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Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 20161025



at c-span.org. the obama administration has said that people will see their rise -- see their rates rise by as much as 25%. sylvia burwell says subsidies will be able to assist with those. we will talk about the projected increases. we want to hear from you in two categories. if you receive insurance under the aca, give us your thoughts on (202) 748-8000. everyone else, (202) 748-8001. if you want to post on our website, our webpages -- you could do our twitter page or post on our facebook page. several of these stories appearing in the paper and in the pages of politico, it says -- obama premiums are set to jump 25% for a certain sector of those who receive their health care plan. it goes on to say that premiums for a crucial category of obama care plans on healthcare.gov will rise by 25% on average next year. that is more than three times larger than this year's price increases. that is from the obama administration on monday. by comparison, average prices for the second cheapest soma level plan, use as a benchmark to determine premium subsidy levels, had increased by just 7.5% on average in the 2016 and 2% in 2015. here to let us know a little bit more on how these increases are happening and how they came the executive editor for politico. thank you for joining us on the phone. hi, the executive editor for health care. i'm happy to answer all your -- all your own obamacare questions. insurancembination of underpricing initially and now raising prices. policy decisions that have ended up showing up this and decisions for insurers to leave the exchanges as well as price fixes and republicans have been blocking this all along, including payments that insurers expected. and without the payments, which was supposed to cushion them with the first three years, it was something like $2.5 billion that they didn't get, and that is showing up for the premium increases. and drug prices have gone up. some of thes that increases would rise as high as 25%, is that just for the silver plan? plan: it is the silver benchmark. to avoid making everyone go dive under their bed again, this is what everything is based on. there are different tiers in the marketplace you can choose. are pegged, the subsidies that many people get, people are not paying the sticker price. the subsidies are linked to the silver plan, a comprehensive plan. you will find that some are going up more but some are going up less. host: as far as the things that i have read this morning, some of the increases very from state to state, as well? guest: yes. state to state and within state. i think we may have -- andt: tennessee is up california is having problems. higher than it had been the first two years. the california has been a pretty successful state. there are a few that have been in the tooth percent-3%. 2%-3%. so there are outliers. feasible number. host: the story that you have on the website of politico this morning has a line that says federal health officials confirmed that roughly one in five people in the states that use healthcare.gov must chop for only one insurer following decisions by several major insurers to pull back. guest: yes. it made headlines this spring went -- said they were getting out of most exchanges. and two or three other big insurers -- humana cut back. so there is less competition. there are some new entrance and some new insurers who expanded the footprint this year. for good?hey out will they come back in a year? we don't know yet. co-ops, that the started with taxpayer money, most of them have failed. so i think it is around 20 that are no longer in the market. were supposed to add a nonprofit competition but they did not work in most states. i know it is hard to predict but went from an --rease in 2% to 7% to 25% do we see these increase in the future years as well? guest: i think advocates of the plan would tell you this is a catch up. that's insurers were priced too low in the initial year, partly because they didn't understand. they wanted to get the customers and then keep them. and they also didn't understand -- no one could have known work who was going to sign up. know, younger people have not signed up. so there is an older, sicker population getting coverage. it is too soon to know. advocates say this is a catch appear and they would like the new congress and president to try to address some of these problems and a smooth things out. and you are beginning to see some states looking at what they can do at the state level. alaska has taken some steps to shore up the exchange. a very red state but they have decided to do something. minnesota is talking about what he can do. i think it really is too soon to in awhat it will look like year, but certainly you can't say it never will happen again. critics say it will get worse and worse but advocates will to you that it is a rough year and we will fix things by next year. when do the rates become effective? guest: he start signing up next week. november 1 is open enrollment is important to know that the maturity of the people in the exchange do get subsidized. for people who are eligible coverage who aren't signing up, they either don't have a subsidy or they don't have enough of a subsidy. there are also people of their who are still confused by the affordable care act. and you read the headlines about the enormous price increases when they might actually be eligible for a subsidy but they don't check because they are scared by the sticker price. the affordability question is not made up -- most people who are currently covered will get subsidized. they will not be paying these prices. there are people out there who are facing an expense, an increase in expense. those of us who get covered on the job, there are changes in the health care system and how employers structure our insurance. not everything can be blamed on obamacare. as my insurance goes up at work, there are other factors in the health care system at stake. pricier, is getting for many people. host: for number of reasons. from politico early this morning to explain and walk through the announcement yesterday, we appreciate your announcement this morning. with that in mind, if you wanted to talk about the increase and the potential subsidies and other aspects of these announced changes that were made by the obama administration yesterday, here are the phone numbers. if you receive your insurance .hrough the aca, (202) 748-8000 all others, (202) 748-8001. post on twitter as well. we start this morning with deborah in ohio on the line for others. go ahead. caller: good morning. thank you. one of my biggest challenges with the affordable care act was not looking at the cost of health care and not asking that question first. so i did research and looked at the cost of trauma, disease and wellness. and what i found is that we would spend $500 billion a year on basically five choices. the longnce, association states that we spend $151 billion a year on smoking-related disease. and many of us have family members who would have emphysema or something and can understand how costly that terrible ole miss is. for people who drive under the influence of alcohol or drugs, we spend $35 billion a year on treating trauma. so that totals up to $500 billion a year. over 88,000 rapes in the united states. in drugs for the prevention hiv in a case like that, 50%, $2000. 45,000 women who are taking drugs while they are pregnant. when you look at gunshot wounds and trauma and surgery and devisewith that, a total of 500 billion dollars into how much it costs each of us. we are looking at $125 a month per person. host: john is next from missouri on the line for others. caller: good morning. i should have called in on the others' line. i just dialed my normal number. all i have to say is -- here we go again. we are talking about insurance prices. but we should be talking about is the cost that the hospitals charge the insurance companies. i just spent two days in the hospital. from walking pneumonia. i got a bill the other day from my emergency room and on the room,t says -- emergency one hour. wasmy 20% after medicare $1400. which means it cost me close to $6,000 -- or, cost medicare and me, $6,000 for one hour at the emergency room. ofhave to look at the cost the hospitals, doctors, pharmacies. these are the people who drive the cost up. instead of keeping looking at the insurance companies, that is what we have to look at. why are these people going from a community hospital, which we used to have here, to a medical group. .ost: gotcha again, two lines. if you are under the aca, (202) 748-8000. everyone else, (202) 748-8001. mclean, virginia who receives insurance under the aca, how are you? caller: thank you for having this conversation. my concern is that most people think the affordable care act is free. i have to pay for my doctor's. and there is a premium on there goes undere bill $1000, it comes out of my pocket. $1000, i'm covered. but most people think it is free. it is not free. what your last caller said makes a lot of sense. if i broke my ankle cutting the grass and i had to pay for every ankle visit -- a broken here in mclean would cost something different than west virginia. somethingost different in florida. and he's right. the biggest problem that we have is the gouging within the hospitals. whether it is gouging the government or the patient. -- there should be a set price for everything. host: what plan do you currently get? what level? caller: i was lucky. i got in on the program where package, a premium because i got a subsidy. they gave me a subsidy for it to outweigh the cost. so i got a high profile package, the best one they have. at an affordable rate. but the same time, the coverage does not kick in -- you are -- i'm payingor for peace of mind. if i get hit by a car, i have coverage. host: how long have you had the plan and have you seen the rates go up? is my first year. i had to get on it because i work for myself. and it was a great idea and i did need it. that i kept putting it off. and i had to get on it because the penalties were killing me by not having it. so i was forced to get on it. and i like it. unfortunately, it serves me no purpose. colorado, is next in gets insurance through the aca. go ahead. caller: thank you for bringing up this conversation. this is my second year going on obamacare, i have the silver plan. and my rates are going down. down one dollar but the coverage is the same with the same insurers. and when i saw the headline, what struck me is that it seems like the rate increase -- showing the number of 25% -- i'm assuming because they are government held? they went through state exchanges? so it seems that they are for the republican states that didn't accept the exchanges. here in colorado, we have an exchange and mina staying the same. and with any luck, this november will pass colorado cares which would give free health care to anyone in colorado was no deductibles and no co-pays. host: how will that get funded? [laughter] caller: big taxes. but for as much as they want to raise the taxes, my co-pay and my deductible at the doctor would cover it. it is in big of an increase. so i challenge everyone to figure out to see how much are premiums are and add in the deductibles and co-pays and tell me that is not a higher percentage than the 6% or 7% tax they want to charge us. plan, what isur your premium and deductible? caller: my premium is $65 a month. my deductible is $2000 and they , my up -- excuse me deductible is $500. i had a physical and i had to pay $150. and i needed something else that was one edge of $50. dug talking about his experience. we are asking you for yours in the light of the announcements. you get your0 if insurance through the aca and others, (202) 748-8001. ron in arizona on the others line. morning. caller: i have a couple of comments. there are 238 million people in but only astates handful of people on insurance. my premium has doubled to $138 a month. downow it is only going eight dollars. so it is going down but it had doubled. and this is insurance that you get through work? no, private insurance. lives in north carolina. how are you? caller: good morning. obamacare and i pay $64.33 a month and the subsidy from the tax is about $940. -- i have a $500 across-the-board deductible. two years ago i got very sick and it did me good. but i do want to get on medicare because i will be an old college dger in a month. so i will get on medicare. but if you have a premium rate from $65-$100, and your premium $3000-four thousand dollars and you are working and you didn't get a raise in 10 years, it is still unaffordable. if you end up looking at it, ,1000 a month for insurance young kids say they will get a fine of $300. $1200 -$300 is $900 savings. so i get it. trump, you cannot drop it at a dime. you can't do it because you would put people in a bind. it isn't going to work. host: are you surprised by the rate announcements in the last week? caller: not really. i used to have mail business. if you earn $10 that he spent eight dollars to earn $10, you have to do that. carolina, they -- when their contract was up. so everybody is entitled to insurance. everyone is entitled to live well. -- and notbout having to worry about their children getting sick. the country is rich enough, strong enough and they can do it if everyone gets their head out of dark places. rates are going up on some affordable care act insurance plans. we are getting your thoughts on that. if you get insurance through the aca, (202) 748-8000. all others, (202) 748-8001. we will look at some campaign related stories. the new york times, a story taking a look at a rally from hillary clinton. featuring senator elizabeth warren. wanteadline is "liberals more and to push clinton to left." -- polls and early voting signaling that hillary clinton is likely to prevail against trump in two weeks, democrats are looking past election day and rely on elizabeth warren to become the thorn in chief in mrs. clinton's side, scrutinizing her agenda. our websitethat on at c-span.org. here's a little bit of senator elizabeth warren yesterday. >> donald trump disrespects aggressively more than half the human beings in this country. he thinks that because he has money, he can call women sat bimbos. and a thinks that because he is celebrity, he can rate women's bodies. he can force himself on any women within groping distance. well, i have news for you donald trump. women have had it with guys like you. [applause] and nasty women have really had it with you. [laughter] >> get this, donald. nasty women are tough. are smart. and nasty women