Transcripts For CSPAN Location Privacy Protection 20140607 :

Transcripts For CSPAN Location Privacy Protection 20140607

Loan debt. It announced a measure late in the week that democrats plan a student loan push in june. What are they proposing to do . This is a way to lower the Interest Rates on student loans. What is interesting about this you have to look at everything especially that the senate is doing this year as an electionyear push. Democrats found the student loan push helpful when they took recontrol of the senate. They have done it repeatedly. It is an issue not only with young people but with families who are being squeezed because of the higher cost of living and higher expenses. It gets a lot of attention, but i would not expect this to clear the house anytime soon. They seemed to lay down the gauntlet to challenge republicans in the senate to support the bill, but so far nobody on the republican side is backing that. Right. Lets take a look at the house. Eric cantor releasing his memo, telling members what ahead for june. What are some of the top items we should look for as the house comes back . The veterans legislation is a top priority. They have been home for recess for two weeks. They are here for three weeks. They wanted to meet with their constituents who were worried about this. They are seeing pretty negative headlines back home across the country. They really care about this. In addition, they have a spending bill they will be taking a look at, and then figuring out how they will deal with the highway trust fund, essentially to be able to pay for it, they are going to have to cut Something Else. The proposal is to slash saturday postal delivery. That is something we are going to see in these three weeks. What was not in the memo was a little more interesting to me. Top of the list immigration reform. You see a huge push on is not just from democrats. You see republicans say we should be taking a look at this. You see them saying everything is on track for something to happen this summer. That is not looking all that promising, wasnt even mentioned. In addition to that, the Unemployment Insurance extension passed the senate on a bipartisan basis. We have been covering that very closely. That hardly got any attention at all. House leaders have said they do not care about that issue. Exports as well. One issue we are certain to hear more about is the release of Sergeant Bowe bergdahl. The chairman of the House Armed Services committee holding a hearing about that, and the headline what are they hoping to do it this upcoming hearing . It has been really interesting looking at this politically. Republicans have been able to capture Foreign Policy as their issue as the health care legislation, the president s signature domestic achievement, has been doing a little better in the rollout in recent months. So, they are focused on benghazi and now bergdahl. There are a lot of questions raised. Senators were very frustrated. They told roll call reporters as they left a private briefing that they did not feel the administration was giving them forthcoming answers. Senator mark kirk from illinois said he asked if the sergeant was a deserter and was told we will get back to you on that. While the president has been out of town doing the dday celebration in normandy, youre going to see a lot more focus on this and i expect a lot more criticism from republicans who are not happy about the entire deal. You can read more at rollcall. Com and follow her on twitter. Thanks for being with us. Thank you. Tonight, we will be taking a look at the Republican Senate candidates debate from south carolina. Six candidates trying to unseat the incumbent, lindsey graham. You can watch the debate tonight at 9 00 eastern time. Tomorrow morning, we will talk about the current primary season and the fight for the control of the senate in the general elections this november with jennifer duffy. Then, Washington Bureau chief of lumbar news will discuss Hillary Clintons newman mr, and the rosenberglds carol will discuss the status of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay in light of the recent release of five detainees last weekend. We will also take comments by phone, facebook, and twitter live tomorrow morning at 7 00 eastern on cspan. Book sundays at eight includes journalist tchen morgan sent morgensen. Sheet it on the balance and make it clear and make it evident and make everybody aware of how much it is costing, but when you deliver it through these thirdparty enterprises, fannie mae and freddie mac, and you deliver a subsidy through Public Companies with private shareholders and executives who can extract a lot of that subsidy for themselves, that is not a very good way of subsidizing homeownership. Read more of our conversation with Gretchen Morgenson and iner featured interviews cspans sundays at eight, now available for a fathers day gift at your ebert took seller. Favorite bookseller. The chair of the Senate Judiciary subcommittee on privacy held a hearing with witnesses from the Justice Department and the federal trade commission. The hearing is two hours. Called hearing will be to order. Welcome to the Senate Judiciary subcommittee on privacy, technology, and the law. This is a hearing on a bill to protect sensitive Location Information, a Privacy Protection act of 2014. Information, a Privacy Protection act of 2014. Three years ago, i held a laws were protecting Location Information generated by smart phones, cell phones, and tablets. The first group that i heard from was the Minnesota Coalition for