Interdisplin interdisciplinary. But the main differences i would make would be to require or recommend courses in the second year, to some degree in the third year such that the schools curriculum reflects a sense of what all lawyers should know and need to know. I would not depend on the school to fully train lawyers. Thats a popular recommendation these days. I think it is i think it is not well advised. I dont think its what law schools can covery well right now. If we refashion law schools to do that, we will be giving an awful lot that is of value. I think it is a Great Service to the country and to future clients that we aim to agent lawyers and not simply train them. What is your solution to too many lawyers . As you said. Well, quit admitting so many law students. Its an obvious solution taking a long time to get there. They are shrinking. I havent looked at the numbers. Its over half of law schools took in fewer students than the prior year. And so that will address the problem over time. It may be that some schools will close. No school to date has closed but that might be in the future. But whether or not that is the case, the law schools that remain for the most part, have to start take in fewer students. We cant keep graduating students knowing a healthy percentage are not going to be able to find jobs as lawyers. Thats the economic challenge facing law schools is figuring out how to cover the costs with less revenue. By fewer students does it mean a core of lawyers . I dont think should. As you may know, other reformers have suggested splitting the Legal Academy in to two discreet kind of law school. No need for a library. No scholarship, et. Cetera. That would create a very cleanly profession of the lawyers on the one hand and everybody else on the other. I think it would be very unfortunate. It would be sad. Theres no need for that. One of the virtues, i think, is a unified profession. All lawyers by virtue of sharing in this common experience of the Legal Education have an awful lot in common with each other. That makes the Legal Profession i. T. I think somewhat democratic. I think it contributes those to our democracy. We stro shrink and bring the tuition down. We have to bring the cost down. That will counter the trend toward elite profession and profession too heavily tilted toward the wealthy. Can you describe your sub tight . The book takes on the three topics and three substantiative chapters. In one chapter, i argue that law schools have failed their students and facilitated the society by not centering on justice. Politics, like wise, for various reasons law schools and law faculty have neglected to study the what i call the political root of law. We study law as though it just sort of sprang from mushrooms or whatever. Law is act as product of politics. And so i think we can study politics by not studying it i think we contribute to the american tendency to denigrate politics. We tend to think, i think we tend teach that law is the domain of the rational and the principle and the thoughtful while politics is domain of the emotional and the sentimental and the meanspirited, et. Cetera. For not paying much attention to the Legal Profession and not paying much attention to the professional needs of the students the future graduates. On the other hand, the Legal Academy, i think, not being sufficiently critical of the Legal Profession. We cant respond to the first problem of inattention by simply servicing the needs in the profession. There should be a distance between the Legal Profession and the needs and the Legal Academy and the goals and ideals. And this is booktv on cspan2. Weve been talking with georgetown law professor robin west. Teaching law justice, politics and the demands of professionalism is her book. Visit booktv. Org to watch any of the programs you see here online. Type the author or the book title on the search bar on the upper lefthand side. You can share anything you see on booktv. Org easily by clicking share on the upper left sides of the page. The war of 1812. The author details the origin of the war, the principle players, and the battles that marked americas second war for independence inspect is about an hour 15. [applause] can you hear me okay . Thank you. Ive had the pleasure of speaking at the library many times over the years for various books of mine. Also booktv and cspan here before. Also thanks to booktv and cspan for covering this. Ive had the pleasure of doing a few dozen programs with booktv cspan or American History tv. Im a fan how many do we have in the audience . Okay. Everyone. Me too i love it. Thank you. Thank you for coming out. And a Beautiful Day here in Palm Beach County. When you hear theyre giving a lecture or announce youre giving a talk on the war of 1812 you worry if anyone will show up. [laughter] except those needing to sleep issue right . Palm beach county is filled with more historians per capita than any place. Thank you i cant believe we have a wonderful and large audience. At the end of the remarks, hopefully youll learn something. I had punch line has been most americans dont know when the war started. [laughter] no one knows anything about it. Hopefully youll share some of my views that the war of 1812, in my opinion was one of the most disagreeing wars. Intriguing. In the year 1814 was possibly the most important year in American History. Im going try to make aningment for that. Im turn the mic off and happy to stay. All right. The war of 1812. What a bizarre affair. Its a war named for one year fought for two and a half years. We continue call world war ii 1941. [laughter] we dont call the civil war the war of 1861 but the war of 1812. Folks that supported it and feel it was a positive thing called it americas second war for independence. I think it was that. The detractors call it an unnecessary war. I think it was utterly completely unnecessary. And thankfully we havent had an unnecessary war since then; right . [laughter] i call it the