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Party, in addition to young people and minorities. The problem for the democrats is they tend not to turn out to vote in midterms. They do better in a president ial year, but that is the big question. Will single women, as well as young people and minorities, turn out to vote for someone who is not barack obama . Hillary clinton is appealing directly to women. I have not been able to find any data recently, but my sense in light is that for women 50 year old and older, married or single, the appeal to elect the first female president has a certain strength to it, but there has been some argument that for women under 50, certainly under 40, Hendry Hillary is a grandmother, an earlier generation. A lot of them tend to think there will be a female president at some point and they have other priorities, but she wants to maximize the vote among women justis sort the caller mention because she sees that as a core constituency and thinks that will be crucial to her chances. Host mary, a Quick Response to that comment from the viewer, it is about so much more than gender to many of us. Show your thoughts, comments and questions that cspan wj. Lisa on the line for republicans joining us from freeport, louisiana. Good morning. My dad just passed away four days ago. Host i am so sorry. Caller thank you. I had been taken care of him for seven years. I have no insurance, i have no income. Medicaiddal to collate took the white medicaid. I go to a charity hospital. I think it is terrible what the Republican Party is doing. I am a republican but i will be changing to democrat. I think it is terrible that we cannot die with dignity. I think everybody should have insurance. I think that i am scared to death because i have no income. There are no jobs, and i do not know what i am going to do. Can you tell me what you would do . Question. T is a tough i remembered that in one of the 2012, and this is not to suggest the current candidates believe this way, nbcn williams, late of news, of course, was asking one of the candidates a question, maybe several of the republican candidates, if someone turns up in an emergency room or hospital with no health insurance, what should be done . Rocksa fairly republican audience, and you could hear over the microphones people in the audience yelling, let them die. That was pretty extreme. The is not to suggest Republican Party would take the point of view or this year candidates would take the point of view, but this is as i think the issue. The question is the extent to which there should be a social safety net. Democrats typically want a wider and thicker social safety net. Republicans believe that discourages peoples willingness to go out and work and they tend to want a more narrow and dinner socialsafety thinner safety net. I know that governor bobby jindal dropped out and he ran passionately and apocalyptically, talking about the importance of the election. Itsnces applauded, but not translate into poll numbers. I recall right before he dropped out, his polling numbers nationwide and in iowa, or in the low single digits, if that high, and even in louisiana, they were not good and among louisiana republicans. The caller reflects a point of view that i think certainly exists in louisiana. The question for republicans is will you leave the caller in these circumstances on her own or depending on private charity or is there any role for government, state, or federal to provide assistance . We will be talking much more about this, but we will be the one network that will actually take you inside the caucuses and let you watch the event unfold. Perfect for professors and Political Science students. The way to explain the caucus process and we will have a Republican Caucus on cspan, the Democratic Caucus on cspan2. Donald joins us indiana, democrat line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Look, i am not a donald trump fan or anything, but i have to tell you, he is playing the media perfectly. The media is just letting him get away with it. What i mean by this, all he has is come upsmartly, with something controversial and the media just run with that. I am like, ok . Start asking him specific questions, for example, he is a great builder of all these big buildings in new york and everywhere. Ask him, mr. Trump, do you use union people on your Building Sites . The media needs to start doing their job and asking questions, specific questions, on what he says and the things he has said in the past. Host thank you. Donald trump is very skilled at using media to advance his message. There is no question about that. I have said recently that trump is catnip, particularly for cable television. It is fun to sit and watch and wonder someone will set themselves on fire, at least rhetorically, and in some ways, it is like a nod to accident that is horrible to look at the you cannot take your eyes off of it. He is asked meeting to watch. Is the lovedynamics anger, outrage. That generates an audience. Trump does this. Candidates tend to be fairly skilled at saying what they want to say. You will notice in various debate forums and even nondebate forums, if someone has asked a question, the candidate easily shifts to the talking points that he or she wants to make. The questioner may try and try to get that candidate to address the question directly, but it is very hard. I believe for some time, at some point, the questioner might legitimately say, the candidate simply dodged the question. When trump is been asked questions about particular policy issues, at times, he has reminded me the student has not done the reading for class and he will try