vote. [laughter] [applause] 8, we nastyvember women are going to march our st ourfeet to ca nasty vote to get you out of our lives for ever. [applause] that was elizabeth warren yesterday. here is the usa today story. vaying that health care.go handles individual insurance sales for those who live in the 38 states that don't have their own exchanges. the second lowest cost silver plan on the exchanges is the benchmark plan on which regulators based tax credits. from missouri. caller: i want to explain to everybody. ,hen obama health care came in none of the governors wanted it. none of the senators cared. but now, they have to pay. make one point million dollars, you have to pay the full price. they care about themselves. that is all i have to say. you know in 2010 when they started this, you were against it. have a good day. you leave, will you see your rates increase under this announcement? gone. let's hear from dan. the line for others. taking myank you for call. i am not signed up for obamacare. think it is unconstitutional. i am a fireman here in new york. i have heard some sayings about if you go on obamacare and you can't afford to pay it, and the end, they will take land away from you. eventually. because right now there is no way i can afford obamacare. i am an exterior farmer. dairy market took -- it is in horrible shape. they have been getting rid of .armers wherever they can i don't know too much about obamacare. unlike like i said before, i want to fight it. next in fallsup church, virginia who gets his insurance under the aca. caller: i have been self-employed with a family of four. we have had our own health insurance the last 15 years. the deductibles have sadly gone up. a bronze plan currently. last to the premium was $1200 proposing an, $1800 a month monthly premium. i'm not sure why the huge increase. my son broke his arm last year and we exhausted the deductible but i don't know otherwise why the drastic increase. but i'm very happy the affordable care act past. wasn't health insurance reform. companies, they are pay agents in my mind and it should be health care reform. to in my mind, it has to go a single-payer and if you want to supplement that with a paid plan on top of it, that is the way to go. host: so you said your current premium is 1200, what is your deductible? we have catastrophic care only. so the deductible is $5,000 per person. the new rate, the $1800, that is the rate for 2017? caller: correct. that is what they are proposing but that is care first. i will look into alternatives. host: we hear next from fred joining us from massachusetts on the line for others. caller: this guy before me stole my thunder. after hearing the guy from a $65 plan that went down the dollar to $64. and people complaining that they went from $138. i'm in the same boat as the other guy. year and $1875st this year. i think that is spot on, a 25% increase. $20,0002000 -- that is a year on health insurance. i'm self-employed. i thought we were the only ones virginia, we are in the same boat as you guys. got $6,000 per person and get this. in order for my $22,000 a year spendo act and, i had to 20 $4000 of my own money -- $6,000 per person -- you have to spend $24,000 to get it to kick in? so it is a catastrophic plan, which is what we had before the aca but it was only $600 a month or $550. what blue imagine cross blue shield costs. that has to be 3000-4000 dollars a month. host: a few stories in the paper are taking a look at election day a few days away. looking at polling places across the united states. the new york times reporting that the justice department will have far fewer watchdogs in thatng places, saying because of a supreme court ruling, the department will send special election observers inside polling places in parts of only four states on election day, a significant drop from 2012 when it sent observers to jurisdictions in 13 states. to onlys will be sent one state in the south where he history of discriminatory voting practices once made six states subject to special federal scrutiny. -- they willnd send monitors outside the states.places in 25 but unlike the specially trained election observers, monitors are not allowed inside unless local election officials invite them. journal talkst about how various campaigns are gearing up for what might happen on election day. trump's campaign is leaning on the republican national committee and state parties for recruiting parties and other preparations, hillary clinton's campaign is preparing to address intimidation voter and to help people navigate tighter voting roles in several gop led states. become more of a priority and political campaigns. lawyers are needed to respond to unexpected complications as voters go to the polls and to stay on top of any potential recounts. adam is next on the line for others. go ahead. hey, pedro. thank you for having me. say what has come up here -- people can't even afford their deductibles. people who get the subsidy and get income from the government, they can't afford the $500,000 -- the $5,000 deductible. the jennifer met from massachusetts has to spend over $20,000 for his a double before it kicks in? that is insane. no one can afford this. but the divide i see is between people who get the subsidy and people who don't. and the people who don't get the subsidy are not millionaires. these people are primarily owners or managers of businesses. i am a manager of a business. and we try to pay -- i have to pay out-of-pocket because i don't get a subsidy. and mine has gone up in two plan in had a cadillac my 20's that was $125 a month. cheap as can be. now, two years later, it has increased 100% almost each year. i have a huge seductive will. , this year, almost $5,000 more than before obamacare started. and will probably be paying almost $7,000 out of more for a plan that is horrible. host: let's hear from jimmy in greensboro on the line for others. jimmy from north carolina? chris in illinois on the line for others. caller: good morning. i was just remembering before the affordable care act, everyone is forgetting how insurance was just going up and up every year. and everyone was complaining then. we always seem to forget. and i would like to note that medicare is not the same today as when it first came out. it had to be fixed and corrected. thank you. again, we are talking about the rate increases announced by the obama administration yesterday. if you want to call in, we have two lines this morning. (202) 748-8000 if you get insurance through the aca. (202) 748-8001 for all others. in the washington post, taking a look at election day, various right in campaigns going on. during this month's scramble to back away from gop presidential nominee donald trump, republican senators have said they would write in the name of mike pence for president. evan mcmullen, the independent candidate will be an official write in candidate in most of the country. according to data released by google, searches for right in's write-in's have spiked since the washington post release of the 2005 recording of donald trump. one problem. write in votes are not treated the same as filled in balance. a misspelling or an alternate name would not be tallied. john.get to he gets his insurance from the aca. actually, i get mine through my work. i called in on the wrong line and i apologize. i wanted to comment on the last statement i heard. which was the gentleman who was a manager. talking about how his insurance has changed and how he had a cadillac plan. and now he doesn't have that. and his big issue was people receiving subsidies and other people don't and he was saying he didn't want anybody to receive subsidies because he wasn't getting it. which does make sense. but i think we should all unite and work so that we can get medical coverage. medical support. insurance is great. if we get our arms broken, we want to get our armed taking care of. we want the medical support. look into some other kind of system. per use or something. we should try to work together instead of putting ourselves and into -- ourselves different groups of who gets subsidies and who doesn't. we can have a better outcome. the: larry from maryland on line for others. go ahead. small business owner and i do not have obamacare. when we have seen is our rates going up steadily and obamacaretly when started. this year, our rates have stayed flat. i pay $1600 a month for family care. with a $5,000 deductible. reason, i believe, that the rates have stayed flat is because they finally figured out that they cannot fund obamacare on the backs of small businesses. be that the obamacare was much less expensive than the care that i was paying for. and as soon as obamacare was implemented, our rates kept increasing significantly. and now that they are raising the rates with obamacare, our rates are staying stable. so somebody has to pay for it. somebody is paying for it. there is no such thing as a free care. and up until now it had been on the backs of small businesses that areorporations big enough that they are not affected by the rates, they have the statistics in their favor. which is what drives the rates. so essentially, what i'm saying is, now that finally obamacare is starting to go up, when they realized that they could not at the ratesh care on the backs of small businesses. and this is the first year that we have not increased. ita small business owner, has been our single biggest expense increase every year for the past at least five years , when it hasar stayed even. familiar withre washington lingo, the term k street is synonymous with the street here in the district of columbia where a lot of lobbying firms have set up shop. the washington post says they are looking at the election through their lens saying that every four years, washington's culture of lobby works overtime. they all want to know the same thing -- how do we best press a new president and congress. many firms are reporting year-over-year revenue gain compared with 2015. angress is poised to tackle handful of issues critical to is this community such as immigration, tax efficient and him for structure spending. good morning. how are you? thest wanted to bring up theme of increase premiums. i used to pay $500 for the whole family. after the aca, the premium has gone up and it is $1200. a not sure why it has increased or how. i think he is breaking up so let's go to gym in illinois who gets his insurance through illinois -- through the aca. caller: we were on it the first year. the first year was last year for us. we were paying $500 a month. and the insurance companies wouldn't even pay for my wife's prescriptions, some of my prescriptions. and then we found out, we took money out of the 401 k to buy a motor home, and we ended up having to pay all of our insurance back, because we went over the $52,000 limit. so we had to pay $10,000 back in insurance and we can't afford $10,000. that is ridiculous. needs to be done is to drop all these insurance companies. and let the hospitals take care of it. they could be their own insurance companies. that is the way i look at it. every hospital. they take care of all the bills. and wiped the insurance companies out. effort made by the trump campaign to go on television, so to speak. the of the technology on facebook live. trump tv launches a pilot with a pitch to the candidates base. .hink it is a new live show they painted a rosy picture of the election two weeks away with the campaign manager saying that "unequivocally, we will win." of theerviewers were two gop nominee's campaign advisers. hosting the inaugural edition of an online show. the "nightly campaign coverage" had some of the hallmarks of a newscast. set for 6:30 p.m. each night running up against network tv news. there was a new scroll at the bottom and there was a button to donate to donald trump's campaign. monday setting was the trump war photo of thelarge real estate mogul hovered behind the anchors heads. we go now to the line for others. caller: hi, good morning. how are you? listen, i actually had employer-based insurance until i had a bad injury. then, i was on medicare and a supplemental aca plan. and one thing that i think is wrong or that is talked about incorrectly is the aca versus insurance. it is not aca driving the costs. it is the insurance companies that are based on a profit driven margins. they have been making record profits while raising rates. but the aca try to implement techniques to push costs down. managed to increase coverage. but what they are still struggling with because the ac -- because health insurance is profit driven -- they're still struggling with the competition aspect. i think we need more control on eating able to control how much profit is made out of how much is made from being sick. you can't blame it on the affordable care act. they are two separate things. also, the protections that have been put in place are immeasurable. in helping people leaps and bounds actually live while republicans have been trying to dismantle the aca as much as they can through congressional means. and they have succeeded. so i think once we look at a common plan of -- let's get people covered and let's make sure peoplet's make don't get sick and going to bankruptcy, and let's make it affordable. host: i want to show you a follow-up story in the new york times this morning from a story that took place in the los angeles times, taking a look at efforts to return enlistment bonuses. saying that it highlights the story of one of nearly 10,000 national guard men who have been ordered to repay enlistment bonuses and other incentives told out during the wars in iraq and afghanistan after an audit uncovered widespread fraud and overpayment by the guard in the state. some of the troops have been trying unsuccessfully for years to get out from under the debt and many are struggling to repay it. the los angeles times found years of appeals had not brought relief. enquests for help have be unanswered. the person who was profiled had to roll the debt into his mortgage to make ends meet. others government credit and face stiff penalties for missing payments. we hear from gabriel in north carolina on the line for others. caller: good morning. north carolina is a battleground state coming up. there is a lot at stake here as far as health care goes. i want to give a little bit of background. what that lady just said. i think that was pretty close to spot on. -- theordable care act accountable care organization. and that is targeted at upstream factors that we don't focus on enough. so if you don't tackle the main -- one third of our population is obese -- and that is morbidly overweight, and ,e allow this to continue whereas people in europe hold each