written up to give it to you. we want to make it as rich as a pastry. so rather than speaking xm for a, which we will be later, i had written this thing for you. and it is just as obvious. let's see if it tells me how to get to the beginning of this. go to the beginning. okay. at the beginning. the book is there to jolt the way you think. you get your thinking and radically differently than you ever thought before. to get you looking at things as if you've never seen him before. realized how alien they are, and how easily they could be replaced by something radically different. so this book only gives you a little hint. and it starts because with a kindle joke. there are two little boys, eight in 10 years old. the worst little boys you have ever seen in your life, they are the children who wait until midnight when their parents are falling asleep, and they steal all the money. they steal from their money so that their parents don't know it. a light fired every structural find in a torture a cat. their parents are at wits end. and this is not working out. it looks like it's going to be the destruction of humanity of the these kids ever get their hands on nuclear weapons. so they read about a non-who has a remarkable gift with difficult children. she not only has her phd and special education, but she is a traditional disciplinary and, upchuck love. so she stripped down and she wants to sit down with the kids one at a time. so she sits down with child number one, the 10-year-old. and she has her ruler in her hand, and she said gently, just as a conversation, the simplest question she can think of. sun, where it god and little boys that they are and doesn't say a word. so she gets a little less patient, and she says little bit more sternly, sun, where is god? and the little child still doesn't answer. so she taps her palm with a steel ruler and comes out with that kind of control that has taken the command as kids from the south bronx to compton, california, and she says, son, i am asking you, where is god? and he runs away and hides in a closet. so this is the closet where they usually plan the next thing that they are going to do. the older kid is trembling. and he says, we are in really big trouble this time. god is missing. and they think that we did it. [laughter] arai, that is the obligatory joke. it does have to do with a missing dog. okay, so now i'm a look, we're going to get serious. picture this. you and i are seated at a café table before the big bang. you are a visionary and i am a hard-nosed have to feed it to believe it conservative. when it comes to logic and common sense, you and i have nothing better to do and we have been piling up empty coffee cups by the thousands ever since the nothingness began. you should see the size of our tab. [laughter] but here's the point. absolutely nothing is happening. why is that? because there is nothing. no action, no space, no time, no substance, no shadow, no sunshine, the cells of our bones, not a solitary thing. and there never has been. suddenly, you perk up. you had an insane daydream and viewpoint a few feet away from our table, and you tell me that if i watch carefully, i was the eight pin prick smashed from the nothingness and then expand and supersede. blowing up like a hyperkinetic balloon. easing forth like an entergy. a manifold of raw space and time. the board must of gotten to you, i tell you, it defies the laws of logic. i have been sitting there across the table from you forever. i have kept my eyes peeled, and there never has been a pin prick of any kind. once more, this wacky stuff, you crawl space and time has never existed either. nor will it ever exist. why is that? because nothing comes of nothing. zero upon zero equals zero. the idea that the basic facts could ever change is ridiculous. it defies the first law. the law of the conservation of energy. every respectable scientists will understand, why live, in exasperation and trying to get simple objects across to you, infinitely smaller than a pinprick infinitely shows its head. suddenly, a call of singularity. this just does not make sense. act as if nothing has happened. meanwhile, that pinprick blows up so fast that it makes me dizzy. and it has three properties that never existed before. three properties that are common sense prevailed should not exist. those properties are time, space, and speed. how in the nonexistent world to the nothingness pull this off? the pinprick keeps coming out. a space-time manifold occurs and i am stunned. what is happening? what is powering all the speed. oneworld invented these peculiar things? if they weren't invented, how the heck did the others break them out? well, i'm sitting here with my jaw-dropping. you are as cool as a scoop of gelato in a block of ice. you make another of your wacky predictions. the giant sale of space and time is about to produce something. called things. those things are going to precipitate time and speed the way that raindrops for precipitate. you have me with your prediction about the pinprick. that was the beginner's luck. sometimes luck of that time doesn't strike twice. listen to me carefully. there is no such thing as things. there never have been things. there never will be things. that is why its place we are sitting in is called the nothing. but no thing. do you get a? space and time and energy, and those are whacked out enough on their own. let's get logical. everyone knows that one plus one equals two. garbage in garbage out. what you get? you get space and time. matt. then there comes the hailstorm, a blizzard. what are they? their