dickstein years after the presidency. -- his 16 years after the presidency. there's a lot of great books about the last years of presidents. william manchester of course wrote "death of a president." onone had ever done a book the reagan post presidency, and it's an idea that came from my younger son, mitchell, who was researching on a previous book i did about reagan. i had all these binders in the kitchen. his job was to highlight every time his name was mentioned. he was 11 at the time. asked, "dad, has anyone ever written a book about reagan after he was president?" that was about five years ago, and the birth of "last act." mr. lamb: was the most important moment in this book? well, i interviewed dr. roger peel, the head of the psychiatric unit at saint elizabeth hospital. he told me how reagan reach out to him because he wanted to have a private meeting with john hinckley six months after he tried to kill the president. reagan had the idea, on his own. he called and dr. daniel ruby, the white house position, and he reached out to dr. peele. said, "let me take it up with his psychiatrist." no. person, they all said hinckley was the most sociopathic, self-absorbed patient they had ever had. they would have misinterpreted the visit as vindication. never meeting him, because of the advice of the psychiatrists. one man told me, at one point, he was talking to reagan and said, it seems like he was talking from the clouds. mr. lamb: why would he want to do it? mr. shirley: it was his christian capacity for forgiveness. this was the man who was the of the free world. he met with gorbachev three or four times after the presidency. moscow.isited him in they became friends. a couple of years earlier, they had death grips on each other. reagan had an infinite capacity for christian forgiveness. mr. lamb: you write that hinckley was never "cured." why was he out from time to time from saint elizabeth? mr. shirley: he petitioned the courts. the further we get from the assassination, the further we get from his death, the further we get from jim brady's death. brady's death was ruled a homicide when he died last year. it was a direct result of hinckley shot, which hit him in the head. the forces of political correctness, and partially the time that has elapsed favor him getting out more and more. the memory is not as sharp as it used to be. mr. lamb: when did you meet ronald reagan? i was 21ey: in 1978, years old, working on a campaign in new hampshire. i was running against tom mcintyre, the incumbent. reagan had decided to run, but he was thinking about it. new hampshire was the first primary state. tned political-- tend the political fire. he walked into the old new hampshire highway hotel, the campaign headquarters going back to the 50's. he was a charming hotel with a couple of restaurants and bars, gone now, torn down, demolished. reagan walked into the lobby with a couple of aides. i was left alone there with governor reagan for a few minutes. we talked about high school , how and inweather of us liked the cold and new hampshire. he was utterly and completely charming. mr. lamb: what do you do for living? mr. shirley: that's a good question. [laughter] of therley: i'm the head public affairs company, formed in december 1984. i've never missed a payroll. partner died years ago. -- runs the firm, allowing me to pursue my passions, lecturing, teaching. mr. lamb: your other books, what were they about? they had never ridden a conference a book about it should mrs. reagan always said this campaign was the most exciting. i wrote the book, "reagan's revolution" in 2005. that led to my next book, which ."s, "rendezvous with destiny mr. lamb: i wrote down some of the disconnected things you put in the book. stanford turned up his nose at the idea of a library. why? mr. shirley: the same way that duke turned down the next library. obviously, that was a decision to have his library not there. stanford is liberal. reagan was conservative. thing,kind of a mutual they would kick each other's tires, then decide it wasn't going to work. there was private land, offered to donate. it was halfway between los angeles and -- mr. lamb: it was known hillary clinton hated the reagans. how was it known? mr. shirley: because of what she denouncing the 80's as the decade of greed. her behavior during the funeral. bill kept pestering everybody and anybody if you wanted to speak at the national cathedral. he ignored the fact that the program had been set years in advance. there were adjustments over the way. fred ryan jokingly said they had to make adjustments for the pallbearers, because reagan outlived everybody. it was always going to be the president of the united states, it was always going to be george bush. it was always going to be margaret thatcher. graham was the director for the ceremony, but they turned to john thenceforth, an episcopal priest. there is an unofficial do not admit list of the reagan