Host we are joined by jill stein the green Party President ial candidate welcome to the program. Guest good morning its great to be here thank you so much mimi. Host why are you seeking this thirdparty bidder what differentiates you from other candidates . Guest americans are hurting and theyre hurting for something different. They are tired of being thrown under the bus by elites. Half of people who rent are financially stressed keeping the roof over their heads. You have 4 million was student debt. Will banks be different as we are not bought and paid for. We dont accept corporate pack money. We dont sanction super pacs which is how billionaires can pour money into the routine Political Parties and campaigns from establishment parties and basically call the shots from the inside because as billionaires of bakers funding those campaigns of Political Parties. I have a unique ability to meet urgent needs with solutions that are proven, the work, that stop waste, fraud and abuse. Host how are you funding your campaign a party in general . Guest everyday people. The big parties, they function with super pacs. They work to support the campaigns that we disavow such things. They have all these loopholes including victory funds whereby a single donor can break one check for 600,000 or more and exert huge influence in the party and campaign. We have the best democracy money can buy and that is no democracy at all. We should be about everyday people and not the ones calling the shots of driving American People over the clip. Host can you tell us so much you prays for the Campaign Cycle . Guest since the beginning of november i want to say 300,000. We are raising money from small donors but we are a volunteer in small donor party. For us to get on the ballot because we are a Grassroots Network we have parties that participate in we have Ballot Access already. That will cost us 1, 2 one million to get on the ballot. For a candidate like robert of he was not a Grassroots Campaign , for him to get on the ballot it will cost 1518,000,000. We do things in a People Powered way which is much more costeffective. Host you mentioned rfk junior so i will show you the sideline which shows our Senior Campaign turndowns debate request. Why do you want to debate him and why do you think he turned you down . Guest i think the American People want to know who their candidates are and their policies and unfortunately, is par for the course for candidates to mislead the public and their supporters. Rfp claims to be a peace candidate but he is the most aggressive candidate and supporting genocide in gaza and the Israeli Massacre going on in palestine which is terrific and the majority of American People want to see a ceasefire and negotiate a solution. He is offer weaponizing in militarizing support for israel. We think it is important for the public to hold people accountable. It is the job of the precedence of the credit of cspan you will about all voices to be heard in the public to ask questions and demand transparency. We badly need debate but the major parties abandoned those debates. Mother donald trump or joe participate in debates and now rfk is following in that tradition to refuse to clarify its war policy. He says ill debate the big candidates. He wants to be in the category of trump and bided but they agree on way too much, especially about war. In the middle east it is not a negligible piece of the pie. We are sending huge amounts of money for the overall endless war machine. The middle east has been exhibited for in the sport and the consumption of our tax dollars. It is an explosive situation. It badly needs to be debated in front of the American People. This cannot be of peaceful candidate and support one of the most disastrous wars. Why did he refuse . He doesnt want to be held accountable. There is an alternative debate format called free and equal which is bringing many candidates across many parties and holding debates between libertarians, greens, socialist. That is a novel conversation we dont usually get to hear and rfk has refused to participate in any of those debates. But thats what democracy is about. Host we will open our phone shortly to anybody who wants to ask a question or make a comment for jill stein the green Party President ial candidate. Our phone lines are republicans 202 7488001, democrats 202 7488000, independents 202 7488002, if you are a member of the green you could call us at 202 7488003 or use the same line to texas. Can you give us an idea of the major tenets of the green party. There is the Green New Deal and where you stand on the big issues of the day . Guest sure. Let me Mention Health care. This is a crisis across the board. There is a solution which is also supportive which is to expand the medicare system which is the most efficient way to ensure health care. It allows you to choose your doctor. There are holes of medicare and it needs to be approved. We are supporting medicare for all which the majority of American People support the type of plan and this is across the political spectrum and it will not cost us money. It covers you from head to toe, cradletograve, your eyeglasses, hearing aids, Mental Health care, home care all things excluded the you urgently need and it saves us money. It doesnt cost us is saves us half a trillion because our current private insurance is so wasteful that one out of every three Health Care Dollars is being spent is basically being wasted. Medicare for all drastically reduces wasteful overhead. Thats an example of one of our policies which is most popular with the winning majority in poll after poll. Thats something the American People to serve . The reason we dont have a right now is because we have a corrupted business thats in the business of serving pharmaceutical business. It would be paid for in the tax base by a progressive tax. If you are middle income or lower your total cost goes way down if you consider the tax base he would be paying versus what you pay right now through premium said copays and all sorts of ways you can lead to pay for health care. Host you did mention student debt a medical debt and abolishing those two. How would you pay for that . Guest lets start with student debt. Let me preface this by saying, when you want to spend 100 billion on another war nobody blinks at night. We now have the military budget which is mostly getting us in trouble finding catastrophic war after war which we lose and costing us well over a trillion a year over 21 chilean since 9 11. 