other accountable through chair organizations and also through -- it is like the thing with the police officers and the community. on all the burden can be put the institutions and the medical providers. there has to be accountability to the people who overeat. please don't cut me off. let me just say this. we also are one of the only countries that has an employer driven health care subsidy. in most countries, that is considered to be a conflict of interest. host: we have to leave it there. we appreciate the call. battleground states are the focus this week on "the washington journal." today we take a look at the battleground state of iowa. several guests are joining us through the morning. they give us their perspective on the state and political makeup and how the presidential candidates are doing and other things related to that. first up we hear from jason noble, a chief political reporter. he joins us next to set the stage as far as our discussion. later on, we hear from danny horman -- danny homan. a look at what is going on in the state as far as commercials, here are some of the ads from the presidential campaign that iowans are seeing on a regular basis. >> rebuild the american dream. tax relief for the american working people. peace of mind for working families. childcare of $5,000 reduction and paid maternity leave. expanding competition by allowing people to purchase coverage across state lines. this is the blueprint. this is the builder. >> i am donald trump and i approve this message. ♪ clinton: this is not an ordinary time and it is not an ordinary election. i want to send a message to every boy and girl, and to the entire world, that america already is great. and we are great because we are good. we are going to lift each other up. i want us to heal our country and bring it together. we had to start getting the economy to work for everyone. not just those at the top. making the best education system from preschool through college, making it affordable. because that is the best way for us to get the future that our children and grandchildren deserve. my vision of america is an america where everyone has a place. this is the america that i know and love. and we gothose goals together, there is nothing that america can't do. i am hillary clinton and i approve this message. hillary clinton won't change washington. she has been there for 30 years and taxes went up and jobs vanished. with washington insiders thriving. donald trump will turn washington upside down on day one. real change that puts americans first. is ae for hillary clinton vote for more of the same. i'm donald trump and i approve this message. >> "washington journal" continues. host: we happened focusing on battleground states this week. we started with north carolina yesterday and for the remainder of our week, starting tomorrow we focus on a pennsylvania on wednesday. florida on thursday. ohio on friday. today, we focus on iowa. we talk about what is going on with six electoral votes up for grabs. joining us now from des moines his jason noble, the chief political reporter for the des moines register. good morning. on why give us your take you think iowa is a battleground state this year? well, we have a pretty competitive presidential race here. love candidates have devoted a lot of time and resources and personal appearances to the state. the on that, we have close congressional races. that could help determine the makeup of congress. it deftly is competitive and we definitely are feeling like there is a lot of attention being placed on the state. host: when it comes to iowa's history, does it lead republican or democratic and is it changing? guest: 80 usually close. you look back at presidential politics over the last couple of decades, democrats have typically one. george w. bush won in 2004 at besides that, going back to the 1980's, democrats have typically one here. that it might be changing. obama's second term, approvals have been way down. the 2014 election was good for republicans. the one across the board. -- they won across the board. it comes to donald trump running ahead, how are his numbers doing poll wise and otherwise compared to hillary clinton? guest: we haven't seen a poll for a couple of weeks here. the latest one was the des moines register iowa poll which showed donald trump leading by four points. was immediately before the video that shuffled the race a little bit. we saw a lead ranging from 5-7 points. so high single digits through the fall here. but it has been a couple of weeks and the race has shifted in a significant way. host: we have been showing with themap of iowa major cities highlighted. could you paint the scene as far as what areas of the state do well for donald trump and what areas of the state do well for hillary clinton, and what are the tossups or areas where they both have to compete heavily? guest: sure. the state, the political geography of the state's symbol. the further west, the more republican. the more east, the more democratic. the big population centers are des moines, the capital. cedar rapids. both of those lean democratic but both candidates could be swing counties. the other key swing area is the quad cities of davenport on the illinois border. in the east. there is trump doing well? he is doing well in rural iowa and his campaign is but a lot of smallion on the manufacturing towns where democrats traditionally have been strong with waiver support and working-class support. trump is focusing on that and there are indications that he is doing well in those communities. that be somewhat, mission city, burlington. as far as hillary clinton? guest: hillary clinton is focusing in on the urban areas. the suburbs. her campaign see the opening with suburban women. i have also focused on college campuses. for the last several weeks, we have seen campaign surrogates coming in and often they have been actresses, entertainers, sports figures. they have been spending a lot of time on college campuses. host: jason noble is our guest from the des moines register to talk about iowa as a battleground state. he has set up a little bit of the background of iowa itself. if you have questions about the campaign and i was role, -- and iowa's role. (202) 748-8000, iowa residents. (202) 748-8001, all others. you can also give your thoughts this morning on twitter. aboutnoble, talk millennial voters, young voters. where are they breaking and how are these campaigns appealing to them? guest: the des moines register iowa poll showed donald trump ahead with voters under 35, that goes against the conventional wisdom but there have been roads here. there has been an effort to reach millennials and young voters. we definitely see that from the clinton campaign and independent .roups like jen climate which has been on college campuses for months to register voters and get them out to the polls were candidates who support climate change, in this case, hillary clinton. of the focus here than in other states -- the big key demographic here are suburban voters. republican women, even. there is an idea that there may be voters out there, republican voters who support marco rubio who won't be satisfied with donald trump but may be willing to look at hillary clinton or sit out the election. host: when it comes to on the ground, give your impressions of both the campaigns of clinton and trump. what is their machinery like? guest: you are seeing a very strong ground game. get out and vote effort from the clinton campaign. a have 33 offices across the state. a lot of organizers and volunteers. they're bringing in famous surrogates to hold the events to encourage voting. it is a robust effort. he haven't seen hillary clinton herself here a lot but she will be back here on friday in cedar rapids. we have had bill clinton, bernie -- the, michelle kwan figure skater -- here later today. all of that is geared towards getting people enthusiastic about the race and getting involved in the lengthy early vote time. efforts from donald trump. we have seen the candidate more. we have seen donald trump and mike pence here a bit more than the clinton principles. events with surrogates aimed at one group or another. inublicans are doing well the early vote in getting requests out for ballots from their supporters. but they haven't done as well in getting the votes back in the ballot box so far. host: we have calls lined up. thet in north carolina, on line for others. you are on with jason noble. of the des moines register. caller: thank you for taking my call. this, what can we do restore ourty, to -- intutional government my humble opinion, you can see that the political parties today are corrupt, both of them. and we are basically, for the , we have one person who is an outsider. he has major flaws -- you know who i'm talking about. and even though he is a flawed political, i really believe he has the pulse of the nation in terms of getting people to realize how this country is going downhill. both political parties, people are fed up with this. and we need somebody from the outside. so what can we do to get somebody who is not an insider who can bring about change, and not have to rely on both political parties? and have the continued corruption that will continue, even if donald trump doesn't get in? and then we will have another republican get in? we need to make change. the personal flaws of the candidate. -- guest: that is a big question. the process is slow. ofis slow by its nature serving 325 million people, but it is responsive. if there is a grassroots and movingr change the system and moving the system in a different direction, it will happen as long as people stand up and vote for that change and do the things and the public arena that call for it. host: let's hear from mike in the morning. -- des moines. drive a delivery vehicle every day and what i see is a lot of more trump them trumpthan hillary -- signs than hillary. polls, won in the early but i see trump looks like he took the momentum and ireland's are supporting trump -- iowans are supporting trump. i do not like that she is trying to cash in more on women. i do not think it is right. it looks like trump is more popular in iowa than hillary. guest: the signs on the ground is part of the campaign and it varies from area to area, neighborhood to neighborhood. i think it is right that so far in the polling and the way we are measuring, trump has been ahead. it be interesting to see in the next two weeks how things come together and the ground game and organization and get out of the vote from the clinton campaign changes the dynamic that has been in place. host: will say one of the papers highlight mr. trump's claim of phony polling, does it resonate amongst iowa voters? among his supporters, there's definitely that sent that he is being treated unfairly by the media and there's is not a real fair shake of going. i have spoken to a lot of his andorters at his events people who have responded to the polls and the feeling among his supporters that there is sort of a campaign against him not to just buy hillary clinton but by the media and others. i do not know if that is shared widespread beyond that. host: here is brian with the jason noble. caller: hello. good morning. is no surprise that the previous caller from iowa believes that there are more people in iowa voter does voting for trump -- voting for trump. i will not mention that the speaker was white and male. for all of those calling about health care prices, if they would've voted for single-payer, which most of the industrialized , and thenuntries have they would realize a portion of the tax money that complain about paying all of the time, understandably so, would pay for single-payer. they could get single-payer if they realized it instead of paying a third-party, the insurance companies, and outrageous amount of money for health insurance costs. i had a couple of other thoughts. host: why did you bring up about male,- trump and white why was that important? it speaks for itself. i mean -- i do not know if i want to get into the minutia, the statement speaks for itself. jason noble, what did you take from the statement? guest: there's definitely a sense that drop -- trump's strength has been routed into the demographics of the state. iowa is over 90% state. it is much wider than other swing states. -- whiter than other swing states. a higher percentage of the electorate is without a college degree, which is characteristic supporters. they tend to be white and without a college degree. we have more of those as a share of the electorate. host: from connecticut on our live for others, tom. hi. caller: good morning. . couple of quick questions jason, what if any is your political affiliation? caller: -- guest: i am a registered -- caller: have you made contributions to any political party? guest: i have not. concernednally, i am about the the tape released of the nine or more women, what has the register done on those individual females who have come forward? "uest: oh quote the des moines moines" register is part of the u.s. today network. others.r line for i am sorry my voice has been damaged from surgery. i am not sick. guest, like to ask your the discussion of what to do to make a difference in the lives of the ordinary american people has just been eliminated more or less in discussions of her politics. transportationss do you have in iowa? can people get from one town to another on public transportation -- or do they have to on a maintain -- own and maintain their own vehicle like we do a missouri? i am concerned about do you have enough doctors. i know we have a shortage of doctors in the united states and there seems to be no discussion about producing more and allowing young people, more young american young people to study in graduate programs. quotas and thee schools across the country, which i am not sure i agree with. host: mr. noble, do you want to take any of those? the case speaks to an important issue i hear from it hasthat it feels like been a very personality, very politics driven campaign that want talking about substantive issues advance been a real disappointment for voters across the board. when candidates are trying to talk about policy and it is drowned out and may not be showing a wilderness to dig into the details and focusing on character and past history and things like that. -- noble,noble cap can we turn away from the presidential election and talk about mayor elections. chuck bradley, who is he running against and how is that going? guest: sure. term.his 6th he is facing democratic challenger patty judge. she is the former lieutenant governor as secretary of agriculture and the state. she came into the race in march right around the