Another like crowd today. Good afternoon. Before we get started i would like to bring up Homeland Security advisor tom bossert to tell you about executive order on Cyber Security at the president just signed. He will take a few of your questions and respectfully i ask that you keep your questions for him on the topic of the executive orders. Dont worry, i will come back and answer the rest of your pressing questions when he wraps up. With that i will turn it over to tom. Tom bossert thank you. Thank you very much for your time. A couple things positive to report. The first is that President Trump about an hour ago signed an executive order on Cyber Security. That executive order is going to keep his promise that he has made to the American People to keep americans safe. Including in cyberspace. I would like to do a few things. I promise we will district distribute the executive order. I will preview it for you, walk you through it and then take your questions. Among other things, at least as an observation for me i think , the trend going in the wrong direction in cyberspace. It is time to stop that transfer trend and reverse it on behalf of the American People. We have seen increasing attacks from allies, adversaries, primarily nationstates and not nation state actors. Sitting by and doing nothing is no longer an option. President trumps actions today is a very heartening one. There are three sections. They are in priority order. The First Priority for the president and for our federal government is protecting our federal networks. I think its important to start by explaining we operate those federal networks on behalf of the people, and they often contain the American Peoples information and data. Not defending them is no longer an option. We have seen past efforts that have succeeded and we need to do everything we can to prevent that from happening in the future. A few things on federal networks. We have practiced one thing and preached another. It is time for us, and the president has directed his departments and agencies to implement the framework. A Risk Reduction framework. It is something we have asked the private sector to implement and not force upon ourselves. From this point forward departments and agencies shall practice what we preach and implement that framework for Risk Management and Risk Reduction. Second, of note point, protecting federal networks, we spent a lot of times and inordinate money protecting antiquated and outdated systems. We saw that with the opm packed hack and other things. The president has issued a preference from today forward in federal procurement of federal i. T. For federal services to protect ourselves instead of fracturing our security posture. Third point i would make is the executive order directs all departments and agency heads to continue its key role, but also centralizes risk. We view federal i. T. As one Enterprise Network. If we dont do so, we will not be able to adequate understand that adequately understand what risks exist and how to mitigate it. A number of thoughts on that. Among other things that will be a very difficult task. Modernizing is imperative for our security, but modernizing is going to require a lot of deference. The president s American Technology council will run it on behalf of the president in the white house. We have great hope there will be efficiencies but also security. I will note other countries have taken two or three years to learn we had in two or three months. You cant promote innovation without first thinking through Risk Reduction. Doing that together is the message we have learned. Doing it together is a message we would like to encourage private sector folks to adopt. Point number two in the executive order, the president directed the cabinet to begin the hard work of protecting our nations most critical infrastructure. Utilities, financial and Health Care Systems, telecommunications networks. He directed them to identify additional measures to defend critical structure. And promote the message that doing nothing is no longer an option. And not only requires the departments and agencies to help those critical infrastructures, but to do it in a productive since. Sense. A towards action. We have seen bipartisan studies and observations over the last eight years. Both parties have made powerful recommendations. They have not been adopted for various reasons. This executive order adopts the best and brightest of those recommendations in my view. I will stop with those three and take questions. Actually, if i could brian, go ahead. Reporter was the russian hack in any way responsible or and if it is for this . I talked i. T. People who say putting stuff on the cloud can be problematic as far as security. What additional security measures will you apply to the cloud to make sure it is not as risky as some of the i. T. People tell us it would be . Mr. Bossert let me say three things. The third section of the executive order speaks to two halves. Its base to not only the need to develop the norms and interoperable open to medication system that is the internet. United states invented the internet and is time to maintain our values on it. It speaks to a deterrent policy is long overdue. The russians are not only adversary on the internet. The russians are not the only people that operate in a negative way on the internet. The russians, the chinese, the iranians are motivated to you cyber capacity and cyber tools to attack our people and their government and their data. That is something we can no longer abide. We need to establish the rules of the road and determined those that do not want to abide by those rules. The answer to your first question is no, it was not a russian motivated issue. It was the United States of america motivated issue. Reporter and the cloud . Mr. Bossert we dont move to shared services, we have 190 agencies all trying to develop protection and collection efforts. I dont think thats a wise approach. There will always be risk. The question is are