that those particular matters will rise to be evaluated at that point. But to raise that hypothetical Million Dollars but that is my point. Senator i did not serve as the officer capacity. That is not the question. Did you raise money for the rule of Law Defense Fund from the entitys appearing before the epa subject to regulation if so and how much . It seems that is not unusual give would need to be a party that is what you indicated to me. I will seek the counsel to make a decision to be recused unnecessary. At this point i deduce that if those facts were true to go through the fund to support your efforts that is not something anybody should care about even if that corporation is before you subject to regulation. Epa ethics would evaluate that to. Account represented in the future if you dont do that now . If the matter comes before the authority. There is ongoing obligations that i have even as administrator. I think the senate that the reason is plus cat this question. The fact they have not been updated with the big political organizations created with dark money does not take away this an obligation to find a conflict of interest and gives me very little, for you cannot answer those questions for years faugh. Senator would like to introduce for the record for headlines ethics officials clear the trump epa nominee from the office of government ethics its currently the oklahoma attorneygeneral the office affirmed that his disclosures comply with the federal laws and rules and are the least complicated of the nominees. I do find it ironic that we are in a situation using the definition of dark monday literally raised millions of dollars. I was like to talk about that regulatory burden. Despite the progress trying to do the right thing that is a prime example from the stakeholders. Certainly it has prevented businesses on Economic Growth this Small Business Association Found more than half held off on hiring because it dont know what the rules will be. Dimension several times can you talk about the impact you have seen with regulatory uncertainty bred. With the Visibility Program phyfe that sf is 5ff for free schiff half negative room facility f fullfledged laugh to civil a state of level of inflation and plan to beef the deadline by decades in and they force that on the state costing consumers five did of money. Would i did not talk about earlier is the importance of partnership the use of federal implementation plans president bush and clinton with uh clean air act. So it shows the attitude of indifference that is counterproductive. Fuhr so tuesdays other stakeholders to sue the federal government your goal is not to do away with regulation but to make it such that to file the of Regulatory Authority quick. Yes. Where we satisfied the mandate sui reached a couple of decades the ahead of schedule. That cost consumers hundreds of millions of dollars. One of the things we have seen over the last eight years is on part of the epa with various without the expertise i think expertise is the best of what they have done and have not bend in the webcast. So to take there expertise into careful consideration. Agency cooperation is important with the improved making should be a good yang collaborative way that it works with other agencies to ensure it is doing all that it can. If feels like it is the ultimate in to have the protection from the other agency said. I agree. Mr. Pruitt are you familiar. That looks like leslie and fillers. Yes. How Many Americans have asthma . It is about one out of 10 so as a Significant Health problem i have unfortunate not to have asthma but those who do feel like they are in the lower those standards for the ground toplevel ozone. But to determine that with save between three and 6 billion by diminishing. Q challenge to this and a lot choate a lawsuit student it was not under the program cost cannot be considered. A record pace challenge the need to the 70 parts per billion and as you know, if had only been an operation to years. It is important faugh that those that dont obtain that pollutant should focus to meet the level statute. Based on the tail ability standard . And there were numerous groups that said no. This is totally attainable. And i will submit a list for the record. Without objection. And by implementing that it would save a newly 230,000 asthma attacks among children. 160,000 and how many emergency room visits. That is the best guesstimate that would save premature death so furious something that profoundly affects path off the health of those in an oklahoma or my home state of oregon and that is felice attainable not on a process issue whether or not there is the cost benefit analysis bellwether issue was attainable. So why so hard rather than fighting on this side of the people of oklahoma quick. Let me say presently it is around 40 percent. After increasing those on a team of percentages that is a very Important Role of the epa and work with local officials to monitor. That is a goal. You made your point clear. I simply disagree. None of these standards are and take obtained there it is the strategy this could take through 2025 to be fully implemented but leonel bad addition vision you save tremendous amount of money and lives. I am fighting for the quality of life deeply resent those that try to damage the americans across the country to value the profits of companies is a character issue. To determine if they are a fit character issue would entitle the potential impact of the epa regulations on the low income groups it goes back from 2015 the epa regulations including Carbon