[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] ick nick >> how many of you knew who newly newton was? there is a few of you. he was the founder of the black pant they are organization. and he got to study under his brother and mason got the full dose when he was out on the west coast. he was accused of wantsing to severe. any way, tonight, we are excited to welcome two people to the podium tonight, one is a little xtra special hometown touch. >> we are going to focus on, first of all, welcome to the microphone of peggy hubbard, who is a local and you will see in ios. bios, the b we have outstanding speakers from around the world. we have three people, one from peru, and two from ireland and we are blessed to have their presence. tonight, i want to open with peggy. and give us a snapshot of why it's important that we speak out and why somebody who has been so involved with law enforcement ide of things speaks out and een a wonderful spokesman. the second speaker, i don't have to introduce the sheriff. the sheriff is coming to town. [applause] . >> how about that election? cheers and applause] well, donna put me in a restraint here, and i'm going to make it fast and make it good. the onlt way peggy can do it. i get asked why did you speak out and i said why not speak out . i spoke out because a little girl, so much hope and promise, sitting on her mother's bed, bullet to the chest, only thing she was looking forward to was the third day of school and it was taken away from her. while it was taken away from her, a drug dealer was killed. there was no mention of her. no mention of her promise. no mention, period. but my neighborhood burned until i spoke out. when you have over 4,000 people shot in the city of chicago in over 490 people are dead and your mayor offers you a sanctuary city while your citizens get body bags, i speak out. [applause] have been called a coon, sellout to uncle tom. there is one name they can never call peggy and peggy will not be silent. hey called fill is shaff lee , ogant, asserttive, a bitch they called her everything, but you know what? she spoke out. she never spoke down from a fight. when she was right, she stood on her morals and principles. i hope to be an inspiration to people to step up and speak out. on july 3, my husband who is law enforcement here in stews was stop. ice in a traffic charlie, over there. he survived. [applause] he took two bullets [applause] >> when that happened, i spoke out. when we have veterans that are laying on the floor in veterans' hospitals in vmplt a. hospitals and eir only crime punishment is becaused they served without any dignity ti, without any any faults, we don't pay enough respect for these men and women that support us, defend us and defend our flag and constitution and for that, i speak out. [applause] when a son is killed in chicago, just because he is a son of a drug dealer and vendetta needs to be paid and that child is that casualty of that vendetta, i speak out. o child should be afraid to go outside and pray. and they are going to get a bullet. no child should be forgotten and our past administration has forgotten all about that. we say black limbs matter, how about all lives matter, how about i tallin lives matter? we all matter. there is no diss qualifier and o representation of what matters more than life. forgot our administration that left us, they left us with crime, they left us with a lack of respect for police officers, first responders, veterans, when they can take our flag and wipe their behind with the flag that so many men and women defended. i speak out. and any question to everyone is why aren't we speaking out? because this is our country. this is our faith. this is our promise. and for us to sit back and do othing, like the great dr. martin luther king said and he said in this statement, and it is true, speaking out is very important and you see it, once our limbs begin to end the day we begin silent. why are we not all speaking out? that is the promise that dr. king, gandhi, rosa parks, medgar everies, great people spoke out. sheriff clarke, my grandfather, o walked across the pet ties bridge and spent the night in jail, he spoke out. it is our duty. it is our constitutional right to speak out for all. not just a few, not just the poor, not just the rich. it's called being human. we speak out. i speak out. i leave this with you tonight. when you go back to your communities, ask your selves, things are as bad as they are in our country and watch our cities burn, as our president did nothing about it, as our priffers died and our president did nothing about it, why haven't we all spoken out? speak out. we cannot win this fight, ladies and gentlemen, alone. we need each and every one of you to speak out. i have been called every name possible. but peggy hubbard doesn't cut and run. and i'm here to tell you i will continue to speak out. thank you. [cheers and applause] . and it might be.org sheriff clarke: do a blog there and i have a book coming out in march, first book. t is titled "cop under fire" subtitle yeoh beyond the #of better politics. if you heard me speak on tv and many of you have, you know my style. i give you things unvarnished. trife truthhe god's and i think you will find the book to be the same way. and it isn't