beginning of the discussions about the supreme court. senator grassley is feeling a key role in the nomination and has been on the judiciary committees who has refused to hold hearings for the nominated judge garland. judge entered the race as it was heating up. under the calculation, it would be a defining issue. it has not really happened. as with gone along, chuck grassley has had a comfortable lead throughout the race and the less iowa poll he was leading by 17 holes -- points. he is well-funded. he has been much more present on tv and more visible in the campaign. it looks like he is headed toward a comfortable reelection. those(202) 748-8000 for of you living in iowa. (202) 748-8001 for all others, folks in iowa as a battleground state today. to follow up on that, jason noble, recent story of yours looking at outside money in congressional races being spent. can you tell the folks at home about the story? guest: sure. the story focuses on 2 congressional races in iowa. the first to district which is northeast iowa, cedar rapids, traditionally democratic. the others the third district which includes the des moines metro and point southwest. republicanreshman and seem to be very competitive. the story you referenced looked at the money commented to the campaign outside groups. a lot is spending on tv at an other voter -- and other voter outreach, republicans and democrats see these as competitive. democrats see them as potential pickup and republicans as seats they need to defend. three and a half million dollars on both -- $3.5 million on both races. host: if you want to see the debate in the third district, it is live on thursday. representative david young and live this on c-span wednesday at 9:00. outside spending when it comes to the presidential race, can you paint a picture? guest: we are seeing outside spending in the presidential race. the big democratic super pac is spending money here. there are couple pacs supporting donald trump. the bulk of money is from the hillary clinton campaign is self. we have nothing quite as robust as outside spending in the presidential race compared to congressional races. line south carolina on our for others is jim. caller: good morning. a quick comment about your guest theaking that comment about candidates not talking about the issues a it is the way they do not talk about the issues is they know if they tell the american people the truth and talk about the budget deficit and the spending cuts that need to happen, people would not want to hear it anyway. i think hillary and trumpet know this at it as a lost cause. i would not blame the candidate -- i blame it on the voters who do not want to hear it and the people who are elected and know this. noble?r. -- that is one way of looking at it. at one point, those issues have to be addressed. host: evelyn, you are on. caller: hi. first i want to congratulate the register on what i think is excellent writing through this and the stance it has taken. was one"the register" of the first major newspapers that was kicked out of trump rallies and anything having to do with trump. trump went on to battle like "the watch to post" -- "washington post" and other major newspapers. media, i importance of would like his opinion on the effect it has on -- on the election where you have a major candidate who is fighting the media. guest: sure. register/s"to "the experience. our editorial board who expresses an opinion on matters of politicians has been critical of trump. i do not take part in those conversations or have a role in that. the editorial board has been critical of trump and that did lead to a time, us not getting press credentials and the access other journalists were getting to is events. that did not really affect our coverage because we were still able to get into the events and cover with the general audience. but how has trump's handling affected the race is evelyn's question? he has made it an issue and do something for him that has rallied to his supporters and created a sense of solidarity among his supporters. the broader effect, i do worry it undermines objective journalism. it is anything we cannot come back from. host: one of the topics the candidates are addressing his jobs and the economy. i was current unemployment rate is 4.2%. the income is $67,000 for a family income. how do those factors play out in how people decide to vote when they look economic issues? i think that is kind of an important distinction that voters are going to make between these candidates. we asked the question our latest poll about how you feel the direction of the country is going? the differences were stark between the two parties and supporters of clinton and trump. trump supporters, more than 90% of them in our i will poll, said the country was in the wrong track. among clinton supporters, it was a majority that they believed the country was on the right track. voters arek to how feeling about their position and their opportunity in life. the numbers overall that you reference in i will looks pretty good -- iowa looked pretty good. the income is relatively good. that is not uniformly felt across the country. some of the smaller communities were a big employer has left and ill the has come to f gap, the people who are feeling the anxiety are going to trump. host: if you are in the agriculture business in iowa, are you looking at this election differently as well? guest: the question is really an interesting one from the agriculture industry. corn prices and other commodity prices in iowa are down. the cost ofow production, which is not good for farmers. there's a lot of angst of the obama administration and the way it is handled some cities for ethanol and biofuel. they are feeling resentment within the agriculture. the trade issue of which is been a centerpiece of trump's campaign, he is on the other side with the farmers. farmers, agriculture groups like the notion of free trade. they see asia as a huge market for soybeans and other commodities that are producing. i do not think they are too enthused about tariffs and a trade war with a major trading partner. there is an interesting push and pull. host: jason noble joining us as we take a look at the battleground state of iowa. sherry, good morning. caller: good morning. , i heard a little term for politician and i want to know -- not a lot said about it. could you maybe tell me what is continuing the long-term they have? we have a lot of young kids coming up and i think some of these people need to resign or we need to have shorter terms. can you see if "the register" has covered any of it? --t: the list of terms length of terms of congress? caller: we are in a modern world. we need young blood. host: we will let our guest answer. guest: the notion of term limits is a perennial topic in politics. mentionedhave heard by different interests groups through this cycle. i do not know if there is any real movement toward it. the people who make the decision are the self interest was who probably do not want to see term limits happen. we obviously do not have term limits at the congressional level or in the state of iowa. i started my career as a political with order -- reporter in missouri where they have term limits. it has been a mixed bag. there is something to be said about expertise and seniority and the understanding of the process that comes with spending a lifetime in a legislature. you can see the effects in the state of missouri where it has been lost and as i get a maximum of four terms, eight years in the house. two terms in the state senate. it may not bese enough time to understand the nuances of state government. four iowa) 748-8000 residents -- for iowa residents. if you are another state and want to learn a little bit about iowa as a battleground state, (202) 748-8001. page ofe, on the front one of the papers, it talks , iowa state as a model for exclusivity. how has it changed and i was recent history? -- iowa's recent history? mr. noble? having audio issues. we will get those issues hammered out. our line for all others. good morning. caller: good morning. i want to the oklahoma bombing reference tois a is judge garland was called away from his family to be the judge over the case, the oklahoma city bombing case. for people in iowa who do not know what to the issues are, it is unconscionable that chuck grassley what stuff this nomination like he has. delano from conway, missouri on our line for others. you are on. here are lot of people .our trump -- for trump our senator has been here for 30 years and his whole family is lobbyists. he is republican. if we vote against him, we are actually voting against -- it is a dilemma. i am not going to vote for him because -- i am voting against lobbyists mostly. that is why i am voting against him mostly. host: why vote against lobbyists? caller: lobbyists are running the country. is now representatives that are supposed to be representing us. as they are writing the bills and everything. i really appreciate. that is my comment. honolulu.is in jim, go ahead. your thoughts. caller: i wanted to ask of the young reporter, it seems to me that most reporters these days i older -- are a bit quite a bit older than his young man. does he see the bias in the media like we see the bias in the media? my daughter goes to the university of honolulu and she is in journalism. keptdid their own -- they track on what was being said this year on both sides. they came up with -- it blew me away. 87% of everything we are cable,g on news, mainly 87% was something to do with the campaign this year per -- year. 69% was negative for trump. democrat.now, i am a everybody in hawaii is a democrat. you would never see republican governor again or anything like that. wondering, it used to be called the -- state. you had the free press, which was supposed to tell us, get people down there and route around and find out what is going on. i do not see that anymore. like the clinton foundation, nobody has ever looked into the clinton foundation. , do theyeople in iowa realize how terrible our press is these days? noble, let's ask you about this idea of media bias. what is your perspective? do you get questions? guest: it is something that comes up on the campaign trail, especially at trump events when i told his supporters and get an ear full about the way the press has handled donald trump. to the caller's point about the volume of coverage of truck -- trump and his perception of the nature of that coverage, we're talking about somebody who has been a public life for decades but has not been part of the political process. it is sort of a natural vetting process that comes at the politics that the media had a lot of catch up to do with the donald trump as he emerged out of, you know, the entertainment industry into politics over the last year and a half. there was a lot of vetting to do of his character and passed and political position -- past and political position. hillary clinton has been a s, 25, 30or -- politic years. and to his point about the clinton foundation not being covered, that has certainly been in the media and covered at the national level. this is jim from san antonio, texas. am i on? , it, about the term limits is up to the voters to make that periodn about the time in congress or the senate. production,n ethanol, i do not know how great that stuff is. they willoncerned have to grow corn for food? -- guest:e sense here the sense here is ethanol is a fairly mature industry and well-established and there is a sense that if there is a phaseout of the federal subsidies and it that help would -- happen gradually. issue during the iowa caucuses last year and where all the candidates were on how to handle the renewable fuel standards. i think there's a sense that overtime ethanol will stand on his own two feet as an energy source, but the industry wants to see it happen gradually. indianapolis.d in you are next up. [indiscernible] that whereis like everything on the political spectrum is left. rifta here and you are probably on the left also. no studies of the environment. let's flip it all upside down. obamacare is perfect. yokelsocal -- you are spinning in their great. host: what is the question or comment? get thedo des moines ?arching orders from rifta guest: i do not get marching orders from anybody. my stories myself based on what i am seeing here on the ground and talk them over with my immediate adhere -- editor and we go from there. was going to ask you for two weeks out of election day, what is your focus? was stories are you going to be most interested in? what the campaigns are going to do, their closing arguments and the state of iowa. i am closely watching the early vote returns that moment in. iowa has a 40 day early vote period that begins in early september. there is a lot of readily available data and how democrats and republican and new party voters are casting their ballots. that is a great data set to surmise how the campaigns are doing and what we can expect on election night. i will be watching polls that show how i what is shaping up over the last two weeks. -- and we willes see the candidates here are a few times. hillary clinton will be here. from "the desble moines register." our discussion will continue on with two experts on the ground in iowa. we will hear from danny hoffman to talk about what the democrats are doing to help hillary clinton win. and we will have steve deace and get his perspective. iowa with six electoral votes of for grabs in two weeks and will take a look at that as part of our battleground series. many in the state not only looking at what is going on nationwide but in their own state, they get a sample of commercials from the campaigns. we'll talk our next guest. until then, a sampling of some the commercials. >> our economy once dominated the world and are middle-class thrived very today, jobs are gone. factories are close. bad trade does push and by the clintons that sent our jobs to other countries. donald trump's plan to renegotiate nafta, stop for nations from cheating us, cutting taxes to reopen factories. donald trump knows business and he will fight for the american worker. >> how tall are you? >> how do we measure greatness in america? the size of our bank accounts? by what to doured for our children. the values we pass on. i spent my life fighting for kids and families. a will be my mission to build country where our children can rise as high as their dream and hard work take them. that means good schools for every child. college is at least the opportunity and not debt. an economy where every young american can find a job. we face a big challenges, but we can solve them the same way that families do -- working together. and never giving