white house. they wanted to make sure those people do not get to the funeral. oliver north was among them. where was the unofficial list? well, reagan stormed in his diaries about oliver north, claiming he briefed him at camp david about iran contra. he ran for the senate in virginia in 1994. reagan reaga-- nancy took the step of supporting his opponent. normally, she would never get involved in the primaries, but she did. there was bad blood on the part of the reagan white house and the reaganites towards north over iran contra. mr. lamb: anyone else on the list? mr. shirley: i will have to take a moment on that one. [laughter] mr. lamb: is it an enemy list? mr. shirley: no, but it's an unofficial list. an "not"not--it's welcome list." mr. lamb: he never spoke at harvard. why? itsshirley: it's anniversary took place during the presidency. he was invited to the commencement, but not presented with an honorary degree. it is perfunctory that they present them with a degree. they wanted him to speak, but no degree. the white house told harvard to off.p [laughter] mr. lamb: you say that there was a difference between the ordinary people of the country and the elites. it's like what the supreme court justice said about pornography, it's hard to define, but i know when i see it . there's a greater disconnected a than there ever has been. maybe it started with the reagan funeral. there's a greater disconnect, today, i think between the american people and their corporate leaders and political leaders. there's a corporate, political elite. the bank bailouts. so many issues with the american people are on one side and the political and governing elites are on the other. mr. shirley: you're right in the book about edmund morris. write in the book about edmund morris, about how ronald reagan was mysterious. your thoughts on this? it was a necessary. of when he came out -- a necessary period of when he came out. he had recently departed the united states. 70 books, which came out within a year of the departure of reagan from the problem was to build with him on the page in a way that would make them different and interesting. and he was a mysterious person, hard to figure out. for that reason, he was hard to write about. that goes contrary to the scholarship of a lot of other biographers. lou cannon wrote 5 terrific books. he would never have said ronald reagan was mysterious. marty anderson, myself, we would never have found reagan as mysterious or unknowable. it was allr said just nonsense. he was not unknowable. ofand nancy has zones privacy, and in some ways, the ranch was, other areas, just being on or sometimes--on a horse sometimes. he liked to read books. political tracts, economic tracts. person who was open and engaging and had been in the public eye since the 1930's. to say he's unknowable, i think that's a reflection more of the author not working hard enough to discover the individual he is covering rather than an indictment of the individual. are reaganow angry fans about the book? mr. shirley: very angry. "national review" devoted a half-dozen articles to tearing it apart. he goes between first and third person narrative, gets a bunch of facts wrong, creates fictional characters. he's worse to mrs. reagan. the idea that he was "unknowable " emerged. eguiled byb morris. he met with him during the last couple of years of his office, as facilitated by senator hatfield. he had written terrific books on theodore roosevelt and george washington. we talked about and compared reagan to theodore roosevelt. reagan was smitten with that. accessve him unfettered for two years of his ministration and into his retirement years in simi valley. after he seven days died. days, june 5, 2004. >> we only knows it's the two things made after president reagan--we only know of 62 things made anamed after president reagan. louisiana named the highway after him. only 62 things. people say we did a lot, but actually, no. now is the time that i hope everyone at the 50 states will do something significant. mr. lamb: that's 11 years ago. has the project going? -- how is the project going? mr. shirley: it's going well. 101 isn a one-- route named after him in california. to see aways surprised bridge or school or some other thing named after ronald reagan. his legacy is not forgotten. don't forget, the new york city government closed for the death of frank lynn roosevelt, for the death of john kennedy, robert kennedy, but did not close for the death of ronald reagan. mr. lamb: why not? mr. shirley: it betrays a political bias. mr. lamb: there's no other reason why, really. mr. shirley: i tried to construct a story line. i had a big white grease board. withstructed narrative titles and subtitles, and it all kind of falls into place. i wrote in the book as many as a half-dozen times, for news reports, then second, based on a library chair, then third, based on first-hand interviews, fourth, based on other documents