a resuccesstation of everything that is wrong. pre-order now on a.m. done.com neble. sdelen and d debutted, 39 on the amazon 39 top 100, very proud of it. my first book. and it was trending at number one in several categories, one was politics and another category, so keep that in mind as well. good evening and thank you for the opportunity to join you here gateway city at to state my view which is backed by 38 years of experience from the groundup level in policing. i have taken a few public stances that they call brave, but i call it common sense. have spoken in second amendment. and i have spoken in support of the american police fierce and as a result, i have been overwhelmed to speak at events such as this one here this evening. nothing in our american life, ladies and gentlemen, means more to me than our constitution. it is a great founding document that establishes the rule of law in this great country. i carry one with me. i keep them in my vehicle and desk.ome in my home, my and in my backpack that i travel with. i have one handy. why? because i took an oath to defend this when i was sworn in sheriff and i said i will defend the constitution of the united states and this reminds me of he eeth that i took. one of the other reasons this means so much to me is because it was this document, that freed my ancestors from the bonds of slavery. it wasn't the united states supreme court. it was the 13 of amendment to the constitution and the 14th amendment as well. it guides my actions on a daily basis and reminds me why i hold why i ce and remind me was placed mere, to guard freedoms. this sparks sotch passion,ville fix as the subject of guns in america. ask yourselves why. why is the second amendment treated like the bastard child in the bill of rights? treated that by the mainstream media and liberals in the political establishment. for too long, the individual hasn't mattered. if you aren't part of the special interest group and don't you a powerful lobby group, can't participate in important discussions. i took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution and the constitution, ladies and entlemen, does not come a la carte. t's all inclusive [applause] sheriff clarke: not granted by inclusion in some group or cast. and when we start down the road of picking apart the constitution to filth an agenda. my friends, we are headed wards a great zarqawi road called tyranny. many of these attacks on the second amendment rights to keep d bear arms are pretty phenomenon. and the right to keep and bear arms was never seriously questioned and the only last 30, 40 years that this right has been challenged. ? 1775, here in the new world, a group of founding fathers understood the threat by a strong centralized government. and created strict rule that limits the power of government. within that places the power with the people, the individual and the states. you see, they understood that government tyranny so they included safeguard and knew only an armed citizenry could keep government in check. folks, it is a truism in the germany and rendered them defenseless from attacks. and then there's the issues of the right to keep and bear arms. let's visit the issue of slavery. one of the hall marks of slavery was that it was illegal to armed slaves for them to possess weapons. why? so that slaves could not defend themselves during the states or against mob violence or lynching. the 13th amendment frees the slaves on paper. only the ratification of the 14th amendment ordering that the second amendment applies to the states as well and thus defend themselves against mob violence, did napping and lynching. my ancestors shed blood for the right to keep and bear arms for self defense. i'm not going to cede that right back to the federal government. [applause] sheriff clarke: when it confronts us with criminal behavior as well. a gun in the hands of a law-abiding hands is not a threat to society but a threat to the criminal element. and i have spoken in defense of the character of the american police officers. since the events that led to riots in missouri, policing has been scruteniesed. and it fills our airwaves and the police that support should be scrutinized. locally, that is. it should be examined under circumstances that led to the police action, not from an emotional foundation, a false narrative and catchy slogans. justice, no peace or black lives matter. american policing are distributeable only to differenceses. now that's inclusive and might be ugly to some but what the data and research show us. data and incarceration true of the police force data. and violent crime explains that the disparity of why so many are arrested, prosecuted and arrested in a system of justice renowned for protecting the rights of the accused and the protection of individual due process. we grant that here in the united states. and this reality is not the result of a discriminatory criminal justice system and the push of the past four years of greater federal control. the greater the few elements of local government, ladies and gentlemen, that truly works in this society is just plain wrong. our police agencies has been bluelined between order and chaos. our communities would did he involve in the great city of baltimore and the city of charlotte, north