up. i want our success to be measured. i am hillary clinton and i approve this message. >> i am donald trump and i approve this message. >> the man who murdered joshua was an illegal immigrant and should not have been here. field andm to a doused it with gasoline and set him on fire. the hardest day of my life. hillary clinton's policy is going to allow people into the country just like the one who murdered my son. announcer: washington journal continues. host: our next guest is danny homan, the first vice chair of the iowa democratic party and the president of iowa council 61. danny homan, welcome to c-span. guest: good morning. abouti want to talk looking at the polling data. it shows mr. trump by the lead -- a good lead at this point as far as the state. does that number concern you? guest no, it does not concern me. it depends on what day, what , il, any number of factors do not believe polls elect candidates. i believe polls are a snapshot in time. i believe hillary clinton will do just fine in the state of iowa. host: our previous guest spoke about the republican influences. and you think it is going to be good for hillary clinton this time around. what makes you say that? i believe that although iowa can probably consider republican leaning state, that is not been the recent history. barack obama won the state the last two times he ran. that we had 12 years where we had a democratic governor. i believe that we have a democratically controlled iowa senate. folks areate, starting to look at the issues. if you look at the issues, donald trump and how he has attacked women, how he has attacked disabled people, how he has attacked veterans, and prisoners of war -- i do not believe it sells well with the majority of iowans. there is a group that will support to that and apparently our government -- governor. that common,eve everyday americans do. the one i think is most egregious is how he considers and thinks of women and treats them. in theve those traits end will propel hillary to a victory. host: is there a way looking at hillary clinton's chances of house she is performed in the iowa caucuses and can you relate one to the other? guest: our caucuses were of very competitive race. eight years ago hillary clinton lost the iowa caucuses. this time around, hillary clinton wanda caucuses -- won the caucuses. won at every stage and the state convention. i believe that hopefully the enthusiasm and what transpired during those kocsis will propel her to victory on november 8. host: our guest until 9:15. , (202)a residents 748-8001. , what is the on the ground effort for hillary clinton? the hours you are investing from now until election day? guest: our organization is investing personally a lot of time, a lot of energy. we have maternal volunteers out every day -- we have a time of volunteers out every day, canvassing. iflecting absentee ballots, folks want us to come back and get them. and checking that they mailed them in. that is right now, for our organization and for the iowa democratic party, i believe job one. and to get the ballots in an democrats have always had a great ground game. membership voted for years ago and that is very high turnout. we are encouraging all of our members to go vote. addition to the presidential campaign this year, we have a very competitive house and senate race in here in iowa and we want to make sure that folks are voting up and down the ballot and are voting for folks that will take care of working men and women and not take of the 1% and not take care of those who do not really need any help. overalle of the themes over previous cycles is that of voter fraud and things of that nature. how is iowa set up and oversee that votes are counted and taken in the proper way? pedro, i did not catch your question. host: how is iowa set up to make sure when the votes come in they are counted? how is i you what set up -- i was set up -- iowa set up? guest: iowa is set up fine. as our governor said, there is no fodder rod in iowa -- voter fraud in iowa. folks andhe county based on the state folks, there is going to be no problem whatsoever in voter fraud here in iowa. frankly, i believe there will be no problem with voter fraud in this country. i think that seeing them that theme is an- attempt to drive down voters and convince people not to vote. i think that is a shame. this is a constitutional right, and everyone should go vote. i think everyone's vote will be counted. and it will be done fairly and accurately. and the votes will be counted and they will be counted accurately. i am not worried about it at all. host: we will start this morning from iowa for our guest danny homan,. go ahead, wayne. our representatives are not talking more about the we need, i do not think to be another flint, michigan. thank you. caller: -- guest: there are opponents on both side of the pipeline issue. that -- i do not know if i have an opinion one way or another. ,s long as it is done properly it will be ok. i really do not know. i am more concerned about trying to figure up how we pull working men and women back to work in this state and how we give -- provide them job security so they can raise their family and put a roof over their head and feed them. the pipeline, i know the people passionate on both sides of the issue. that issue is going to be determined. i hope it can be determined without any more violence. host: for context, can you tell our viewers about this pipeline? guest: there is proposed pipeline that is going to run across the state of iowa. i do not know exactly where it ends up. , fromes oil from canada my understanding -- some toxic down andaking it having get refined somewhere else in the country. it is running across not only iowa but south dakota, north dakota. that is where some of the bigger fights are because it is running through some indian reservation land and they do not want anything to do with it. there have been farmers who have welcomed the pipeline and there are others who have not. is sort ofissue that above my pay grade. we have members that support it. we have members that oppose it. it is not an issue ideal with every day. host: let's hear from nevada. caller: hi. homan, when donald trump first lost in the primary in iowa, he called all iowans stupid. i want to get your opinion why people in iowa would still vote for him? to me, that is a million-dollar question. not only did he say we were stupid, he is also said very egregious things about veterans, about a family that their son was killed in action, defendant other troops. my son is an army veteran. my father is a world war ii veteran. i am a veteran. iraqn was hit by an ied in in 2007. is --m to attack veterans i do not understand why any veteran, any veteran anywhere would support this man. and then to attack senator mccain from arizona because he was taken prisoner during the vietnam war. again, those things are just atrocious. insultedidate has about every group of u.s. citizens that could possibly be insulted other than his 1% of ends andnd oh -- fri those who are supporting hill with money and other issues. ma'am, i do not know. he will not get my vote. i can tell you that. he will not get the vote of anybody in my family. up on iowans wake november 9 and hillary clinton has won the state and donald trump has lost the national raise and then we can get back fixiguring out how we can the problems that is in this country because there are some problems. i do not believe donald trump is the answer. i do not believe donald trump can fix the problem. all he has done is divide groups. again, that is my opinion. and it is one i firmly believe. host: washington, connecticut. caller: i have a couple of questions. is there any attempt of the democratic party to change the private prison system in iowa? well, iowa does not have a private prison system. due to the wisdom of folks m administration, iowa passed the law that prisons. private fortunately, we do not have that played here in the state. . hope we never do with everything that has been publicized about private prisons and those companies that run those and the deals they cut to say we get x number of prisons. you are going to pay for x number of prisoners regardless of the beds. that is clearly a scheme i hope the state never gets involved in and right now they cannot do it in the state. host: we are talking to danny homan, the first vice chair of the iowa democratic party. let's hear for roger. he is in iowa. hi. caller: good morning. mainly about these -- how do you call them? your limit controls on senators. to me, this is not really an issue. we, the people, like i am watching c-span, we are the ones who can do it. all we have to do is get off of our rear end. we do not need other people to control that. i would like to talk about hillary. you know -- the people have called her a liar, i do not understand why they see the point of what other people say. i heard her comment about e-mail, one way or another, as feel she of state, i cannot talk about her duties as secretary of state. i think she did a wonderful job instead of listening to people who say she is wrong doing these things. opinionwell -- my hillary clinton may be different than others. i have known hillary clinton since 1991. i have a personal story about my relation with hillary clinton. in 2000aid earlier seven, my son was hit by an ied in iraq. when i got the phone call, i was on vacation. that is a tough call to receive for a parent and i know there are a lot of other parents who have received tougher calls. my son was alive. but i made a phone call to my political director and said i would like my son to be in the system as soon as possible so that his surgeries could be done here. harkin, called senator who in turn -- called senator clinton. senator clinton made some phone calls, real it did -- really do not know me. me and was not running for president. i was not her constituent, but i whoa father of a soldier wanted his son back in the united states so i can be there when his surgeries were done. and that happened. , put on a stabilized plane, returned to the united states and had his surgeries done in texas. when people talk to me about her being a liar or her not caring and her not really caring about anything but herself and her family, that is not the hillary clinton i know. have the time i privilege of seeing her in talking to her, she always ask s about my son. she asks about my 20-year-old daughter. she asked about my family. wifef my best friends' passed away in the last 3-4 months. hillary clinton sent him a personal note of condolences. this is the hillary clinton that i know. i know everybody does not know her. and people base their opinion based on other news stations that have reported about her. that is not the hillary clinton that i know and this is personal for me, a lady that went out of for ay to do something young servicemen getting the back to the states and his wife and his family could be with him when he went through surgery. is here. he is alive. he is pursuing to join to become a professional -- dream to become a professional bass fisher. , at leaster she did she took the call. she cares about my son's well-being. for that, i will always be grateful. i think she's a very compassionate, knowledgeable, smart, and she is ready to lead this country and she will make a great president of this country after we elect her and she is sworn in of jenni rivera year. host: let's go to georgia. this is frank for our guest, danny homan. caller: good morning. -- yes,tand what understand what the gentleman was saying and i am so proud that hillary clinton was able to help his son. -- whatl the matter is i am concerned about, and i think she's a good lady. i do not think donald trump is make himillain people out to be. i am torn in between both. that might have been an isolated issue. but hillary clinton and barack obama has destroyed our economy and our nation. i do not know whether donald trump would be any better, but my concerns are the e-mails that she refuses to release or they refused to release to find out if there was anything illegal. whooncerns are the people ssi.n social security and nobody seems to talk about barack obama and hillary clinton in eight years of office, we only got an increased ssi twiced a very minimal one at that. the price of everything goes up and we have not got no increases in six years. host: you can respond. vast -- fastly approaching social security, since i am 63, i would rather had president obama and hillary clinton in charge of social security and medicare than the republican plan of privatizing it and turning it over to a voucher system. quite frankly that scares the living daylights out of me. i do not know what kind of raises you got, i know there are a lot of citizens in this country who have not gotten pay raises. i know some have. security to acial private entity and let them run it like they were run any of the other companies like donald trump has run many of his into the ground that would scare me. if there nears to be some improvement, we need to make sure such security is sound because quite frankly, i hope i have many years of social security in my lifetime but i trust her and i trusted president obama much more than i would trust paul ryan who was to turn that system into a voucher system and i believe the folks that will be hurt are those that really need it the most. , wertunately here in iowa privatize our medicare/medicaid system and it is turning out to be a total failure with folks not getting the care they need. vendors not getting paid. a systemyou turned over to a for-profit company, as they are more worried about for-profit than for service. , may be in asir couple of years i will be worried about my social security increase. you have a sound social security system only because of president obama and i believe secretary clinton will keep that system sound and into the future for myself and my kids. guest is the first vice chair of the iowa democratic party, danny homan, is our cast -- guest joining us to talk about the battleground state. politics to real clear and look at the current senate race featuring chuck grassley, average insurance and 15 points ahead. does that suggest this race is done or things could change before in two weeks? guest: i think a lot of things can change in two weeks. again, i believe polls are what they are. out some time on the early morning of the ninth or very late on the eighth who won what because they will tell me. i will accept that unlike some people who may not accept the results of this election. i can only go back to a time in iowa where there was a senator from mount pleasant who was running against a sitting congressman. senator by the