Completelyent is inaccurate or ridiculous, it pantsands on fire on fire. Host how do you make sure you are giving campaigns and candidates the right ratings . Guest this is the second this is the Third Campaign we have been Fact Checking. And likeurnalists most, we are listening to the news and seeing what the candidates say. We are listening for things that would make the average person say i wonder if that is true. That is how we pick the facts to check. We dont balance the ratings in any way, because we think the facts need to speak with themselves. The ratings are whatever they are. Do that whenyou the truth is not always clear . Guest we have a method for Fact Checking . Every fact check is little diversity there is a of political discussion we have in the u. S. , the we emphasize a few principles. We emphasize original sources, primary documents, primary evidence, our reports are written in a way that the entire story is, this is what we said, we wanted to know if it was accurate, so we reported and researched and here is all the evidence we found and of the end of the story, we assign a rating because we are online first, we publish all of our sources online. There is a source list with every story. We find people are skeptical and they want to verify our work and see for themselves. Our reports run in newspapers across the country that have our articles, but online, people can see the sources and investigate for themselves and they seem to like that. Host i want to show our viewers Hillary Clinton on fox news, talking about the claim by fbi comey and whether or not she gave honest testimony before congress. After a long investigation, fbi director james comey said in of those things that you told the American Public for true. That is not what i heard irector comey say, and thank you for giving me the opportunity to clarify. He said my answers were truthful and what i said was consistent with what i told the American People, that there were decisions discussed and made to classify retroactively certain emails. I was communicating with over 300 people in my emailing. They certainly did not believe and had no reason to believe that what they were sending was classified. In retrospect, different agencies come in and say it should have been, but that is not what was happening in real time. And a congressional hearing on july 7, director james comey directly contradicted what you had told the public. Secretary clinton said there was nothing more classified on her emails sent or received, was that true . That is not true. Secretary clinton said i do not email any classified material, was that true . There was classified material emailed. He directly contradicted you. Not only directly contradicted, he also said that you were extremely careless and negligent. Looked at the whole transcript of everything that was said, and what i believe is that i made a mistake, not using two different email addresses. I have said that, and i repeat it again, today. It is not anything that i ever would do again. We looked at this exchange very carefully. This is the kind of thing that catches our attention. We found that clinton was wrong. We looked specifically at her statement that said everything she said was true all. We rated that pants on fire. As Chris Wallace said, there was some classified information and in her email. She repeatedly said there was nothing marked classified when she sent or received it. , to get the full context forit was a very small f messages. The classification marks were not in the headers. We really get into the details of this stuff. You can see how she thought she was right. Their fulli did investigation, they did find classified information. Her publicot endorse remarks as being truthful. He did not say she lied either. He said, basically, that is not what the fbi found in their investigation. Host lets get to calls. Florida, independent color. We will talk a little bit more about statements may by both candidates. Caller we need to take a view and hindsight is 2020, looking back in time, comparing things now over the many years gives you the best balanced perspective. Only 10 of the richest americans now have the same good lifestyle that the average american hat in 1965. In 1965, the rich were paying any tax rate of 90 . 1972ad from 1948 to increases in worker productivity directly matching increases in worker ranges. Deficit is trillion because the rich have not paid their fair share of taxes over the last several decades. The low wages for u. S. Citizens now is due to the massive integration immigration that has taken place over several decades. The more people in the country, the lower the wages. It is that simple. We do not create 2 million new good paying jobs every year. We allowed 1. 5 million legal and illegal foreign nationals in the country every year. Since obama has taken office, more of the new jobs have gone to foreign nationals then u. S. Citizens. All this should be very objective and taken into account. Fact check that all quickly . Guest i can put a couple of reporters on that statement for a few days. The wealthy used to pay 90 tax rate. That is true. When we look at historical tax rates many time during the eisenhower years, and the highest tax rate was 90 , 70 . During the reagan years, those tax rates started to come down. They are now much lower. We fact check claims about inequality as well many times. You cane many ways expect that. Sometimes people talk about wealth that usually means homeownership. Sometimes they talk about income. It is all a little bit different. One thing we have noticed is that inequality, he said, was worse when the recession was the worst. That is because so many people lost their home values or lost their jobs. Now the recession seems to be in the rearview mirror, the inequality statistics, there is still a lot of inequality, but it is not