carolina and what was re-enacted and the only city that i have ever called home, milwaukee, wisconsin. we shouldn't take it lightly. in fact, we shouldn't do it at all. it is local law enforcement that has been on the front lines in preventic and controlling crime and seeking just punishment. we do not need another level of ninformed bivetted bureaucracy confusing our best efforts towards justice. [applause] >> the people that i want to transform this profession has never done our work, not even for one day. they get to make decisions over coffee looking at video screens like an nfl. we make decisions under the stressors of fear and adren lynn. and this is through residential neighborhoods and fences and alley ways sometimes with our guns drawn. who else has to work like that. through surgeons, airline pilots, through mayors. no. we do and the military does and net that makes this profession special. and those who judge our actions. [applause] >> those who judge our actions need to be educated about the world that we operate in. they need an endless narrative that reminds us that leads us to the moment of decision making and the 10 seconds they see on tv and which they qualify to judge. what we all witnessed in rguson in missouri was a tragedy. it was unfortunate for wilson and mike brown. what followed, however, come ponded that situation from people across the united states converged on the great city of ferguson to exploit. what is called for at that moment was an appeal to reasonableness, reasonable rhetoric and cautioning a rush to judgment. d a commitment despite the sanction at this time to the rule of law and the limbs of our great citizens. instead, very powerful people made statements, statements that ly height i yield back tensions. blown a spark ve into an ember and ember too a fire that shortens the short-term. a fire that has engulfed the fierce and ambushed attacks. ladies and gentlemen, race is and has been and always will be an explosive issue in america. get used to it. it has been in my lifetime and has been in all of your lives as well. but the rhetoric used by but the incendiary rhetoric used by those in positions of power, those who knew better created and continue to allow a pathway for a false narrative that it became the rally cry for cop haters all across america. a broad brush has been used to a unfairly malign the reputation of the profession of policing here in the united states. the accusation has been made that our communities find is systematically engage in the practice of targeting our youth because of the color of their skin. that that claim is patently false, and i will spend the remainder of my time in policing fighting that hateful lie. [applause] >> not acknowledging the underlying myth of the black lives matter movement and the false narrative of police involved killings, it's counterproductive to the common a good of this great republic. a feeding frenzy of race provocateurs, self-serving prominent politicians at the highest level of state and national government, and our kids, and dozens of other groups sensing an opportunity to exploit a series of tragedies have seized upon this moment to advance their own selfish agendas. those who oppose the rule of law are causing great damage to the profession of policing that has been my soul lives work. they are trying to undermine the trust that primarily minority and disadvantaged residents need to have in their communities finest. i have since those at the highest level of government have created a tipping point within the psyche of our officers in which many are beginning to wonder if this honorable work is even worth it anymore. that is how damaging, irresponsible and inflammatory rhetoric can be. pathetically, many choose the benefit by throwing our nation's finest under the bus upon certain demographics. we all know and have always known that every person who died at the hand of a law enforcement officer deserves a thorough and transparent investigation of those circumstances. facts and evidence must be applied to the rule of law standard to make a determination of what happened and what should be done. and the rule of law must not cave to the emotional and impassioned pleas of the mob. doing so has led to police pulling back in high crime areas where good, decent, law-abiding people live. people of color are the greatest losers in all of this as violent crime rates skyrocket over time. this means more minority and impoverished crime victims. our profession is strong and we endure. the rule of law in america, while seemingly and momentarily bowed, it is still strong. today, juries of our communities have gotten right in these matters. most notably and recently in the baltimore verdict, related to the travesty of justice that was an indictment of six officers in the sad death of freddie gray. these juries and judges have countered the biased motivation of the powerful. and finally, i want to speak on two emerging issues on the radar screen in criminal justice, sentencing and prison reform. because any discussion about reform in these two areas that does not include a calendar view that a counter view about the consequences of a short-term technical fix and its impact on crime victims will have catastrophic consequences, are already