name of tom millsap. senator ville sack was behind in double digits, big time going to to the last couple of weeks. weeks,d that last two his fortunes turned and he won that election. he was down by more than what patty judge is. he turned it around in two weeks time and won the election and served eight years as governor. he has gone on and served as eight years of secretary of agriculture. finest secretaries of agriculture we have ever had in this country. thatnot willing to concede mr. grassley is going to win that race. i hope, we are working as hard as we can to help had a judge. mr. grassley stopped to doing his job. he stopped when he would not give the nominee for the supreme court even a hearing. it does not say the man is going to get confirmed. he were not even give him a hearing to send his nomination up to the full senate to let the full senate to vote on that issue. all they had to do was do the hearing and send it to the full senate and let the senate do what they wanted. if the republicans wanted to kill the nomination, they could have done it there. they would been following the constitution. i do not believe the founders of this country and the writers of the constitution ever met that we should who the nominee is. country and he needs to be replaced. host: a bit about patty judge, who don't know her. guest: i've known patty judge was a state senator. served as nt on and the agriculture secretary of iowa.lture here in she then went on and served as ieutenant governor for four years with culver, and now the united states senate. have always ay not agreed on one thing, but i know ne thing, patty judge will do her job. as hat means upsetting me the leader of this union, then she will do that. job and she her doll what she believes is best men and women in this state and this country and candidacy.port her host: next to dave in des morning.hi, dave, good caller: good morning. guest: good morning. morning. actually -- andrew he victory and from ps sent me a letter the democratic party. a bog us letter from a bog us person. it doesn't mention asking my clinton.for all it does, basically attack trump. in any event, i voted on the first day that you could. vote for her or any other clinton-crats or republicans. republicans. are mr. homan, go ahead. guest: i don't know that there a question there, i don't believe senator sanders was caucuses, ithe iowa was a close race. i believe that the iowa there were though some issues, were run fairly. there are people that don't believe that, that is their right. i don't know what letter the caller is talking about. say, i don't believe that i have ever sent out a letter to anyone telling them to vote for f. we send out a out a letter d with comparison of the candidates and it is up to each ndividual person on who they vote for and i respect that right when they go in and vote, their vote, not mine. and i don't have any control or how they vote for they vote, all i can do is try to educate. take exception with the fact that senator sanders was cheated. involved in every step of the caucuses, i was a hillary but there were times where i believe hillary camp right.hings didn't go there were times when the bernie camp didn't feel right. he bottom line, that is done and over. and hillary clinton is the i hope that folks will go and support her. host: does bernie sanders play a role should hillary clinton win the presidency? guest: absolutely. i think senator sanders has. i was also a delegate to the national convention, senator sanders spoke at the convention. sanders is campaigning for hillary clinton. sanders' e senator ideas have been incorporated democratic national plank. so, yeah, i believe senator believe we have a tuition program for kids going to college. with that.ed i don't want my daughter to raduate from the university of northern iowa with a mountain of debt staring her in the face the stage. walks off that i believe senator sanders and clinton have worked on a program jointly together and a ideas have been incorporated into a lot of things she's doing, along with a ideas of other progressive folks, liberal in this derate folks country. you know, senator sanders should involved, senator sanders is a good man. that's t my choice, okay. eight years ago, president obama wasn't the person i supported in iowa caucuses, but certainly supported him since he's been elected. senator sanders should be involved and i believe president clinton will have senator theers involved in a lot of things that she does and a lot of the programs and policies she puts forward. yeah, i firmly believe that. ist: post falls, idaho, here tom glad. caller: good morning, mr. homan. first, i'd like to say thank you your son's service and i'm rateful that you were able to get him home in one piece. i would like to ask you about uper delegates and the whole idea that one person is given the lead prior to the primaries being started, it seems very clear to me, i've been my whole life,cs that both parties are corrupt is rigged insystem that the party chooses our nominee, not the people. ears, the with my own republican came out, donald trump was wining and they were furious, they said, the people politicians, we do. t seems the democrats simply stacked the deck for hillary prior to anything starting and honest not at all to the american voter seem like our votes are what counts, it seems that buys oney politicians and supports you run the parties are he only ones with power to get anybody elected and us american citizens are getting the short end of the deal. can't imagine anyone think the $20 trillion in debt is a good it., yet we have we've had a two-party system since we started, both parties party, who simply divide and separate the american power.nd he will maintain thanks, tom. guest: i will try to address super delegates. delegates the super did not elect hillary clinton. hillary clinton won the majority delegates. hillary clinton won the popular of those states that had a popular vote. there is no way you can address that had caucuses. so i don't know the super the election. at this and i looked one time, i believe hillary clinton had more pledge that barack obama had eight years ago. a super delegate system is system that i guess i've served on both sides. gat in pledge diagonal denver and i was one of those in the last es convention. you know, i don't believe that system rigs it. of the ll majority delegates that are elected are pledge delegates and hillary won that early election. as far as the other things, i you know, yeah, we have some debt. i wish we didn't have the debt. pay hat's way above my grade. i know in my role with the party, i'm the first vice chair, not the party chair. meetings, i do what i'm asked to do and i go out and things better for folks and make sure that the efficiently and other than that, i really don't know hat to say to the gentleman, other than i don't believe this side.m is rigged on either clearly the party leadership on want publican side didn't donald trump and donald trump went out and won that election. and hillary clinton won the bernie ic side and sande well s, he did very, very and he amassed a large number of supportive delegates and folks that believe in his cause i believe a lot of his auses have been molded into where we go from here, so i on't see anything rigged about that, but one nominee believes so i verything is rigged, guess people can believe what they want. the sonally do not believe system is rigged, i believe the system works fine and yep, it is two-party system, a lot of folks want a third party. then i guess you got to go out make a third party, but right now it is what we have. host: we have a line for those iowa residents, 202-748-8001. for iowa residents, 202-748-8000. n the line for others, robert from michigan. hi. caller: hi. ahead, you're on. morning. caller: yeah, i'd like to say a things about -- ahead, you're o on. caller: yeah. i'd like to say a couple things bernie sanders. bernie sanders is running in the he turned and then and said he would go for hillary clinton. or er you're a democrat you're independent, you can't be both ways. either you are -- lep leopard never changes spots. he should have ran as democrat and quit trying to lead people n the wrong direction and that's what he did. he did that. and then on the electoral votes, electoral vote was put in by you people or some people, people of the united states of america. they did not have a vote on that. guys not having a vote on nothing, but the politicians make all the decisions. host: thanks, caller. guest: you know, that election is over. hillary clinton is the nominee. bernie sanders is supporting er, i don't know what else to say. i'm sorry that the caller feels that way. host: one more call, then this doug from tennessee. harimen, tennessee g. ahead, are on.u caller: i would like to begin with thanking you and your amily for service to our country and i would like to say you're -- donald trump's veteran's o the families, but hillary clinton caskets of dead americans and lied to their families. you feel o know how about that. well, you know, benghazi was a terrible situation and the world wants to attack a lot of people want to for that.lary clinton 6000 or more brother and sisters in arms that went to war over weapons of mass estruction and they lost their lives and i believe every -- was wrong. and we had no business doing i haven't seen any investigations into that war. attacks about any those lives being lost. women thatve men and are in harm's way. i can only tell you from my personal experience. hillary clinton cares about our ilitary, cares about the men and women that have served and will do everything in her power make sure they're not put in harm's way and i don't believe an we're going to be aggressor under her administration. i feel sorry for in four folks killed benghazi, but i feel sorrier for -- over 6000 folks killed in iraq and afghanistan war prior to that. 68,000 men 00, over vietnam.n fighting in i wear pow pin on my lapel because i don't believe they all been brought home yet. quit wearing that areuntil i'm convinced they home, those are my brothers and so i again -- it is done. host: danny homan, iowa party, vice chair. also, the president of the local iowa council 61. you, danny homan, for being part of the program today. pedro, i wish ou, you a good day and everybody in america. bless. host: one more perspective on this taking a look at the battleground state of iowa. by radio talk show host steve deace, host on ive talk show the salem network. his perspective on the state of might happen on election day. we'll have that conversation in just a minute. part of series of battleground programs we're taking a look all week long. today our focus on iowa. our guest joining us next, but first another sampling of the iowans are viewing in the days leading up to election day. >> our next president faces aunting challenges in a dangerous world. iran promoting terrorism. north korea threatening. rise.on the libya in chaos, hillary clinton every single time. secretary of state, she wants to be president. hillary clinton doesn't have the strength or stamina to lead in our world, she failed letecretary of state, don't her fail us again. >> i'm donald trump and i approve this message. >> in 2004, my son was stationed iraq. bomber suicide approaching his camp. moved forward to stop the bomb exploded.e his unit.veryone in died, e american soldier he was as captain kahn, 27 years old and he was an american. want to ask mr. trump, would my son have a place in your america? > i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. >> the clintons from dead broke hundreds of millions, so how did hillary end up filthy rich? play politics, staggering amounts of cash poured into the clinton foundation from criminals, dictators, countries that hate america. deals to exploit hatian necessary need. the d over rights to russians. hillary clinton cares about power, money and herself. and i donald trump approve this message. "washington journal" continues. host: we finish out the program conservative ce, talk show host and author of deace, ot," mr. steve good morning. guest: good morning, how are snu host: for those who don't know your show and the perspective you come from. show is syndicated across the country on salem etwork from 9 p.m. to midnight eastern. in iowa, born here. i've been involved heavily in a lot of campaigns, primarily republican campaigns from dog to presidentwa, up of the united states. i was one of the first people on during nd here in iowa the last caucus cycle, for example, to begin organizing for ted cruz. got a pretty extensive background in grassroots politic iowa.ary host: you said you organize, rotect cruz, here two weeks before election day, what is likelihood donald trump could win iowa? is a tough state for any republican to win and that's think republicans have won this state once since 1988, pedro. are an aging state, one of the oldest in the union. older the state, higher subsidy and big government votes for. he other, we are major agricultural state. that has been a tremendous heavily to us, subsidized industry. it's very difficult for people of limited ge government to win this state in presidential election with turnout than mid-term elections. the government would say anything or promise anything to and he's also somebody that appeals to base of rural white traditional ore republican candidates struggled to reach and polls have shown this. despite trump the last few eeks, one of the last pacificy holdouts that withstood has been iowa, although you are starting polling change on that, as well. organizationally, he is behind. he is s of trajectory, behind, but i would give him probably if the election were the today, depending what trend line around the country was, 50/50 chance to win it, of republican ot nominees have had coming down the stretch in this state over years. host: how are republicans looking at the last couple weeks the t of the release of tape and other things that stemmed from that? guest: pedrothat, is part of tratjectory, no question about it. something i said to the radio audience across the country he became the presumptive nominee in may. going toelieved he was win, i'm not surprised to see any of this. we vetted him closely in iowa that is why he lost in the highest turnout iowa caucus of all time. real issue here now is we're at this juncture i warn body for f. we get down to the end, pedro, and he can't win win.oks like he will not a lot of people will say, i don't want to be one dude at the defending g dinner the indefensible and ruining everybody's holiday. what is the point in plugging my nose and voting for him. zone. in the danger i thought nate silver had an thought a couple days ago and i think when you go out and tell people the system and i can't win that, is one of the strangest cotton-picking get out to vote seen.s i've maybe it will work, but i don't know why anybody think its is a tell people, to vote for me, but it won't work anyway. november 8. host: 202-748-8000 for iowa residents. 