elementary particles. all popping simultaneously and it makes no sense. in fact, it is impossible. so why in the world have you been right twice? why has my rationality, my clear and sensible thinking all wrong the problem is a detective story it is a hunger the answer for that question. how do the cosmos create this if there is no god, how did a mere lifeless universe under with oceans on titan it offers five tools to explore this mystery. "the god problem" offers by rules type rules and five rebellions against nu issued reasons. a does not equal a. kindle does not equal two. it is difficult to believe anyone took it seriously. there is far less randomness indian worse than client believes, bleeds, and far less than you might think. number five, the hot new theory over the last 60 years. about information. not at all. if equations cover only a tiny sliver of what the theory finds. the real core of information is what information was called meeting. meaning is not covered in information theory meaning is central to the cosmos. protons and galaxies and stars, lizards and galaxies and puppies -- why bother with that? because the cosmos is the real paradox. the real breaker of the man-made rules of reason. this cosmos even i have been watching lucerne to now -- will soon turn out galaxies and you and me. now that, that is the "the god problem." but how did the "the god problem" come to be? okay. imagine this. you are a 12-year-old in a steel town to the atlantic coast. the city is a desert and the wasteland. your bar mitzvah is coming out. and you are avoiding the huge confession. one that will utterly change your life. a confession about one of the biggest superstars of history. that would be god. you are not a popular kid. other kids ignore you or try with all their might to keep you from getting anywhere near their backyard in their baseball diamonds and their clubs and their parties. when they do pay attention to, is to take aim. they kick soccer balls in your face. they grab your hat and tossed it over your head while you run back and forth. order required textbooks from your arms and threw them on the lawn covered with droppings. it haunts you. on saturday afternoon when you were 10, you were sitting in your families dark living room with a velvet curtain and you discover a book. it is about dedman, and dead that men have no choice. the two curios that you talk about in the book are galileo and the inventor of the microscope. even then, roughly 300 years ago. but they put you on a quest, an adventure that will last you a lifetime. your task is to pursue the truth, including the price of your life. the findings right under your nose, things to you in your parents and all the kids shunned you take for granted. look at these everyday things as though you've never seen them before. to look for hidden assumptions and overturn them to be a deliberate and devoted parent. even if the answers do not arrive in your lifetime. why do this because you're dead companion had lured you into science. in science is deliberate parenting. nonstop hurricane. according to the book in her lap, the first two rules are number one, the truth at any price, including the price of your life and number two, look at things as though you've never seen him before. then proceed from there. look at things that everyone takes for granted and then see what you learn. so the next big question will be more important than the next answer. new questions can produce scientific links. insights that nine years later, a guy we'll call for a pure and i'm sure. it becomes your mission. finding the question that will produce the next big perception. an unfolding this point that will allow others to radically pursue how did god get into the picture? the bar mitzvah is coming up in your 12 years old. your dad is going through a party for all the kids that you know, all the kids who humiliate you three quarters of a mile from your home. this time you are invited. yes, you are invited and this is the first time you will attend a celebration with your peers. congratulations. it gets better. the center of attention will be you. something is rumbling through your mind. something that you refuse to register. you have read the arguments about god. those arguments stick with you. god is a silly idea. if it took a god to create a universe, then nothing is complex and powerful as god would need a creator as well. and who or what created god? in other words, the notion doesn't make sense. the concessions you're dodging is this. you are about to become a stone cold atheist, but if you admit that to yourself right now, you'll blow the party. how do you handle this? e-store the question safely away in your subconscious and never put it in words, not even to yourself. that is just the beginning. the party happened. it's not what you expect. the other kids show up. just like they've always done. they get together in groups of four or six kids and they turn their back on you. you're left out even after own party. thank god that i was saying that the present is extraordinary. you write 200 thank you notes, it takes you two months. you are certain that there is no god as you can ride your bicycle at 30 miles an hour. if there were edd hanging around, what kind of a god could he be? every creature ever born, worn, a plant or animal or human being is guaranteed just one thing. that we are going to die. the results have been dubbed by the millions. there have been mass extensions, which would make god a monster and a pervert and a serial killer. a demented and addicted murder of entire species. once