we still at risk . Yes. Im not here to promote the year of the president has signed a second order and create a cyber secure world in fortress usa. That is not the answer. But if we dont have shared services, we will behind the eight ball for a long time. Thank you. Reporter sitting around doing nothing. Is it your contention that that was the Obama Administrations a approached the Cyber Security sitting around doing nothing . , you talked about one Enterprise Network. Does that mean every system throughout the federal government under this executive order, the ambition is to make them all the same and protect them in the same way . Mr. Bossert no. I will answer those in reverse order. We need to view the federal government as an enterprise as , opposed to just reviewing each department and agency as its own enterprise. The department of Homeland Security and secretary kelly will play a large role in this effort and lamenting the second executive order. The Enterprise Network covers 340,000 employees and the contractors and so forth. They are responsible and the secretary of each agency will remain responsible for securing those networks. We need to look of the federal government as an enterprise as well so we no longer look at the opm and said he can defend the network but the money commiserate for the opm responsibility. Opm is the crown jewel of our information on all of our background and security clearances. What we would like to look at that and save the highrisk, bear t for us to bare. Maybe we should look at this is an enterprising put collectively more information to protect them than other was put into opm looking at the relative importance. Not just their budget is based webbased on what they do. Not just their budget but based on what they do. Each department and agency has a responsibility to protect their networks, but now they identify the rest of the president so we can look at what they have done and what risk they know they are accepting but not not mitigating. Theres a lot of identified risk, but not a lot of identified with on remediated risk. We have seen other countries, israel, adopt a centralized view of Risk Management and acceptance. The second question reporter was that the previous administrations approach from your Vantage Point . Mr. Bossert i think the observation is we have not done the basic block and tackling. Right . Thinking of the internet is something the American People benefit from. What weve done is focus on the federal i. T. Portion. I think a lot of progress has been made in the last administration but not nearly enough. I think we will change that. Looking at this from the perspective of a deterrent strategy, yes, they should have done that and had an obligation to do it and did not. Reporter i wonder if the administration might know what constitutes an act of war . Mr. Bossert there is a lot we will talk about with what constitutes a cyber attack and what is war and not. I think the most important answer is we are not going to draw a red line in cyber war at this point today. That is not in the direct scope of the executive order. It would violate the president s primary mission to not telegraph our punches. If somebody does something that we cannot tolerate we will act. , reporter the goal is to secure the internet as something americans use and enjoy. The technical standards for most things on the internet are put together by Many International standards organizations and engineers and things like that it often are not in the United States. Has it been any talk of outreach to these sorts of bodies try to build in security for the next generation of protocols . Mr. Bossert absolutely. The message is not just protecting the people of america. We have an America First perspective, but the idea of having likeminded people with similar viewpoints like our allies developing with us the open operable internet is something key to figuring out how we will define what is and is not acceptable. Cut off the internet at our borders and expected to operate in a viable way. If they are good ideas that are germany, we will take them. If there are good ideas on a few peoria, we will take is as well. Reporter will there be tech leaders coming here . There are reports the president had a few phone calls with someone like Mark Zuckerberg. Should we expect to see some of someone like Mark Zuckerberg working closely with administration when it comes to that counsel . Mr. Bossert instead of telling you who the president did in not talk to there is a lot to be , learned from private industry. That stuff needs to come into the white house in an appropriate way. We talked on a regular basis to leaders, some that are technical leaders and some that are business leaders. My point of calling out the American Technology council is to point out they will have a leadership role in modernizing federal i. T. That has a lot of reasons. These are the cost savings that are beyond just security. The executive order speaks to the security component of it. I would directly to the American Technology council and their efforts to think about those other efficiencies. As an example, weve heard numbers that suggest the federal government spends upwards of 40,000 per employee on their i. T. Service costs. That is so out of line with the private industry that secretary have a hard time believing they are making a lot of money off of a company that poorly invested their dollars. You will see innovation come from those leaders. Then in terms of what will you see, i dont know how to answer that specifically. I would like to take the opportunity before sarah pulls me to thank two or three people. One is mayor giuliani. I would like to thank him for the vice given to me and the president and others as we formulate this thinking. I would like to thank representative mccaul and a few other members of congress. Senator nunez, collins, senator mccain in particular. Senator burr. There are a number of people that provided thought leadership and it taken action