Aimed at rolling back several obama era Climate Energy regulations. Congressman, remind us what that order targeted. Guest basically they target the Clean Power Plan which is a very strongly organized program that addresses Carbon Pollution in our Society Coming from our power plants. I think it is so important because its a major way to which islimate change a concept. The fact are in. Speak very strongly about the damage of Carbon Pollution and Greenhouse Gas emissions. We shouldnt deny those facts and we need to go forward with a plan that enables us to reduce carbon in our environment and work toward a carbon free economy. Because its good for the economy, absolutely prove it. Our publicddressing health, which is a strong prime value in our society or at least ought to be. Addresses National Security. It makes us stronger as a nation. Factors really speak to the values of our society and work toward the common good. Power planlean republicans have said is one of the main regulations behind what they have called a war on coal. Do you think bringing back cold jobs is a bad thing . That is afrom a town one industry town or at least was heavily dependent on the carbon industry. I saw what that devastation was about when they left town. Im very sensitive to the dependency that we have as regions, as communities. Types. Job industry however, we need a jobs plan. Not a coal plant in our society. We look at the impact on the coal industry. If there is a war on coal, its automation and it is certainly Natural Gas Prices have dropped significantly. We are in a competitive market now for how we see the energy needs of this nation. The facts speak for themselves. Jobsars ago we had 245,000 that have shrunk below 100,000. Today its probably under 75,000. All while producing 8 more cold. There is productivity going on through automation and job counts are going down because of the natural gas price dilemma for the coal industry. Colleague former stopped by the White House Briefing yesterday and talked about cold jobs. Coal jobs. Want to remind our viewers, republicans can call in on this segment 202 7488001. Democrats 202 7488000. 202 7488002. Already a caller on the line. Roger is in michigan. Caller good morning. Finally a subject i know i have a solution for. The first thing is im tired of this socalled energy. I have a sixth grade education and i have a little of alberting einsteins equals mc squared. Hasything that has mass energy. We are talking about electricity and how best to produce it. Ive only got a sixth grade education. But i remember hearing my children speak about science projects of hydrogen. Hydrogen. The most abundant element in the universe. When it is burned it produces heat. He operates the electric generators were talking about the most basic of human inventions. Are you talking about moving towards a Hydrogen Energy economy . Caller a Hydrogen Electric economy. Guest certainly. All of the innovation concepts are growing in number as we speak. President trump cuts deeply into our programs at the department of energy. Of darpa. Ld off they mimic that program for the sake of energy innovation. There have been partnerships that really developed new concepts. For the first time private sector has superseded public investment. It is eliminated by the president s actions, his transportation of his budget to the congress. That deals with Energy Sufficiency and renewable energy. These concepts are important because they are in clean. Innovative concepts. Look at the statistics from cold. We have stats that show if we move forward with their clean 3600y plan we can avoid premature deaths. 1700 heart attacks per year. 90,000 asthma cases. 300,000 days lost of school and work. These are staggering statistics that speak so forcefully to the need to have Public Health be a cornerstone of our energy plan. Here is the president s interior secretary. Environmentally its better to produce energy here under reasonable regulations than to watch it he produced overseas with none. Secondly, jobs matter. There is a social cost of not having a job. Communities, coal and mining and forestry are the only jobs. You can take it from the crow nation in montana. Said, if there is a war on coal it is a war on the crow nation. Cold jobs are the only jobs. And lastly, National Security. It is better to make sure we are not held hostage on our energy needs. Dont want my kids to have to fight for war over Energy Resources we have here. National security is critical in our energy picture. The world is safer when america is stronger. If it is notronger dependent on foreign sources for energy. I want you to pick up specifically on the National Security argument he made yesterday. Guest basically if we dont address Climate Change, which the president has pushed aside by his executive order, if we do not address it one of the most impacting areas is National Security. 