Dioxide emissions in the year 2020 to hundred thousand black jobs would be lost nor 300,000 hispanic jobs additionally commencement with the Median Household Income decreases throughout those listed in the report. Senator fisher quick. Mr. Chairman hear we go again. I am happy we have an opportunity. Nebraska much like the oklahoma is a rural state and in betty many cases the fees kerf 50 feed off 5 miles or hours away for planter this illustration farmers and renters fell 4 5 enough fly a the epa for 4 8 if wolf off often deaf t fare real survey laugh for then my stay while flying over the document and the facilities with photographs. This was disconcerting that many livestock producers live and raise on the familys but the epa already delegated that authority from the clean water act from environmental quality. What was it you do to ensure that and how we work with the regulated community to build trust that is the subject of the tactics quick. As i indicated that would seek to comply with full participation that all voices are heard with respect flu for liftoff and it is a lack of that voice so i would work to build the collaborative relationship faugh to restore confidence in addressing and responding to all issues. In the exit interview jean m. Mccarthy has admitted she has had a bad relationship with agriculture flags coulter 04df s3 tran4 friday gave bad relationship is an understatement in this case the epa philosophy is dead much clean post flat farmers cannot begins to words of our land and instead seems cuff fled epa wanted to move a playoff for even prevent farming the Agricultural Community is looking for her new features jeff finney do have statements from idaho for turf officials of life and that would close by quoting a few those berger oklahoma secretary of agriculture says scott pruitt will continue the efforts with our environment with respect to municipalities and businesses that is laced to here. Nebraska cattlemen president s stated simply fled for mr. Pruitt sees the environment is not opposing terms but complementary in a work with those relationships for leaving with production to improve the environment and again i am happy to look forward to the relationship being established again so all parts of our society in this country can participate to receive the recognition we are good stewards of the land. If confirmed what will be your relationship fichte . Bill you enforce current laws or respect the limits that we have . In meg yes on both counts. But we need to reject that paradigm if you are pro energy your entire environment we can make great progress since the 70s we can also be a good steward of the environment. As i said earlier every member of this committee believes in clean air and clean water want an environment to manage the Natural Resources in a responsible manner. Thank you. I want to try to get your understanding so this stakeholders know what is required. The versus the Supreme Court decision there has ben and uncertainty. Do you believe that clarity should be set by statute or regulation is by the epa quick. That is a great question hiding q are right the clean water act says navigable waters does not give quality and taking steps to provide clarity is important absent congress reporting so perhaps there is a time emplace to what this body means with the navigable waters. And congress for whatever reasons has not been able to respond to it did come forward if that was resisted by many of the stakeholders what was wrong with that regulation . Where should be regulate . How do we define that quite. The challenge up until now kimballs the counterbalancing epa were the steps taken by the epa that is something that justice coleus said transforms the statute. I think if you classify a dry creek bed that is dry 90 percent of the year as a water. Benefits to administration they tried to deal with that p. Think that was not clear . I would agree the clarity around this definition is the central but as the Supreme Court has taken up a matter but that response is an important step to take. [inaudible conversations] one good afternoon everybody i am the director of Something Different<\/a> anything you would like to clarify . Unresponsive to the white house questions about the steps we have taken with the underground storage i have initiated three cases with valero and bp and con co exxon and others are in settlement discussions. Thanks for that clarification in shiny and wyoming it was discovered that chemical used by the military to decrease the engines is seeping into the of water supply the army corps of engineer refuse to even did a mitt it was the cause of the pollution. It was obvious to everyone that shows a large plume now they are addressing the of water supply with the state of the are water facility but where you went after polluters to hold them accountable . In that mentioned uh case that is something we actually initiated that was both respect to federal and state violations and with that Enforcement Actions<\/a> we have worked with the of Wildlife Commission<\/a> with enforcement of the state law what was troubling to many of us in the Previous Administration<\/a> officials went to extraordinary lengths to avoid disclosing their communication that allows Public Access<\/a> so for example, lisa jackson at the time use the email account under the name of Richard Windsor<\/a> as opposed to her own. If confirmed willing to refrain from taking any such action making it difficult to access your written communications quick. Guess. As indicated i believe transparency and rulemaking are