to pass legislation all the things that , improved our Cyber Security in the last eight years. I dont want to be critical of things that happened in the last eight years, but i look forward to improvement. Reporter a former Obama Administration official who dealt with other countries and other entities in other countries said there were tens of thousands of attempts to hack into Government Systems daily. Can you quantify that, confirm or deny that . Mr. Bossert no. The answer is we see that happen and within we then start getting into a numbers game. What i think would be a better argument, not the cut off the question, it is a reasonable but one, the better answer is for us to figure out how to provide a better collective sense of defense of federal i. T. Networks and data we operate. If we do it based on an individual attack basis, we are probably looking at it in the wrong way. Reporter where the correct when they said entities from around the world . Mr. Bossert without numbers, the trendline is going in the wrong direction. We see additional attacks additional numbers, additional , volume and occasionally additional successes that trouble us. Thats how i can quantify that for you today. You are welcome. Thank you. Reporter can you say why the cybersecurity order was delayed . This was going to come out one day early in the administration. There has been a lot of talk about concern from Silicon Valley and tech leaders with the direction it was going. Do you have some sense of the kind of support this order has or not from the tech world . Mr. Bossert i will answer and reject part of your question. I think it will be clarifying. First of all, i reject some part of your question. We did see some concerns, but i dont think they remain. I look forward to their response after they read the president s executive order today. One concern arose when they read the voluntary call from the president s order, which reduces greatly the number of bot attacks in the United States, and reduce the number of denial of service attacks. That will require a lot of cooperation between owners of privately held companies. From Service Providers to manufacturers of goods. Those things are going to have to happen voluntarily. What the president calls for is that for the government to the basis provide the basis for the coordination without defining who is in and who is out. Its a voluntary operation. We have have the technical capacity to come together on behalf of the American Public. The president was them to do that. Hes asking for the secretary of home insecurity and secretary of commerce to facilitate that. What we thought we saw was reflections of a concern that there would be a compulsion. I think that is something i can put to rest today. But if i could, the broader question of delay. I dont take that either. I think we having criticized for doing things too quickly in our being criticized for doing things too slowly. Maybe im right in the middle of the sweet spot, but the president has hit the timing perfectly and i will tell you why. One of the block and tackle things was get the money right. He has picked a cabinet full of know Business Operations and business functions if you dont the right money and back off the infrastructure to implement those things, you have to change your vision or change your amount of money. I thought you might ask that question. The first a predictably answered. We dont take innovate on the policy innovation side and the policy Security Side without doing that in tandem. He saw the president sign on friday the Technology Council any sign today the Cyber Security order. Lastly, in between now and then the president s fy 18 budget allocated 219 million. An increase of 1. 5 billion across all environments departments involved in cyberspace. Both his first budget request in his future ones the right size and align that amount of money to keep america safe. That might answer all three components of your question. Sarah wants to pull me away so you for your time. I appreciate it. Reporter you mentioned facebook, they are very political. Sanders he will be happy to come back to questions later even later. He was wrong about one thing. I wouldve gladly let him stay up here and talk about Society Security Cyber Security. A few announcements and as promised it will get to all of your many pressing questions. I would like to announce the president also just signed another executive order establishing a bipartisan president ial Advisory Commission on election integrity. This will be chaired by Vice President mike pence. The president is committed to the thorough review of registration and voting issues in federal elections. That is exactly what this commission is tasked with doing. The Bipartisan Commission will be made up around a dozen members, including current and former secretaries of state with kansas secretary of state chris coop serving as ice chair. That will include individuals with knowledge and experience in elections, election management Election Fraud detection and , voter integrity efforts. Five additional members that have been announced as of today, connie lawson, secretary of state of indiana, bill gardner, secretary of state or new hampshire, matthew dunlap, secretary of state of maine, kim blackwell, former secretary of state of ohio and christie mccormick. Reviewmission will policies that enhance or undermine the American Peoples confidence in the integrity of federal elections ever by the president with a report that identifies system vulnerabilities that will lead to improper registration and voting. We expect the report will be complete by 2018. The experts and officials on the commission will follow the facts where they lead meetings and , hearings will be open to the public for comments and input, and we will share updates as we have them. In cabinet news, secretary perdue is in cincinnati to announce the agriculture departments plan for reorganizing to provide Better Service to the American People as the president directed