202-748-8001 for all others. mr. steve deace, i know that has certain amount of people in the state that are religious in their beliefs, how play with mr. trump? guest: i think he's going to underperform among evangelicals in the caucus. about to be careful throwing around terms. there are liberals in the northeast that think they are because they went to st. anthony for one day. a card nk uchrist is game. a lot of people think they are evangelicals because they live there is a first baptist on peach tree street and first assembly on the other side of peach tree street and they went on christmas and easter mae, the rest of the sundays they areats the football ames or off, you know, working on marksmanship. not that there is anything wrong is america, is afterall. religious identity, in some culture may be cultural identity n. iowa, you are ou are evangelical, we not like dominant cultural force here, not the dominant world here. a lot of people say they are evangelicals, that is a creed, system, not a sector of the population or faction and i think you saw this. had the highest turnout iowa caucus by a longshot in a long people thought on february 1, most people thought at g in, if record turnout the polls were forecasting turned out to be true and voters turned cus out to be true, trump would win f. they did turn out to be true lost, why? we had groups on the ground like the family leader, very influential organization for evangelicals going to churchs that had g people out never voted before. to vote their values, not vote or who fox news said could win or who was on the inds of people because of the media coverage. i think he will underperform romney has done with evangelicals because of the hings you just eluded to, but may make up for that by getting rural white voters that in the republican nominee didn't have a chance to get. dozen six and one half of the other. from iowa, talk show host, steve eace, talking about the battleground of iowa. first call from eric. .ric is in delaware ou are on with the guest g. ahead with your question or comment. caller: yeah, hi, steve. i want to thank you for your show. i've been listening the last closer ths, i'm coming to understanding god is the only answer for this country and i election, fear the god is in control. why are on is that evangelicals trying to twisting pretzels to support donald trump, but when it comes to the devil in influence her to into christianity, into the get her to y to change? that is my question. to that.e answer guest: i'm glad that this was one of the first questions that morning, pedro. one thing that is really been he most -- among the most disappoint nothing this election is to watch evangelical, so-called, i should say, bastardize, leaders if not out right deceive what the scripture means, the bible culture becoming increasingly secular and ignorant of the foundings in the first place. alienating people with what you actually believe is bad enough, doing it with what you believe is just dumb. when i hear christian leaders say things like in the bible god flawed people. it is true. but number one, we're not god, future. know the god knows how things with david are going to turn out, he's god. knows how things with samson cyrusu and nebechanezer are out. to turn often evangelical leaders will use flawed moral repru baits like donald trump, can't use bill clinton? what a puny god we serve, that peopleonly seemingly use with magic r after his name. corinthians, n two 6:66. credited to him all magicness, absolved of all sin. is not hackry that, christianity. if you cannot represent christianity in the public compromising it, get out. we have seen too much of that. a partisan hack, work for the rnc or dnc and leave the bible out of it. from tamma, iowa, linda up next. caller: good morning. mother, grandmother, sister and an aunt, i cannot believe iowa support a presidential candidate who is so of women.ful do voters of iowa think trump his negative attitude about women, veterans, disabled, minorities, minorities that have been called to the front by his ridicule? do you think he will change his ttitude toward women in this country? guest: that sounded like you did a great job reading off a script. criticisms. your there is proverb that says one man's story seems true until you side.he other many things the caller is referencing criticisms i have ade on my radio show, explanation as to why i never thought he was going to win. ou don't win by shrinking the electorate. i mean, the republicans needed to do in this mitt on, hold on to romney's base and add to it. i thought all along the number group was suburban voters, main group obama flipped in 2008 the presidential election and republicans needed to win them back, they have not poll withing are catholics and white college graduates and white women. those are three groups a lot of live in the suburbs. if you can't win those groups, suburbs.ot winning the remember newton's first law of physics, for every reaction, opposite reaction. i will not apologize for donald trump. callers the most leftist to c-span, unless they are low nabob tion conspiittator will put donald trump down more than i already have. when hillary clinton spends years saying my husband didn't assault these women. didn't harass these women tis vast right-wing conspiracy. hen hillary clinton says in primaries things like, my number one enemy are republicans and of wants to run on campaign we're better together, when she has for example, told christians the bible teachings about morality are true, out i ht said, if i'm president, will sick government on you and your first amendment liberty and freedoms ensidelined in the constitution. it works the other way, as well. side,you pick on the other you are going to create your own backlash. when you call people who deplorables, you, there are people supporting donald trump and spread this pepe the frog crap. people are supporting hillary clinton that are deplorable. it is part of the human condition. when you do those sorts of things, make the other side's as trump has t done. when trump told racial minorities, said things about should not be surprised he will see backlash against him he will see on november 8. other way, as well. hillary clinton is told key constituency groups of the other are not welcome in my home, not welcome in my administration, vino interest in out your reservations, beliefs or concerns, don't be backlash that creates against her, too. she is no saint. high, atives are record except for trump. host: from glenville, illinois, glenview, illinois, john is up next, go ahead. caller: good morning. a question about i have not heard your show, i'm not iowa. i would like to know how you covered, if you did cover, how the issue that had to do with the f.b.i., the quid quo pro in the news recently. i went out and looked at the upset t myself and was the way fox covered it. at least i can make it short documents, the f.b.i. wanted resources llocated in a certain way, f.b.i. was currently investigating hillary's e-mails over and rned classifications. f.b.i. agent asked, looking at classifications, asked the state department if they could quo pro, the id state department said, no. allocate ll not resources regardless. they noteified the higher ups in that f.b.i. person was fired. the news was in the exact opposite of what the state hat department maybe offered quid uo pro, which is opposite and makes hillary look bad. they did exactly what they should do, say no and let the know what was toechlted. host: caller, we'll get our that. to respond to guest: you know, there is only one really, if you look at two hillary clinton's polling has suffered in this ace, pedro, during her health scare. i think a lot of that was when we got out of august, media trump ve was the comeback, because these people ay or may not be liberally biassed. i think in many cases they are. one thing liberally biassed cover, on't want to three-month route, they were upng to create drama leading to the debate. hillary suffered in the comey investigation, the reached rector conclusion. go back and watch what james comey said in the press basically said hillary clinton is guilty of everything you think she is, but prosecute herg to anyway. and there are people that have gone to prison for the things is accused of doing. i have a hard time believe thering has been too many multiple field offices have gone to the justice department requesting allocation resources for investigations and have been denied, not just multiple and that is something that definitely happened in this race frchlt a perspective, what is a shame, a portion of the epublican electorate chose to throw a tantrum, rally around essentially a cult leader, chose go with ially just whoever the media threw up as most likely nominee because as reported during the primary, trump received about 60 times more coverage ran the same candidates who did. it is a shame because none of these sorts of issues are going of majority minds of the american people when they go vote november 8 and 5% have voted if you look at early voting numbers. this entire election comes down to one issue. reason why the republicans the t correctly prosecute corruption that is the stench of corruption surrounding hillary and people don't like hillary, trust her less. the raeb why they can't prosecute this case is because going to ssue that is decide the outcome november 8, nominee publican actually sane? they nominate somebody who is crazy and spent three debates and 75 million people confirming the entire democratic of this race, donald trump lacks temperament and president.e he has confirmed that. as much as hillary clinton think vote for , they will corrupt over crazy. corrupt may cost them a job, may pend more money when the tax man come. crazy means they wake up one morning and we're sending submarines because donald trump got troeled on night.r the previous they will never vote for crazy over corrupt, that is the deciding issue in this election today.ks from host: richard, line for iowa, colfax, iowa. good morning. caller: morning. ahead.ou're on, go caller: yeah, my concerns are grassley, his strict constructive things about the constituti constitution, when they can interpret one part of the constitution or amendment to done, verybody to have sanctity of ut the life for unborn, but after they're born, they strap an ak-47 on them and send them sxout say, go ahead. just don't add up to me, the same way with the gun with the laws.or they don't really have any ground and then they run on iowa valu values, gee whiz, i know many who lived here all my ife and there is not any iowa values connected to the stance taken in his has senate. -- in the host: thanks, caller. pedroi have my hands up. ak-47 just walked in, i will give him my wallet. i'm married, there is never any money actually in there. teenage daughter likes to say, i can't even. please point me o the tidal way and skurj of toddlers with ak-47s might be so safety locks.em host: to his point, not only in for the potential over to turn democratic power this fall. after this election. guest: it is likely. i think it is likely there is really only one time in modern political history that we have seen a political party survive a, you know, monstrosity at the op of the ticket, it was 1996, 20 years ago with bob dole. republicans survived that was dole was losing for different reasons than donald trump. lot of people still admire bob politically.t favorables were relatively high. people don't feel the same way donald trump. two reasons they are going to lose are different. ole's nomination didn't split the party as much as donald trump's has and frankly it hreatens to split it irrevokably going forward. you go back ng, if the 1996 election, two weeks before the election about this juncture, the republicans led by newt gingrich and trent lott, made a clean break and said, if you vote for bill clinton, keep us in control of congress to hold his feet to the fire and the him accountable and american people respond to the message and i make the argument what we saw the next couple years, where we had balanced budget in terms of outlay going budget, if not paying down the debt, what we reform, defensee of marriage act, some of the best conservative government was had since reagan left the second term of bill clinton, working hand in hand with the and lican congress sometimes nose to nose as the case may be. the republican party for reason in this election, has chosen not to do that. hey have chosen not to say, if you vote for hillary clinton, vote for us in order to hold her accountable. it is because the base is more split over the trump nomination than is bob dole. we have seen in the race, republicans when they try donald trump paid a terrible price for this. go back to the primary with jindahl, ker, bonnie stood up to donald trump early n the primary, they paid a price for it. republican convention and ted cruz epic vote your conscious saw his d you favorables with republicans plummet immediately thereafter. suffering through this, his favorables with republicans are plummeting, as well. know, if the reason republicans are when they challenge trump, are seeing down is because we're in the heat of an election win and ase wants to doesn't want hillary to win or trump is rebranding the republican party in his own image or if it is a little bit of both and i don't think we will get the that until after november 9, once the smoke clears. deace, our guest out of urbandale, iowa. and -- f "the plot," caller: good morning. this is a breath of fresh air. i'll be quite honest. announced you were going to be conservative talk adio host, i was wanting to change the channel and go to cnn, or something like that. saying is so in is. face true, it really and the thing about the they ican party is that have so much baggage of that is why a lot of people, like myself, i'm a -- i masters degree, i'm orking right now on my first semester working on a doctoreal program. say all that because a lot of have like myself, we do republica republicans, we could be swayed republican. but we stay away from the epublican party because of the hypocrisy. let me say real quick. pre-life, an you be okay, and when the baby comes, ou run away from the baby and deny a mother all types of programs? but you are , pro-gun, to me nmy mind, you are pro-death. real quick.his i got a chance to visit iowa in going out on as the obama campaign and so, you contingent of us from illinois, i was in pinefield, we and do knock on doors that thing. the people in iowa were so nice. so, i mean, they would speak. 