43 or so experts recently put together a report. Including Homeland Security , Intelligence Community professionals, the Law Enforcement community all looking at the impact of Climate Change. They have recommended to him that it puts added risk in terms of strategic opportunities and requirements for the military and putting them at risk with further complicated situations. Its a perfect storm. You have diminishing land. Growing world population. Inability to grow food. Civil going to have strife, international strife. When he talks about National Security, we are and heads of the troubles of the world by not addressing Climate Change. Im not talking about a foreign agenda for energy supply. On ae trying to work situation that reduces our gluttonous dependency on fossil fuels. But the job growth in the clean energy economy. Jobs that have been developed, 2 million in the Clean Energy Efficiency area. The dwindling job count is in the coal industry. I dont know if they are stating a bottom line but i agree with. Enhancing our National Security and interNational Security and reducing our gluttonous dependency on fossil fuels. At the same time, they bury their heads in the sand with the fact that are out there. Ist congressman paul tonko the ranking democrat on the Energy Subcommittee of the energy and commerce committee. Eli is waiting in michigan on the line for republicans. Caller this gentleman has issued so many fallacies i dont know where to start. I dont know how to do them all. He is not familiar with the ice core science. Computer model. This is actual science. We have had Global Warming and regular cyclical patterns for the last 500,000 years. Radiative effect of co2 is diminished significantly at levels that we see right now. I would like him to look up the science related to that. This is actual science. John kerry himself said there is nothing we can do to stop Global Warming. Government give the more control over people which is essentially what this scam is. It gives them more control just Like Health Care and education. Guest any of us is entitled to our own opinion, but not our own set of facts. Row, the world gdp had increased this time 3. 1 while we continue to work away at Carbon Pollution reduction. The u. S. Stats are incredible. 1970, we saw air pollution and Carbon Pollution reduce by gdp increasedu. S. By 212 percent and private sector job growth increased by 88 . These are numbers that speak forcefully to cleaning up our environment. Pollution that impacts all of us with tremendously documented Health Care Statistics and at the same time being able to grow our economy. Host could you remind us what the Paris Agreement is . Brought International Community to the table led by the inspiration of president obama. Basically they committed to a 2025, theyy the year would reduce Greenhouse Gas emissions by anywhere from 26 to 28 based on a 2005 level. That was a great engagement of the world community. It enabled us to show powerful leadership. Because this is an international crisis. I would say even in the american scene, we are a downwind state. Whatever we do affects all of us. Certainly for those of us in the northeast there is a downwind impact. That effort along with richesting the 80 involvement of research looking through the leading economies in the world committed to investment in research that will allow us to come up with innovative concepts that will clean our environment internationally. Host without the Clean Power Plan regulations can we meet those commitments . It much morees difficult. We not only address the carbon situation, we also address Greenhouse Gases. Basically you have a sulfur dioxide reduction that is tremendous as is the nitrogen oxide reduction. All of these are important. Especially the one that speaks to me is 300,000 schooldays and workdays lost in our economy. That translates into a huge impact. If we implement this Climate Change plan i believe we see Health Benefits between 14 and 24 billion per year. That is a significant number for the american families. Host tom is a democrat in minnesota. Good morning. Caller good morning. This is like the longest argument there is and until we get people with big money of oil and stuff out of it, things are going to change here. Host what argument are you talking about . Climate change . Caller yeah. If you keep giving people billions of dollars, hiring people in power that own and profit,t of the high they dont want to change. Why would they change . You know. So what do we do . Guest i think a lot of industries have submitted on an international basis. We have locations around the world. A number of people. I have worked with the alliance for clean energy which is Major Industries involved with cleaning up their activities. People have joined in this fight because they submit to the notion of Climate Change. At the same time they are consumer their Consumer Base is demanding it. They want to know there is a green agenda associated with the planet. And with that industry and that product line. Host what do you say to those that say people who are pushing the green agenda are spending money on the politics of this to try and make the problem sound worse so you have to buy whatever they are selling . Guest the statistics argue against that. What you have is a deeply rooted conviction by 90 of the that thiscommunity indeed is destroying our planet, causing huge impact on Public Health, increasing our vulnerability as it relates to National Security and not enabling us to grow jobs. This whole mess of being a good steward of the environment, having sound stewardship of the environment, reducing Carbon Pollution and not being able to grow jobs is just that. A myth. The converse has been proven. Energyclean up our production and you clean up the environment, you are creating sounds jobs. Researched jobs. Jobs that implement