more something created this pain. and if that something was god, that would make him a torturer. not to mention a slayer of creatures in his own image. so he's either the ultimate war criminal or nonexistent. but this leaves you with the problem. a scientific challenge that is under your nose there is no creator, no engineer and an initiative consciousness, how did this rush of time and space come to be? how did the universe create something so surprising and something that broke every previous rule in a brand-new rules available. how do they make crusaders and continents and milky way's? that becomes the quest of a lifetime for you. the question will be given in 1956. it is the question who answered if you're lucky, how did the cosmos create. it is the question. it is howard bloom -- that is the "the god problem." close everywhere. who is in the game of life and information theories and the new kind of science. and the stories of all these. it comes from an obscure italian mathematician/forward eight years, it's 1961. statistics say yours is the brightest class of college students in the country. the college boards are higher than those in the entering classes at mit. was about to come as a shock. a shock and it almost impossible challenge. can smell your professor coming down the hall where you can see here. why is this? in the professor's hand there are sheets of paper and now forgotten technology. the professor enters the room. positions herself at the head of the table and asked a student at the papers around. only half a page of type. 165 words. is 165 words on those pages that will grow businesses. those words are nearly incomprehensible. they contain a set of rules you've never heard of before. they contain rules as tenet axioms. every week for the next nine months, you will be told to go out for those starting rules. it is very doable. just like your brainpower, only one in 10 of you will be able to handle it. those who are able to tackle this assignment will monopolize the attention of the girls in the class. girls desperate for help with homework. but what comes next is amazing. in addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, square roots, rational numbers. the entire mathematical system that took you eight years of grammar school and textbooks to learn, yes, the content over 7 pounds worth of paper is hidden in 165 words. prevalent from the beginning of axioms. but how is that? it will come to something from something the indians call cow dung. the balls are even more useful than cow dung. they come out until it's for the grits. why is relieving yourself in a consistent and handy? not a lot when you find it littering a pass late, pick it up and look for a neat pile of bricks. when you see a bit of dirt messing it up, dig it up and passionate with your saliva, laced with sterile perfume. look at the pile with the greatest height and social magnetism. the pile that is attracted the most attention. the pile with the greatest popularity. the firm on the order is hard to resist. look for the tallest pile around. neatly deposit this on top of the pile. there. what is the result of your thousands of repeated acts of tidiness? was the result of what mathematicians call iteration? was the result? pillar after filling of termite dung. so that it sticks out and build the top of the column outward in the direction. in other words, the peaks reach out and touch each other. what is the second rule of recognition and what does it generate? massive walls. the result in architectural masterpiece. 18 feet high and a basement 6 feet deep. 972 times the height of the average termite. that is the equivalent of a 640 story human building, over 1 mile and a half five and 4 miles wide. top with domes and air-conditioning the ups the fungus that feeds the colonies. it keeps the temperature at study 86-degree. no matter what the outside conditions are. 1000 liters of air each day. it houses 2 million inhabitants. tiny obsessions and trivial fixations, big things can grow. but here's the real mystery. one that gets to the heart of the problem. is there a termite blueprint for the structure? no, there is not. how did this particular termite city arrived? from the simple rule, and from another basic rule, attraction and repulsion. it is so primitive that it showed up 13.7 billion years ago in the first week of the big bang. it showed up at the time of the universe and his basic architecture. it owes its existence to iteration, the repetition of attraction and repulsion. it goes the distance to attraction and repulsion 26 billion times or more. and guess what? towns and cities and civilizations and cultures and religion and science in the words that we are using communicate with you. propulsion and repetition, persistence and obsessive and driven repetition. the simple rule is an assumption. but the assumptions of health and scientists. but unlike many functions, the termite one wraps around and there is something more antibiotic about it. in fact, they are holding onto a reality that does not exist until the termite makes it. no single termite can make this. the reality that only tens of thousands of termite can make. it is a rule that makes laws were there were no walls and towers were there were no towers and on the very forefront of your brain, they put into world that wasn't there. a world of what could be. a world of possibility. it is an axiom. remember those 165 words i recall it's? those were axioms. and those have strange powers. of how and why. the power of the termite. here comes the problem number three. it is a mystery