to bluff his way out of the answer when he has not done the reading and that is billy mr. Trump sounds at times with regards to details about policy issues. Everybody wants to make the country great, but the devil is in the details. Trump represents what i like to call, the middle finger segment of the american electorate. He cuts across democratic politicians and policies and republican politicians and policies. Trump appeals to people that up with politicians and politics and policies, as usual. People who believe that members of both parties have not been ,istening them for a long time so they love to mix it up. Host there is a story this morning on the front page of the new york times, Class Divisions correct. Nt is by Jonathan Marti talking about the schisms within the gop. The first ad put out from the top campaign this week, focus on immigration. I am donald trump and i approve this message. Politicians can pretend it is something else, but donald trump calls it radical islamic terrorism, he is calling for a temporary shutdown of muslims entering the United States until we can figure out what is going on. He will quickly cut the head off isis, take their oil and stop the illegal immigration by building a wall that mexico will pay for. We will make America Great again. [applause] host that ad has been playing extensively in iowa and New Hampshire. Related to that is this used by agee in the edition of the wall street journal, where she says, trump is for real to the republican establishment. Guest one of the main, if not the main concerns of the federal government, of course, is to protect the country, National Security. We live in times where people are concerned about national if you look at the cognitive dimension, that is the and trumpsit says, simply repeating what he said before. He will build a wall, defeat isis, take their oil and so forth, so that is not new. But if you look at the tone and ad,visual dimensions of the it is black and white. In this day and age, it is very foreboding. The tone is foreboding. It is an attempt to play on the fears that people justifiably had, but it is a fearbased ad. In a time where in the view of a lot of potential trump , he is saying, i am the tough guy and i will protect this country from the dangers posed by foreign enemies and even illegal immigrants. Us fromarles joins phenix city, alabama, republican line. Caller good morning. It seems to us that the republicans are very careful not to touch on the criminal activities with the clintons and career politicians going back way before he left arkansas and hillary left. Trust, number one, we have career politicians. The difference between them and donald trump, if we look at everybody, even on the republican and democrat ticket, with the exception of donald trump, carly fiorina, and dr. Carson, all these people have been living on some form of government jobs, city, state or federal list of their adult back, in it even goes most cases, to the grandfathers. The only things these politicians run their mouths. They have never run a business. Donald trump gets things done. The press is so dishonest and they will not admit this to the public. Host thank you. Let me get your response to this as well, another viewer saying, iowa caucus voters middle finger voters . Guest umm, potential Trump Supporters might well be, but the bulk of iowa caucus voters, remember, they have to be registered members of the Political Parties. Iowa is not an open primary stay, so if you will participate in a Republican Caucus, you have to be a registered republican. If you open dissipated in the Democratic Caucus, you have to be a registered democrat. You are allowed to reregister as late as caucus night. You can go in and say you would like to change your Party Registration to participate in the party caucus. So they are party operations. A lot of them agree registered to dissipate, and the vast majority did so to vote for ron paul, who there was a republican, but different kind of republican, much more libertarian. His son rand paul has not been able to duplicate that, this far at least, this time around. The caucuses are the process much more inclined to be Party Members are party supporters. That is why it is interesting to. Ee will they track to influence Republican Caucus. Host as you process the candidates ground game and what you are hearing and seeing from your Vantage Point at drake university, what are you predicting in terms of turnout on caucus night . What story do you think we will be talking about the day after . Tough. That is i always say i am never in the business of predictions. Far, anyot seen, so significant change in Party Registration, particularly among the republicans. Our secretary of states office, now matter whether it is run by a democrat or republican, has a very good website that anybody can access that will show people photo registration statistics. These are published monthly, the first of every month, and they are not showing any significant increase at all, other than a couple of thousand on the republican side for this time around. Av this will change caucus night, maybe this will change caucus night. We do not know. Or the republicans, record turnouts are 124,000 voters. If you goes to 130,000 voters, it is a record, but is it significant . It would not seem to be. It is a variable we do not know about. On caucus night, the Big Questions will be on the democratic side, is Bernie Sanders able to hold Hillary Clinton down to the low pay 2 low 50 percentile range or even at 50 . The confusion of about how democrats report results. On the republican side, it is clear and simple. It is a preference vote. Will