stressed minority and impoverished communities. artificially reducing prison populations or altering sentencing practices is bitterly shortsighted. the reset of this nature of -- the recidivist nature of criminals will cause more minorities to be victimized by violence, and the left claims to care. with 1715 total commutations during his presidency, president barack obama used his constitutional clemency power to shorten the sentences of more federal inmates that our prior -- then our prior 11 presidents 333ined, culminating in presidential commutations on his last day in office alone. obama's commutations were for people serving life sentences. and it is true, it was within his constitutional power. of course a more advisable criminal justice policy reform approach is to attack the pathologies that increase the likelihood of criminal behavior. in my view, the best prison and sentencing reform is to enact policies that reduce unemployment, that improve k-12 public education, reduce father absent homes, and send a message that criminal behavior will be met with severe consequences. [applause] that, ladies and gentlemen, establishes accountability for unwanted behavior. but that's the hard work. it's easier for some to just open up a jailhouse doors. i'll close with this. our -- our police officers perfect? not by any stretch of the imagination. police agencies perfect? not even close. but we are the best that our communities have to offer. the overwhelming discussion we need to have as a nation is one that addresses the behavior of people who have no respect for authority. about why so many fight who try to disarm the police, flee from the police and engage in other flawed lifestyle choices. officers at the local level put on the uniforms and they go out every day. they spent their lives work making their communities better and safer places to live. the world that offers operate in is recognized by our supreme court as complex, dynamic and rapidly evolving and one where unfortunately things can and do go wrong. when that happens the american law enforcement officer needs to know that after an impartial and competent investigation, the facts and evidence of that particular case will be applied. they will be held to the rule of law standard for decision about their actions. because after putting their lives on the line they do not deserve a standard of the false narratives, preconceptions, misconceptions, emotional rhetoric, or racial demagoguery from a ranting mob. ladies and gentlemen, thank you. god bless you and may god continue to bless the united states of america. [applause] >> do we have the microphone to move around? can our staff did that for us while we are waiting? let me just comment a minute. i want to thank you for all you have done and all your common sense that you shared with us tonight. many of you probably don't realize the difference, and i had forgotten it. but the difference between a sheriff and your police and your federal officials. the sheriff is elected locally, and as such he has to answer to the people. i think of all the law enforcement, they are the closest to the people, the chief of police in our local communities come next, our country was founded on the idea that local constables were important. that we knew who they were, that they knew who we were, and that when something went wrong we could talk with them. and it was not a police force that came in from far away and basically didn't know who you were and what you are all about. and so i think for us to have the sheriff tonight really says -- sets the tone about we as communities our round -- around our country should be looking towards, to reestablish if you have an elected sheriff, get to know him. if you have a chief of police, get to know them. because i think we need to open those dialogues and support them where we can. as you can tell by connect this desk by tonight, this is one of the things we've been trying to do is to focus on those people that are closest to us who basically are there to respond and keep us safe. do we have our microphones? if you want to put your hand up for a question, we will do so. and remember, one breath. ok. i have one right down in the front. wait, wait, wait. come back. i'll point to the person. sorry. this will be the first one. go ahead. >> sheriff, thank you very much for being here tonight. sanctuary cities are much in the news at the moment. i wonder if you could speak to what you think of them and what should be done about them? >> it is high time that we deal with this concept of sanctuary cities. sanctuary cities as you know are those safe havens that some communities mainly run by democrat liberal progressive mayors and other county officials, really they are looking for a future voting base. that's what this whole thing is about. don't kid yourself about the stories you hear, about the crocodile tears about splitting up families and so on and so forth. nobody is trying to do that. but the fact is that we have allowed this problem of illegal immigration to grow to the point that it has now. i don't know if anyone is an exact number i heard anywhere between 11 and 17 million people in this country illegally. if you're going to be a sovereign nation you have to have borders and have to defend those