Shopping mall should ring should raise concerns about future attacks. We want to hear your thoughts about the safety of u. S. Malls and other soft targets in the United States. And what the attack on kenya means for us at home. Give us a ring. Our phone lines are open. If you are outside of the United States, it is 2025853883. Mail us at journal at sea span. Org. A very good monday morning to you. I want to show you some pictures from that ongoing attack in nairobi at a popular shopping mall. The us is from the front page of the globe and mail. Picture shows policeman hunting gunmen in the mall in nairobi, kenya. From the front page of todays usa today. One of the front page for you. This is the guardian. Pictures of soldiers and Police Officers searching for gunmen in that west african mall. I want to read to you from a piece from reuters this morning. That story from reuters coming out late yesterday. We want to hear your thoughts on concerns about u. S. Soft targets. What should we learn from the attacks in kenya . As a phone lines are open, i want to show you a bit of congressman peter king, a republican member of the house intelligence committee. He was on abc this week and said he is concerned about that terrorist group attacking the u. S. Heres a bit of what he said. A very sophisticated attack. Very similar to what we saw in mumbai. This was carried out by l shabbat which was raced out of some ali. Habbab. It was one of affiliates qaeda that is active outside of the United States. 50 somalisast 40 or have moved from the United States to be trained. Are looking into the somali American Communities today with any for any leads that may indicate any followup attempt in the United States. How about any information on whether any american somalians may be involved in the attack. Have you heard anything about that . I have not heard any one those involved in that. There are still 15 to 20 somali americans that are still active over there. That was republican congressman peter king. We want to hear your thoughts this morning. Heres another headline on the subject. This from the daily beast. Bit of thatad you a piece. It notes that in minnesota the mall of america holds lockdown drills twice a month. These are a precaution against random acts of violence like the shootings in washington last eek. If you want to read more of that piece, it is in the daily beast. Does the attack on the canyon mall raise concerns about you for u. S. Soft targets as theyre called. We will start with john from detroit, michigan, on our republican line. John, good morning. On nine 11 here, my first thought was the mall of america. I thought there might be a lesson elaborate planet would follow. I expected something large, such as a truck bomb. It would have been horrifying. As this is an israeli owned, westgate. I dont understand why we cant see red flags around the world anymore. Why things arent seen and prepared for. If they had snipers, for instance, you hate to think of things like that, i suppose, but in a place like that, this is located right next to somalia. You have to expect this. You have to expect the worst. John, are you talking about snipers at the mall . Be hard to, they can the staff, they can have other duties. There can be a number of them at and youplace like this hate to have to admit that you may have to do Something Like about themt what bringing it home to United States . Caller yes, i do. Fact, it mightas not be a bad idea to have former seals be part of the staff, blending and in the event that something does happen. I forgot which politician mention this, but you have to fight back at some point. That is my thought of the day. I just thought i would call. Vince onwill go now to our democrats line from cuyahoga falls, ohio. Good morning vince. I met union ironworker. Basically, democratic. ,hey had rallies in boston using freedom of speech to the hatred ofnce america. Its very alarming, its alarming. Im worried for my kids, my family, my grandchildren. Being a union ironworker, that is not something that comes easily. But i thought that when president obama got into office with that, there would be a change. Within a muslims views of when you talk about change, do you think changes should take place in america after this attack in kenya . Should there be increased security in malls and other soft targets . Caller caller right now we are talking about gun violence in america. Laws, they obey the need to be able to arm themselves. Background checks are awesome. I think that is great. What isople happening at the navy arts raises possible issues. Im very concerned about it. I do believe americans need to have the right to bear arms. Is vince from cuyahoga falls, ohio this morning. Attackscerns to the raise for soft targets United States. In, republicans to. Independence, also. King on the clip we played earlier talking about some of the concern over u. S. Citizens being involved in this. A story on that from nbc news. The fbi is investigating whether as many as five americans are among the small team of terrorists who took over that canyon mall. Investigation is in its early stages. That is a piece from nbc news on the Investigation Underway into that attack in nairobi. Here is the latest from the Associated Press us morning on what is happening at the mall. Efforts still underway. The ap notes that multiple large the mall. E rocketed black and gray smoke rose up from the mall. That was this morning about 15 minutes ago. What are your thoughts this morning on what that attack means for soft targets here in the u. S. Very mary is from new york, new york. Thanks for joining the conversation this morning. Caller good morning, yes. I am just so tired of the bombs and drones from america. That is what that is. And heat peter king speaks for his own culture. He doesnt care about anybody else. He is