hidden in plain sight. hidden in one of science's favorite fixations. imagine that you and the woman and the man of your dreams or find that united states after a insulting the weekend in london. >> it has a distinct identity. it is seen as well formed at the back of a whale. a member when you were a kid and hold a ball of clay out on the table? making it a long, round, clay rope? affiliate looks like. it's very peculiar. it just doesn't exist. of course it exists, you can. you can follow it for a thousand miles, you can for a thousand miles, you can follow it from the mid-atlantic for days until it broke on the shore of me. if you are in the water with a surfboard, you could write it. and if you carefully if you're way off the jetty of the maine coast, and utrecht are slipped while a breaker was smashing against the granite, your body would register leaves power. the wave would mash and kill you. as a survivor to the wave, it's not until 200 30,000 people in 2004. and it killed the 2004 people in fukushima, japan. that is very real. well, yes and no. imagine you were a molecule in the atlantic ocean. like a termite, you follow the local rules. you do what your neighbor is that you should do. in a circle anywhere from 3 feet to 163 feet. first you circle up to the surface and then circle back. you don't go anywhere. you just keep making the same circular movement over and over again. you iterate any repeat a simple rule. but there is more. when you circle to the service, you make it to the way. the next time you circle to the surface, you make the peak of yet another way. yes, another wave. away with another distinct identity, wave that will retain that identity or hundreds of thousands or mouse that will do a heck of a lot of traveling. would you travel? no. no thing travels. unlike the termite, you, a water molecule, you are too big to see. look at it from the way this interview. you are nothing, you are no thing. your molecules are never the same for more than 60 seconds. no thing travels a thousand miles from the middle of the planet to the coast of maine. nothing at all. yet you continue to be yourself. and you travel. but how is that? the matter that makes you of is constantly changing. from minute to minute, you assemble yourself. you are not a german with an aunt changing collection. you are power and substance. you are something impossible, a sheep without substance. you are a seducer and a kidnapper and a recruiter. you are a form of organization. you are a recruitment strategy. one in the world is a recruitment strategy? well, it's a process that keeps its shape second by second. the pattern that opposes identity and economies energy into this. the philosopher said he could never put your foot into the same river twice. when you dip your toe into the water the first time, he felt the flow of water around you. but if you get a nanosecond later, the water around your toe the first time is already 5 feet downstream. in the water and contact on to number two had been upstream just a second ago. come back in the water use on her first visit has disappeared entirely and replaced by all new water. but something called the river is still there. and strangely it looks the same as though nothing has changed. it is a recruitment strategy. but why in the world? and it was always to the historian and 180. this is an ancient greek ship captain. you plan a one-year voyage to get rare and expensive commodities from the spanish colony, roughly 1164 miles away. because the voyage will be long, you take waterlogged and two but enough to pay for more lumber along the way. and you have been at sea for months one you become waterlogged, see replace him. then he put that on the deck on the sun to dry out. when they are nice and dry and toasty, you want to prove them. then he began to build a second shift. by the time you have been going a year, you're no longer going on ship. you are ceiling two of them. by now you have replaced every single one. the ship is built from what you had. when the two ships were turned in homework, which ship is the right one? which is the ship he set sail in payment every single one down of the original and the ship your crew has hunkered down in as a new place. it is new from stem to stern. get your crew has never stopped sleeping and eating in it. but the ship with only parts -- is that the original? or was it the one on the road behind you? which ship is the real deal when a. >> so it's the puzzle areas in fact, the puzzle of the ship is a recruitment strategy that has been kidnapping mines for 1900 years. recruitment strategies are everywhere you look. adam is a recruitment strategy. galaxy is a recruitment strategy. and nuclear shells within shells, fast-moving electrons and into zillions of different time and locations -- very much the same way an it manages to do the same thing wherever you look despite the fact that it is not communicating to make sure they are all there to defend choreography. then there is a galaxy. a galaxy conflicts its spiral arms on 10 billion stars or more. what's more, that imposes itself on masses of matter. why is that? because the pattern over 125 billion times in this universe. meanwhile, a star in his ball like shape, and tons of matter. it doesn't over and over again. and thousands of billions of separate locations simultaneously without communicating with other stars. your body, which replaces a billion cells a minute, is a recruitment strategy. your personality between 100 billion wares more intricate recruitment strategy. so you are likely. a weight is independent of