borders. [applause] you cannot allow people to illegally enter into your country and take up residence. you just cannot do it. but we let this go to this point today. from a criminal standpoint, because the former president barack obama dismantled some of the things that we had at the local level where we could assist. we don't have federal immigration authority at the local level. cops, sheriff's deputies, sheriffs do not have authority to enforce federal immigration but we can work with ice. immigration and customs enforcement. we can work with them. they're the ones that do the investigating. they are the ones that do really the work on immigration and, but since from the criminal standpoint all, through a county jail once they are arrested. that becomes a conduit with i.c.e. where they come in, take a look at the criminal population, do an investigation on individuals that they deem it. i don't have anything to do with them in terms of look at the this guy or this guy. they decide who they're going to look at. if they feel that in a very short period of time that this person may be in the country illegally, they put out a detained or. this is a lawful order to hold somebody. but it's not enforceable at local officials. a sheriff has to want to cooperate with them in that detainer. way, the person who became kind of the face of illegal immigration from a criminal standpoint -- kate steinle, i.c.e. asked that guy, people want say allegedly, i say killed her. he did. they asked that he be detained and the sheriff of san francisco county, whatever that is, san francisco is a sanctuary city and let the guy go he ends up killing kate steinle. i will not allow that to happen in my county. i will not allow that to happen. [applause] ice comes in and asks for a detainer with us, i do hold onto them until i say we're done or ice takes us that takes them into custody. we've got to get our hands around this problem. if we do not do it this time around, within the next four years, it's never going to happen. it's not going to happen. this might be our last chance. >> my question is actually for peggy. my grandchildren's father is a salt lake city policeman. what does my daughter tell these little children when they are hearing that police are being shot every day? >> well, what i usually tell people, honesty. they need to know. that you are some bad people in this world, and the police officers are here to protect. when i was in law enforcement, and i would go to the store in my uniform getting off duty, parents would tell their children, if you don't behave yourself, the police officer there is going to take you to jail. it's that basis that frightens children. they put that fear in the children. the children have that fear not to talk to the police, not to communicate with the police, not to cooperate with the police. so when they put that seed inside of a child. what you see on the news is the outcome. stop telling your children that the police are going to lock you up. stop putting fear, because they are not there to lock you up. they are there to help you. because if they get in trouble, they won't run to the police because they think the police are the bad guys. and that is what we see from ferguson. i have seen children out there throwing rocks, and my husband was on the front line. they were throwing rocks, urine, feces. and these were seven, eight-year-olds. so we have got to get a collective effort to stop telling our children the police are going to lock you up if you are bad. the police are going to come and get you, they will shoot you because you are black. that is what we are seeing in this country. we are seeing an anti-police sentiment, and that has got to stop. until we come together and tell the truth, and stand up for the blue and hashtag back the blue, then it's never going to get better. it's always going to be this hatred towards cops. that is what you tell them. they are not here to harm you. they are here to help you. and until we do that it's never going to get better. [applause] >> the rest of you, if you have any of the questions we will take a couple more. >> sheriff clarke, thank you for who you are and what you do. my question is a simple one, and i think probably several people in this audience feel the same. what can an everyday person like me do to make a difference? >> you know, i get asked that question a lot, and what i find, there's a lot you can do, but everybody wants to move mountains. everybody wants to solve some of these big-time problems that this country is faced with. they want to do it all at once. but i use the analogy how do you eat an elephant? one spoonful at a time. how you can help is make a a difference in the lives of people around you, ok? and you can do that on an everyday basis. you do that for this child over here for this adolescent over , here, for your kids over there, for your neighbor over here. after a while you've made a difference in the lives of a lot of people. we don't look at it that we. -- that way. we want to do the big stuff. we want to cure cancer. i get that, but the reality is you are only going to be able to move the stone a little bit. stop trying to move them out. -- move a mountain. just move the stone a little bit. here's one thing i am saying that i'm