based on other sources. i usually write a book. i don't write it once, i write at five or six times -- it five or six times. mr. lamb: in the back of the book, in the notes, there are interviews with several people, including fred ryan and a gentle man named jim holy? mr. shirley: yes. mr. lamb: why does he get attention in this book? mr. shirley: my books, some historians write from 10,000 feet. i write from ground level. i don't just interview jim baker neese. these are people who all had very good stories. what i have found is it worked very well to write from ground level. people have commented, my books have a feel that makes the reader feel like they are there. mr. lamb: what did jim holy tell you? mr. shirley: he told me all about the turnout in sydney california.-- simi, california. he talked about the backroom destinations at the funeral home. the process of transporting reagan in. it was very important to getting , inackground information terms of california. wasof the things he told me about how reagan and the entourage had flown after going to washington, and then back to at sundown, and how he and some friends boarded air force one. maybe a half-dozen people on board, and they spent the whole time we deal each other with old reagan stories. they knocked back a few drinks and begin a flying halfway house a former reagan white house employees. . isn't detail on that 128,000? that one 28,000? mr. shirley: it wasn't a 747. it was in service for president reagan until the end of his administration when the 747 was unveiled. fred was able to raise the money from a lot of people to get it. then, they had to build a huge pavilion out of the reagan library. it is an honest, but magnificent. mr. lamb: you say it is the biggest of all presidential libraries. why? mr. shirley: it covers the most square footage and gets more people than any other. simi valley is kind of off the brooklineh, whereas in boston is fairly easy to access. i have not been to many presidential libraries. reagan remains a compelling figure to the american people. beauty,t just location, it is about the individual himself. mr. lamb: chris matthews gave a speech back in october 2013. it relates to something you said in the book, and i want you to have a response. matthews: the party went on all afternoon. champagne.ed for it is amazing, this guy ordering of champagne on afternoon, on a weekend. the offers up a big toast, over-the-top. ,if i had a ticket to heaven give awayd not giveo, hell."d i'll go to [laughter] matthews: and they were great friends together despite being political rivals. mr. lamb: is this true? mr. shirley: there's a lot of mythology. if you want bipartisan cooperation, look at bill clinton and newt gingrich. he did not want to cooperate, but did though for political survival. people repeat the stories long enough and it becomes fact. irishmen, one from congress, when the presiden -- one the president. but so is the time and avoi -- thefills the time and avoi void, but it's not true. he did not collaborate that much with tip o'neill. he signed this bill, and can't find against it. gingrich fight against it. there was an insurrection among the reaganites against reagan. passes, and reagan signed it. the spending cuts never came. the 86 tax reform act was done without tip o'neill. mr. lamb: here he is talking about this relationship. reagan: i had tip and his wife over for dinner. then, i read where he had made a statement about me which was pretty harsh. "tipp, i im and said, thought we had a relationship, and now i read in the paper this." hey, this is politics. we are buddies, we are friends." mr. shirley: i think that goes to my point, that who viewed tip o'neill more skeptically. who was you closest to -- was he closest to? mr. shirley: obviously, nancy. some of the range hands. staff.an, a chief of steve kolo, head of the secret service detail. she saw friends, george schultz and others. they would come over the century city. -- two century city. active social life. dennismb: here is dens leblanc. up.y 9:00, he would be he would go for a ride. from 10:00 to 12:00, they would ride. whatever construction we would through with, would start at 5:30. mr. lamb: you said he did not make it to the funeral? tooshirley: could not, was grief stricken. he had an assigned seat at the library. that was the friday after he passed. seats.agan had assigned nnis' seat was empty. they were very close. a lot of people kind of overlook the relationship. he spent hours alone with reagan , chopping wood, horseback riding. they rebuilt the ranch together. there was reagan on the roof, and nancy said she was going into town for groceries. "dennis, don't let him on the roof." upre he is later, patching the roof. him," he says. it wasn't like father-son, it was like older brother, younger brother. mr. lamb: what did he tell you that you didn't know? mr. shirley: two years after the alzheimers, they were at