important. I reserve the remainder of my time. As we discussed pending on the epa efforts with the emissions from power plants that 50 percent come from power plants. Largely coalfired. There is no Fish Consumption<\/a> did buy series for mercury bay and i think all other contaminants combined including your own state of oklahoma. If you believe the epa should not move forward, how do states clean up mercury . Actually i have not stated it should not regulate mercury in that regard. But our challenge was the process used in that case. Eric is not a statement or a belief that should not be regulated as a hazardous air pollutant. That section deals with Health Concerns<\/a> of citizens and the reason why maximum technology that is required that mercury shed be dealt with with the epa. We worked for a number of years with of bush said ministrations proposing mercury including senator alexander of work on legislation similar of one of the differences of what we proposed, with respect to reducing the emissions of mercury. Ive done what they call for four emission production but i propose a reduction of 80 fifth. He said he thought folks could do better. And literally at this table one witness representing Technology Companies<\/a> every utility representative said the letters from the trade association and to meet those reductions but it turns out that they exceeded them. Has that instruct did you in any way . And it is important with the partnership i think that should be involved to set the standards and to improve air quality . Let me just got you there. Id like to say in diversity lies opportunity but there is economic advantage to be gained from cleaning up those at work on the mercury missions, filleted money ran on the worlds. Similarly money made from diesel emissions from old diesel engines. Did you ever give any thought to that . To develop that technology . I will never forget a conversation we had working on legislation with a bunch of ceos on that issue again death the conversation said in an older fellow said here is what you need to do. Tell us what the rules will be and flexibility and get out of the way. Do you believe that standards of cafe standards making it clear to open the door for economic productivity greg. I do. Where did you see that have been quick. It is not widely known in oklahoma but so we have into have obligations looking at modifying the facilities there is the discretion not to do that more economically with the objectives that we have under the mandate of. Senator . Congratulations on the nomination. As you can tell from this committee to be divided on this issue which you endeavor to headline but understanding one another in is important the matter how many times we save the same thing with where they live for the best way to pursue environmental issues. So several coal miners traveled here this morning waiting in the hall making new friends in the audience and want to thank them for coming that is the basis of the issue of what i try to address talking about the different facets so the question is for you and in the very first hearing we had the assistance illustrator come to testify in when i would press why in the Public Meetings<\/a> epa did not come to West Virginia<\/a> or any other states that rely on coal this is what she said. We tried to when we would schedule a National Level<\/a> meetings you want those for people were comfortable coming. Of the laugh. That want you to be comfortable anywhere whether rhode island or west region and people need to know you are listening that you understand the ramifications for your decisions. We had a meeting after that to fix compaq for of the birthplace of the Ranking Member<\/a> with talking about the hardships of his neighbor and how that impacts the School System<\/a> and all the of coal companies. I would implore you to commit today to both sides of western, jr. And to talk to decliners of the job and Economic Impact<\/a> and how we Work Together<\/a> with the intended goal. I appreciate that you share that it shows the importance of listening and a leading. This party is very new at this time and senate heard to lybrand you cited concerns and if confirmed as administrator that i spend time to be helpful with those environmental issues. I would like to get some clarification about how maytime is you have sued the epa. View of law is important. Then you talk about the cases you brought forward doesnt challenge the regulation Better Process<\/a> of the rule of law to overstepped those boundaries is the intent of congress by legislating to the epa. And the courts have agreed this is the case. Could you restate that position greg. More so than the statutes that are past the body has recognized in partnership with the epa many of you talk about the rule of law with the interestrate your. Dealing with water issues it is important that you do so consistent with the framework. With the Administrative Agency<\/a> it does inspire confidence but to pick the winners and losers that rule of law is not academic but to ensure the good outcomes with air and protecting the water. When we left off we were talking about fed could put u. N. Gulf lifted interest but if not disclosed talking about the dark money operation or that supports the attorney general association. As a hypothetical, if you had raised significant amounts of money from corporations subject to epa regulation might that place you in a conflict of interest quick. As a career person in reviewed these conflicts i have disclosed all entities i have been affiliated with the. Rebuild understand