21 trillion since 9 11. We would enact efficiency by cutting that very wasteful and dangerous military budget by taking waste out of health care and saving half a trillion and other efficiencies and improvements that would enrich our budget and a very big way so we could do things that actually help the American People that create true security instead of squandering half of our budget is spent on these endless war machines. Where does the money come from . The same place it always comes from but the difference is used on behalf of everyday people here and we know for every dollar we spend on Higher Education we know this from the g. I. Bill. Every dollar we put into Higher Education comes back to us in the form of economic benefits. An economy that is seven times greater. Student debt is almost entirely money the government only owes to itself. Its not like there is some kind of payer. This would be an economic boost that would enable young people to start engaging the economies in order to have a secure financial future. Host with any thirdparty candidate i have to ask your role as a possible spoiler. In 2016 there were accusations that you drew votes away from hillary clinton. You got about 1. 4 one million in total. How did he respond to being a spoiler in this selection . Guest this is the propaganda of the elite nervous about losing their base. People who voted for green were people who would otherwise stop vote. We know that from poles and to people. It is also extremely undemocratic to say a Certain Party on the vote that Democratic Candidates are entitled to their votes. Thus the abuse built into their system. Democrats have not served their base in quite some time which is why they have moved over from democratic to trump because they are really angry at the democrats and the proof of it is, the election that was the most spoiled for democrats in 2010 when the democrats lost 1000 seats in their state legislatures. They lost 13 seats in the senate and 14 governorship. There was no third party they could blame it on. This was because the Democrats Holding the white house and both houses of congress had just built out wall street and throughout millions of homeowners. People were very angry and punishing the democrats and then is the underlying dynamic. It is not because the greens are stealing votes but there were huge buckets of people that would not otherwise follow. There are oodles of people who dont vote because they dont like these choices being ramped at our throat. The primary in michigan we had a substantial number like 14 of people who work abandoned biden saying we will not support biden , half of the democrats are half the people who came out and voted democrat in 2020 did not come out for the recent 2024 primary in michigan . People are fighting angry at these two choices being ramped of our throats who do not have a track record of supporting everyday people. Host i that in new britain, connecticut, democrat. Caller i turned off my tv so i would not disturb anything. I would like to know how do you think you could possibly manage a country as large as this without quite a bit more money then youre able to get from people like me. And i do spend money on the democratic party. Would you feel badly about taking the votes away from biden and giving them to trump . With this particular voting time without choice, and is so dangerous to have somebody like donald in that you would take away, i dont care how small of a number. Guest i get your point. I would like to speak to that. This is what the ruling parties want you to think. They want you to think that everybody out there belongs to either the democratic or republican parties. Polls show us the opposite. The number of people who no longer identify as republican or democrat is 50 . Doesnt 50 of americans deserve other choices . Polls also show it is 63 who want other choices. I would say it is undemocratic. This is the propaganda of the ruling parties and they want us to be the little boys or girls to do what they say which is to keep voting parties who are throwing aside of the bus. I find donald trump very worrisome but i also find joe biden very worrisome. To look at his policies that are driving us towards desperate war situations that are spending half of our budget, half of our tax dollars are being spent on endless wars like iraq, afghanistan, libya. These words are not making us safer or the world a more secure place they are doing the opposite and impoverishing us here at home leading to tens upon millions of people who dont have health care, housing, trapped in debt. We can fix these problems but we have to start spending our dollars for the American People not for the military complex and work contractors making out like a bandits and giving Campaign Contributions to those in congress and candidates in the mainstream