in his march 13 executive order. With the barges of the ohio river behind him, many with many containing roddick several beginning a journey that will ultimately take them to markets overseas, secretary perdue will announce a new mission area for trade and foreign agriculture affairs, recognizing the growing importance of International Trade to the Agriculture Sector of the economy. The United States immigration and Customs Enforcement will hold a press conference at 2 15 today. Probably not too far away. To announce the result of a highly successful recent gang search operation. The president has made enforcement of our nations immigration laws a top priority, and todays announcement will underscore not only that commitment but his focus on targeting transnational gangs and prioritizing the removal of criminal aliens who pose a threat to public safety. Also today, secretary mattis met with the turkish Prime Minister in london to discuss a range of bilateral security issues, and as secretary reiterated the United Statess commitment to provide tecting our nato allies affirmed theers need for stability and peace in iraq and syria. One other thing i want to point out. Last night obamacare suffered another serious blow. They announced the decision to pull out the nebraska and delaware marketplaces which it ends their participation in exchanges completely. Theyve sustained hundreds of millions of dollars over the last several years and is projected to lose more than 200 million in 2017. The company attributes those losses to structural issues within the exchanges, quote, that have led to coop failures and carrier exits and subsequent risk pool deterioration. This latest news adds to the mountain of evidence that obamacare has completely failed the American People and reinforces why there is no time to waste in repealing and replacing this law before it takes our entire Health Care System down with it. Finally, i know hold those hands. I know we sent out a timeline regarding the firing of director comey yesterday because there seemed to be some misperceptions about the meeting between the president and the attorney general and the Deputy Attorney general on monday. But im going to read it to you all again just to make sure were all on the same page because i want the sequence of events to be perfectly clear to everyone. The president over the last several months lost confidence in director comey. After watching director comeys testimony last wednesday, the president was strongly inclined to remove him. On monday, the president met with the attorney general and the Deputy Attorney general and they discussed reasons for removing the director. The next day, tuesday, may 9, the Deputy Attorney general sent his written recommendation to the attorney general and the attorney general sent his written recommendation to the president. Hopefully that clears up some of those things. And with that i will take your questions. Reporter sarah, why did the lester holt interview the president had made a number of remarks, why did the president think that james comey was a showboater and a grandstander . Sarah i think based on the numerous appearances he made and i think its probably pretty evident in his behavior over the last year or so with the back and forth and i think that it speaks pretty clearly. Those words dont leave a lot of room for interpretation, so i think its pretty clear what he meant. Reporter when were these three conversations that the president had with james comey whether he was under investigation or not . He said one was at dinner, two phone calls. Was that since january 20 or when . Sarah i dont have the exact dates on when those phone calls took date. Jonathan . Reporter two parts of the comey question regarding the interview the president just gave. First of all, isnt it inappropriate for the president of the United States to ask the f. B. I. Director directly if hes under investigation . Sarah no, i dont believe it is. Reporter one of the conversations the president said happened at a dinner where the f. B. I. Director was asking to stay on as f. B. I. Director. Dont you see how thats a conflict of interest . The f. B. I. Director saying he wants to keep his job and the president is asking whether or not hes under investigation . Sarah i dont see that as a conflict of interest and neither do the many legal scholars and others that have been commenting on it for the last hour. So, no, i dont see that as an issue. Reporter sarah, the other thing i want to ask you is, i asked you directly yesterday related to comey i asked you directly yesterday, the president already decided to fire james comey when he met with the Deputy Attorney general and attorney general. And you said no. Also, the Vice President of the United States said directly to the president acted to take the recommendation of the Deputy Attorney general to remove the fbi director. Sean spicer said its all him, meaning the Deputy Attorney general. Now we learn from the president directly he had already decided to fire james comey. So why were so many people giving answers that just werent correct . Were you guys in the dark . Was the Vice President misled again . Sarah i know youd love to report we were misled and we want to create hold on, jonathan. I let you finish and read off every single one of those statements. Unless you want to trade places i think its my turn now. , i think its pretty simple. I hadnt had a chance to have the conversation directly with the president to say i had several conversations with him but i didnt ask that question directly. Had you already made that decision, i went off of the information that i had when i answered your question. I have since had the conversation with him right before i walked on today, and he laid it out very clearly. He had already made that decision. He had been thinking about it for months, which i did say yesterday and have said many times since. And wednesday i think was the final straw that pushed him and the recommendation he