battered women. They told me that across minnesota, victims were being followed through socalled appsng apps stalking specifically designed to help the stalkers track their victims. Let me read you some from their website. Here is one. It says, most of the time you think your spouse is being unfaithful to my youre right. Spyera will be your spy in their pocket. You will need to sneak your spouses phone and download it to their phone. After the software is downloaded, youll be able to see where they are geographically. If your husband is two counties over from where you live, spyera. L tell you that and of course, husband could be wife, or whatever you want to put in there. Flexis another one from spy. It gives you total control of your partners for without them knowing it. See exactly where they are, or were, at any given date and time. Here is another that has since been taken down. Worried about your spouse cheating . Track every text, every call, every move they make using our easy cell phone spy software. Onlinepps can be found in minutes and abusers find them and use them to stop stalk thousands of women across the country. Association for battered women cited a woman who was a victim of violence by one of these stocking apps stalking apps. She decided to get help and went to a county building. She got to the building and within five minutes she got a text from her abuser asking her why she was in the county building. , and son was terrified an advocate took her to a courthouse the courthouse to get a restraining order. As soon as she filed for the order, she got a second text from her abuser asking why she was at the county courthouse and whether she was getting a restraining order against him. They later figured out that she was being tracked through a appsing stalking through her phone. This is not just happen in minnesota. Nationally, it was found that 72 of Victim Services programs across the country had seen victims who were tracked through a stalking cap or standalone gps device. Objection, i will add to the record the accounts of a few other victims. Here is one from a victim in illinois. She was living in kansas with her abuser. She fled to elgin, illinois, a town three states away. She did not know the whole time her cell phone was transmitting her precise location to her abuser. Elginve the 700 miles to and tractor to a shelter and he tracked her to a shelter and assaulted her and tried to strangle her. Here is one from scottsdale, arizona. A woman and her husband were going through a divorce. Her husband tractor for over a month through her cell phone. Eventually, he he murdered their two children in a rage. These cases, the perpetrator was arrested because someone. Egal to stalk but it is not clearly illegal to market and to sell a stalking a pp. Nothing happened to the Companies Making money off of the stalking. Nothing happened to the stalking apps. My bill would shut down these apps once and for all those up it would clearly prohibit making, running, and selling apps and other devices designed to help stalkers track their victims. It would help Police Seized the money that is used by these companies to actually prevent stalking. My bill will prioritize grant to the organizations that train and raise awareness around these apps. And it will help the department of justice get up to speed on the latest statistics with stalking. That is a big deal because the latest statistics we have from the doj are from 2006. And at that point, they estimated over 25,000 people were being gps stalked annually, back in 2006. We know what Smart Phone Technology has done since then. Preventdoes not just victims of stalking. It prevents anyone who uses a smart phone or any mobile device connected to the internet. It makes sure that if a Company Wants to get your location or give it out to others, they need to get your permission first. I think that we all have a fundamental right to privacy, a right to control who gets your Sensitive Information, and with whom they share it. Someone who has the record of your location does not just know where you live, know where you were, where you drop your kids off at school, what church you attend, and what doctors you visit. Isation information extremely sensitive, but it is not being protected the way it should be. In 2010, the wall street journal found that half of the most popular apps were collecting their users Location Information and sending it to third parties, usually without permission. Since then, some of the most popular apps in the country have been found disclosing their users precise location to third parties without permission. And it is not just apps. The nissan lease on board commuter was found sending drivers locations to thirdparty onstaron store even after they canceled their service. They only stopped when i and other senators call them out on this. And a whole industry has grown up around tracking the movements of people going shopping without their permission, and sometimes when they do not even enter a store. The fact is, most of this is totally legal with only a few exceptions if a company gets your Location Information over the internet, then they are free to give it to almost anyone they want. My bill closes the loopholes. If a Company Wants to share your location, it has to get your permission first and put up a post online what the company is doing with your data. Once the company is tracking you, it has to be transparent or else has to send you a reminder that you are being tracked. Those requirements apply only to Company Getting your location of your device. All they have to do is put up a post explaining online what they are doing with their data. That is it. These rules are built on existing industry best practices , and they have exceptions for emergencies, theft prevention, and parents tracking their kids. The bill is backed by the leading antiDomestic Violence and consumer groups. Without objection, i will add letters for the record from the minnesota antidramatic views antidomestic abuse coalition, and other supporters of my bill. This bill is just common sense. Before i turn it over to my friend, the Ranking Member, i want to make one thing clear. Locationbased services are terrific. I use them all the time. When i drive across minnesota, they save time and money and they save lives. 