donald trump hold his secondplace position . Will the surgeon to attack would be ted cruz . Or will ted cruz hold on and maintain his number one position . And will it be the beginning of the end for the other candidates thus far . Host professor dennis goldfo host joining us from New Hampshire, the chief political correspondent, formerly longtime reporter and columnist. Good sunday morning. Thank you for being with us. Guest thanks for having me. Host let me share with you one of the headlines, which gets to one slice of the New Hampshire electorate. It points out that senator rubio is trying to broaden his appeal in New Hampshire but aces skepticism. Explain whats going on up there for senator rubio and within the Republican Party. Guest sure. With regard to senator rubio he made an interesting statement where he essentially said you have to be in touch with the voters mood. Thats what is different about this election and this primary up here. Its really not about the issues. Its really not about the resume. Its not even about the personality of donald trump. Its about voter mood. Voters are angry and frustrated. And rubeyow said if youre tuned in to that. Theres no way theyre going to vote for you for president. So thats his challenge to try to tap into that anger and let voters know that he feels it, too, but to try and produce a constructive agenda of moving forward. In the io is involved next month leading up to this primary in whats going to be a food fight between who is going to be the alternative. And that has already begun on the air waves with negative ads with campaign events, and the fight is going to be between john casic, Chris Christie, marco rubio, and jeb bush. Only one is going to emerge as the alternative to donlt trump. Obviously ted cruz has his showing in iowa going for him. If he is able to actually win iowa he can come here as wem and be a real player so thats rubios dilemma right now. Host do you have any sense that any of those socalled establishment candidates would withdraw before the New Hampshire primary . Guest i dont think so. At one point months ago i felt that was the case. I really felt like a number of candidates would have dropped out. More candidates would have dropped out by now. As you know we still have 12 candidates for this race. Its a dizzying pace for my counterpart to follow and myself with 76 events last week. I think these candidates, the establishment candidates have too much money, too much support, too much at stake to drop out before theres an actual vote. So i think many of them will drop out perhaps after New Hampshire if the result is a particularly negative one for them. Host lets take a look at the demographics of the New Hampshire electorate where there are about 874,000 registered voters. And we talk about this every four years but its interesting to point out that undecided is of argest category of 44 the electorate followed by republican at 30 , dramatic at 26 , and reminder back in 2012 the last contested republican primary mitt romney winning followed by then congressman ron paul, governor hutsman, senator san tax reform and House Speaker newt gingrich. As you look at those numbers what does that tell you about 1e6 . What it really tells us about 2016 is where is that big block going to go . Meaning the undeclared, unenrolled independent voters. As you know, up here in New Hampshire we have a couple of things going for independents. First off we have election day registration. You can actually register to vote on primary day and cast a ballot. Second, for independents they can go into the polling place, they can grab whichever primary ballot they want either democratic or republican, and then when they leave the polls they can change back to independent. Its a very friendly, user frndly environment. Thats why so many indnlts take part. Why is that important . Well, right now polls are showing that indbts are 20 mrts more likely to vote in the republican primary than in the democratic primary. Thats bad news for Bernie Sanders if that holds up. His hope of a clossle upset of Hillary Clinton really rests on an enormous voter turnout. But if all those vote republican he has lost those folks. Its the same thing, frankly, that happened to bill bradley against al gore in 2000. All those independents went in and voted for john mccain who beat george w. Bush in that republican primary. Great news for john mccain. Bad news for bill bradley. Bernie sand sers hoping history doesnt repeat itself. Host talking about the divisions in the g. O. P. Oin eggy noonans head points out the following. Guest i think again the Republican Party is struggling with the old paradigm no longer works. Which is the Republican Party was the trusted party in which its so and sos turn. With every primary with the modern primary in 1925 with the republicans its always been someones turn. It was bob doles turn. It was john mccains turn. It was george w. Bushs turn, it was mitt romneys turn. In this primary its really nobodys turn and donald trump has turned the race on its head and is campaigning in a way that establishment candidates almost never campaign. I mean, think about this. What other have you ever seen an establishment republican cant date turn and boo the press which is what donald trump does in almost every really he is . Have you ever seen a republican president ial candidate make the gaffs and issteps or have their popularity increase not decrease . Thats what usually happens. So thats what the establishment is going through right now. What do we do with this guy trump, and even ted cruz is a threat to the establishment as you know on capitol hill. And those are the two