On the next washington journal, associated dress reporter, Christopher Rue gaber that forecasty Economic Growth over the next two years. Of the Cato Institute. Regulation and the recent volatility in the stock market. Washington journal is every morning on cspan at 7 00 a. M. Eastern. Le leadern weiss, he is a of campaigns. Who focuseseutzer on Energy Economics and Climate Change. Thank you for joining us. The president prepares to travel to alaska to focus on Climate Change and Global Warming. He will be the first president to travel to the arctic circle. What can we expect . Guest i think the president is going to talk a lot about the need to make our communities more resilience to the impact of Climate Change. In alaska, for example, there are dozens of cities that are threatened from either erosion or softening tundra. They either have to be rebuilt or relocated, and that is going to cost millions and millions and millions of dollars. 85 of the communities in alaska face this. Guest i dont know. There has been warming for decades in a lot of places. What i know is that this is something the president has also been shilling for. It is not a climate ban. It will do nothing for Global Warming. The administrator of the epa admitted that as a at a hearing. He says this is doing essentially nothing to Worldwide Global temperatures. It is washington taking control of energy. It is not about climate. Host is Global Warming for real . Guest Global Warming is real and we have had Global Warming since the end of the last ice age. Apertures have been going up. They have been going up in the 1979 to the end of the 90s, they went up faster than they had been going up. They have slowed down dramatically depending on which endpoint to pick and whether you look at satellite or service temperatures. They are either totally flattened or they have shipped slowed down a lot. Is warming, what we dont know is how dramatic and is and how bad is going to be if it is bad at all. Host moving forward what do you think is the best remedy . Guest the best remedy is that we dont know what is going to be the challenge. If we have the most vibrant, robust economy we will best be able to handle whatever those challenges are. We want a Strong Economy to respond, whether it is relocating villages, being prepared for madmen with nuclear weapons, it is just depressing to see the huge poverty problems in the world. We want to see strong Economic Growth. The bestfortunately scientists we have just released this earlier this year, showing a steady increase in worldwide in temperature over the next 25 years contrary to what you said. And in fact, as a matter of fact, the worlds best scientists, including from the National Academy of sciences, from noaa, from nasa, all agree that Climate Change is real. It is here. Nasa is the agency that can shoot off a rocket and have it. Ome right by pluto they are the ones that are warning us about Climate Change. There is some uncertainty about climate, which is to say, just like smoking, i cant tell you how many cigarettes you have to smoke before you get lung disease. Doubt, smoking cigarettes will lead to lung disease. Not in everybody, but it will. How many cigarettes . We dont know. Same with Climate Change. Pump carbonue to dioxide and other pollutants into the atmosphere, mobile sector is warming. Some of the best scientific institutions across the world have all said this and we have seen the impact. For example in the last 20 years know what came out and said noaa came out and said the level has risen. We are seeing flooding in miami now. Climate change is real and it is caused by humans. Host i will give you both credit because you both came prepared with your charts. The you have a different chart . Guest i have a different chart. I would like to show mine. Dan got to show his. Nasa putting people on the moon and doing all these wonderful things, however if you look at the nasa generated temperature from their satellites, which cover the whole world, and not just this study which used the from old engine input on ships, for some reason that is the only way they the last 10rming in years. If you look at the satellite data it is very clear. It goes up and down and up and down. It has been static for the last 10 or 15 years. That is the nasa data that i handed you. Then plain to me guest explain to me then, why have nine of the 10 hottest years on record occurred in the past 10 years . Now we are on track in 2015 to have an even hotter your . The reality is guest can i answer your question . Guest no. Atmosphererer, scientists at university of california at berkeley, he was a skeptic. He got money from the koch brothers. He concluded not only is the planet warming, but it is caused by humans. You would be hardpressed to find a climate scientist who has your guest he did not say anything to contradict what i said. He simply found that it is there is warming and some of it is caused by humans. You said can i find credible scientists . Started this data, they have found that there has been no significant warming for the past 15 years. That is pretty straightforward. We get two different perspectives on the issue of Global Warming and Climate Change. The white house releasing this Youtube Video in advance of the president s trip to alaska. [video clip] hi everybody. A later this month i going to alaska and i am going because alaskans are on the frontline of one of the greatest challenges we face the century. Climate change. Climate change once seemed like a problem for future generations, but for most americans it is already a reality. Droughts, longer