the water that sucks and enforces out. so are you. today you wonton watercress salad, tomorrow you die on lasagna. instead, the process becomes you. yes, you are very much like a wave. every minute, every 60 seconds you say goodbye to more than a billion receptors that are replaced with new ones. you do the same with your blood red cells and your digestive tract that make up your skin. you are changing your plan. meanwhile, you constantly shift your mind from one obsession session to the other, yet you retain identity. something more puzzling and there is a shifting flicker of you. it will cease when you die. it does not reduce the astonishing ability to produce in which it is made. why call the thing is recruitment strategies, because they are of existence. it is driven. a wave of yellow light will repeat its corkscrew dance i've hundred 40 trillion times a second. always sticking with precision and frequency. a recruitment frequency does not matter. and it is nowhere. it is in no permanent location for a recruitment strategy shapes on the matter over and over again. in imposes its way of doing things with location after location. but if it is nowhere and no thing -- then what the heck is that? well, for 10 years, from 1821 until 1831 in berlin, there was a long and in concert incomprehensible book to be read. [inaudible] it was printed in 1905. okay. the central theme of the book was intriguing. it said that it was oscar becoming matter. does that sound spooky? superstitious? and religious. it certainly does not sound scientific. we can understand the cosmos based on placed on these things, but we have missed the capacity of your material things. we have missed the important of patterns and shapes forms of social organization and resilience of matter. forms of social matter what structures all their own. structures that sustain no matter what they contain. the secular mystery of a wave. a merry-go-round. you and i and the patterns and conditions bursting forth, and good mortality. we are here mythmakers and palace creators and we are multigenerational waves of culture. like science. no, we are not the first immaterial pattern in the material identity works their way out of the frozen galaxy. recruitment strategies are allied. they are equally allied. we are the repeaters of ancient patterns. repeaters who inspired and weaving tapestries. we are the tools for fantasy. yet we are only the foothills, only the starting block. now, remember the first two rules of science. look at things right under your nose as if you've never seen them before and then proceed from there. question your assumption. rules of radical re-perception. the first two rules of science are those of the morals. the moral of the story is the time for science to come to grapple with the mystery, including the mystery of recruitment strategy. so that is it. we want to leave you being puzzled over things. there are lots of puzzles and stories in the point of the puzzle is to is to make you repeat the re-perceive things we take for granted every minute. it is appalling. the metaphor doesn't belong in science. 2200 years ago, we have been repeating my parents without even questioning whether it's right or wrong. the metaphor doesn't have anything to do with science. such a metaphor. you will see the whole story how this got into the science in this book. the whole journey of writing this book surprised the heck out of me. okay, so that is it. that is the speech. you all did awards for valor and stick to it next. any questions? it should seem to you like it's not even science from he's just telling stories. >> i wanted to go back to the very beginning when you talk about this and that and i was reminded of the buddhist which philosophers have pointed to, the object negation. the negation of any label of any phenomena. >> it's very useful in your thinking. to go back to the beginning. to imagine how the world we got to this point in the first place. in this book, i wanted to write a quick couple of pages on the history of mathematics. so this is not easy. so i went back to look at the history and i saw a page that said, well, it first at first in mathematics, people in jericho invented this idea of piling stones together. then they build walls all around. so they invented the circle. then, 2000 years later, some people came up with a bizarre idea to take a substance called mud and he patted into rectangular bricks. no one had ever seen this before. so this is rectangular bricks. and you think what is a rectangle? were you talking about? so you think you can make a garden apartment complex and he says, what planet have you come from? the apartment -- the war department doesn't exist. we have caves and round dwellings believe made out of mammoth bones and tasks. so i was wednesday in the page that the people, by making these bricks into rectangular form, they made the first black flat walls. in the first right angles. it's simple. besides that, it would support everything that i have said the encyclopedia britannica, by what's his name -- oh, goodness, i always walk on his name, but the guy convinced me to be an atheist to begin with. bertrand russell. it was obvious. we already knew it. and then my next page wasn't about how the babylonians invented the 360-degree angle. how did i know that? because it was in the history of philosophy. it was everywhere. so i was about to write on and i thought oh, if eric is going to read this book, i want him to feel what it is like to be a babylonian. to feel what it's like to be a babylonian, i have to put that in your hands. and to