people with the big mow right now. Host this is a photograph of Time Magazine in massachusetts at the paul tsongas arena. He ran for president in 1992. A huge crowd. As the Washington Post pointed out the Campaign Manager is from lowell. D they have been able to tap into many communities often overlooked by president ial candidates. Guest and weve seen this even nationally. Hes gone to biloxi, mississippi. Hes gone to a number of places all over the country that are either underserved or felt left out where unemployment is higher and hes tapped into that amminger and frustration and getting these enormous crowds. More than 3,000 in burlington, vermont, the home of the place that elected the socialist mayor Bernie Sanders decades ago. But he keeps turning out these crowds. And the events have a different plaver than is typical. He put out a statement at the burlington event in which he said im taking care of my people. Im not interested in the people who are undecided or who wont vote for me. Im loyal to my people because theyre loyal to me. As you know, in New Hampshire president ial primary talk thats political hersy. Mean, candidates, the playbook for candidates to campaign in New Hampshire is to have undecided voters come to their events and to win them over. But literally, every dommed trump event and rally is like a cult following. I got some polling from a democratic source earlier this week that showed in New Hampshire Donald Trumps unfavorable rating is as high as 65 . Now, thats scary to every republican opponent. Why . It says that virtually everyone who has a favorable viewpoint of donald trump is voting for him here. Theyve already decided theyre with him here. As i pointed out earlier, with all the either missteps or controversies, many of those folers have remained loyal to him. Its a very solid following. As i say, for all the other establishment candidates its frightening. Host our guest is the chief political correspondent. His work is available on line at nh 1. Com. He began his career in massachusetts with the lowell son. A great friend of the cspan networks. We always appreciate having him on. He is joining us from manchester, New Hampshire. We have a line set aside for those who live in the granite state. We begin with senator marco rubio one of a number of candidates in South Carolina yesterday for the forum. You can check it out on our website. He came out with a new ad taking aim at one of his chief rivals. Host that ad which focuses on Chris Christie and that paragraph right before the 2012 election as Hurricane Sandy hit the new jersey coast. I remember back in 2012 that a lot of republicans taking aim at governor huntsman who served as the u. S. Ambassador to china. Is this resonating any differently in 2016 . Guest its certainly not helpful to him. But its not getting the kind of traction against Chris Christie i think it would if he hadnt been spending a lot of time campaigning here. Hes been here more than 65 days campaigning in New Hampshire almost as much as any other candidate in the race. He has held a number of town halls. He built up a reservoir of support here. He has a Prominent Group of endorsements on his team. A number of legislative leaders, former speakers of the house. So thats helpful to him. Re, you was saying befo never want to be with a month left the subject of an attack ad from one of your opponents. And as you know its not the only one up there. Jeb bushs own super pac has an ad up talking about the other governors in this race, Chris Christie and john casic and why jeb bush is preferable to them. And raising some of these same issues. Taxes with christie, casic supporting medicaid expansion. So thats certainly what rubio is trying to tap into and it can be a problem. And ink as i said earlier i think its going to get more negative not less. Host saying that senator rubio has been spoon fed in every election and would not be a vibling nominee against Hillary Clinton. Guest and has also raised governor christie as has others, have raised senator rubios less than stellar attendance record in the u. S. Senate. Ost we have this tweet. Guest certainly New Hampshire is economically very solid. Its one of the more wealthiest states in the country, one of the top ten states of per capita income. But theres its a very small state. Its largely a rural state. It has a couple of Population Centers but its largetly a rural state. Its also a very white state. Its one of the whitest states in the country where having growing minority populations but theyre still relatively small. F course, is highly educated population. Highly tuned in to high technology. Employees in much larger numbers and percentage have high tech skills and computer skills than do the populations of most states in the country. Ost lets hear from matt 6789 caller good morning. And thank you for cspan. I really enjoy the ability to speak. When they came on line i was really hopeful that we would have a news program that would just be a little more open with people. I have not yet seen your news channel cover the poisoning of thousands of people in flint, michigan. I havent seen you do much coverage on the terrorist standout in oregon on the National Wild life refuge. And ive been getting bombarded with political ads for four months. Pay to watch my hockey games not to get political ads on my hockey games. Hes very true in how he described New Hampshire and its very correct. Very intelligent people and high tech. We are a rural state, small state but very independent. Im registered as an independent. Host are you go to vote . Caller without a doubt. Ive never missed an election in my life and im 57 years old. Host