read newspaper. they communicate through each other electronically. i'm trying to make sure we get our message to them because they are the future. my granddaughter out there, she can do things i can't do on my television. they are born with better intellect and ability to do those types of things they're , about the future. i want to make sure their future is rich and prosperous as the one i got from my parents when they left. mr. hullinger: all right that, is all the time that we have for questions. each candidate will now have 60 seconds for a closing statement. senator isakson, you get the first closing statement. had asakson: you have chance to hear from your three candidates you know their issue , and temperament. you know what they will say about each other it's up to you , on november 8th. we've done our job to run. it's your job to make the choice. i'll end with a story in the last debate i had in 1990. we looked at an audience and he said if you ever walked down a country road, you come to a fence post and there is a turtle on top of the fence post, you know one thing for certain. it did not get there by itself. i didn't get where i am by myself today, because a lot of people including my wonderful wife, the georgia republican party and citizens of this state. i treasure the opportunities i have had. i thank you for your vote in the past. i will respect your vote in the future if you see fit. god bless the united states of america. mr. hullinger: mr. buckley. mr. buckley: georgia voters our , country has financial cancer. let's talk wasted vote. a vote for senator isakson who is now in his 70's, shown no interest in solving the nation's financial problems, but in fact has been a large part of grading the problems, would be a wasted vote. he's not going to turn a new leaf and come up with fight and vigor and ideas. or bill to solve problems. a vote for mr. barksdale who will be a freshman democrat senator in his 60's, who has no unique ideas different from the general establishment of the democratic party, would be a wasted vote. in contrast if i win this , election, georgia, our state takes the country in a new direction. one that works and last indefinitely. i got the vigor, the fight and ideas and what we need. after this election i asked the libertarians and the tea partiers and financially responsible republicans to come here and stuffy republicans from destroying our country. >> you get the final closing statement. i am fortunate and proud to be a sixth generation georgian. that is why when i started my business over 30 years ago i moved my family back to georgia. i am proud of those values and i learned them for my grandfather. at age 18, he had to take over raising a family of six siblings when his father passed away unexpectedly. from that, my family learned that you always step up for your responsibilities. that is why i was out cutting grass when i was age eight. delivering newspapers and 11, working at the gas station at age 15, and i worked all through high school. i had a sense of responsibility to my family. i have never inherited a dime. that is why in 2008 when the financial crisis hit, i knew how bad it would be and i went to the bank and borrowed every penny i could to make sure i did not have to lay off any employees. i believe that senator isakson has lost that responsibility to you, the people. if you stand with me on november 8, i will stand with you and together, we can accomplish some great things. that concludes our debate. we would like to remind voters that the general elections will be held on tuesday, november 8 and early voting already underway throughout our state. our thanks to the candidates and to our panel of journalists. we would like to thank the atlantic press club for arranging tonight's debate. for more information about the atlantic press club and all of the debate scheduled -- debates scheduled, you can visit the atlantapressclub.com. thanks for joining us, we appreciate it and thanks for -- from the atlantic press club. have a great evening, everyone. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> c-span brings you more debates from key u.s. house, senate, and governors races. on saturday night, the pennsylvania debate between republican senator pat toomey and came again to. at 11, trey gowdy and chris for daily debate in the south carolina and fourth district race and it at night, the north carolina governors debate between republican pat mccurry, democrat or cooper, and cecil.rian lon and rand paul and jim gray debate for the kentucky senate seat. watch key debates from house, senate, and governors races on the c-span networks. c-span.org and listen on the c-span radio app. c-span, where history unfolds daily. >> the candidates in minnesota's eighth u.s. house district are incumbent democrat rick nolan and republican challengers do it males. they met for a debate hosted by -- in hate -- in st. paul. this is over 30 minutes. >> good evening and thank you for joining us for this special. we will this program take an in-depth look at minnesota's legislative races. we will discuss what is at stake for the candidates who are running for state house and senate seats and issues that are at the heart of many of these races. first tonight, the candidates running for congress in minnesota's eighth district will take part in a live discussion of the issues. you will hear from the incumbent rick nolan and republican challenger stuart mills. minnesota's eighth congressional district covers the northeastern part of the state and include still is, brainerd, image data and the iron range. industriesone of the along with agriculture, tourism, and shipping. rick nolan first one the eighth district seat in 2012. this year's race is a rematch of my 14 when nolan be republican stuart mills by less than 3800 votes. the mostso one of expensive congressional races in the country two years ago with outside groups spending nearly $13 million on the candidates. this race is on track to match, even beat that total this year. and now joining us tonight, we have eighth congressional district candidates rick nolan and stuart mills. you for being here. when i first went into public life, my father said if you just do a few things i will always be proud of you. be