these programs and maintain them. The numbers are very strong. We need a jobs plan in this country and i think the president by walking away from the Climate Change agreement from the Clean Power Plan agreement, these issues relating us in the right direction. Itll were submitted to that. There was a certainty and predictability for the business community. They were complying with a given goals. Think turning around and offering new directions is not what the country needs. Milton is waiting in chicago on the line for independents. Good morning. Caller good morning. I just wanted to reflect what you mentioned earlier in the Climate Change having an immediate effect on other aspects of the government and of our society. I just wanted to get your take President Trump, your view on regarding thene issue and the other thing i want to talk about is whether you chevron rule is applicable in this case. Should we leave it primary up to the doctors and scientists who are putting so much effort . Host did you get the question . Guest i think in terms of what i think of the president s work to date which is over a span of three months, i believe its a major setback for the environment. Certainly a major setback for job creation. Public Health Policy and Public Health outcomes and a setback for our strengthening of our National Security. I think these factors have been by a president wants to take us back to perhaps the turnofthecentury if not farther back. I think that is not visionary. It is not the sort of plan we require. For him to continue to offer false hope to some of these sectors of the economy or pretend that the numbers are rising when in fact they are dropping precipitously is a broken promise in a series of broken promises. Host were talking about the coal sector . Guest absolutely. Caller on good morning. About hope. I have no more hope. You didnt really answer totally how you feel about trump. Vince in stephen city, virginia. Good morning. Morning. Ood we met briefly last year at the Blue Water Navy rally and i appreciate the work you have done in the past for veterans. I feel that National Security and Environmental Concerns are inadequately addressed by congress each and every year as we see at least a dozen or more separate bills for toxic exposures affecting our nations military veterans and their families. See is oneld love to single bill that would address all toxic exposures and simultaneously address the amount of contamination that exists even within this country. Are reports of over 150 installations in the United States as determined by the epa as being contaminated. Are reports of over 150 installations in the united as you probably know, theres upwards of 27 million clowns pounds of tce underground as we speak. Some changee to see in congress this year as our veterans are dying and experiencing Rare Diseases from their toxic exposures. Guest thank you for your call. Its an effort to have a registry developed for those who had served in that given area to make certain that their health needs are met. Its why i am so vehemently opposed to what the president has done here in his budget with the epa. We need programs that will continue to work on air, water and soil contamination and those remediation programs that will address those concepts are all at risk. If not completely eliminated with this budget. That is a powerful blow to the communities across this country. Go0 or so employees and let with this proposal. Certainly not allowing us to speak forcefully to those changes that we need to make. You look at some of these executive orders including the stream protection rule that has guided areas like West Virginia thats an obama moved president obama moved forcefully because he had concern for eric communities. This is a move to address the coal companies. You say dump freely, casually. Dump your toxins and pollutants into the streams. And we have proven statistics that they cause birth defects, lung cancer, kidney disease. Putting the coal company the head of the coal community. And i think thats devastating. This environmental agenda or lack of it as portrayed in the budget by President Trump is alerting all of us the need to fight strongly for programs that address toxic elements that have affected everyone across the board including our veterans. John is a democrat in pennsylvania. Good morning. Caller i live in a county where there used to be 33 coal mines long before obama was president. Believe me, those mines are gone and they are not coming back. His false notion that hes going to bring the mines back, theyre not coming back. Its a matter of supply and demand. I think the people ought to be aware of that. I agree. Its also an issue of automation. When you saw those numbers come way down and production of coal going up at a coffin when cole has not reached you because the war on coal coming from the natural gas industry. It creates a perfect storm situation. Thats why we urge the president , have a jobs plan, not a cold plan. Make sure we have transition plans for the workers that are impacted by these Industry Sectors that are dwindling in numbers. From a town that was heavily reliant on a carpet industry. I know what it is to try and come back. Betever the solution might lets work on it. Lets not continue to provide false hope. Scientific integrity is important. I have a bill that we are going to un