who is your candidate . Caller at this point, Bernie Sanders. But i may vote in the republican primary. Im not sure yet. Host if you vote in the republican primary who would you vote for . Guest i would probably vote for casic. Host because . Guest because hes a moderate. Hes willing to work. Hes proven he can work across the aisle. My big problem with politics now is we are just too politically divided. Host thanks for the call. Guest certainly with regard to the unrest in oregon we have reported that story. The family from rochester is politically active in circles. Susan, state representative, theyve been very active. Her husband has gone out there to support folks who are protesting the bureau and weve interviewed him. But pleeskeep turning in and we appreciate all the input you provide to us. But i think matt does represent a lot of voters in New Hampshire. P independents who are, as we were talking about earlier, trying to decide do i want to try to voke republican . Where do i want to send my snadge . Independent voters are notoriously strategic. They often want to take part in the primary where they think they will have the greatest impact. Host alicia joining us from buffalo, new york. Good morning. Caller i was calling because i wanted to vote for somebody thats going to do right by our ountry and not going to be going against our president. Because theyve been doing that lately. Host so who is your candidate . Caller i want somebody whose going to do right by us. Host thank you. Any response . Guest yes. A very good point. Barack obama only the second win at since f. D. R. To the New Hampshire four elect tral votes twice. Very popular in this state here. There isnt any question about it. But absolutely right, all republicans have nothing good to say about barack obama and Bernie Sanders, youve heard the adds, talked about we live in a rillingd economies where billionaires play the tune and the rest have to follow the music. I think Hillary Clinton is the only one who spends a lot of time talking about trying to complete the barack obama agenda and also extended and put her own stamp on it. Host if you look back since 1988, that was the last time in a competitive primary New Hampshire veeters voted for the candidate who went on to be president. That was bush. Since then, bill clinton lost New Hampshire, won New Hampshire to barack obama by a narrow percentage voint. Mccain winning. I mention that because theres a headline this morning on the relevance and importance of the New Hampshire primary. The question is to whether or not New Hampshire will be first in 2020. Guest hes absolutely correct. Texas republican champ had wanted to bring to this weeks Republican National Committee Meeting in South Carolina a rule change to take away New Hampshires primary. Ted cruz the texas senator who is a good friend of the republican chairman talked him into withdrawing that proposal at this time. And has said its preposterous to talk about changing New Hampshires primary status. As bill, the longtime secretary of state, the longest serving state election official in the country, has said this is the first time he set the primary date in february 9th, of course this is the first time he hasnt had to break either democratic or republican primary rules in setting the date. Despite a lot of the unrest weve heard from harry reid, republican s, the National Chairman about sake red cows and getting rid of the New Hampshires. Theres been no threat to the first primary from another state in this cycle. That is unique but there isnt any question that after this e lecks they will be moved in both Political Parties to try and dilute New Hampshires influence. As were seen time and time again. Our greatest weapon is our voters. How involved they are, how big the turnouts always are. And our second greatest weapon are our candidates and the president s who get elected who say dont do anything to change New Hampshire. New hampshire is unique in that we have to meet real voters, we have to actually convince them to support us. Its not airport tarmac press conferences and slick dam pain ads that make up the entirement of the campaign in most states across america. So slongs we have candidates and the National Media singing the praces of New Hampshire there are going to be challenges but i think we will survive them. Host a tweet. Caller good morning. I just wanted to make a comment cammed candidate who these rallies and the protesters are using the wrong platform. If these protesters it doesnt matter who they are, republicans or democrats, at an opposite rally are using the long platform for their protests. So any candidate, republicans, democratic, oregon dependent that wants to have a protest ushered out should do so. Because theyre not in the right place. Host thank you for the call. Guest thank you for the call and the comments. Whats interesting about this cycle is that and it goes back to what i was talking about earlier about the high unfavorable rating in general for donald trump. Hes the only one who is getting a lot of proteggers at his events. There arent a lot of them at Chris Christies or hicks events. Certainly Hillary Clintons events. Well give you all kinds of research and talking points about the candidate who will be speaking inside. But donald trump has protestors at almost all of his rallies and has been very surgical of ushering out people mo raise protests because in his mind theyre invading not the privacy of the event but the sanctity of the event thats taking place there. And whenever these folks are ushered out its met with huge loud applause from all of trumps u. S. Ers. Crowd one of the most pleasing parts