wildfire seasons. Some of our cities even flood at high tide. In alaska the hunting and way of that has been a life and jobs for generations are threatened. As alaskan permafrost melts, some towns are sinking into the ground. Naturalonal treasures are at risk. While i am there i will meet with americans were dealing with Climate Change every day and i will talk with other nations about how we can tackle this challenge together. I hope you will follow along at ouse. Cov alaska. This is not just a preview of what will happen if we dont take action, the alarm bells are ringing. As long as i am president we believe world to meet this threat before it is too late. Host your reaction, your response . Guest the president has been saying things that ares simply not true. Are simply not true. The glaciers are retreating but they have been the last ice age. This is nothing new. Sometimes they speed up, sometimes they slow down. We are not heading to a catastrophe. A chartance, here is from the National Oceanic and atmospheric administration. It is something called the palmer hydraulic. On that there is no the upper part that is where it is wet. On the lower part that is the drought. The worst drop by far, the dust bowl the 1930s. The Governmental Panel on Climate Change says the same thing. No trends droughts, no transit hurricanes, no trend in tornadoes. Host one other issue involving the president. He allowed drilling off the coast of alaska. Guest we are very disappointed. We believe the ecosystem off the coast of alaska is far too fragile. There is not the onshore recovery facilities. Facilities inse the gulf coast when we had the bp horrible oil spill five years ago. There is nothing like that on the short in northern alaska, none of the infrastructure to help recovery should there be a blowout. We are very disappointed. And if you look at his overall record, he has been one of the greatest leaders trying to address Climate Change and we have ever seen. Occasionally he strikes out. Host we appreciate your passion for the issues. We know our viewers want to weigh in as well. Lets keep our answers brief so we can get as many as possible. We begin with mike joining us from florida, republican line. Good morning. Caller good morning. I have a couple quick things i wanted to get over. I have seen mr. Weiss on television speaking be the untruths. Agome or you, not too long medical doctors prescribed or endorsed cigarette smoking. Just because someone says they are scientist, you really have to look and see where they are coming from. The majority of scientists, there is the 97 percent figure that is often pulled out, that is a lie. Anyone who wants to get involved at looking at the numbers rather than reading the rhetoric or propaganda can find that. Understand, there was a Global Warming. During the last ice age. If iwere correctly remember correctly there were no co2 emissions about time. There is also across the solar system right now the same trends in atmospheric temperature increases that you are addressing. I am pretty sure there is no one driving cars on jupiter. The theory is, and it is not a consistent concept throughout the scientific community, that andossibly is sunspots solar flares and those sort of things. When you look at the solution the extreme environmentalists are offering, they are pushing and trade that are from host i will stop you there. Well get a response. Guest first of all the caller mentioned the ice age. In fact there are is more Carbon Dioxide in our atmosphere than there has been in the last 800,000 years. Second, he mentioned that 97 of scientists who have written. Reviewed studies about Climate Change over the last 20 years, included concluded that Climate Change is real. 97 of those studies that were peerreviewed concluded that. You 97 doctors tell me better have that funny love on your lung checked out, and three say dont worry about, who are you going to listen to . And 97, not the three. The caller talked about cap and trade. You would be surprised to learn that cap and trade was invented by the Ronald Reagan administration. There the first ones to ever use cap and traded to reduce lead in our gasoline. It worked. It got as gasoline but at a much cheaper cost. That it was used to reduce sulfide dioxide pollution from power plants. Atin, the reduction occurred one third of the cost that was predicted and 1 10 of the cost that the industry said. Cap and trade was introduced by reagan and use more about bush. That is not the only way that people have to get reductions. There are efficiency manager measures, fuel switches. We need to reduce the Carbon Pollution now before levels in our atmosphere is sore beyond anything we have seen in the last several thousand years. Host you can get more information by logging onto the league of conservation voters website. It is lcv. Org. Of course there is also the Heritage Foundation, heritage. Or g. This is don. Don, good morning. Carle will move on to joining us from illinois. Good morning. Caller good morning. The great moral philosopher yogi berra once said it is hard to make production, especially about the future. I oftenhe things that have an conversation with people who believe in Climate Science is i say to them, you think that earth is going to warm dont you . And i say prove it. Science is climate not really science. Its modeling. You build a model and you protect the future. But of course it is impossible to prove. Science is really about testing hypotheses which you are able to prove or disprove. These arent really science and to say that the science is settled is completely preposterous. It