'm like, are you speaking to me? excuse me for saying this, i thought the white people there you different and nice and validate that. thank you for what you had to say. ost: david, thank you for the call. mr. steve deace, go ahead. guest: couple things. rather iate the fact than stereotyping me, you heard me out. i think we need to be careful. stereotypes on both sides, obviously are not critical thinking. what you just w, said was i could not believe how much nicer the white people were. and i understand why you would say that, i understand the historical context of that. this is, i think, one of the problems we have as a culture. conservative? i'm a conservative because i want to conserve things. conserve?want to conserve the things i believe history has shown is best for human condition. what is best for the human condition? celebrate life and it are best for the human condition. part of celebrating life is giving people an opportunity to protect themselves. the question really isn't a -- the debate about is not ence in culture about guns, but about violence. the question really comes down to when the cops show up and someone is doing an armed robbery at the bank, do you want them showing up with sfors or guns? when someone walk intoes your , the n a home invasion police are 15 or twenty minutes way, do you want your elderly grandparent in that situation to defendnseless or able to themselves? is not about guns, but about violence. the question really comes down see, what is happening in many cases on the right, the caller guilty of a e are huge level of hypocrisy. why, more than anything else, both sides are guilty. seen ny times have we video of leonardo dicaprio and is salvation by recycling buddies showing up at carbon emission conference, where they sev 747 and suv's and carbon footprint. don't pee on me and tell me it's raining. both sides of guilty of hibock rase. i'm concerned what we do as conservative that plays into the stariotypes the last caller had. issue, we operate under flawed premise. e said, i could be -- i'm successful, i'll a college graduate. is, i hear him saying to me i don't want my money wasted. i want the opportunity i've earned to be maximized. he's open to our message. well, the question then becomes, over? we win him we've operated under 1970s and for far too long. majority out t there, if we use a few buzz words, they come rolling out of pews and corporate offices and vote republican. the reality, this is not the same culture. give funny to hear trump the same law and order speech richard nixon gave at the 1968 convention, 50 years ago. richard nixon barely won 50 that, won the popular vote by a point and the electoral college because he was able to win california. candidate, rd-party george wallace sweep the south. that message trump was run og tis 2016.ayed in 1968 we actually need to try winning people like the last caller over assuming we have majority sentiment in the country we don't have. how do we win them over? solutions. i think, for example, the issue of guns come up, you will hear republican conservatives say, i believe in the second amendment. that's great a lot of people don't know what the constitution don't agree and don't it.rstand post-constitutional society. the conservatives argue, i believe in the second amendment, i think it is a bad idea we have a tragedy where a young person got ahold of daddy's gun and blew their brains out, how tragic. we need to ban guns so we don't issues like that in the home. someone debates for a living and consulting with cam pab pains all over the country, this i beats value tions necessary any argument, period. it doesn't matter if the values arere bad and good, solutions are going to pun, in lue, pardon the an argument. we need to make our point and in but state t values, our values as arguments. for example, the reason why i good idea to a have the second amendment is, you know, i think that a young woman walking by herself on a college campus, where we're concerned about rape culture and being of that nature discussed and i'm the father of three daughters, two daughters, want my daughter to defend herself. she will need something stronger the mace, particularly if other person is armed. i want my elderly grandparents a rural area and the police can't get there and they are suffering home invasion, to defend themselves. i'm into solutions, not just having benign values argument. in women in believe government, my mom was 15 years old when she had me, pregnant at 14. i've ate government cheese and it is not that bad. lunches as a kid. we were on food stamps as a kid, there is a difference between and welfare net state. we're $20 trillion in debt, not unfunded liabilities and mandates to keep entitlement flowing for next several days. we cannot afford this. more people on food stamp than population of spain. we cannot afford this. grow s not the way to prosperity and to have college degrees, like the caller just said he had and the doctorate he working on actually become profitable and fruitful in a society. engaging the very economic systems that we defeated during the cold war. implement them here. he reason why i'm a conservative, i'm trying to conserve things of value. i want to see the caller, that investment he's made in college education and the people around him made in helping him get i want to see it pay off. i don't want to see it abliterated in hypocrisy. host: lan caster, california, with p next, you are on the guest, glen, go ahead. steve. hey, pedro, and this is glen. here is what i think is crazy. to ourterrorists brought state departme corrupt artment and hillary clinton and expect the american people to let that into the white house? we have pandering with the sickning.e you, it's when are american people going country back. we're not behind a roped press is this re -- where woman been lately? she goes out and barely has -- have a press conference, she provides the questions that her, she is k corrupt, she should have been in long time ago. she lies to mothers and fathers, people she didn't even send anybody to help. it is disgusting what is going with mouth here, just going on, he should be speaking people.he american host: we'll let him respond. mr. steve deace, go ahead. learned, we need to be care bfl saying people who are not the ith us american people. we don't like it when obama does know, my bibleyou says to love your neighbor as yourself. i don't like it when he does it us, i don't like when hillary clinton does it to us. will not do that to other people. that is get even-ism, not justice. he caller's complaints about hillary clinton, i was listening to the democratic counter part n the last segment and i listened to bernie sanders caller after bernie sanders complaint the exact presidency hillary being corrupt and dishonest we just heard from this caller. something unique to right wing, right nationistic liberal media want to fantasize in their most fevered dreams. the reason this election is reasonably close nominated, publican only reason he is within five points of the polling average is because the democrats nominated the woman who defaced or the washington corrupt symbol, the s the mascot, first chair. many complaints are shared by mojority of americans, that is why they gave this crazy kon man, donald trump, her friend, hoar voter, her don't or, supporter who supports all of her ideas and defended her post-benghazi, the positions mascot, first chair. many complaints are shared by mojority of americans, that trump had until last year. fraud son they gave this conman trump as much time to make the case as they did, they to vote for her. they believe she is as corrupt outaller you just had point and several bernie sanders callers that called pointed out. it., i wish i could change i did everything i could. i'm not rush limbaugh, i'm not hannity, i don't have the platform they do. i wish we would have had a sane candidate, a candidate that could have prosecuted the issues this caller raised in front of 70 million people in a national have the moral't pecadillos and scams and hane us donald trump is associated with, i wish we didn't have those things. my life wo years of missing time away from home, have somebody o come out of the iowa caucus that could be a candidate. tedd everything i could for cruz for almost a year, so we would not be in this position. decided they ople wanted ratings and decided they wanted to sell books, other decided they wanted to build a brand, because of that, saying madam president, the next four years. ost: who will you vote for in two week? guest: symbolic vote for me. i won't vote for him, i'm trying to ascertain what symbolism i think sends the message that i send.i want to i'm down to three people at this point. for own to either voting darrell cassel, evan mcmullin or in judge roy moore, who i think is a man's man and kind of are sorely riot we lack nothing this day and age. host: our guest, steve deace, next couple minutes, talk show host out of iowa. richard from fargo, north others.line for richard, you are on with our guest, go ahead. thank you., my question from mr. steve deace, i went to a couple cruz and necessary your state he has a dedicated group of followers and supporters. i wonders what you think there chance of supporting him n 2020 are after he decided to endorse trump a few weeks ago? personally, when he did reddin, i ed bruce wanted him to poke him or slap him and say, what are you doing on that.t your opinion thank you. host: for people who don't know essentially cruz's body guard and overall pretty guy. guest: you know what, man, i cruz, like a brother, we're good friends. y job is to call balls and strikes, more than make friends. his decision to endorse donald video andn before the other things have come out, i thought it was and said so at the ime and said to him at time and on my show. i think it is the worst i've cal miscalculation seen somebody who i really like make in recent memory and if it a close e worst, it's econd to rubio doing the gang of eight f. mar tlt co rubio never stands up with schumer and mccain and goes for amnesty, we are never in this position. and is coasting to nomination and probably leading this election by eight to 10 points looking at historic sim blans of victory. i think that is how much i think cruz made a political miscalculation, when he made that endorsement and look at has happened since. in wisconsin says, trump corrupts absolutely and we of this election, the amount of people coming close to o trump's orbit that will come out with more integrity than hey began it, will be a small, miniscule, microscoppettaic, atomic level, subatomic list. cruz'sitalents and conviction, he is a senator, conservatives or on issues we care about, i would not write him off. task in e's made his 2020 tougher. imagine knows what we know now imploded, fakemp campaign he's running, two weeks before the election he will do d.c., he is spending, not competitive, spend hasn't beeninia, it competitive since hillary put tim kaine on the ticket, why? pedro, challenge the audience at keeblth, mark the tape now. over, is election is somebody will go through the sec disclosure of the trump campaign things.d two one, find the number one expenditure of the trump ampaign was him reimbursing himself and his interests. two, i think they're going to is uncanny alignment f where trump spent money and energy and where trump owns properties. mark my word, i think you will this election is over. knowing what we know now, can ted cruz, will be sitting in the 19post-76 seat right now if he never endorsed trump, like me and his wanted him to. he made a big poi decision, he price.y the big boy best option, no question. he will not be a shoe in. a will have to win back portion of his base that he disappointed, that he had prior endorsement. host: a few more minutes with our guest. modesto, california, jump in. caller: hi, steve, i'm a big fan of your show. after, you know, trump rose. done with tty much the republican party now. i don't even call it the grand old party anymore. think it is the grand old undead s dead and the corps of the republican party will walk along for a little while. you think ng what about a new party and what challenge it might face from "conservative media," about 40% you know, , republican leadership, the other peddlers who e just probably prefer democrats in office because they make more money. guest: got you. ost: mr. steve deace, two minutes until end of program. guest: well, when i've been sked in the past about a third party, my answer is, i would like to see what a second party looks like first. is clear, given where we're at, exon stential tipping point on the right. of s ascism, not a healing people working together going forward. the question that remains, the epublican party in current incarnation is no vehicle, no vessel for conservatism. the question then becomes, can radiccally remade like they did in the '60s and took it party to a ng class fully leftistide logical can essive party, conservatives do that to the republican party? f not, you are going to need another vehicle and another vessel. too many people have corrupted themselves. hannity spent eight minuteos a how, extolling virtue of the integrity of the national enquirer. didn't get into this to be called names, to have my, you know, motivations questioned and mocked in order to efend the virtues of publicati publication, every time i go to talks ermarket counter about aliens anally probing redneck necessary trailer parks. is not why i am doing this. i think there is a lot of people caller, what is he point, i think this is the exo stential argument, about november 9.tarting host: steve deace, talk show host. find out more about his program website steve deace.com. mr. steve deace, thanks for being part of the program today. guest: it was an honor, thanks, i appreciate it. states the ground topic of conversation today. looked at north carolina yesterday. at ednesday, we'll look pennsylvania and following up remainder of the week, florida friday.sday, iowa on you can see the segments as they and later the program today us -span.org, that's it for today, another edition of the program comes your way tomorrow. see you then. >> c-span's road to the white house coverage begins today with 2 events. an early voter rally with five poles gathered by real clear politics showing with a four- point lead in florida. the rally will start at 2:15 p.m.

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