honest, number two, work for the common good. the men and women, the working men and women in this country. then he said nothing against the rich and the powerful, but don't worry too much about them, they have a pretty good way of taking care of themselves. i try to honor my father's words and i get up every morning and saying what can my staff and i witho create more jobs living wages and benefits for the working men and women in this country, to protect social security, medicare, stop these bad trade deals, to provide better benefits for our veterans and protect the american public. i am glad to say that the university -- universities have studied and found me to be among the most effective members of congress and others i meet the most respected. i want to continue to serve to protect and work for the things that are important for the eighth congressional district and the rest our nation. aboutlan: elections are values and priorities and specifically, who is the best fit to represent those values and priorities area congressman nolan is a very nice guy. has represented the values and priorities of the washington d.c. elite specifically hillary clinton. and proof of that is congressman nolan and hillary clinton are f rated by the nra, both think obamacare is a both think obamacare is a great first step. both hillary clinton and congressman nolan have engaged in a war on coal. the cumbersome and has voted for a carbon tax, hillary clinton said she wants to do a lot of coal miners out of business. they think the iranian nuclear deal is a victory for the lessee. it is a defeat for america. hillary clinton wants to bring refugees.syrian congress when nolan wants to bring in 100,000 before the end of this year. we have to take a look at whose value systems matchup with our part in minnesota. systemsman nolan's value match up with hillary clinton and the washington, d.c. elite. >> we will dig into a lot of these now. we want to start with the economy. we have a lot of minnesotans i can -- are concerned about the economy. minnesota is one of the top states when it comes to having low unemployment. areall industries specifically in the eighth district are created equal. what needs to be done to make sure the eighth is economically viable when it comes to creating and sustaining jobs and job growth? the eighth congressional district is energy reliant. the number one cost of doing business is power, it is energy. when you have the obama administration that is engaged in a war on coal, that has it mayor expensive ford us to be competitive. this would have reigned in the epa and the obama administration's war on coal. we have seen that how our energy policies have put us at a competitive disadvantage. rather than going and perfecting clean coal technologies, which we have. we have taken away a vital power source that would have allowed us to be much more competitive on the world stage. tax and regulatory reform. congressman nolan voted for one regulatoryest themes foisted upon american people. we have seen time and time again how washington, d.c. has gotten the tax and regulatory policy wrong and that energy policy. a need to make sure that in main street oriented economy, and a economy that is so energy dependent that we get the priorities of greater minnesota straight. mr. nolan: when it comes to the wen range mining, it is what are all about. everyone in my neighborhood worked in the minds, i have tried to remind people that mining is not just important for the iron range, it is important for our national economy and our national security. it is vital to this nation's success. i am proud to say that as a result of the work i have done in a dating commerce claims against illegal steel dumping, getting more personnel at customs to catch the cheaters, more importantly, getting tariffs as high as 500% on cold rolled and hot rolled and corrosive resistant steel, we have seen a decline in illegal steel dumping into this country which is good for our national economy and also good for the iron range creek we have seen 1000 myers go back to work on the iron range at forbes and silver bay. , no one hasurces done more. it is the work that i have done that inspired them to put 1000 workers back to work and inspired them to invest $65 million more in new technologies for development. i am proud to say that i enjoy the support of mining executives , of steelworkers, the support of industries and have been steelthe iron and institute as the national steel champion of the year. mining is who we are and what we do. in addition, paper and for street and tourism are vital parts of our economy in the north country. >> let's talk about some of the trade deals that have been discussed lately. the tpp, nafta, those have been discussed a lot especially in this lyrical season. i want to ask what is your stance on these trade deals and if elected, would you try to keep them the same or make any changes? with nafta,tarting we saw tens of thousands of american manufacturing operations move overseas along with millions of good american jobs. i'm built my own sport trading company so i have seen how the rest of the world works. and no little bit about these trade issues. i am opposed to the transpacific partnership agreement and i think all these deals that we did in the past have to be every -- renegotiated. we built the strongest middle-class economy anywhere in the world in the last century. social security and medicare and rules to protect our air and water and environment. and then to come along with the model for the world and we have area can breathe and -- here you can breathe and what you can drink they are paying $.65 an hour. we can begin to compete with that nor should we be expected to compete with that. we have to have trade guilds that require them to rise to our level of affluence and prosperity, not drag us down to their level of poverty and deprivation. mills: i agree. nafta was something that should have had a sunset or a view period, it has not worked out. bill clinton signed that into law, it should never have become law. i am opposed but we cannot hermetically seal our economy inside our borders. potential of our customers are outside the united states. what we need to do is get somessive and negotiate really