the ranch. they were watching clinton get a speech. he jumped out of his chair and said, "we have to do something about this." just about him not being there. things like that. about how,told me when reagan left office in 1989, from ahad been on loan corporation. they could loan him to occasionally help reagan at the ranch. he was leaving office, and dennis tells the president, i don't think i will be obligatory time off from work to visit you anymore. he says, what's the name and phone number of your boss? reagan calls him, and a couple of days later, he gets a phone call from his boss informing him he is at ronald reagan's disposal that he is now at ronald reagan's disposal at any time he wants him. brian: did david tell you the moment that ronald reagan no longer recognize to me more? craig: yes. it was at the ranch. it was a weepy, said time. i believe it was august. several years before he passed away. it was the first time reagan didn't recognize sam. -- didn't recognize him. ronald reagan is speaking, no longer president, and you say this was a critical moment. people thought that they discovered he wasn't -- they suspected that something was wrong. brian: this is only 30 seconds. [ video clip] president reagan: for a minute there, i thought i was a bit concerned that, after all these years away from washington, you all wouldn't recognize me. [applause] soon, i will have to get one of those credit cards with my picture on the front. barbara was there. did you talk to him about this? craig: he only came to reagan's defense, saying that they teleprompter had been improperly loaded and that is what caused reagan's glitches in his speech. he was diagnosed shortly thereafter without timers. brian: -- with alzheimer's. brian: this was not in your book. this is a fairly long -- she lays out not the positive on ronald reagan and i want you to deal with this. 2002. april 26, let's watch. [video clip] >> i met his daughter in the playboy mansion. there is such a place in hollywood. to meetid, i want you my father. i think you can change his mind on nuclear weapons. everything go he said was inaccurate. he didn't know anything about data, statistics, cia reports, technology. so he would say something and i would correct him. he got quite uptight. so i held his hand and i spent half an hour reassuring him. he got a people -- a paper out of his pocket and read it to me. month'sthat his last reader's digest. he said, no, that is from my intelligence files. if i had to assess his iq, you have to with patients. i estimated clinically his iq to be about 100. it totally inappropriate to be president. what do you think? craig: his last book before he passed away was called the making of history. it, this foremost historian said that ronald reagan was one of our greatest presidents. when he leaves office in 1989, something the cold war. brian: how many times have we read over the years that he would plow cards and read from them? how do you? craig: explain that craig: -- how do you explain that? president obama uses a teleprompter. he wanted to be precise. to go off on 10 jets and he wanted to deliver a concise, consistent message, which i think shows he respected his audience. book, you talk in your patty reagan, one of his four children -- what were their relationships? craig: to her credit, toward the a walke very much became to nancy reagan. she was there all the time. she was there the whole week of the funeral at nancy reagan's reagan literally holding onto her. she was there when reagan passed away. and she is a very good writer. she inherited a lot her father's writing ability. 1960'sw up a typical california flower child who dabbled in this and chased that, dream and whatever else. very reliable, steadfast daughter for her mother. and now she writes books. look, i have four children. they have caused me headaches. you talk about the reagan children, but you can also talk about john adams's children or james madison's children. he had a stepson who was a gambler. abraham lincoln had his problems with especially robert. the roosevelt children never knew their parents. nixon and lbj had brothers who were shady characters. billy carter was bad news all by himself. presidents don't choose the families. brian: were you able to talk to nancy reagan about this? craig: no. i have a deal with makers -- with mrs. reagan. made exclusive to me files from the library for my four reagan books. in exchange for i wouldn't ask her for an interview. available to me only for my book. brian: did you talk to anybody who was around him when he was not knowing anybody and the alzheimer's had totally kicked in? craig: i talked to his staff. drake.fred ryan and they were the closest. doctors couldn't talk. but there was enough material that i felt like i could get a pretty good sense. brian: what was his day like? craig: after? brian: when he was in the worst condition. craig: he would get up and sit on the back