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Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 20151107

Xl pipeline, you can call us at 202 7488000. If you oppose the decision, you can call us at 202 7488001. You can also less know your thoughts on social media. We are on twitter, cspanwj. We are on facebook at facebook. Com cspan. You can send us an email at journal cspan. Org. President obamas announcement was on the front pages of many of the nations newspapers today. Here is how the New York Times reported the story, president rejects Keystone Pipeline, invoking climate. Host joining us now for more on this decision is elana schor. She is the Energy Reporter for politico. Good morning to you. Thank you so much for being here. Tell us a little bit about what went into this decision for as obama. What were some of the factors that swayed him to reject this pipeline project . The first argument being economics. During the last 18 months, the lack of direct job creation for the project made it easy to deny the permit. The president is looking at what is called the national interest, a bunch of factors. Politics, economics, the environment. Elected a newada Prime Minister that is far less supportive of keystone, it was easy to say no. The upcoming Climate Change talks in december, how did that factor into whether or not he wanted to move forward at this time . Guest that was the key environmental factor motivating him. What is the module through at demonstrative, thanks to an activist, is the international symbolism of this project. I head of the uns climate talks, rejecting sends a message that obama is serious. Host what has been reaction from lawmakers on capitol hill . Guest every member of the senate, and most in the house sounded off on this. And some democrats think this was a bad decision. ,ou are likely to see more intensifying, the two parties, in their corners, if you will, as the election approaches. Host do you think this will be a major issue in the 2016 campaign . Guest honestly, that is in the hands of the republicans. Right now, you have every democratic candidate against keystone, and every republican for it. That is really a tough decision for republicans because keystone has not been seen to move so many votes. Host what has been some of the reaction from democratic lawmakers from the states, in which keystone would have been impact . An are using some bipartisan switching . Guest not really. Much democratic presence in those states to begin with. They have really moved on to crude oil exports as their single big issue. You mentioned the seven years that we have been talking about the Keystone Pipeline. Was this a surprise at all . What are the next steps for transcanada, the Company Planning to build the pipeline . Guest it could not have been less of a surprise. As for transcanada, there are really intense meetings keep in mind, canadian oil is very expensive to extract. They are slashing jobs, and now they will have meetings to decide what to do with this project. Host is there a possibility that transcanada could sit tight until 2016, or early 2017, and wait for the next president . Could the next president reversed this decision . Guest transcanada would have to reapply and change certain aspects of the project. That would not be hard. What would be hard would be another Environmental Review process under another president. There are certain boxes that must be checked under the law. Host they have to go through this entire process again, and who knows how long that would take, in other words . President obama recently pushed through other environmental regulations, some are calling a very tough and strict. What does this president what his legacy to be on Climate Change . As close wants to come to saving us from it as possible. Remember, the commitments that itese president s made would not get us to the threshold that Scientists Say is crucial to avoid Climate Change. That does not mean that the president will not try. ,ost that is elana schor Energy Reporter for politico. Thank you for joining us this morning. Times,financial victory for green groups as obama blocks contentious Keystone Pipeline. Mr. Kerry said a critical factor for him is that keystone approval would have undermined credibility at the in paris ins december. It would not have lowered the truly impressive, and would have brought a particularly dirty source of fuel to the u. S. Ahead of the Petroleum Institute group, said, by rejecting the Keystone Pipeline, the president has put extreme ideology over american opportunity. The president of the National Resource Defense Council said in favor of the environment. Ja first club will be que, opposing the decision. Caller i do reject the idea. I am a conservative. Jacque,hat was apparently we have lost you. We will go on to the story from the wall street journal, theuding some response from chief executive of transcanada, the Company Behind the project. He said that the state department own review present compelling evidence that keystone xl wa would not exacerbate Greenhouse Gas emissions, and that misplaced symbolism outweighed merit and science. The story goes on to report that he has said that his company was unlikely to abandon the project entirely, but he also said in an interview last month that transcanada would consider writing off the 2. 