unknown war. My favorite president was characteristically blunt of the war l 1812 truman called it the silliest damn war we ever thought. I think it was that too. I think it was that too. It was a war that had we won, canada would be a state. And possibly we would had a huge slave colony in mexico maybe even cuba. Had we lost the war of 1812, we would become once again, a colony of britain. But after all that fighting and loss of lives, it was, in the end, a costly and complicated time. It was a war that was fought from the great lakes down to the gulf coast. It was a wide land and worldwide naval and economic campaign. The fascinating, fascinating war. In the end, when the peace treaty was signed, the reasons why we had the war were not even a part of the peace treaty. Some. Causes of the war were no longer apparent when we sign the declaration to go to war. How did we get in the war of 1812 . There are a lot of causes. For brevity i list three. Number one, impressment. Impressment . Good. We used to teach history once a upon a time. What it was the british would simply pull over, stop, an american her merchant ship and press our sailors in to service. They could go aboard and take them off and say welcome to his majestys. Why did they do this . A couple reasons. One was this. Britain was at war with nap poll began. This was a continental wide war. It was total war. That napoleon was hell bent on dmom nateing. Dominating. The british thought it was an act of war. While france possibly had the Strongest Army of land, easily britain was the mistress of the seas; right in the british navy was the masters of the oceans. Here is one of the ideas that britain had. Britain felt that one of the ways it would win the war was to blockade every port in europe. Imagine how ambition. And blockade port in the caribbean and north america. Therefore they deny the french navy the ability to resupply the army. The ability to move the army men and weapons. The inability to export and therefore raise the money to fund the war and inability to import items resources which they needed to fight the war. It would be equivalent to a strangle hold. They launched a huge blockade. Now if so you a massive blockade. You need a lot of ships. Britain wanted 1,000 ships in the navy. Can you imagine a number . Can can data becomes important. Iengland is relatively small, crowded resourcepoor island compared to canada. Can canadas endless forest it becomes important and bring along the fight for canada. What they do and close up shop there would be six guy passed out drudge. They load them in wagon. The guys wake out the next day with a cold bucket of salt water in the face and someone say welcome to the navy. Prison population were sold. Britain didnt have enough sailors. They stopped american ships. New england fishermen, new england sailors were some of the best in the world. Americans we were angered and upset. So many british sailors would entrepreneur ship and join our navy or merchant fleet or be an american. Brutally hardies plin. Long tour of duty. Short life expectancies not much pay. Er work for an american, good pay, short tour of duty, lax condition. Take your money and pick up a shovel and know youre an american and youre on. One sitincident happened and we came this close to having the war of 1807. Here is what happened. Three britain sailors jumped ship. They came to the u. S. And not only did nay jump ship but appears they stole the captains row boat. The captain wanted the boat and ship back. Rumor was they went to work on board the ship the uss chesapeake. The british ship is laying anchor waiting for them to come out of harbor. Theres another british warship called hms leopard. Prowling the oceans. The leopard. And this warship is waiting for a ship. When the chesapeake comes out of port, it deck is filled with supplies and water and gun port doors are closed. With roll it out and fire it. And headed all the way to the coast to fight the pie rots. Were still fighting pirates years later. The british open fire. When we bring peace. They severely damaged the ship ruined and killed many men on the ship. Then they board our ship and take the suspected brits and press them to service. Can you imagine when the chesapeake limp back to port damaged. Attacked by unprovoked with men taken off the deck of the ship. We wanted war. Made a deal if the indians stop attack the sellers on the western frontier we wont most west of the appalachian. We honored that treaty, didnt we, and all the rest. By tacking on the west it would be pit burg, roanoke, and cleveland was the hinterlands. Was a the deal. The beginning for of the end for the American Indian. Jefferson buys indiana for the Louisiana Purchase which is coble the size of the country. Even today a third of the land mass. The late 1790 theres a blood bath on the frontier of white settlers mass occurring men, women, and children. And the american State Government rightly concerned about this. So they dispatch a tough revolution their guy. Perfect nickname. He goes with vastly superior forces in america. Chief little turtle, we believe had about 1,000 warriors which was a huge army at the time. We had maybe 2,650 regulars plus maybe 1,000 volunteers. Fighting for their homeland. Rather than attack a conventional way we would likely suffer huge casualty. William Henry Harrison said why dont we charge with everything we have up the gun. Hitler would called a blitzkrieg against poll land. Everything at once. We do ten and they were tough and undisciplined. The line broke and we destroy them. Thats the end of the indian uprising. The lesson is not lost on william Henry Harrison. Its not lost on some indians including a young future chief. More on him in a moment. After the battle so named because apparently theres a tornado that knocked over the trees. That marges the beginning a few years later he emerging as greatly the American Indian leader. I think hes one of the great truly military leaders. Hes a