of every rally. Host another viewer said i would like to see a National Primary day. One for republicans and one for democrats. Is that practical . Guest boy, i dont know. I certainly youre hearing that more and more that there is. And particularly with technology the way it is today we could always vote we wouldnt have to go to the polling place we could vote with our smart phones. Ut im not sure thats the way we want democracy to work. I think americans intensely like the give and take that occurs in president ial primaries and caucuses like yamplee and New Hampshire. I wanted to also address your earlier question about New Hampshire not always picking the winner and iowa. Former governor and white house chief of staff john sewn uneu said iowa picks corn. Thats not entirely correct. It is true that of the last 1 people who have been elected new ent, theyve all won hampshire. Meaning 13 of them won New Hampshire. But back to the point. Most voters here in New Hampshire dont believe its their job to pick the president. Most voters think its their job to make the choice manageable for the rest of the country. Thats precisely why often people who dont get elected president ial. Thats precisely why john mccain won in New Hampshire. Enough republicans said another bush . Were not sure. Lets promote this guy mccain. Thats why pat buchanan won in New Hampshire. A lot of republicans say bob dole president . Were not sure. Lets make sure theres a contest, and they promoted pat buchanan. Bob dole a lovely man but many happened be to be right. In 2008 a lot of democrats said barack obama oneterm senator. Not a lot of accomplishment. Gives a great speech. Were not so sure. So we voted for Hillary Clinton and created this knockdown, dragout fight to the nomination that everyone argues made barack obama a better candidate and helped elect him president. We spent six days in New Hampshire covering town hall john casic ncluding and bush. Theyve been posted. Were live today with Hillary Linton in New Hampshire this jan. Follow our coverage. Our guest is kevin land again the chief correspondent. The first of the nation primary, New Hampshire. Donald joining us from port arthur, texas. Good morning. Caller hello. I sure enjoy cspan and it gives you a chance to see that the people out there are just not informed of whats going on. They just dont get it. Im a democrat but i didnt vote for barack obama. Barack obama was like you said a onetime senator. He didnt have the experience, he didnt have the know how. Look where we are now. Trillions in debt when we took office, we are over 19 in isis is getting to us. We had shb in here in houston arrested not that long weigh. And nobody seems to understand that weve got to put them down and get rid of them or else theyre going to take over this country. Host thank you for the call. Caller thanks a lot for the call. He guest hes right about one thing is about National Security and the threat isis poses has become a much bigger issue than nine months ago wefment the attacks in paris, a number of advancements that middle east has become a very issue. And to the detriment of some candidates. Dr. Ben carson has been motorly wounded by the fact that he doesnt have the mastry on Foreign Policy than he has ol on some of the domestic issues. Thats certainly hurt him here in New Hampshire and to some extent its hurt him in iowa as well. I go to town halls and particularly at republican events, theres always an isis question. Theres always a National Security question. And its often the first question thats asked. Host from the opinion pages of he new york times. Lets go to joseph in kentucky. Republican line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thanks for tarking my call. I forget who said it but it would be easily googled. But someone said that elections are far too important ton left in the voters hands. Thats pretty funny. But im kind of disappointed as on certain ting candidates by the press. Its a tell tail sign when all the press reports on someone like donald audience. But equally tell tail sign is people that you dont cover and you dont hear anything about that have such grassroots followingings such as rand paul and he has so many people sending him money and such a following that no other candidates can even touch him. I wonder why the press dont mention his name. Its like theyve been ordered to not say anything about him. Dont mention how he has done. I think the polls are really askewed. Guest thank you for the call. Youre absolutely right that donald trump has been getting a lot of news coverage. There isnt any question about it. But we take our responsibility in New Hampshire very seriously to cover all the capped dates and give them all time. Just this past friday, we had paul our network for half an hour. Of special programming. We call it fiscal fridays in which we ask the candidates the come in and hit down with our political director and talk specifically about the national debt. The Concord Coalition is the cosponsor of this program. Its been very successful and it gives us an opportunity to give all of the candidates their equal time. And weve tried to do that. I think wmurtv has done that as well. They have conversations with the candidates and have given them time as paul, often likes to do four hours with four candidates he actually goes on the campaign trail and covering them equal gives time. Rand paul is not showing up in the polls but there is no doubt hes got a strong Grassroots Organization in New Hampshire. He announced his a 500 ds supporter to that organization earlier this week. He has a gentleman named mike who is an expert Republican Campaign organizer