99 of companies that get your Location Information are good, legitimate companies. I have already taken into account many of the industrys concerns i heard when we debated this bill in the last congress. I have cap liability. I have made complaints easier. And if folks still have issues with the bill, i want to address them. With that, i will turn it over to senator flank. But thank you, mr. Chairman. Thank you again to the witnesses for being here. I know you have busy schedules and i appreciate you doing this. I think we can all agree that stalking and Domestic Violence are serious concerns and that is why i was happy to support the reauthorization of the violence against women act. Today, like most of us that Domestic Violence and stalking our Serious Problems that need to be addressed. Im not away aware of any concerns that have been expressed about certain sections of the bill. Those that address the stalking the and those that address government to study gps stalking educate lawo enforcement about this problem. Having said that, there are sections of the bill that i think are still a bit concerning. The bill before us regulates the commercial rock commercial collection of geolocation and concerns have been raised about businesses that use geoLocation Information to provide consumers with services they now rely on. I would like to enter into the record now letters from the National Retail federation and the advertisement bureau if that is ok. But without objection. Without objection. In our effort to reject the privacy of effort to protect the privacy of americans, we have to make sure that we do not affect the economy in our over that. We want to make sure that we do not hamper develop and of new products and technologies. With that, i look forward to the witnesses. Thank you. Flake. K you, senator witnessespanel of have seated themselves. Thank you. B hansen is the principal director Deputy Director of the department of Justice Office on violence against women. Before joining the ob w, miss hansen was the director for services and chief officer for safer writing, a safe inizon, and she was raised st. Paul, minnesota. Jessica rich is the acting director of the girl of Consumer Protection. During her time, she has led major policy initiatives elated to Data Security and emerging technologies, and overseeing Enforcement Actions and developed significant ftc rules. She has also received the chairmans award in 2011 for her contributions to the ftcs mission. Mark goldstein is the director of physical infrastructure issues for the u. S. Government accountability office. He is a frequent witness for congress and served as senior staff member for the Senate Committee on homeland affairs. He testified about two different studies at gao conducted a at my the subject of Location Privacy. I would like to welcome you all. Thank you for appearing. Your written testimony will be made part of the record. You each have five minutes for anyone opening remarks you would like to make. We will start with miss hansen. Much and goodo afternoon, chairman franken, Ranking Member flake, and mentors of the committee. Thank you for the opportunity to andify regarding stalking location devices and privacy. I am the Deputy Director of the United States department of Justice Office on violence against women, or ob w. One key way that the department of justice has focused on strengthening the apartment of justices respond just ass response to violence against women, we have made significant strides in enhancing the response to stalking. Congress has been a Strong Partner with us to address this issue. Amended94, congress has to understand issues with this crime and broadening the stalking statute to protect victims of cyber stalking and enhancing penalties for repeat offenders. Recentst year in a most reauthorization, congress closed a loophole in a federal cyber stalking statute to permit federal prosecutors to pursue cases where the offender and the victim both lived in the same state. Congress also amended the jane cleary Campus Security act to require that universities report Crime Statistics on incidents of stalking. As you both know, stalking is a complex crime and continues to be misunderstood and very much underestimated. Incidents of stalking behavior when considered separately may seem relatively innocuous. However, stalking behavior tends to escalate over time and is often paired with or followed by Sexual Assault, physical abuse, or homicide, as chairman franken has pointed out. Feel isolated, vulnerable, and frightened, and tend to suffer from anxiety, depression, and insomnia. 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence survey, which was released by the cdc in late 2011 demonstrate the grave scope of this crime. Using a conser

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