those ethics rules that predate dark linnaean they said is they dont have the authority. That the Regulatory Authority<\/a> on ethics has not caught up with the post Citizens United<\/a> dark many world you have spent an attorney general could debbie a conflict of interest within your definition had to raise significant amounts of money and they will have business before the epa. But to the degree i was never an officer of the super pak that you referred to. But we dont have any answers ceramic they look to determine the nature of the relationship then indicated to be evaluated in the future. He ast a question could that put you in a conflict of interest . You said no. Lets say you made a call we need a lot of money there is dark money the money will go and really get some 1 million. As indicated in her letter to me that those particular matters will rise to be evaluated at that point. But to raise that hypothetical Million Dollars<\/a> but that is my point. Senator i did not serve as the officer capacity. That is not the question. Did you raise money for the rule of Law Defense Fund<\/a> from the entitys appearing before the epa subject to regulation if so and how much . It seems that is not unusual give would need to be a party that is what you indicated to me. I will seek the counsel to make a decision to be recused unnecessary. At this point i deduce that if those facts were true to go through the fund to support your efforts that is not something anybody should care about even if that corporation is before you subject to regulation. Epa ethics would evaluate that to. Account represented in the future if you dont do that now . If the matter comes before the authority. There is ongoing obligations that i have even as administrator. I think the senate that the reason is plus cat this question. The fact they have not been updated with the big political organizations created with dark money does not take away this an obligation to find a conflict of interest and gives me very little, for you cannot answer those questions for years faugh. Senator would like to introduce for the record for headlines ethics officials clear the trump epa nominee from the office of government ethics its currently the oklahoma attorneygeneral the office affirmed that his disclosures comply with the federal laws and rules and are the least complicated of the nominees. I do find it ironic that we are in a situation using the definition of dark monday literally raised millions of dollars. I was like to talk about that regulatory burden. Despite the progress trying to do the right thing that is a prime example from the stakeholders. Certainly it has prevented businesses on Economic Growth<\/a> this Small Business<\/a> Association Found<\/a> more than half held off on hiring because it dont know what the rules will be. Dimension several times can you talk about the impact you have seen with regulatory uncertainty bred. With the Visibility Program<\/a> phyfe that sf is 5ff for free schiff half negative room facility f fullfledged laugh to civil a state of level of inflation and plan to beef the deadline by decades in and they force that on the state costing consumers five did of money. Would i did not talk about earlier is the importance of partnership the use of federal implementation plans president bush and clinton with uh clean air act. So it shows the attitude of indifference that is counterproductive. Fuhr so tuesdays other stakeholders to sue the federal government your goal is not to do away with regulation but to make it such that to file the of Regulatory Authority<\/a> quick. Yes. Where we satisfied the mandate sui reached a couple of decades the ahead of schedule. That cost consumers hundreds of millions of dollars. One of the things we have seen over the last eight years is on part of the epa with various without the expertise i think expertise is the best of what they have done and have not bend in the webcast. So to take there expertise into careful consideration. Agency cooperation is important with the improved making should be a good yang collaborative way that it works with other agencies to ensure it is doing all that it can. If feels like it is the ultimate in to have the protection from the other agency said. I agree. Mr. Pruitt are you familiar. That looks like leslie and fillers. Yes. How Many Americans<\/a> have asthma . It is about one out of 10 so as a Significant Health<\/a> problem i have unfortunate not to have asthma but those who do feel like they are in the lower those standards for the ground toplevel ozone. But to determine that with save between three and 6 billion by diminishing. Q challenge to this and a lot choate a lawsuit student it was not under the program cost cannot be considered. A record pace challenge the need to the 70 parts per billion and as you know, if had only been an operation to years. It is important faugh that those that dont obtain that pollutant should focus to meet the level statute. Based on the tail ability standard . And there were numerous groups that said no. This is totally attainable. And i will submit a list for the record. Without objection. And by implementing that it would save a newly 230,000 asthma attacks among children. 