running his campaign with experience and theyve put together a very impressive network of people. So if the ground game counts for anything and i believe it does rand paul will outperform his poll numbers on february 9. Host you talk about the demographics of the voters and independents. We heard an ad from marco rubio but also this from Bernie Sanders who is vying against Hillary Clinton and governor mallie for a win in New Hampshire. He appears on meet the press lets listen to what he has to say. You and donald trump are the big surprise political stories. Youve suggested that yur message about the economic inequality can appeal to the trump voters. Plain how that happens. Guest well, many are working class people. And they are angry. And they are angry because theyre working longer hours for lower wages. Theyre angry because their jobs have left the country. Theyre angry because they cant afford to send the kids to college. I think what trump has done successfully and take that anger and antianxiety and say to a lot of people, the reason for our problems is because of mexicans and he says theyre all criminals and rapists. Weve got to hate mexicans. What he says about isis, shes a terrorist and has to go up the spelling. This is a guy who has not want to raise the minimum wage. He has said wages are too high. But he does want to give hundreds of billions of tax breaks to the top 1 to 4 . So i think we can make the case we can make the issue the raise turned. Why the middle class is disappearing. That we need policies that bring us together. That take on the greed of wall street, the greed of corporate erica and create a mick that workses for all of us rather than just a the few. Host what you hear he is saying is its a tale of two polls. Showing the race competitive. Naturally Hillary Clinton remains ahead significantly but a lot can happen between early february. Guest yeah. And they can influence the race. We dont always follow what iowa does. But certainly if secretary clinton were to defeat Bernie Sanders in iowa and perhaps do it decisively, it would certainly hurt his mome mum here. You can hear the anger in bernie voice. And who can blame him. After all these low wage workers, to bernie sappeders theyre my voters and theyre going to donald trump. Going back to what we are talking about earlier. Unenrolled angry voters to vote in my primary secretary clinton is going to beat me in New Hampshire despite the polls that show me ahead. Host fred from conquer, New Hampshire. Caller my question is does rubio have the wisdom to be the president of the United States . This guys i look at him like a to, four year congressman who thinks he is qualified to be ppt to the United States. And then my other question is is as New Hampshire goes so goes the nation. Is that going to happen . Host thank you. Guest very good questions. Ertainly senator rubios relative inexperience compared to this race. Certainly whats been a primary. Until recently senator rubios Campaign Stops here in New Hampshire were less robust. But he has stepped up his campaign schedule. He has talented people on the ground. Hes got a very Good Campaign organization. But certainly governor bush, governor casic, governor christie, they would all if you asked them for rubio ready to be president if they would also say no. F would ask whether they u were qualified to be president they would say no. So as far as New Hampshire goes so goes the nation. I believe in the general election that is by the time who rolls around New Hampshire wins the electoral votes will be president of the United States. Thats not a crap shoot but its certainly a friendly game of chance. The odds of us having one of the nominees is very good. We almost always have one of the nominees. Weve had both. But many times, we have not. And we may not this time. Host and jan makes this final point. Guest whats i want resting he senator rubio is that engenders other than donald trump some of the most positive responses and some of the most negative at the same time and from different people. Along with donald trump, senator marco rubio who seems to have the look, who seems to have the way with words, the articulation, and sometimes the passion of a president. He still engenders among a lot of voters hate. That guys not reedy. What gives him the right to be at the front of the line as we are pointing out. Well see on primary da whether that negativity hurts him here. Right now hes doing very well in the polls and like i said hes in a position to be the alternative to donald trump. Hes just got to beat out these other governors to do it. Host we also appreciate your time and insights. Chief correspondent for nh 1 news. On washington journal, the ceo of Health America on obamas executive action on guns. Brinkley offers a perspective on the final year of bendernts and brian talks about his examination of the defense and Logistics Agency that makes purchases for the defense department. You can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. Tonight, on cspan, q and a is followed by David Cameron taking questions from the house of commons. Theary clinton received endorsement of planned parenthood at an event in New Hampshire. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] this week, marty baron talks about the changes at the post since he took over in 2013 and discusses the work as editor in at the boston globe and his depiction in the movie spotlight. Host marty baron, do you remember the first time you got interested in the News Business . Marty baron i was interested in what was happening in the world am i parents were immnt

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