make you feel what it's like to have this in your hands, i have to find out if that's made of clay or wood or copper. so for a month, i pursued the question of whether a protractor is made of clay or copper or wood. and i couldn't find it. somewhere in the back of my mind, this happens every day and you go, you amazing idiot, how could he you be so stupid, you are following up this obsession about this. get on with the book. you know you have to say. go write it. as you can literally go through hundreds and sometimes thousands of research in the day, after going through tens of thousands of sources, why was i not able to find a babylonian protester. because it does not exist. because they could not invent the 360-degree angle. they did not invent the angle at all. they had a 90-degree angle and off with your head. you know? it was made to all and impress and make everybody want to come to battle. and babylon is the epitome of everything in the world. and then you're 90-degree angle wasn't right and it won't work. so yes, they manage to make 90-degree angles, but they had no words for 90 degrees. they didn't even have a special name for a right angle. so you have to go back and refrain from scratch. so the best way to do science is to go back and imagine what it is like to be looking at the world around you. i can try and find out what it was. so every week i run a meeting and my friend don davis as they are and he says well, you know, you know, i'm talking about going into a field, look into the sky and see what you see. he couldn't tell me. well it turns out that the concept of a circle was a radical new invention and to change things. having it right under your nose does not give it as a module. [inaudible] to put it up in your brain and we have times of these things. after peter had been living with blabbering services for thousands of years. the big question is what is there right now that could be turned into my tool. of some kind. when we missing. what do we have in our concepts that we can't see beyond and not the tools with which we look at reality. people who don't have any of these concepts at all, all of a sudden this new vista opens up to you at ways to reopen up to things. the concept in here that abandons the sheer dependency on matter and looks at something that those of us don't look at. it is sometimes so bigger is that it has an identity and we will do just about anything to maintain that identity. and it is a solid and persistent thing and it's right under our nose. we look at it everyday. [inaudible] so how do we write about this in the process? i was doing my research like a madman and i was up in buffalo, new york. that's my hometown. we're finally at least my family wants me. that's a big change. i was up there for thanksgiving, and i realized that my work hours, which are until three in the morning, you can do that on your laptop and sometimes that is sometimes electricity and wifi. but i knew that there was a good chance the wifi may not be working. so i downloaded a book by aristotle. so i could read it on the laptop. sure enough, the wifi did not work. so here i am, the research indicated it might be something incorrect. and i am reading it at one or two in the morning. all of a sudden the entire program of modern science is laid out including the idea that works or doesn't work. so the point is if we get beyond those concepts, including things that make you created. we perverted concepts to reality and let's put the universe altogether. that's falling together, not apart. in the death of a star, the first-generation star -- it only has certain kind of atoms in it. hydrogen lithium and helium. they are crushed together in brand-new ways. new forms of atoms emerge. it is this moment where the universe is defined. the universe is creating. but if we step outside our logic, we can begin to get a hold of the logic. that is the essence of the book, anyway going back to something that we talked about before, what is your explanation for dark matter? >> okay, this is the big bang theory and i could explain it in three minutes. this came up in 1959 when i was working at the worlds largest cancer research facility and the big problem in 1958 wa in 1958 d the cdc problem. the charge parity and symmetry problem. that is this. matter or antimatter are made of equal amounts. why is it there so much matter in this universe and so little elsewhere. well, it took me a whole two and a half months with this. but imagine the universe is a bagel. you know, we have the little tiny holes, it barely exists. well, that's the kind of universe and bagel that our universe is involved in. what happens? well, there's a big bang. in the matter comes spurting from the bagel talk. imagine that. an equal amount. not a lot [inaudible] okay so -- well, i tossed it away, and then in 1980, the idea that coming out of the big bang, things move very fast. that is what it indicates. okay, who came up with the idea that things should move unaccountably sassaman slowdown? okay, you're stupid and you don't know it. theoretically. then 18 years later. there are many looking over the cosmos. they come to a conclusion that once galaxies move away from each other, in this expanding universe, once they get past a certain point, they began to accelerate like putting your foot all the way down on the accelerator. it is constantly increasing speed. okay, where does the energy come from? in order to understand something, i don't even have a concept for it, people talk about when you walk into your doctors office and you say, you know, have these pains in