160,000 and how many emergency room visits. That is the best guesstimate that would save premature death so furious something that profoundly affects path off the health of those in an oklahoma or my home state of oregon and that is felice attainable not on a process issue whether or not there is the cost benefit analysis bellwether issue was attainable. So why so hard rather than fighting on this side of the people of oklahoma quick. Let me say presently it is around 40 percent. After increasing those on a team of percentages that is a very Important Role<\/a> of the epa and work with local officials to monitor. That is a goal. You made your point clear. I simply disagree. None of these standards are and take obtained there it is the strategy this could take through 2025 to be fully implemented but leonel bad addition vision you save tremendous amount of money and lives. I am fighting for the quality of life deeply resent those that try to damage the americans across the country to value the profits of companies is a character issue. To determine if they are a fit character issue would entitle the potential impact of the epa regulations on the low income groups it goes back from 2015 the epa regulations including Carbon Dioxide<\/a> emissions in the year 2020 to hundred thousand black jobs would be lost nor 300,000 hispanic jobs additionally commencement with the Median Household Income<\/a> decreases throughout those listed in the report. Senator fisher quick. Mr. Chairman hear we go again. I am happy we have an opportunity. Nebraska much like the oklahoma is a rural state and in betty many cases the fees kerf 50 feed off 5 miles or hours away for planter this illustration farmers and renters fell 4 5 enough fly a the epa for 4 8 if wolf off often deaf t fare real survey laugh for then my stay while flying over the document and the facilities with photographs. This was disconcerting that many livestock producers live and raise on the familys but the epa already delegated that authority from the clean water act from environmental quality. What was it you do to ensure that and how we work with the regulated community to build trust that is the subject of the tactics quick. As i indicated that would seek to comply with full participation that all voices are heard with respect flu for liftoff and it is a lack of that voice so i would work to build the collaborative relationship faugh to restore confidence in addressing and responding to all issues. In the exit interview jean m. Mccarthy has admitted she has had a bad relationship with agriculture flags coulter 04df s3 tran4 friday gave bad relationship is an understatement in this case the epa philosophy is dead much clean post flat farmers cannot begins to words of our land and instead seems cuff fled epa wanted to move a playoff for even prevent farming the Agricultural Community<\/a> is looking for her new features jeff finney do have statements from idaho for turf officials of life and that would close by quoting a few those berger oklahoma secretary of agriculture says scott pruitt will continue the efforts with our environment with respect to municipalities and businesses that is laced to here. Nebraska cattlemen president s stated simply fled for mr. Pruitt sees the environment is not opposing terms but complementary in a work with those relationships for leaving with production to improve the environment and again i am happy to look forward to the relationship being established again so all parts of our society in this country can participate to receive the recognition we are good stewards of the land. If confirmed what will be your relationship fichte . Bill you enforce current laws or respect the limits that we have . In meg yes on both counts. But we need to reject that paradigm if you are pro energy your entire environment we can make great progress since the 70s we can also be a good steward of the environment. As i said earlier every member of this committee believes in clean air and clean water want an environment to manage the Natural Resources<\/a> in a responsible manner. Thank you. I want to try to get your understanding so this stakeholders know what is required. The versus the Supreme Court<\/a> decision there has ben and uncertainty. Do you believe that clarity should be set by statute or regulation is by the epa quick. That is a great question hiding q are right the clean water act says navigable waters does not give quality and taking steps to provide clarity is important absent congress reporting so perhaps there is a time emplace to what this body means with the navigable waters. And congress for whatever reasons has not been able to respond to it did come forward if that was resisted by many of the stakeholders what was wrong with that regulation . Where should be regulate . How do we define that quite. The challenge up until now kimballs the counterbalancing epa were the steps taken by the epa that is something that justice coleus said transforms the statute. I think if you classify a dry creek bed that is dry 90 percent of the year as a water. Benefits to administration they tried to deal with that p. Think that was not clear . I would agree the clarity around this definition is the central but as the Supreme Court<\/a> has taken up a matter but that response is an important step to take. [inaudible conversations] one good afternoon everybody i am the director of Congressional Affairs<\/a> and thanks for coming. This is the capital held briefing on Health Insurance<\/a> reform the repeal in","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia902906.us.archive.org\/27\/items\/CSPAN2_20170127_033300_EPA_Nominee_Scott_Pruitt_Testifies_at_Confirmation_Hearing\/CSPAN2_20170127_033300_EPA_Nominee_Scott_Pruitt_Testifies_at_Confirmation_Hearing.thumbs\/CSPAN2_20170127_033300_EPA_Nominee_Scott_Pruitt_Testifies_at_Confirmation_Hearing_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240627T12:35:10+00:00"}