party. Military contractors are exerting enormous influence. We call these the parties of war in wall street and we need a party for the American People. Host edward in michigan, democrat. Caller i have to ask about an extremely favorite photograph with jill stein with Vladimir Putin and Michael Flynn. It is the moscow gala in flint was giving the keynote speech. My question i guess would be, how did you end up at the table with Vladimir Putin and mike flynn . And if you recall what was he talking about . What would general flynn have to say about to the russians in moscow . Guest this was an International Media conference where i went to share the agenda of myself and the green party. We were calling for a piece offensive in the middle east and russia to stop bombing syria and not follow in the footsteps of the u. S. We were calling for a global prenew deal so we can address the Climate Crisis and like what is going on right now where the climate is an allout collapse. We were calling for the abolition of Nuclear Weapons. I was on a tour of capitals in europe and spoke to leaders including jeremy corbyn. I did not get to speak to Vladimir Putin but at the table where he was out for 10 minutes before he gave the keynote speech which was all in russian. He and his companions were all speaking russian and i was speaking english so there was no conversation between us. I met Michael Flynn who by the time had been a part of the obama administration. Not part of the Trump Administration at that time. He was a recent democrat official. And i told him why i was there to promote agree new deal, the end of Nuclear Weapons a piece in the middle east. That is where our conversation ended and i have no idea why he was there and i didnt hear his speech. There were many keynote speakers. I was at the conference which is why i was there. I thought it was important for the world to know we are not all on this track of being a global bully which is what democrats and republicans have record of endless wars. In my view we need to be part of a multipolar world. No longer a world dominated by the u. S. Empire because that is costing us. Just one quick thing, because of the propaganda promoted by the dnc which tried to smear me with that photograph. That misrepresentative photograph that was used to suggest i was in some kind of collusion. That was used to generate a rumor mill that led to an investigation by the Senate Intelligence committee. The results of that investigation, thank you so much for your cooperation. There is nothing to see here. It is not as though there was a malevolent reason for the visit. We should be talking to our adversaries as well as allies to address the crises that are drastically impacting us all. Host lets try to get more calls in. Lets talk to mike in washington dc. Caller i want to thank cspan for bringing in three party candidates. One thing she said i was right there are a lot of independents like its and tired of the two Corporate Party system, the democrats and republicans more in control of lobbying groups and the American People and they do whatever the lobby groups tell him to do because they are highpriced prostitutes being paid by these lobbies. I think its a good idea to bring in thirdparty candidates. For the public that keeps calling in and feel like they have the right to tell people who say they should or should not vote for. Shame on you you have no business telling any american citizen who they should be voting for. The black communities should understand this the most because we had to fight the hardest for the right to vote. Host any response there . Guest i would just say i think mike is speaking on the half of the majority of americans in so Many Americans are staying home because they object to these corporate candidates and really creating havoc in our lives. Things are not getting better, there are actually getting worse. Three billionaires have the wealth of half of the american population. Three billionaires that are funding the two Political Parties which is why they keep serving them. A big shout out for cspan that you are doing with the press should be doing which is educating the elect. And empowering us to understand our choices. Host on the republican line, frank. Caller hello mimi. I have been a cspan washer for 30 years and a quick note. I would love your hair it is incredible. I marvel at the ability of cspan moderators to tolerate some of these absolutely insane, extremists right wingers. I am a republican and i am and never trumper republican. For dr. Stein what ive been hearing over and over again is isolationism. It sounds just like donald trump. That bothers me because we need allies. We must have them. If that means we jump in for our allies is sometimes we have to do that. The problem i have with the thirdparty candidate and i am glad there are third party candidates. I welcome another voice. I like that except for one thing. Unfortunately, they are and none of the above candidate. If i may never trump candidate i am stuck with taking someone who is not my candidate. I am no longer voting for a person i am voting for the other person because i dont want trump and thus a problem and thats what i am stuck with. The party has shoved trump down my throat and voting for you, you guys get very little of the vote. Even libertarians get hardly anything. It does seem that i am not giving the vote for someone i would like to have his side of trump but you are not viable and you have run before a new record of winning is very dismal. Guest i just want to respond that when you are locked out of Media Coverage most people dont know who you are. People do not understand who the Green Party Ca