got from the Deputy Attorney general just further solidified his decision. And, again, i think reaffirmed that he made the right one. Reporter was the Vice President was the Vice President in the dark too . Sarah nobody was in the dark, jonathan. You want to create this false narrative. If we want to talk about contradicting statements and people that were maybe in the dark, how about the democrats . Lets read a few of them. You want to talk about them, heres what democrats said not long ago about comey. Harry reid said comey should resign and be investigated by the senate. Senator Chuck Schumer said, i dont have confidence in him any longer. Senator Bernie Sanders said it not be a bad thing for the American People if comey resigned. Nancy pelosi said comey was not in the right job. Former d. N. C. Chair Debbie Wasserman schultz said comey would not be a will to serve in a neutral and credible way. President obamas advisor Valerie Jarrett urged and the fire comey. Just yesterday representative Maxine Waters said Hillary Clinton would have fired comey. If you want to talk about people in the dark . Our story is consistent. The president is the only person that can fire the director of the f. B. I. He serves at the pleasure of the president. The president made the decision. It was the right decision. The people that are in the dark today are the democrats. They want to come out. They want to talk about all of these they love comey and how great he was. Look at the facts. The facts dont lie. Their statements are all right there. I think its extremely clear that and frankly i think its kind of sad. In washington we finally had something that i think we should have all been able to agree on and that was that director comey shouldnt have been at the f. B. I. , but the democrats want to play partisan games and i think thats the most glaring thing thats been left out of all your process stories. John roberts . Reporter sarah, you said from the podium yesterday director comey lost confidence of the rank and file of the f. B. I. On capitol hill today, the acting director of the f. B. I. Andrew mccabe directly contradicted that. What led you and the white house to believe that he had lost the confidence in the rank and file of the f. B. I. When the acting director says its exactly the opposite . Sarah well, i can speak to my own personal experience. I heard from countless members of the f. B. I. That are grateful and thankful for the president s decision and i think that, you know, we may have to agree to disagree. I am sure there are some people that are disappointed but have certainly heard from a large number of individuals and thats just myself, and i dont know that many people in the f. B. I. Reporter what you were saying about the democrats, clearly they didnt like james comey too much after the october 28 pronouncement that he was reopening the investigation into Hillary Clintons emails. Their point now is that timing is different. That this was in the middle of an investigation. Do they have a point . Sarah not at all. Ccabenk mr. Mccain mr. M made that point far better than i could today when he said theres been no impediment to the investigation, and as i said before, any investigation that was taking place on monday is still taking place today. So i think thats, again, another sad story by the democrats that theyre trying to peddle. Reporter sarah, thank you. Another comment from the hearing today. The acting Deputy Attorney general said sorry. Mccabe said he considers the investigation into russian meddling in the election to be highly significant. In the past the president said that said the investigation was a hoax and he questioned even recently whether maybe it wasnt russia, might have been china. Does the president consider this investigation to be highly significant . Sarah look, i think he would love nothing more for this investigation to continue to continue to its completion. I think one of the reasons that the hoax component is the conclusion component that has been the false narrative that you guys have been pushing for the better part of a year. I think thats the piece that he is repeatedly talking about being the hoax. Reporter but in terms of the threats to National Security, does he take that seriously . Does he think thats significance . Sarah of course he takes National Security seriously. To even hint he doesnt i think is to misunderstand this president completely. From the very moment that he stepped onto the Campaign Stage to the day that he took the oath of office to become president , he has talked about National Security. Hes made that one of the biggest priorities in the administration. You just saw tom talking about cybersecurity on all fronts, whether its securing the border, whether its protecting people abroad, here, the president has been focused. Reporter was it a threat to u. S. National security . Sarah you know, i havent had a chance to ask about that. I think were waiting on the final conclusion of that investigation. Look, i think anytime we have somebody interfering with our election, that would be considered a problem and i think the president would certainly recognize that. Matthew . Reporter two questions. First, as has been mentioned, Vice President pence said yesterday the firing was based on the recommendation of the attorney general and Deputy Attorney general. We know now thats not true. Was the Vice President misled again or did he misled the American People . Sarah i believe i answered that question. Reporter i dont believe i caught it. The Vice President said yesterday the president chose to accept and support the decision of the Deputy Attorney general and attorney general. Sarah he certainly accepted the deputy that doesnt mean that he wouldnt still accept his recommendation. I mean, theyre on the same page. Like, why are we arguing about the semantics of whether he accepted it . They agreed. I mean, im not sure how he didnt accept the Deputy Attorney generals recommendation when they agreed with one