a warmonger. He speaks for the zionists. I wish they all would stop the bombs, stop the drones. Lets talk peace. I would ever going to hear peace again in this lifetime . Think talking you peace will better protect these soft targets that were talking about here in the United States . Caller im hoping so. The cause of someone mentions they put upeace and a flight to emphasize that, lets sit down at the table. We cant live like this. This is like the syrians. Provide and weo have to protect and we have to leave this place alone better than when we found it very it quacks the rom back reports refers to an earlier caller. The caller is right, the only way to weed out the bad guys from the good guys with guns. , oklahoman tom coburn republican. He was on cbss face the nation. Heres a bit about what he had to say about the attack quacks either have any specifics beyond what is in the press other than this is another indication that soft targets is where al qaeda is going. They are not on the decline. They are on the rise as you can see from nairobi. That was tom coburn yesterday on cbss face the nation. Piece, bine of that attack may trigger tighter security at malls worldwide. Screen] from paper on good morning. I think it is presentable. We have to put a sign up near sayingepublican vendors no guns allowed. Snarky, am just being but until we start treating the enemy as the enemy, we are doomed. That is all i have to say about it. Steve from pennsylvania this morning. Art is from new orleans, louisiana. Art, good morning. I have spent years in the military and been in combat situations. You are not going to stop anybody from doing anything to americans all over the world because there are people everywhere. The problem is that anytime a terrorist organization comes into the United States and recruits both black and white have as, that tell us we problem. Thatis not the first time area has been targeted. Is going to continue to happen until the people start speaking up. If you know people that are involved even if they are in your family, you need to bring that stuff out and stop holding onto it and then wish for something to happen that is not going to happen until everybody takes a positive look at exactly how this stuff is being committed and how successful they are. They have a lot of help from people saying things and theyre just not saying anything about it. Thanks for the call. We will continue taking your calls on the subject on the canyon mall attacks and what it means for us here at home. I also want to bring up that other story we talked about at the top, here is a headline from the front page of the usa today this morning. [reading from paper] talk about about the timeline for this potential shutdown and some of the votes that are going down this week, showing our eaders now a National Journal story from last week. What is the timeframe we are talking about . Procedural votes could begin as early as wednesday morning, but with the filing of cloture as early as today, a motion to begin to proceed, this could stretch out throughout the week with a couple of procedural votes and then perhaps in the on how itinal vote will handle last weeks house passed bill that does include funding of obamacare, along with a continued funding of the end of theed month expiration of the current funding bill. Host at this point it looks like its going to go right up to that funding deadline again. Caller the house itself does not get back to washington and does not formally get underway until thursday morning. House members arrive wednesday. They probably wont receive anything back from the senate until this weekend. Of course the deadline is next tuesday for when funding runs out areas essential government are no longer funded. Unless there is a new temporary spending bill passed. Youre talking about the house getting the bill back from the senate over the weekend and a tuesday deadline, that doesnt leave a lot of room for negotiation. Caller no, it doesnt. It puts Speaker Boehner in the house in a tough position. If you were to get a bill back from the senate on monday or sunday evening, he will have to decide how to proceed. As part of that, if a bill is brought back to the house, it does not he may have to rely on democratic votes if he can to get past. Or, he would have to decide and some other procedure or let Government Shutdown and blame it on democrats. As for compromises, i wouldnt call it a compromise but House Republicans thursday or maybe friday morning may even vote on tract. A debt ceiling bill that would allow the government to keep borrowing beyond what is anticipated to be an exhaustion of the current limit in october. They would add to that bill as well a defunding or delay of obamacare along with other provisions. Compromise, be a but it would be another way for House Republicans to save face is say, well, this battle the obamacare battle on the spending bill, but we are now continuing our fight with the debt ceiling. What is the timing on that debt ceiling. You said midoctober . Caller thats right. The treasury says they anticipate the current 16. 