patio and look out ,t the california coastline look out on the pacific ocean. but that was really toward the end when he was in his late 80's and early 90's. brian: what about the story where you suggest is an true about the lever? craig: that came from edmund morris. asked several reagan staffers about it, they said it wasn't true. i felt obliged i should put it in. brian: what is the story? that secret service agents would put leaves in the pool and he would rip them out. but they said it wasn't true. brian: how do you test whether or not someone is telling you the truth? because people want to put the best light on people like him. craig: right. i found that most people -- in fact, everybody has been forthcoming. if anything was suspicious at all, i would backcheck it. there is the written record against another ride witness, things that i thought -- another eyewitness, things that i just thought didn't feel right. involved with the story myself, at least the campaign. so i knew what was accurate and what wasn't accurate. not that i was deeply involved, but from my vantage point, i saw what was accurate and what wasn't accurate. it is a test. there is no doubt about it. won'tis one guy -- i mention his name -- but he insisted i interviewed him because he ran the bush campaign. jim bush ran bush's campaign. and she said -- and he said i really ran it. i really did. i let them think that they did. [laughter] you've got to be careful. brian: there is a controversy that you have been in the middle of involving george will and bill o'reilly. let's run the minute between those two men and then you can fill in the blanks. [video clip] >> without feeling any obligation to talk to ed nease, jim schulte, ed baker -- >> and why did i not talk to them? would havethey refuted -- >> no, because they have skin in the name -- in the game. motion in the game. we don't talk to anybody who is derogatory to the reagan's or anybody who was laudatory. we do our own investigation. "killing reagan" is a laudatory book toward reagan a you did not even mention that. >> it is not a lot a tory book. it is doing the work -- it is not a laudatory book. it is doing the work of the in attack republicans, they must destroy reagan's reputation. brian: in this book is the fifth book that bill o'reilly has done. that seems awfully personal. what was going on there? craig: i think it did get personal because of the vitriol that overly aimed at george. by george is right. it is not a laudatory book. it is full of half-truths and dubious facts and unsubstantiated rumors. it is not a lot a tory book at all. it is the opposite. brian: you had in your hand. has a each of these tabs corresponding page that has error in fact or a suspicious that is not correct in this book. it says out hague -- it says al haig was reagan's favorite foreign advisor. reagan never got along without haig. -- with al haig. reagan wrote in his diary that night, the only difference of opinion that i have with al haig was who was president. brian: how do you explain bill o'reilly in this book? craig: i don't. maybe he didn't write it. maybe he just wanted to sensationalize it. successful -- the navy -- the reagan narrative has ben this lightweight grade .ctor even with all the successes of his administration, historians reagannsistently rated lo, i believe out of ideological bias. i like to write about reagan because i grew up in the 80's. but i also write about the facts. i don't make things up. and i don't think ed nease or lou can make things up. succeeded in repositioning peoples thinking about ronald reagan so that the picture that emerges is of a very serious, deep thinking, .onsiderate, solicitous man maybe he wanted to push back against that narrative and paint a picture of somebody who was shallow and kadish and a lightweight. spencer who was an aid of ronald reagan and you say that he never spoke of his time in office once he was out ther. craig: no. in fact, lou cannon was asked about it and he said that the american public will decide. it was typically well for reagan not to dwell on the past. he did not hold grudges. didn't -- he liked to talk about hollywood. i think it made such a big impression on a kid coming out of the midwest, coming out of the great depression, going out to hollywood and seeing the silver screen and becoming a part of that culture and then succeeding in that culture. he happened to be very successful at it, too. momentyou had a poignant at the end of his life at the library, at the end of the nancy reagan is -- well, let's watch a little bit of it. you can tell us about the kids that are around her. [video clip] craig: she had been married to him for 53 years. stu spencer once told me about going on a political trip with reagan and going to the train station in los angeles. and she drove him there. the two of them are there in the the cabbiesing and are coming and going and the newspaper boys are coming and going