another. Reporter if i may switch topics slightly. If you knew if the president knew he was going to do this, why ask for those memos to begin with . Why not just fire comey . Why have these memos put out and then explain he did it because of the memos but then say he was going to do it either way . Im confused why he got those memos . Sarah look, i think he wanted to get the feedback from the director of the attorney general who the director of the f. B. I. Reports to. Again, it further solidified the decision he made. The only person that can fire comey was the president. He made that decision. It was clearly the right one as evidenced by all of the comments, both by house and senate democrats, republicans, and many people within the f. B. I. I think instead of getting so lost in the process that this happened at 12 01 or 12 02, did he fire him because he wore a red tie or blue tie, he fired him because he was not fit to do the job. Its that simple. It shouldnt be a complicated process. The president knew that director comey was not up to the task. He decided he wasnt the right person for the job. He wanted somebody that could bring credibility back to the f. B. I. That had been lost over this last several months. The president made that decision. He made it. He moved forward. It was the right one. I dont think that, you know, the back and forth makes that much difference. Reporter sarah do you follow call on me . Sarah yes, sorry. Reporter sarah, going back to what you said about democrats. Yes, there are some democrats that said comey should have been fired, but theyre questioning the timing. Why now . Even though the Deputy Attorney general did do that theyre questioning why now . Sarah i think ive answered this. I hate to, again, just keep repeating myself. Were kind of getting lost on the same questions here. He he had decided that he wasnt fit. Theres never going to be a good time to fire someone. Whether its on a tuesday or a friday. He decided he wanted to give director comey a chance. He did. And he felt like he wasnt up to the task. Reporter and then last question. Monday, sean spicer when he was at the podium, he said after the testimony with clapper and yates he said he talked about there was no collusion but he said the investigation into russia should continue. Which one is it, should it continue or end because spicer said the president want it had to end monday and then yesterday you said it should continue. Im trying to find a which one it is. Sarah i said we want it to come to its completion. We want it to continue until its finished, which wed like to happen soon so we can focus on the things that we think most americans, frankly, care a whole lot more about. I think the people in this room are obsessed with this story a lot more than the people that we talk to and we hear from every day. Wed like to be focused on the problems that they have. Thats the point is wed love for this to be completed. But we also want it to be completed with integrity. I think that was one of the other reasons frankly i think the decision the president made was the right one because i think it adds credibility and integrity back to the f. B. I. Where a lot of people frankly were questioning this. Reporter we now know the president fired the f. B. I. Director with more than six years left on his 10year term because he was a showboater, a grandstander. How important is it for the next f. B. I. Director not be a showboater or a grandstander . How important is that this person show loyalty to the president . Sarah i think the main factor theyre looking for is theyre loyal to the Justice System, theyre loyal to the American People. This president is looking for somebody who can come in that is independent and has the support, i think, across the board, whether its republicans, democrats, members of the f. B. I. And certainly the American People. Again, it wasnt just one thing that caused the president to make this decision. A large part of why he made this decision was because he didnt feel like director comey was up to the job. He had watched. It was just an erosion of confidence that he had in his ability to carry out the task that needed to be done. Hes looking for somebody to do that. Jordan. Reporter thank you, sarah. Two questions. First, i want to follow up about what john asked about the rankandfile of the f. B. I. Dont you think the acting director of the f. B. I. Has a better handle on the rank and file than you do . Sarah look, i am not going to get a back and forth on who has the better handle. Again, ive heard from multiple individuals that are very happy about the president s decision, and i know that it was the right one. I believe that most of the people that weve talked to also believe it was the right decision to make. Reporter and about the meeting yesterday between President Trump and the Russian Foreign minister. Can you walk us through how a photographer from either a russian state news outlet or the russian government got into that meeting and got those photographs out . Sarah yes. The same way they would whoever the president was meeting with when it comes to a foreign minister or a head of state. Both individuals have official photographers in the room. We had an official photographer in the room as did they. Reporter usually independent media in the u. S. Is typically invited into those meetings. Why didnt that happen in this case . Sarah it varies actually. Not always particularly. Sometimes the protocol when it is not the head of state and prior to the president meeting with the head of state that wouldnt always take place. So, again, proper protocol was followed in this procedure. Reporter has the president been questioned by the f. B. I. With regard to their investigation to russian or interference in the election . Sarah not that i am aware of. Reporter does he expect to be . Sarah i havent had the answer to ask that question. I am not trying to guess. Major. Reporter there is a general protocol at the Justice Department that