7 trillion ceiling will be hit. Congress and the white house will have to decide the white house disputes a decision has to be made, but Many RepublicanCongress Members say that they have to have a say on that and and force a vote on whether that can be delayed for another year. Houseyou can follow illi online. Thank you for getting up with us this morning, billy. Caller i appreciated, thank you. Is a story from the San Jose Mercury news. The story notes that the world wont end if a dysfunctional washington can find a way to pass a funding bill before the new budget begins on october 1. And Associated Press story via the San Jose Mercury news this morning. We are talking to our callers and those on twitter and facebook about the canyon mall attack, what concerns they have for you, for u. S. Soft targets. Laura is next from tasco, washington. Thanks for calling this morning. Caller i, hey, as far as the budget goes, you have to look at the comprehensive annual financial report, not the budget. Lets talk about those canyon mall attacks. Concerned far as im its just another false flag to take away our freedoms. Tsa, whatever. All not what you think it is. Hyattsville, maryland on our democratic line. Good morning. Caller i, good morning. I want to comment about the canyon shooting. Kenyan authorities should have expected this. To theo close insurgents. Think they should make Adequate Security available to them because if they know that terrorist nation, they always attack. I am not blaming them, but i think there should have been more of an effort and they have done more effort to secure places where more people are in public very host does United States need to do more of that at home . Does United States need to do more based on what happened in kenya . Caller whatever works in kenya would necessarily work in the United States. But having said that, i think we have a history of dealing with public shootings. Beefing up the street beefing up the security and the malls theres no indication that the United States is a target, although you have copycats who might try to in imitate that. Right now i dont think we need to do anything because that malls to provide more security and that means more money and therefore price of retail could go up. I do think at this point that would be a westing to do, at this point in time. Is on our independent line from North Carolina, john, good morning. Caller good morning, what are you up to . You know what i think . I think if the government would spend more time investigating insteadverseas events of monitoring the American People in spying on the American People, not only that, think about it, our border is still wide open. What is going to prevent other people from coming into this country . We have a Somali Community in this country. Shabaat. Are joining al we cant monitor anything. We have a president who knows nothing and does nothing. We use to take care of ourselves. Now we are dependent on what, obama and his gang to take care of us . I think we need a break here. They are trying to take our guns from us, you go to any mall, any mall at all, who had guns . The terrorists. What do you think is going to happen. Ok, thanks, but. Carol is on twitter and she notes that the attack means more here. Jaden miles wrightson on twitter, if malls are seen as a symbol of corrupted capitalism,. Hat would be terrifying you can email us. Here is an article from the Washington Post this morning. This from a reporter. When the local mall becomes a war zone. That is reporter rocco von in todays washington host. Post. Notice that in peschel are pakistan over the weekend, two suicide bombers on sunday killed everople in the deadliest attack against the nations christian minority. A wing of the Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility. Another terror attack that happened over this weekend. We will go to angela now from jacksonville, florida, on our democrat line. Angela, tell us about your reactions to these canyon mall attacks. Morning, i have to make two points. Klees give me the time to explain myself, ok . Host go ahead. Caller the first thing i want to talk about this he fact of glorifying bomb violence. The second point is the agenda of the companies in the world. And sixexploited boarding and corrupting the governments of other countries. Like our guns, we want to make sure that everybody in the world knows that we have the biggest guns. That is an example to anyone who would think of doing anything anywhere in the world. They want that gone, too. So they do the same thing that we do. Secondly, we dont want to give up guns in america. No one wants to give up their guns. The second point that i was talking about was companies that are exploiting in these countries. They manipulate the American Government into believing that the governments of these somethingeither have they dont like or something they like. At the end of the day, we going backt to speaking about the gun we will go ont to marry in georgia on the independent line. I amr i was going to say sitting here listening to your program in listing to the callers. Im trying to imagine how we protect ourselves totally. It is almost impossible. We are a free society, we come and go as we want. I just dont know how we would protect ourselves from terrorist act. I have heard your callers and no one has said anything as to how we really protect ourselves guns is not the answer. Hiring more police, hiring more security, it is not working. There has to be a better way. Thank you. Do you have any thoughts on what that might be . Caller he cant sit down and have an honest debate. You have the name calling, it is just impossible. As long as we continue down this road, we are jeopardizing our country. It is about our country. You cant have an honest debate. I listened to these people calling in. All they want to do is name call , blame game, that is not the answer. We as americans have to be able to have an honest discussion. In this country, you cant have that. I want to read from our Facebook Page. John kraus writes on cspan,. Facebook. Com cspan americas lack of gun laws make it ripe for or a weapon attacks upon our malls. Transportation hubs, sports arenas. John kraus writes in. You can join the conversation on our Facebook Page, but on the subject of firearms, here is president obama, a picture of him via the New York Times honoring the navy yard victims from that attack last week at the u. S. Navy arts. Were are going to play a little bit of what he had to say. Alongside the anguish of these american families, alongside the accumulated outrage