4 million that it has already spent on the lie shallow. Let it by shallow russell, you say you support president obamas decision, why is that . Caller for the three reasons he gave. I thought that way before i felt that way before. My position would be, why doesnt canada run their pipeline through their own country, and run it from north of montana over to vancouver . And build the refinery over there. They do not have to run through our country. The same way they could go east with the pipeline through canada, the same as they ran their Railroad Lines through canada. I do not see why they have to run it through the United States. The second point i would make is obama wouldident have supported the pipeline , the republicans would have said it was a bad idea. It is sort of the old thing of whatever he is for, they are against it. Those are my comments. The are you worried about Economic Impact of rejecting the keystone xl pipeline . This is supposed to create thousands of jobs over the next few years. How do you feel the economy will do without this boost . Caller i think it would have no effect. It was a temporary thing. After it is all completed, it would just be less than 50 jobs that people would be monitoring the pipeline. Lets say the pipeline meeting, or having and oils will, or Something Like that far exceeds the benefit we would get economically. Host our next color is tom from pittsburgh, pennsylvania, calling to oppose president obamas decision. Why do you believe the pipeline should have gone forward . Opposed tohink, as the previous caller, transporting oil by pipeline is much more safer and efficient. Han by rail car we have seen what happens when there have been some derailments. It is the devastation to the area, and wherever the trains derail. I think the main reason he is choosing not to use the pipeline is he wants to have the railroads transport the oil, railroads owned by Warren Buffett, his very good friend. Host all right, tom from pittsburgh, pennsylvania calling in opposition to the decision. Next up is lori from pennsylvania lots of colors from pennsylvania this morning you reject the decision, why is that . Caller most of the reasons i have been hearing that far, and i agree with them in the sense that it is an environmental concern, it will not increase the jobs, it will not help the economy. Andtype of oil that it is, if that spells into the aquifer through the heartland, you know, that is disastrous. Also, i think it negates the need for us to look at other ways to increase things like using wind and solar power. Those are the kinds of things where we need to keep our focus and decrease our reliance on fossil feels. How how do you feel about long this process has taken dragging out over seven years do you think this decision could have come earlier . Caller yes, i do, actually. I think the president was waiting to gather as much of the data as he could possibly get. That was partly the reason for a long period of time waiting period plus, the fact that it is a republicancontrolled congress, and they have been in favor of this pipeline since it started. I think working through congressional issues alone has but a delay on this. Host now, some reaction from lawmakers. Newly minted House Speaker paul ryan issued this statement in a is not this decision surprising, but it is sickening, by rejecting the pipeline, the president is rejecting tens of thousands of good paying jobs, rejecting all without the American People and a bipartisan majority in congress, the president wants to spend the rest of his time in office , buting to his interests it is wrong. This tree as well from fred upton the charade is over ,espite seven years of bluster increasing Energy Security and job creation is not a top priority for this demonstration. Said, after seven years, the demonstration finally keystone xl,on on im for doing it was driven by cts. Tics, and not fa next is tom in california, calling in opposition to president obamas decision. It is early where you are. Caller it sure is. That is the worst decision in the world. It is so biased. The government with hightech state of the art projects. This is a pipeline, it is not moved, it transports oil. When a project is submitted, it is submitted to the government, the government then looks at the project, and they make their own modifications, which the state department did. They approved it. At that point, the project becomes the governments project because they would approve it. The sister glee this is strictly political. The present said, when he was elected, we were going to change our supply energy system. Regardless anything he said, this is harmful to the country. We have millions of miles of pipeline in the United States. It is just a one mans political opinion. It is harmful, and the stupidity of not looking out for the people of the country. Good benefit. The more energy we can have going, the better. The senator from virginia was on tv the other day and said, i think 82 of the Nations Energy comes from coal and oil. The Obama Administration supports stupidity by s, and goesalist along with it. You have to have people in office that work for the country. Host all right, malibu, california, we hear you this morning. We also want to make sure we get tweet from frank forone i commend potus rejecting the keystone xl pipeline, we have wasted end of time on this canadian pipedream. A story goes on to report that it would have little impact on the economy. A state Department Analysis concluded that the leave the pipeline would have created jobs, but the total represented 1 10 of 1 of the nations theal Employment Department estimated that the 35ject would create about permanent jobs. Yesterday, in his announcement, dismisst obama doe some of the economic arguments. Here is what he had to say. [video clip] president obama the pipeline would not make a meaningful conservation to our economy. If congress is serious about wanting to create jobs, this was not the way to do it. Wethey want to do it, what should be doing is passing a bipartisan infrastructure plan that, in the short term, could create more than 30 times as many jobs per year as the pipeline would, and in the long run, would benefit our economy and workers for decades to come. 13. 