tough trade deals to make sure that our trading partners cannot cheat. they cannot dump products onto the market and manipulate their. they have to respect our intellectual property. and furthermore we have to stop farming our national sovereignty out to the world trade organization or to an appendage of the u.n.. we need a u.s. based trade remedy authority that is staffed by united states citizens to make sure that if there is cheating or dumping, that we are able to snap countervailing terrorists in place a must meet lee. we do not have to have an endless series of hearings. we need to take control of our national sovereignty but negotiate extremely tough trade deals. >> we have seen something that is computed. we need to make sure that folks beyond -- behind the poverty rate do not pay more income tax. we need to have a limited number of deductions. it does not have to be one or two but small enough where we can fill it out. the internal revenue service has gotten too big. it has gotten unwieldy. they are administrating parts for health care, we have the likes of lois lerner that are making some horrible decisions that have been punitive against pro-american groups. time and time again, we have seen what our tax policy has done to our economy. 1% economic growth is not a good result. we need tax and regulatory reform and we have to get back to our last best place of success when we had to o'neill and ronald reagan, two great bipartisan's work together for -- true bipartisan tax reform that ushered in the largest and the longest economic boom in u.s. history. mr. nolan: this is probably one of the issues where we could not disagree more strongly. my opponent favors more tax breaks for the superrich and wall street billionaires. i oppose them. i think their taxes should be increased. they have benefited enormously from the readiness of our nation and they should be willing to step up and pay their fair share. which many of us would argue they are not. in minnesota we found, for example, people making 20,000 dollars to $50,000 a year are paying up to 33% on average in a combination of real estate sales and income and other taxes. someone making a million dollars or more is paying 13%. if you made 30 and only got 22 live on but if you made a million you still have a hundred 70,002 live on. who is benefiting the most? is thery of economics percolate up theory. to build from the middle out, not the trickle-down theory. which has proved to be so disastrous and the imbalance between the rich and the poor right now in this country is perilously close to exactly what it was before the great depression that occurred in this country sometime ago. we have got to support a minimum you oppose. believe if someone goes to work every day, they are entitled to an income from that. to allow them to live with some modest degree of comfort. what this country does not need is more tax breaks for the rich. what we need is more income for the working men and women in this country. that is a mischaracterization. i am not going to congress to serve wall street. i am not for making sure that wall street is more successful. >> why do want tax breaks for wall street? >> i certainly do not. i am focused on the individuals, i am focused on [indiscernible] those businesses that -- >> are you say -- are you saying you have not advocated for tax millionaires and billionaires? >> just being against the cap -- thesh for clunkers cash for clunkers program does not mean i am against those programs. >>. you sell a lot? a member of my family. i am not involved in that is this and i had a front room seat. that was a double. the federal government screwed it up and it was not a net benefit. not to the automotive retailers. that is untrue. just one other thing. as far as the minimum wage is concerned, i am against the federal debt among wage. it should be the states that are deciding what the correct minimum wage is for their state. we should not have washington, d.c. bureaucrats decide for all 50 states what should go on inside their borders when it comes to minimum wage. thinkare one nation and i everybody in this country who is willing to go to work and put in eight hours, 40 hours a week, they are entitled to an income that would allow them to live with -- some modest degree of comfort. us you- you are telling do not support tax breaks and i am confused on what your position is on trade. i see an ad running on television by some group, it sounds like you saying you support free trade and you support these trade agreements, and you support these -- this asia-pacific alliance. >> that is a lie. >> was that not you? to get out there and negotiate much tougher trade deals. you have not released the entire audio recording. do me a favor, you call on whatever committee put that out that is supporting you and have them released the entire audio recording. have them released the entire -- have them release the entire recording. >> what you're suggesting is illegal. you can make the call right now. you can turn and face the camera and asked them to release the entire audio recording right now. >> i would be more than happy. you know for fact we cannot coordinate and collaborate with these independent agencies. turn to the camera and demand that. >> every do say you support free trade. -- i heard you say that you support free trade. we're making sure we can -- take control of our national sovereignty. we cannot seal ourselves out from the rest of the economy. 