and the businessmen and businesswomen are coming and going. the two of them are embracing as if they were the only two people there. said that he-- he had never witnessed such remarkable love between two people before that day. of hise the burden alzheimer's for 10 years. he wrote in his farewell letter -- i am paraphrasing, but he said the burden is off of the family and i'm fearful of what this is going to be to nancy. it turned up to be prophetic because it was very, very difficult for her. family came and went. staff came and went. doctors came and went. but she was there 24 hours a day, seven days a week -- seven days a week. she wasn't eating. she wasn't taking care of herself. her grief was not just losing her husband of 53 years, but of the pain of the previous 10 years. brian: we saw the children all their behind her. show -- ando maureen had died. here are a couple of clips with ron reagan, the son, and michael reagan on two different shows. [video clip] >> i am worried about him all the time because it's a tough job and he is stressed. it is almost like you are watching television. it momentarily goes out of focus and it snaps back. what did i just see? i didn't know what it was. i just knew that i was concerned about him for all sorts of reasons, the shooting not the least of that. but i deduced in retrospect that it was possible that some of those things were really signs of alzheimer's. i don't know. an embedded --as your brother was an embarrassment to your father when he was alive and now he is an embarrassment to your mother. >> there are people on the left who have said ronald reagan must have had alzheimer's when he was president of the united states and tried to use that to disparage what he did to the united states. and then he has a son who is here is the father you need to prove your point, when there is absolutely no evidence. brian: the family. right. a lot of presidential families have a lot of issues, a lot of problems they are under the bright international spotlight so everybody picks up on everything. now there is no doubt that ron wrote to the book. there is no doubt that there is a lot of controversy in the book. he did go to the mayo clinic after the presidency and after in mexicof a horse and had three holes drilled in his head to relieve the pressure from the fluid. but they did not take any brain matter to determine that he had alzheimer's and he was not diagnosed with alzheimer's at that time. families are families. the evidence is clear. staff's diaries, reagan's wasen he left office, he still an intellectually brightted, engaging, conversational, thoughtful man as much as when he entered office in 1981. brian: you've got a couple of things that are not ronald reagan related necessarily. one of them is on page 19 of your book. you taught -- -- you tell a story about mrs. nixon. mr. nixon showed little interest -- craig: that was from jim holy. he told me this story and i just thought it was two wonderful to leave out. it is not germane to the story, but it is a good backdrop to the story. she was laying there and she was pleading. tell nancy i wish i could have been there for her. and then she recovered. she waswhole time laying there suffering from a heat stroke, she is -- next -- nixon is talking about college football. she recovers and they go to the andand he goes to the door sits down and leaves his wife to fend for herself. brian: did jim really think that represented how richard nixon was to his wife on a regular basis? craig: i don't know. i did not ask him that. brian: later on in the book -- miffed atnow he was hillary clinton for not attending his wife's funeral when hillary was first lady. hold ase instead to fundraiser for a female democratic candidate to the white house. 2006 -- u write, "in craig: a hundred billion dollars. brian: is that the real craig hurley -- craig shirley stepping out on the page? craig: yes. it is true. wall street was bailed out to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. middle america has paid the bill. and no one on wall street has ever paid. and you wrote that no one jumped from a building, disappointing many. [laughter] craig: you write to that -- craig: yes. yes. -- 51ow, how many years years since john kennedy was and you still watch press conferences and they are highly informative and entertaining and utterly compelling. he had a gift for television. he was very cool. everyone goes to the famous nixon-kennedy debates, but you see his interview with walter kong kite -- cronkhite, there something compelling about this man that you want to believe him. you feel comfortable with him as being president of the united states. i think reagan had the same effect on people. brian: over wine and cheese, the matrons of georgetown said the anti-drug campaign was really about her public relations. and it was not? she did somek that good work. the lexicon.art of i think there's probably statistics