, the author of the fourth way the conservative playbook for a lasting gop majority and hes here to discuss that book, as well as the republican strategy now that they control both the white house and congress. Thank you so much for joining us today. Young associates asked me, you been on before . I said, i was here before you were born, the transition show had proun hair, not white hair. It is an institution, happy to be on. Here. Glad you are lets talk about the fourth way, the title of the book, what does mean . Guest attention of the way. The first way was f. D. R. , build big, reagan, cut back at home and be aggressive abroad. Blairs, picked up by bill clinton to make liberalism way, ate and the fourth delivered to every republican member of the congress at their philadelphia retreat, all threw house, how to go big, what , go fast and marry President Trump wants, which is infrastructure spending, large navy, a wall, Regulatory Reform with what paul ryan and the is tax ans want, which reform and entitlement reform. The fourth way is marriage of republicanism with President Trumps agenda. Host who should read this book . Republicans or do you have another audience, as well . Audience. Ave another i want to know what is being done by the leaders. Liberals, they dont believe the first chapter of the book, about the 18 years ive spent on the children and familys commission could possibly exist. A lot of conservatives are compassionate conservatives, they want to help the poor rise, make sure people have healthcare. They just believe and i believe better, more in a efficient, more effective way than for example, the collapse obamacare has revealed. The transition is awkward, it is wayscult, there are better to do almost everything that president obama wanted to do in how do that. Y, host we discuss the new book hugh hewitt, democrats can call in 2027488000. Republicans 2027488001. 2027488002. Ts, strategies, these everything from the wall to fiscal conservatism. The idea of the wall, which is estimated will billion, yet 15 you have folks that have speaker ryan, who is known to be very fiscally conservative saying hes behind this. Is this a shift or do the two principles gel . Necessary. S President Trump made it the centerpiece of his campaign. A wall n arguing for across about half of the mexican u. S. Border, 2000 mile half unpassable anyway because of mountains and lakes, alf needs the barrier across the Mexican American border many times from southern california. It effective, visible expression of sovereignty. Dont think it ought to be a spark point between mexico and wall on mexico has a the southern border between the west bank and parts of israel, he wall saudi arabia is building, a wall in yemen, wall necessary hungaria, a wall house, they hite work for a reason and you care about the people on the inside, on the the people outside. It is expensive, but it is an opportunity and i discussed this the fourth way, i would like to see president oversee immigration overhaul. To china moment, detail it, by the way, i think singling it with spicers daca childrent the dont have to worry, young adults now, i dont think you will see sweeping deportations, except of crime commiters and ang members and people not desirable because of the violence they bring to society. I think you will see trump egularization and that will realign american politic when is he does that. Host in your book, you layout that you say republicans should have. Lets go through them. Increased spending on infrastructure. Increasing spending on overhaul. On resupply the military. Select the right justices and judges and allow the free market fl flourish. The t on that with immigration infrastructure with the wall. What about the military . Hat would you like to see there, President Trump going to today . T gone pentagon he will meet with general mattis. 350 nitive number for navy ship navy. I asked my friend, captain Jerry Hendricks and a man called fficer x and robert obrien, a law partner of mine to outline, how do you get from where we are depending how you counts the 350. And laid are specific out in the book. Ship building is the backbone of free trade and security of the sea. Were mayors time nation and have been from the founding. Getting to the 350 is massive. Repairing the Nuclear Deterrent is a major deal mentioned in the story this mes morning, what hell be talking with general mattis. Fighter aircraft up to 1400. Arine corps have to be expanded. A general, mel, tell me what the marine corps need. I put it out. Ot just someone that read too many tom clancy novels. I checked with the air force to me the outline and i way, ge in the fourth convene, vicemp to president and leaders of the Senate Armed Services committee have everyone in a room and say, sequester is over, this is what well build, when were going to build it. These are the states in which ell distribute the new ship building. Cant build replacement for the anywhere put ne where they are being built. You can build new things in reenergize laces and American Industrial base in the process. Policy and ilitary the 15 billion dollar wall are going to cost a lot of money. You propose you pay for it . Guest and even more. 5 one tenth of what president obama got. Trump can do it. Entitlement reform. Doesnt want to do entitlement reform. The big deal, ill be talking this morning. Give President Trump has nfrastructure, his wall, his navy, his regulatory overhaul, in return, the deal maker gives and Mitch Mcconnell entitlement reform and it is not that hard and shouldnt be scary. Raise retirement age gradually o 70, unchain the cost of living adjust frment inflation, you test social security, do block grant medicaid and make hanges to medicare as