95% of our customers outside of orders, we need much tougher trade zones. >> here's the point. i don't know what you said before or after, all i saw was a tv ad saying use of the free trade in these trade agreements. >> let's talk about more of these issues. our viewers have seen a lot of these ads and they want to hear more about some of these other topics we have. national security and terrorism, that is an important topic. let's move on to this. we have seen isis inspired attacks happen in the u.s., attack of the st. cloud mall, 10 people were hurt. minute -- minnesotans have been leading to syria trying to join isis. what needs to be done at the federal level to stop attacks and efforts that are happening here at home and things that are happening abroad, what efforts need to happen on the federal level to stop terrorism? ande have to defeat isis that involves taking away their territory and taking away their money. mediaupting their social and propaganda programs, making sure that any of them attempting to come into the u.s. are carefully vetted and do not get into this country under any conditions and circumstances. at home, we have the homebred terrorists. we have to strengthen the resources that are -- our police and officers are able to utilize and -- in stopping these attacks. the police and peace officers association has endorsed my campaign. we just have to do a better job of interrupting all of their propaganda and their access to guns and weapons which is another issue between the two of us here. why on earth you would want to be able to sell guns to someone who has pledged allegiance to killing us and are not even allowed to get on airplanes, why you would allow them to walk into your store or anybody else's store and buy guns is beyond me. perhaps you can explain that. these are some of the things we need to do to fight terrorism here and abroad. the am endorsed by fraternal order of police. he is talking about endorsements. congress when nolan has a record on this subject. line inbama drew a red syria and we did not follow up on that red line. i believe that congressman nolan got in a shouting match on a phone call with secretary kerry over enforcing that red line in syria. into it created a vacuum. the russians are leading in syria. they are leading in favor of the assad regime. part of conversational instructor is that he wrote a letter on september 11, 2015 to the obama administration. demanding that we bring in 200,000 refugees, 100,000 from .yria on the 18th of november of that same year, the homeland security committee concludes that we cannot bring in the refugees, 100,000 syrian refugees that conversation nolan why to bring in safely into this country. director call me said there is no way we can get these people, we do not know who they are. on the 19th he politically conveniently voted for the safe act but on the 24th, covers when nolan told the brainerd daily dispatch that even that he voted in favor of the safe act it does not change his original position of wine to bring in 100,000 syrian refugees for desperate for the end of this year and there no way to vet them. >> let's talk about the issue of syrian refugees. you have said you want to bring in 100,000 refugees from syria. is that the right course of action to take in this situation? althoug -- these were found to be false and misleading. mr. bell: you wanted to bring in 100,000 syrian refugees. there is no way to vet them. mr. nolan: it takes two and a half years to go through that process which is why i voted for the safe act, requires the defense department, the cia, the and nationalion, -- mr. mill: in your letter you gave them eight months, not to and-a-half years. mr. nolan: i do not want to let anyone in this country unless they are carefully vetted. that is the keywords and i believe under the vetting process that we have in place 24 syrians into minnesota, about 18 or 20 are women. and children and a couple of them are men. it is important to know -- mills: you are saying it is impossible to bring in 100,000 based on the vetting process. mr. nolan: i will not rely on any specific number until they are properly and thoroughly vetted. you're missing the keyword. mr. mills: i read the letter. then is onion to you the topic of syrian refugees and there is a crisis in syria, what is the solution with a humanitarian crisis? mills: we cannot control what russia and the assad regime is doing. we do not need open warfare. we should be targeting isis but we have a humanitarian crisis and we need to get them in safe orders -- areas and we need partners to help participate and staff those safe areas. helping them there is the right answer for them, it is the right answer for us, bringing in 10,000, 100,000 syrian refugees does not make any sense. we have to put america and americans first. aboutlan: we are talking women and children, some 10 million of them, that the country is a living hell. i know from my experience in the ofdle east, a good measure them are good, strong supporters of the united states of america. they stood by us, they translated for us, they fought alongside of us, they supported us in every which way imaginable. to say we are going to under any conditions or any circumstances that you into our country after they have been thoroughly and carefully vetted and send them home where they will lose their heads, it seems antimilitary and unhumanitarian. there has to be a way for us to these 10fair share of million refugees, provided that they are carefully and thoroughly vetted, >> let's move onto the topic of health care. we have a lot of opinions on this one. affordability is a big issue with health care. 67% for someng up people in the individual market. i think this question is for you. how is your opinion of how the aca is working, would you leave it or repeal it altogether, what is your plan? : i agree with bill clinton, it is the craziest thing and i agree with mark dayton, the affordable care act has become unaffordable. it is collapsing underneath its own weight. the crown jewel of the afford will care act was the co-ops. haveing with 23, we will six or seven by the end of 2017. they will not be anything left. we know what has happened in the state exchanges and it has happened in the federal exchanges. if we start putting people into medicare cost of putting everyone into medicare, we turn it into a high risk full -- pool and we wind up collapsing that system the same way obamacare is collapsing. that system is set up for the benefit of our seniors. not only are we taking $716 billion out of medicare to pay for obamacare, congressman nolan's solution is to put everybody into medicare and collapse that system. nolan: the current system that is run by the insurance companies is spending on average about 30% of all of our health care dollars on administrative costs and the insurance company profits and executive profits. that is why we converted for seniors in this country into medicare which is a single-payer system. it operates court to a repeat -- for two percent to 3% and