5usiness has created million jobs over the past 68 straight months, the longest streak on record. The Unemployment Rate fell to 5 . Pass angress should serious infrastructure plan, and keep those jobs coming. That would make a difference. The pipeline would not have made a serious impact on those numbers. What the New York Times had to say about the potential environmental impacts of the keystone xl pipeline. The story reports that the process of extracting the oil planet about 17 more warming Greenhouse Gases than the process of extracting conventional oil. Numerous state Department Reports concluded that the pipeline would have little impact on whether that type of inciting hisd, and decision for the reason, president obama said that the of theepartment findings pipeline would not have created a significant number of new jobs , lowered oil prices. What do you think of president obamas decision to reject the keystone xl pipeline . Our next call comes from south dakota, jeff. You are calling in opposition for this decision. What does it mean for where you live . Are you there . Caller yes. Host you are on the air. What does this mean for south dakota . Like to callld saying that i oppose his decision. Mayor of winter, south dakota, a small town on the pipeline route. We would have approximately 54 miles of pipeline, to pump wo pump stations. After the job is done, approximately 1214 permanent incentivea good tax for us. I understand the environmental concerns. Had worked on i many pipelines. I feel this one is very safe, very efficient. The Safety Record is very good. I feel that look at the accidents on the rail so far. Are twice ashere many, or at all as many, that could happen with the pipeline. I understand the aquifer. If you look at the maps of the pipelines currently there, it looks likable spaghetti. Host jeff, you say that you are of winter, south dakota, as you talk to the people in your town, do many of them share your feelings, that they are disappointed by the rejection of the pipeline, or is the town divided . Go ahead and turned on your tv, juef. We have not had talks of the decision. We have not had any meetings yet since the decision, but in prior talks, the town is about 5050 on the pipeline. , it would doeeling our town very well. Where we are sitting, is a pipeline comes, all areas will benefit all the counties through south dakota. There is a lot of opposition in this area, but personally, i feel it is a poor decision, and i feel we could have a very good economic boost. What is the economy like right now in south dakota and where you live . Have you been impacted by the plunging oil prices . Go ahead and answer, you are on the air. A real community, agriculturebased. We do very well. Good community, a hardcore community, and a very proud community. Said, we will welcome any of the aspects of the pipeline. I have been in touch and talking with keystone for the past few years on this project. We are ready for it. When the decision is made to do it. Again, i feel it is a poor decision. Host thank you so much for calling in. The next caller is julian from the louisiana. You say you oppose this decision as well, why is that . Caller i am for building the pipeline. The reason you build the pipeline is because the job creation. Off, both ends, it would be the same thing as to it. A hole and burying the reason you build it is so that for years after, energy will be cheaper. It is more money in their pocket to spend on other things. Those other things are other jobs. Host what are the issues facing the one of the issues facing the economy right now is that oil prices are so low. Do you think they could go even further . Isler what you want to do keep them low. If they can go low, thats fine. Even if it gets a nickel a gallon, that is more money in my pocket to spend somewhere else. A suitcaset to buy or a dishwasher, or something. The more money i have in my pocket, that is buying power, that is where wealth comes from. Adam smith wrote about this, the wealth of the nations. Look it up. Host we are taking your calls this morning on president obamas decision to reject the keystone xl pipeline. I want to get in a couple more headlines for you on that topic. Here is the story in the Washington Post on the job report. The story reports that the u. S. T is almost fully healed, raising expectations that the Federal Reserve will begin withdrawing support for the recovery by the end of the year. Government data released showed that the economy added a blockbuster 273,000 jobs in october. Unemployment rate dipped to 5 , and wages raised at the fastest rate since 2009. A healthy labor market can also give policymakers the confidence to raise its key Interest Rate target for the first time in nearly a decade. The wall street journal has charts showing how far the economy has come since the recession. Here you can see the jobs lost in 20082010, and the blue bar represents the number of jobs that have been added to the economy since then. You can also see the increase in the number of fulltime workers in the job market. The endbarely see, at here, it is just above where was pretty recession p rerecession. You can also see that wage growth has been stagnant since 2009, while the ampligen may have also fallen dramatically. Be will also be featuring sacramento, california as part bookr cspans city tour, coming up today at noon here and we will be talking about all of our sacramento literary programming, including an interview with the author of dan through the crack dandelion through the crack. [video clip] sagebrush andto sand. You see this big old sign in the desert. I thought to myself, we are death on the indian reservation. U. S. History in that the indians were well taken care of. Landwere sufficient, had to hunt on, and then i found out that we were right in the middle this 200,000 acres of sagebrush and sand, the indian reservation. Allhe middle of that were hold 18,000 ofto us. Host we are taking your phone

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