discourages conversation with the president of the United States by the f. B. I. Director about anything that might involve the president. Thats a general aspect of the protocol. To ensure there is no confusion about political interference or any kind, or even the impression or the appearance of political influence on the f. B. I. Thats the standard procedure. You just said here said its appropriate for the president to ask if hes under investigation. Why is it appropriate if thats not consistent for the guidelines at the Justice Department to avoid that very encounter . Sarah we talked to, again, several legal scholars have weighed in on this and said there was nothing wrong for the president asking that question. Reporter so the department should change their protocol . Sarah i am speaking to the information i have. Its not what i think. Look at the people that followed up the interview. There were multiple attorneys that came on after and specifically stated that it was not inappropriate, it wasnt wrong for the president to do so. So, again, i can only base it off. I am not an attorney. I dont play one on tv. But what i can tell you is what i heard from legal minds and people that actually are attorneys and thats their opinion. So i have to trust the Justice System on that fact too. Reporter would you say based on the experience that you and sean and this Communications Office had tuesday and wednesday that you were given all of the best information to relay to the American Public through us and your job is to relay that information to the American Public, were only intermediaries, about what happened with this firing sarah you seem to take a much proactive approach most of the time, but i will take intermediaries today. I think we were absolutely given the information that we could have at that time. It was a quickmoving process. We took the information we had as best we have it and got it out to the American People as quickly as we could. Reporter and would you say that that information was accurate then or more accurate now . Sarah i would say after having a conversation with the president you dont get much more accurate than that. Reporter by that standard, should reporters and the country essentially wait for a pronouncement from the president before believing that which is stated on his behalf by the White House Communications staff . Sarah look, major, i am not going to get into a back and forth. Like we have to have a direct quote every single time. In this process, i gave you the best information i had at the moment. I still dont think that it contradicts the president s decision. You guys want to get lost in the process. Its very simple. Reporter i dont think the answer was lost in the process, with all respect, sarah. Sarah im answering those questions. Its very simple. The president decided to fire director comey. Nobody else gets to make that decision. And he made it. He stands by it as do the rest of us. Mike. Reporter two questions. Following up on the back in i think october of last year, the former president was highly criticized by members of the f. B. I. And others outside of the f. B. I. For making comments on television that were sort of suggested that he had an opinion about how the Hillary Clinton email case should go. And the charge was that he was interfering, that he was putting his thumb on the scale of an ongoing active investigation. There was a lot of criticism from republicans on that. Talk to me how that how what this president did in his series of conversations with the f. B. I. Director doesnt go far beyond what former president obama did . And to majors point, how can you argue regardless of maybe some pundits on tv who might be saying otherwise, how can you argue that doesnt have an appearance of trying to influence an investigation thats actively going on . Sarah look, i think the president s encouraged this investigation to take place and complete so we can move forward. Weve been as compliant as possible throughout the entire process. We will continue to do so. Nobody wants this investigation to go forward and complete and end with integrity more than the president. Reporter people clearly want to know which way he wants it to come out. Sarah on the right side. I think he wants it to come out. Hes very well aware of the actions he has or has not taken. He reporter just a followup on the fbi income and i am not trying to be overly combative but you said today and yesterday, that you personally fbi talked to countless officials, employees since this happened. Sarah correct. Reporter really . 60 . Sara i am not going to get into a numbers game. I have heard from a large number of individuals at the fbi who say they are very happy with the decision of the president. The Deputy Attorney general did he ask the White House Council to correct the version of events . i dont know that they have specifically asked for a correction. We want to make sure we get this right and that is what we have attempted to do all along. There were several questions after the briefing yesterday and i addressed that again in the opening today. Our goal is to get this as right as we can. Rter the department of justice has pushed back and said that was not accurate. Rob rosenstein was the decision pinned on him . Makes the president decision. The book stops with him. The buck stops with him. No one is saying that this was not the decision of the president. We know that the president has been thinking about this for a long time. Wednesday, it certainly expedited the testimony of the director last wednesday and getting the recommendation from the Deputy Attorney general solidified the president s decision the decision of the president. He encouragings that when he has just fired the man that is overseeing that investigation . Is, we wantoint this to come to a conclusion. With integrity. By we think that we have removing director call me, taken steps to make that happen. Thank you so much guys. 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