starting to try to encourage people to do more and more, and it isn't just since the election of donald trump, the 45th president of united states. a lot of donald trump supporters were underground. i knew there was an undercurrent. i knew it. i was sensing it everywhere i would go. everybody was trying to do this in secret. they would whisper to me. there is a sheriff, i am voting for donald trump. i would at them and say why are me?whispering it may -- at we got to stop walking around eggshells. you have to become a voice. the people on the left are ugly. they will do some ugly stuff so i get why people are that way. we've got to stop that because the left is loud. they don't walk around in fear of who they support for elected office, their causes. they show up with thousands, you know, a lot of people at a a rally. that's another thing you can do. organize a rally, something like support for your police department. you know, use your social media and whatnot, your e-mail list. so what if 25 people show up? that's a start. you've done something because you've shown these folks, point to the chief down here, you've shown them, this community cares about you. that means a lot to the psyche of a law enforcement officer. we know we have your support, but we don't get to see. we only get to hear from the cop haters. we want to hear from you folks. so things like that, there's a lot you can do. you will figure it out, but gosh darn it, start being heard. stop whispering that you voted for donald trump. ok? [laughter] [applause] >> thank you, sheriff. i don't whisper. but i want to ask you, in ohio we have to jump through a lot of political hoops to get a concealed carry. i would like to know what you feel, would you rather us have concealed carry or open carry? >> both. [laughter] no, because these are individual rights and it's your choice. it isn't for me to say. it is not for government to say what you should be able to have. all right? many states have the open carry. it's a little difficult to do in some of the states that are anti-gun. wisconsin has always had constitutional carry. it's written in the state constitution but people would not exercise it because the local police would arrest if you walk down the street brandishing a firearm. wisconsin in three, four years ago in an active conceal carry, but that's an individual choice. the states like you said that a concealed carry that stuff you have to push there with your legislator but there's opportunity now. there's a real opportunity to get back to the founding document, and to implore the ballot box if you have to, your legislators to realize these are individual rights. you don't grant them to me. i was born with them, but this isn't how the question is framed. we can't give conceal -- you've -- it is not for government to give it to you anyway. you have to be smart about it. i never advise anybody go out and do something that might be legal but might be a little crazy. here's what you have to do. you have to build a critical mass. you have to build a critical mass of people in support, and then you do it collectively. i'll tell you right now if if you 500 people that show up at some public space brandishing a firearm, the cops ain't going to arrest 500 people. that's how the left does it. right? 1000 people, who are the cops going to arrest anyone? you can't. so that's why i say don't do it by yourself. you will get arrested. but build the critical mass and then what will happen over time is a watershed moment will be there, and then you crash to the door and they can't stop you. but it takes time. you have to ask yourself how am i going to build this critical mass within the state of ohio. you don't have to do it statewide. do it in your community. that's how you got to get this done. critical mass, that's how the left does it. i am telling you. i know how they work. reed solomon skis book for alinsky's-- read saul book for radicals. we laugh about community organizing with obama, but they execute that perfectly. they organize. they built a critical mass. that's how we got to gay marriage. we did not get to gay marriage overnight. i'm not here to the aspects, the pros and cons of gay marriage. that didn't happen overnight. but in the culture war that's going on in the last 25, 30 years in this country on some of these issues, we didn't push back. we kept stepping back as they -- they are pushing this crab on us. we kept, what's it to hurt? well, you know, fine. that's fine. well now we're at that point where they have shoved it down our throats. they waited for that watershed moment, it became in the united state supreme court. it never should've been in the united states supreme court. [applause] but you see how they do. they are very good. their operational plan is to be envied. we have to become more organized like that. so build a critical mass for all the stuff that you want to do, like this organization here. i believe i would bet when you started it didn't start with this many people. all right. you've got to build, build, nor -- grow the nest get more people , involved. that's how you get this stuff done. >> last question. >> i suspect as little boy he wanted to be a policeman? >> no, ma'am. >> so what was the defining moment? >> when i was a little what i wanted