my stomach for the past five years. enter doctor says, don't worry about it. what he told you that you have a stomach ache. okay. so this is doing the same thing. in this case, they can't explain where the energy is coming from. so they come up with a name, dark matter. and it's a mystery for a little while. guess what has a prediction? so the galaxy starts flying at an ever increasing speed. it implies that the universe expands rapidly and then slows down. then it goes over the hump. what does that mean? what does that indicate? but your bagel show something else. nobody can explain for dark energy comes from. why this even exists. there could be a quantum theory, but i don't really know if some buy into that. in 2006, everything you know about quantum physics is wrong. then they look at it and send it back to me. .. if the universe is going going to and that all it will and at 100 trillion years. if the universe is going to and it's right around the corner so pack your bags now because it's 1.68 billion years approximately. depending on how you do the math. it's approximately 1.68 billion years away. oh my god, the years going to and the day after the mayan calendar and. a relatively trivial amount. this is a theory that explains dark energy and willoughby accepted by the science community? we will see. i told you that eric bush evolved who is one of the leading cosmologist is about the god problem that is thoroughly rigorous and thoroughly mathematical despite the fact that james burke the guy behind the connection series on pbs says that its most thrilling cliffhanger of a book he can never remember reading so i went for the cliffhanger element but i also just as the maraschino on the cake gave you "the big bang theory" and i told you you can be attacked very heavily for putting something like that in a book. but it's been welcomed. it's been welcomed. what's his name, w. hirschbeck 1986 nobel prize in physics says the book is absolutely amazing and fascinating so nobody is going to believe your theory by itself. i told you that buzz aldrin introduced me to tysons soon neal returns my e-mails and neal sent me a lovely little -- saying i make a policy of not commenting on new theories. because it's dangerous. to go out on a limb with one of these things? eric who i just met tonight was one of the members of the audience, so we have never met before but he has the specific interest in alternative cosmology and you read the alternative cosmologicosmologi s all of which support in some way the big bagel theory. of course it's my book and i get to write it that way. [laughter] any other questions? there has got to be a question. dave, put the question. >> i am not really a scientific person but i am a well rounded guy. >> what an allusion, oh my god. >> if you are believe in god or some sort of higher power, how do you explain your positive outlook on life? >> look, if there were a god einstein had talked about spinoza's god if there were god it would be the creative force in the cosmos. it would be the very thing that i'm seeking. if there were god, a look at the universe. it's a glorious place. it's an astonishing place filled with wonders but it's also filled with nightmares. to people in syria really deserve to have their entire homes destroyed in be put out on the street and wonder if they will be hit by sniper a sniper's bullet at any second? not one bit. so it's our job to clean up the mess. it's our job to straighten a place out. we are the first collectivities of protons, the protons that make you and me up 13.72 billion years old. they have been around for a long time. we are the first social project those protons have ever put together that have a conscience and they can look at these things and say this is not right. this is not just. this is not warm and compassionate and loving which means we are the first creatures capable of doing anything we can, the phrase it out green the soul singer gave me while he was driving me around memphis and showing me the local vatican which was elvis's mansion, anything you can conceive and believe you can achieve. well, it's true and it's our obligation to dream these things, to dream of a more just, kind and loving cosmos and to make it happen. if that is our job, if there were goda god, we are in. if there is a god we are in. one way or the other the responsibility lands on us. >> how do you go from -- how do you go from nothing to patterns? it's a big jump. >> that's a big jump. for one thing the universe is good at big jumps. if you go to 380,000 years after the big bang approximately 300,000 to 380,000 years, you have this cosmos that has been a plasma. what is a plasma? you are a particle, you are a proton. we come at each other like racing cars going at each other head-on and then we bounce off. the problem is it's a very crowded cosmos of the minute you bounce off of me and it's like the shock of your life, you bounce off of eric. you are bouncing around all over the place and despite the fact that it is this cosmic smashup, this cosmic bumping car experience, these pro-towns, you and me are already organizing themselves in grand patterns. we are already making waves in those ways go from one end of the universe to the other. they go from one end of the universe to the other in magnitude and they travel across the universe and astrophysicist who have discovered it have called it musical. they saved the universe rang like a gong. it's a structure emerging from the most structural kind of chaos you can possibly imagine and then at 380,000 add after the big day and, you are