big, handsome, brave, smart leader. A natural leader of men. Hes going to unit indians in a grand confederation. He recruits from the great lakes to the gulf. Along the mississippi for what . Good luck with that. American indian nations have different languages. Hundreds and hundreds of years of how is he going to do this . Succeeding through his charisma and vision. Hes amassing the battle of Fallen Timbers in present day ohio. Now hes in indiana. Back then that area was called indian territory. Getting ready for a huge war. Around the same time this is happening, throughout the latter, our government assigns the governor of indiana william Henry Harrison to deal with them the way he helped deal with chief little turtle. Harrison has an idea, i think it is an idea george w. Bush had preeveryonive war. He amasses a large army and marches for the cop federation headquarter in a town called profitstown. A couple bizarre things happened. Right around the time hes ready to launch his battle he said i need to recruit another group of warriors. The red sticks. Which were in present day alabama. Part of the creek nation. The red sticks were ferocious. They bring them back and start the war. Around the time they does that they march the army. And he camps just outside profitstown after of the creek. When he leaves he left profitstown in the charge of his younger brother, the benefit. The holly man. The shaman. The mystical leader for the confederation. Im sure he said to prophet the first time we let them home alone without a baby sitter. Dont do anything dumb. Dont do anything until i get back; right . The prophet was probably a drunk and snake oil salesman. He had no status in his vlgt village and tribe until one day he had a massive seizure. I dont know if it was epilepsy or good acting. He announces hes returned to life and spoke to the great chief in the sky. And now hes filled with magical powers. He heard from his brother there was an ellipse about to occur. So he announces that he will bring the heavens together in an ellipse. It happens so he has great magic. Great power inspect helps to bring more india nations to prophettown. He puts him in charge. Im sure he said dont do anything dumb until i return. He leaves to get the red stick. Right as he leaves here comes william harrison. He has a great party. A huge party. Drinking alcohol, smoking spirits, having a massive party. The prophet announces he has another seizure and talked to the chief in the sky and has additional powers. Hes got the power to make all the warriors invisible. I imagine like this. All right. To make them invisible and. And in the middle of the night, in a drunken, stoned party stupor, without planning, the prophet charges. As theyre killing one of the century hay manage to get off the shot. William Henry Harrisons army line up and its like shooting fish in a barrel inspect a matter of minutes, an hour the grand Indian Confederation is destroyed. Done. The prophet lives through the ordeal and goes back to prophetstown and any warriors that live through the ordeal know that the prophets magic is weak. They leave and go back to the triable homes. Majt a scene of devastation. The day after he defeats is 11 defeats the prophet at the battle his army chanchs in marches in and burn it is to the ground. They did everything but salt the earth years of hard work. About to achieve the unachievable and unit all indians against us. Our history was this close to be radically different. I believe the end of selfdetermination gets another blow in 1813 when tecumseh is killed. For two decades he had been fighting with william Henry Harrison. Addison would invite indian chiefs and get them out call and cut a deal and swindle them out of their land that not tecumseh. Tecumseh says now no one indian can give away our lands. The great chief gave it to all of his children. We will have war so harrison and tecumseh have been locking horns for two decades. Tecumseh dies in the battle of thames as in the river just across the border in canada. The british with maybe 800 tecumseh and some warriors are on the run. William Henry Harrison is pursuing them with an army that numbers five to 6000. The army is catching the british. Tecumseh falls to the rear. By the time they reach the town the town of thames is apparent that harrison will catch the british and annihilate them. The british lineup with the canadians and tecumseh with one last stand in air as an opens up with every thingy he can. The british either run or their general runs and fleas are they lay their guns down and surrender but tecumseh is going to stand his ground. He stands his ground and is killed. For two decades tecumseh had locked horns with harrison and cursed william Henry Harrison. Its that tecumseh cursed harrison when he was killed. He said harrison will die at the height of his power and every american leader to decades, every two decades thereafter every american leader will die. You have all heard of montezumas revenge which is pretty bad but tecumsehs curse is even worse. Are you ready for this . William Henry Harrison is elected in 1840 or first president. He gets elected based on a little song. Tippecanoe and tyler too. He was old tippecanoe and the hero of the battle and tyler was john tyler of virginia the Vice President. Now in 1840 tippecanoe gets elected and they make tippecanoe they make harrison and i know this is surprising to all is surprising quality to all of you but campaign gurus can make candidates out to be better than they are. Work with me, right . They make him out to be half george washington, half Andrew Jackson, someone who would be drinking spirits with one hand and fighting bears with the other hand. Hes almost like a Davy Crockett sans king of the wild frontier. The country is duped by this and they reelect william Henry Harrison. When harrison shows up or is not grow hes a small frail older sick guy and the country is in remorse. He has a very cold inaugural day but he wants to sho