to be a football player like my uncle. and uncle played for the dallas cowboys. [applause] and my dad's brother and, obviously, he is my favorite uncle and that's what it wanted to be. anyway, i came about this in a strange way. growing up as an adolescent kid, black kid in milwaukee, urban center, that which was talked about by peggy how the rhetoric, some the language we used, the narratives we create will have an impact on people. so i was an adolescent at the time of the black panther movement. bobby seal, huey newton, and others. and you see this was during the turbulent 60's by the way. 12, 13 years old. all that stuff that was played , then the tv, the riots civil rights marches. it had an impact on people. the impact the picture that was , painted for me in black america was that the cops were bad. so i grew up as a kid not liking the police. but i didn't have to worry too much about that, because i had an engaged dad on a two parent family. my dad was real big on discipline. and when you get my book, i relate a story in there about my first exposure to the police. i was with a couple of buddies and mine hanging outside my house. my dad didn't let hang out on the street corners are down the street. he wanted my rear end at home. he said you can invite your friends over to hang out here. he wanted to keep an eye on me. i had an engaged dad. and squad car drives by. stick up the black power symbol, right? i was about 12, 13 years old, a punk kid, right? the car stops. i didn't expect that. [laughter] and backs up and the cop says can i help you? my dad was at home at the time, summer day when the doors are open. he comes outside, he walks up to the squad car and says officer, that's my son. and he said i thought he was flagging us down, he had his hand up. my dad said to the cop, i'll take care of it. [laughter] squad took off because he knew. the police knew, he will handle this, we don't have to do anything. i was hoping that squad would come back. [laughter] i'm waving you back. my dad strict disciplinarian, comes back and says get in the house. my friends ran off. [laughter] and he asked me what happened and i said -- i told him what happened. he looked at me and he said, why are you screwing with the police? he said leave the police alone. that was the end of it. i thought it was done. all right, my dad handled it in the right way. he had the fear of god in me anyway, but basically what he was saying, respect the police , leave them alone, don't screw with them. so anyway, i grew up not really liking the police. but my dad, as i get into 18, 19 years old, you have to be 21 to be a cop. my that kind of threw it out there, did you ever think of being a police officer? i'm thinking no, i didn't like the police. i didn't say that but that's kind of how i felt. as i'm going to school and had a couple of summer jobs, and the one job i think that convince me i was driving a beer truck. now that's fun for 18, 19-year-old kid. it is. but i'll tell you what, a couple of summers of that and then a full year of that before i became 21 of hauling beer kegs and cases up and down rickety stairs to taverns and restaurants, i just realized, this ain't for me. i did not know what to do. didn't i didn't have any, 20, 21 years old. so i thought, i remember what my dad had said. why don't i tried to go take the police exam? here i am. [applause] david clarke: so anyway, i can relate to young adolescent and blackmails that have this -- black males that have this chip on the shoulder about the police do you know what, they weren't born with that. that's a learned behavior. like peggy said, somebody taught them that. that's the stuff they see on tv. the constant, the anti-cop rhetoric. that's why the stuff is a -- is so dangerous. i talked about it. that is why powerful people like eric holder, president obama had an opportunity they had an opportunity to mentor a population of kids. that come from a dysfunctional environment. they don't have any male mentoring. their image of the police is negative. there was a chance there. there was one of what he called a learning moment. that he could have reminded young people, you may hate this guy in this uniform over here, but he is an authority figure. whatever he says, you have to do. like it or not. he had an opportunity do that. he went the other way. upset about that. but i say that because i know, thesehis, you young black males and their anger, and i get all that. but we have opportunities. i go to a lot of schools in milwaukee. i see a lot of young black people on the street. you know they admire me. , i'm not saying they are like me. the young people, the kids, so there's an opportunity there for me in these situations to make a difference. like what can we do, what can i , do? there was an opportunity, the president of united states, who was looked up to in the black community, to do the right thing, put the politics aside, the politics was too tempting for him. he exploited that opportunity for political purposes. did great damage to the black community. he did great damage to this profession. he did great damage to this country. it bothers me. >> thank you so much, sheriff clarke. [applause] >> are you going to run for the senate? 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