outlined by paul ryan. It will pay for itself with Corporate Tax rate cut from 20 15 or lower and paul ryan suggested, speaker ryan said, sixmonth window where the repatriation rate will 7 . S low as 2 trillion in american profit stranded abroad. Outline this in the book f. It comes home, well bank a lot of abroad. Randed host joined by hugh hewitt, way, and the fourth with adio talk show host the Salem Radio Network and law professor at Chapman School of commentator on msnbc and cnn. Now during the campaign, at one point, you were not always supportive of now President Trump. Drop int you suggested he out after the access Hollywood Tape was released. You a anged in what made supporter . Was always with him well, i put this in the book. Did the president ial debate, i was neutral. Interviews and didnt endorse anyone. Andidate trump became nominee, i supported him. I was critical during the judge episode and believed it was like into the mountain and that approach, not the president , but that approach was to be cancer and needed treated. He stopped, i got back on the trump train. With clark, jon joight, dennis prager, worked around the clock until access hollywood came out. That stunned me. Pretty conservative, atholic evangelical presbyterian. It stunned me, i asked him to step aside. He didnt. If there was e more. There wasnt o. Election day, i voted for him proudly. Happy he won because of the courts and defense and reth latory overhaul and pleased with first week. Ive said Many American guess to went ts, most recently i to see jackson brown. This was like a concert with a now a bad songs and concert with three bands playing at the same time. To oisy i dont know what think. Im focusing on what hes doing and hes doing good things and i the Supreme Court nomination next week. From west palm bea good morning. Caller good morning. Im a fan of yours. You mentioned your book, five points you think the gop has to have for success, etc, and with all due respect, i think you one, d the most important which is parental rights and education of children. Betsy devos is up for secretary of education, shes rochoice, etc, but over the years ive read republicans talk about what they believe School Things o be and it is like in the Public School system, like more charters. You dont have religious option for school choice, have you no school choice. Schools right now are secular, humanistic, whatever to have, someone like me, catholic, like you said offends me to have to pay for those schools that run down my religion and i dont free exercise clause. I mean, this thing is a disgrace. Prem eminent the issue for the republican party. Thank you. Guest thank you, dennis. Im on the board of great heart schools in arizona, public charter. Charter schools, public and private and i like the fact the governor of arizona credit for tax people giving directly to catholic private schools. Choice talk about school much in the fourth way the conservative playbook for a lasting gop majority because it federal issue. Education is a state issue and local issue and ought to be that way. I believe very much in what you allowing people to support their local Catholic School through things like the arizona credit and through things like private vouchers and have been s, which upheld by the Supreme Court. This comes in play in the judges and judicial selection. 103 vacancy in addition to the Supreme Court vacancy. If originists go in and appropriately understood and nterpreted by the court, i believe you will find that trump udges will be upholding every Voucher Program passed at the state and local level consistent ith the free exercise clause and the establishment clause. Ennis, let not your heart be troubled, help is on the way. School reform is local level, not federal level. Host you mention the supreme the president will make his announcement next week. You have seen the list of people that he has drawn up with help conservative groups. What do you think of them . They are not all the same, either in terms of background or ideology. Included 21 judges put on the list. When he resident trump was a candidate, if you nominate someone not on this list, is Mitch Mcconnell justified in bottling it up . He said, absolutely. I will stick with the list. They are all originalist. Judge straus, 42, some are old, justice, Supreme Court 66, different colors and different genders. Allegedly, the tenth circuit judge and judge both fine jurors, both amazing. I just read their opinions. Of the udge kelly military court of appeals, notre grad. Extraordinary choice. Is irish, notre dame, im getting confused. Willet, is a friend. Id love if he were nominated. 11th circuit,f the very traditionalist catholic, juryist. Narily gifted all good. I want one to get up there. I know they will be we will invoke the reid rule. Thank you to all the democrats reidmachlt jority vote for nominees and judges and be ices and they will confirmed. Host robert calling from georgia on the democratic line. Hi, robert. Caller hi, thanks for taking my call. You seem quite pleased with sold out at you military, highranking military what a that told you, surprise, this is what we need to do to get our military in order. Familiar with the chicken commercial for the caffey family that owns chick illet, it says eat more chicken. What did you expect the general to say . There is an awful lot of military. Militarys on 12 the face of the earth, spend ess, total than we do on our military. What do we do with it . Use it everywhere we decide to use it. State of war. Ant why dont you talk to people who ave less involvement in the military who want to spend less on the military and more on the people . Thank you. Guest robert, great question. Good comment. Need