is not science, it is model building. Host thank you. David kreutzer your response. Guest yes. State ok at the icc iccc, the doom and gloom productions are from modeling projections. Ccc, they have an ensemble of models. They cant even narrowed down to 10. If you plug those models in and from aboutng them 1990 and compare them to actual temperatures, right now the projections are so out of range that with 5 certainty you can say the models are not describing what is going on. The temperatures are less than half of what the projection was. That there is no impact from co2, which i think is wrong, are actually making more accurate production than models. Guest its interesting. Just like we dont know how many cigarettes europe to smoke before you get lung disease, we dont know how much Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere will lead to how much temperature rise. But we are already seeing the impact of Climate Change which is, for example, two inch Sea Level Rise over the last 20 years. There are glaciers on lands that are melting and straining into the ocean. Quick ls show slower glacial melts and we are actually were observing. The reality is, yes, we could wait until we have exact, 100 proof, but by that time it will be too late to act because there will be way too much Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere. Then we will be in a whole lot of trouble. Invest iny we need to clean energy, create jobs, Lower Energy Prices and buy insurance policies in case the 97 of the scientists are wrong and the 3 of scientists are right. Host 10 years ago we thought happened with hurricane katrina, one of the deadliest and most costly storms in the u. S. Mainland. Guest we can look at the trends. I have a chart here excuse me, i do not have the one on hurricanes but if you go to noahs site and look with the latest report, over the last century, there has been no trend in hurricanes. Yes, we are going to have a recordbreaking hurricanes with without co2 emissions. Theyre not going to stop regardless of what we do, so we can have talks about we dont know how many cigarettes cause cancer, but right now, we are not seeing any increase in hurricane activity. We are not seeing any increase in strength, they go up and down, up and down and the 1970s were a more violent that gave them we have had lately and we currently have had the longest drought in the recorded history of the United States of category three or higher of a hurricane making landfall, over eight years, i think nine years. That will stop. When it does, dan is going to say, see, we have Global Warming. Cornelia is next from idaho on the republican line. Good morning. Caller good morning. I probably have a little bit of a different take. I just would quickly mention that i have heard at least that iceland or greenland at one time was habitable and much more warmer than it is today back in the 1200s or 1300s, something in that neighborhood and that the earth was much warmer back in, so i do think there are trends that go up one way and they go down another way and it is all natural. I have also heard that i think canada, the actually added more Carbon Dioxide to the atmosphere than any human pollution ever could or advertise at this time. I do think that so much as a is calledming, now it Climate Change because they realize Global Warming has slowed down. It is actually politically motivated. There is something called club of rome, a global ink tank. They have admitted to using Global Warming as an impetus to reduce the population of the world. Host thank you. Dan weiss . Caller i dont know anything about the club of rome, but i do know that the caller is partially correct which is that in places with lots of organic land are like the peapod northern candidate or northern alaska or siberia where they are frozen tundras, as the earth thaw, those areas will and release Carbon Pollution, and that will heat up the planet and they will fall even more. It is a self reinforcing cycle and that is a real danger. It has not happened yet, but it is in the process of happening which is why we need to reduce u. S. And world light and missions. First, we have to do if you. We are traditionally the largest polluter in the atmosphere and we have to reduce our emissions and we need to work with other countries to get them to reduce their pollution as well which is also underway. Go to an underlying issue which is the cost of clean air rules. Kelly trust the epa to give us an accurate estimate of what these costs are because the Supreme Court disagrees . Caller look at your tax, no ideas of radical, but they detected a study and found that the claim power plant that would require utilities for the first time to reduce the Carbon Pollution. Right now, Carbon Pollution is completely uncontrolled and they can use as much of it and we will save the american homeowner about 45 billion in net electricity costs by 2030. 45 billion according to georgia tech. Not according to the epa. I think that is a pretty credible idea that we are going to save, but the other thing is the market is not free if other people have to pay the cost of activity. Right now, if you use utility that puts Carbon Pollution and that was becoming you do not pay the cost of that but other people do in terms of health early, immortality mortality or death, wildfires, another record wildfire season which is expected to get six times worse as the planet warms, all of these and other things are unpaid costs of Climate Change. Society is hanging and it is keeping the price of the dirtiest electricity artificially low. Caller ive got to on gu