sitting at our coffee table at the edge of the universe and you being a visionary saying i predict things are going to slow down any minute now. and i go, yeah sure. i have been watching this smashup for 80,000 years and i know the universe by now. it's all smash and bash and then you make another living prediction. see those things that are relatively speaking the size of your fist? you see those things over there that are relatively speaking the size of the empire state-building? those are proton smashing into each other. that's all they do. you say well when things slow down, those little things are going to develop into an animate things in the big things are going to develop an inanimate longing to and the inanimate longing of the thing the size of the empire state-building are going to precisely fit the inanimate longing of the things the size of your fist no matter what part of this universe you talk to those little things and big things from. and is more precise than any german engineer has ever come up with and i know you have lost it. too many years of watching smashup's will finally boggle your brain. all of a sudden things slow down and when things slow down, what happens? the little things the size of your fist in the big things the size of the empire state-building get-together in a harmony that's just astonishing, a perfect fit. new patterns emerge instantly. the electrons don't fall all the way into the proton and disappear. instead, they hover in a shell around the proton. where does the shape of that shall come from. how did it come to be? the smash and the smash. i know the universe, i had seen it. smash bash and that's it, chaos. you have got to be crazy. you are right, i am wrong. so the emergent patterns come popping out of this cosmos and we haven't taken a good look at why. in fact, two guys were sitting around in 1835 covering this new stuff called chemistry and they were pondering the fact that 50 years earlier these two gases had been derived and if you have one gas in the bell jar it was perfectly transparent, and another bell jar with another guest perfectly transparent. aristotle to come up with an idea in those two pages of his posterior analytics. his idea was to bring everything down to its element and then discover the laws of ailments which he called an intention. this is not a natural phrase. elementary laws, the loss of ailments. understand the laws of ailments and you will understand the whole thing. the big picture. let's do a little exercise here. we understand the laws of the gas. take the two gases and you get one bell jar twice as large with the two gases and it. to bell jars of gas. what do you get? to bell jars size thing of gas, right? that's it. let's add a little heat. what should we get? heat plus two gases and we understand what he does then we understand the two gases are. all we have to do is understand the laws of each element and we understand everything. we should get a slightly heated gas. strike a match. put it and that to bell jar sized and what do you get? an explosion. an explosion? that's not predicted in the elementary laws. and this weird substance. it's so weird you can touch it just like his tabletop. you can touch about your finger goes through it like he goes through the gas and if it spills off the table and spills you won't want to walk around for 15 or 20 minutes until it dries off. so it's liquid. it's really bizarre. is water. it's really bizarre. these two guys are sitting around thinking about this and one of them, jon stewart mill, says this is outside the bounds of the kind of science we are doing today and it's not predictable by our mathematics. this is 1835. let's come up at least with a name for this weird concept. let's call it header graphic colonization. that name takes off like crazy and it becomes a crazing kids put on their lunch boxes. you know the phrase every day. and his friend george henry luce who ends up in the scandal of the century with george elliott. it's all in the book by the way. he said well why don't we call it emergence? the phrase emergence becomes the basis of several scientific laws in the early 19th and 20th century, it really takes off. paul jamie's, the physicist and mathematician at the university of arizona is pushing it like crazy and he has every reason to. emergences where the real mystery lies. emergences where they answer cosmic creativity. why? the skies 177 years ago said the science can deal with it and math can't comprehend it at all. that is 177 years ago. would have begun to advance math since then? will we have, and it's in the book. [laughter] >> without waiting another 6 billion years, what could -- the bagel ferry, how would you challenge yourself for a conclusion? >> is such a good question that i get it all the time and i haven't come up with an answer yet. i simply haven't come up with an answer. 1.6 billion years i have a prediction i have protections that a party come through but they were implicit predictions. in a sense that is the greatest advantage he can have that they are applied in the very shape of a bagel but those things the party happened. we need another prediction and that's the question i get from people. it's going to take a while. you know that my history is that i grew up in science and i was this little scientific nerd in microbiology, fascinated with the mass passings of historical events. instead of accepting for grad school scholarships, want to find out about those mass defense. i found it the biggest pr in the music industry and worked with michael jackson and prince and bob marley