resume, i assume we an 80. And oceans havent gotten maller from when president reagan almost had 600 ship navy. We dont need a 600 ship navy. In the military, inside nd outside, the pentagon, people like jim talent, lots of civilians look at the oceans in and understand that free commerce and freedom of navigation require at least 350ship navy. We have 272282, depending how count, especially if you are a peaceloving person, you want freedom of the seas, especially dont want to have to go to war, keep the American Navy afloat, maned with marines, manned with aircraft, f18s and updated, if you want peace, you prepare for war. Strepth, reagan policy, Donald Trumps policy. It works tochlt avoid conflict, biggest military, by far, navy equipped for the size of the ocean. Eddie from marlboro, massachusetts. Eddie. Orning, caller good morning, folks. Big fan of yours. Almost hung up, you kind of stole my thunder. My question is about the Supreme Court. Called in toago, i the journal and steve was on and question, what do you think the most important issue s going to be to face the next president . I think it was after scalia primaries efore the were over. I thought, inequivocally, i didnt have to think at all, i was the Supreme Court. I dont want to filibuster myself, so i guess my question is what do you see as the est case and worst Case Scenario and maybe if you could, give an order that you think judges might step down. I think obviously the key one for conservatives would be kennedy. I was under the impression he might have been hanging on the eight years for the job isnt a republican, trump conservative, but a republican did get in, so we would have his obviously, hes closest to the one that straddles the fence. F you could answer those two questions. I look forward to picking up your book, i havent read it. Up the of yours and keep good work for the conservative cause. On it. You zoomed in i hope you get the book n. The fourth way i talk about Justice Kennedys resignation this june. The reason i believe this, he legacy on federalism. Jurisdiction is deep and wide federalism. He has judicial legacy on samesex marriage, i do not disturbed by e five member originalist supreme outlined by asons chief justice roberts. And i discuss battle royal with priscilla, she thought i was being too legal. A chief justice wrote concurring opinion in the case, which ted explains the judicial doctrine of what you keep and what you dont keep and when you overturn. He explained why in my view, not his view, my view, will not be overturned by originalist Supreme Court, but roe v wade be. Ld the best Case Scenario and i ont expect the Court Liberals to retire and judge ginsburg was on the dc circ sxit my judge got sick, i wish her the best. Justice kennedy would retire this june and we have a fivemember originalist court. Any other ect retirements from the left wing or the court. Host what makes you think, one say you hope he does, a ot of liberal folks wanted ginsberg to retire before president obama left office. Mulling e kennedy . Etirement dpeekt guest no signs. My only belief is that the Ruth Bader Ginsburg example, she did not retire and she was expecting secretary clinton to win and would have retired and had a replacement. To stay nt your legacy n tact, Justice Kennedy likes federalism legacy. The numbers are prorepublican in 2018, 25 democrats are up, eight republicans, people like john ester are going to lose, bob casey. Ohio is going to lose probably mandel, the secretary. We will get more, but we wont get 60. Kennedy is tice aware to make sure his seprotected. Egace host you warned recently the resident, who you support, is on thin ice. You talked about the idea of he told be impeached, according the post. You said, the idea of impeachment of President Trump hardly a fantasy. If President Trump proves reckless, he will be impeached, tryd and removed. He would be impeached, tried and removed. And did you mean by that what is the likelihood you think of impeachment . Chapter of the fourth way is about impeachment, the precedence, the impeachment, clinton impeachment. What did hamilton write about it . Republicans proved they are willing to impeach one of their krupgcorruption, i dont think there is going to i dont of power, think there will be. He would be impeached by his party. I was interviewed y katie couric, she asked my biggest fear. It is that the house switch in 2018 in a change election, as we 2010, 2014, 2006, they ats in control, emullument clause i dont believe it has been violated. Exchange on the assessment that it has been violated. I read council don mcgan, and fielding, my old boss at he white house, astutely said democrats would impeach the majority. T the message to congress, go big, go far, go fast, so you dont thrown out. I remember former Speaker Boehner sitting in my studio in assuring me it was impossible to lose the house because of redistricting. House. T the the American People want things done. If the republicans dont give he ident trump what campaigned on and what conservatives like me expect him o do, they could lose that majority and he would be on constitutional thin ice. Sword the democrats would use. Ost hugh hewitt, radio talk the ost and author of fourth way the conservative playbook for a lasting gop majority. Also, you hold various posts reagan he administration, including Deputy Director and general counsel for the office of personnel management, general counsel for the nal endowment for humanities and assistant white House Counsel and special attorney to the general. Speaking of the National Endowment for humanities, that s something that could be on the chopping block in trump are your tion, what thoughts about that . Guest i would be sorry to see