out there that show lessened drug abuse and drug dependency in america. a lot of first ladies have causes. jackie kennedy had the refurbishing of the white house as a cause. lady bird had been vacation of america as a cause. betty ford had addiction and breast cancer as a cause. it seems like it was a pretty good cause to me, which was at least to endeavor to get people to stop using drugs. brian: one of the interesting things on your wikipedia site is how many books you are writing. you have already finished a newt gingrich book? with what publisher? craig: travis nelson. brian: is it a big biography? craig: i take the 20 most life,sting years of his when he first goes to congress when the republican revolution takes old and for the first time in two generations republicans take control of congress. of the 105th,s but everybody doesn't knows those 20 years. there are flashbacks and flashforwards. but they are basically about those 20 years. he was more than a foot soldier. he was a leader. brian: when is it coming out? craig: next year. craig:brian: you are writing a book on dr. howard snyder. craig: i have a house on the river. we had a family contest. i always wanted to have named property. we had a family contest and i wanted to name it animal farm. i thought that was clever and cute. and my oldest son matthew joked and he said why don't you call it trickle-down point? that's it. of "reagan's revolution" said it was a very good book but i showed the same economic in sensitivity to the poor that reagan did by naming my house down point. i have a contract with harpercollins. i am doing a book on mary ball washington. no one has ever done a company answer book on george washington's mother. my early research is showing that she was not rebecca of sunnybrook the . -- sunnybrook farm. and you have a fourth book on reagan. craig: he goes through a complete ideological makeover and adopts a whole new world view as far as taxes, communism, government, everything. -- hee changed from being hemophiliaclf a liberal. he later changed to becoming a republican conservative. bill buckley said the job of conservatives was to stand at fort history shouting no! reagan adopted that worldview but then decided that it is not enough to say no! brian: craig shirley and the name of the book is "last act, the emergency -- emerging legacy of ronald reagan." thank you. craig: thank you. announcer: four free transcripts or to give us your comments about this program, visit us at q hyundai.org. -- q and a.org. if you have enjoyed this week's q and a interview with craig shirley, these are more you might like. you can watch these anytime or search our entire video library at www.c-span.org. on the next "washington journal," bob q sex reviews congressional highlights of 2015. , who served in year in prison for campaign fraud, offers his solutions to and improveivism rehabilitation efforts for inmates. as always, we will take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. >> all persons have aim business before the honorable supreme court of the united states give their attention. >> monday, on c-span's "landmark cases," we will look at the case of one of the most divisive issues to come to the supreme court, abortion. decided ins wade was january 1973. that iscase controversial, that is .onstantly under scrutiny suppose,a question, i whether it will ever cease to be under scrutiny. an answer:alling -- wanting to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, but unable to, nor mama corgi agreed to be the plaintiff in the 1970 case the challenge that law, requesting she remain anonymous. the law suit listed her as jane roe. while she had the baby and put it up for adoption, her case made it all the way to the supreme court. >> the pregnant woman had gone to several dallas physician seeking on abortion but had been refused care because of the texas law. she filed suit on behalf of herself and all those women who have in the past at that present time or in the future would seek termination of a pregnancy. announcer: we will discuss the court's decision on roe v wade, it's impacted then and now. that's live monday night at 9:00 c-span 3, andpan, c-span radio. for background on each case while you watch, order your copy of "landmark cases" companion book. it is available at www.c-span.org/landmarkcases. announcer: next, david cameron takes questions from the members of the house of commons. and then john kasich at a town hall meeting in new hampshire eared at 11:00, another chance to see q and a with historian craig shirley, offer of the book "last act." in his final question time of the year, british prime minister david cameron said donald trump's comments are divisive and wrong. the government would be providing housing and health care for syrian refugees. this is 35 minutes. human rights that needs to be addressed where --ever it takes place. 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