as dramatic as it used to be. The last thing i will mention on immigration, he talks about immigration lowering wages. This is one of the hardest things for us to fact check because in the broader economy summary things can affect wages. Is immigration one of those things that affects wages . It is certain one, but it may be outweighed by other trends. Many say immigration is an overall improvement to the economy because more people are being productive. There is also some evidence that they do lower wages for people who are in lowwage jobs. Mixed evidence there on immigration. Lancaster, ohio, republican. Caller i do not like Hillary Clinton. She lies. Nothing is going to happen. She is going to be just as bad as obama if she is elected. I love donald trump. Of things that people wish they could say. Guest host lets take a point about Hillary Clinton lying many times. Do you tally statements of each campaign . Guest we do. We look at tally of every candidate with a scorecard on political act. People can look at Hillary Clinton clinton or donald trump and see how the statement we have selected rate. Number one, we picked statements for their news value. Were not taking a random sample. If someone makes a statement that is likely true that is every day, it will not make it to our site. We like to correct misinformation. We fact check a lot of statements that sound wrong. About Hillary Clintons record, she is we have been Fact Checking her since we started in 2007, and overall the impressions i have of her is she is very careful, she studies Public Policy a great deal. We do not often capture in a misstatement cash her in a misstatement of policy matters. She is pretty accurate. We have found misstatements more in interviews which he is under pressure. In addition to that statement we talked about a few minutes ago, she also spoke in 2008, she tried to defend herself as first lady and her International Relations by saying she landed in bosnia under sniper fire. Ofrequire,ideo children greeting her at the airport. That is the kind of statement we see from Hillary Clinton. Donald trump is a first time ended it. He does not seem to study policy very much. He makes many errors of fact. His record with us is quite poor, about three quarters of his statements have been rated mostly false, false, or caps on fire. For the amount of money Hillary Clinton would like to spend on refugees, we could rebuild every inner city in america. We rated it pants on fire. Well that makes no sense because we spend much less than 100 billion on refugees. And a city like new york that needs a lot of Infrastructure Improvements exceeds that. Thats just one city. So thats an example of where the numbers are completely off. We dont spend that much money on refugees and americas cities have a lot of infrastructure problems that cost a lot more money than that. That seems to be pretty effective and thats an out and out lie. Ok . And theyve been using it and getting away with it for years. Let me digress here. About donald trump and all the democrats want to get in. Only republicans were allowed in. Now we come up with this segment is hillary and her email thing and you let the republicans get in and pound hillary and we couldnt go in and go after trump. I dont think thats fair. All right. Weve been Fact CheckingHillary Clinton on the Second Amendment and it is a republican talk uing point. They have regularly said donald trump and others she wants to abolish the Second Amendment. Clinton has said nothing of the sort. I believe during her Convention Speech she even responded to that. Sometimes we come in, sometimes the candidates themselves speak to it. She said that people do have a right to bear arms but like many rights the government has the responsibility to put reasonable regulations on. Just like you cant shout fire in a crowded theater. So we have fact checked whether she wants to abolish the Second Amendment and we rated that false. Good morning. Good morning. Thank you for taking my call. First of all, its pretty clear that mr. Obama and the democratics want to change the demographics of the country. My question is that did you ever have a chance to fact check what mrs. Clinton said to the lady at the airport . I do believe her name was pat the one who lost her son. Have you had a chance to do that . Ive got another question to ask. Go ahead. Yes. We have looked very deeply at this question. This is about the benghazi terrorism attacks that happened in 2012. The mother of one of the people who died there gave speech at the Republican Convention where she said she blames Hillary Clinton personally and Hillary Linton lied to her and the accusation of lying stems around what did Hillary Clinton say to the victims families . There was a ceremony when the bodies were returned to the United States and Hillary Clinton was there, president obama was there. Hillary clinton spoke with the victims families, all of the families. Now, we dont know what was said. These conversations were not recorded. The mother says that Hillary Clinton blamed a video. And for people who remember this incident there was a video that was offensive to the religion of islam, in the middle east there was some riots around u. S. Embassies in Different Countries about the video. And at the time there was thinking in the government this was related to the attack in benghazi. Later it was shown it was more coordinated it wasnt spontaneous and it wasnt a terrorist act. So the question goes to what did hillary tell the families. Again, we dont have recordings we dont have independent evidence about it. We have spoken to as many members of the families as we could locate and who were willing to talk to us. And some of them said that she didnt mention the video. Very specifically they said she gave us condolences, said this was a terrible act. She didnt blame a video. Patricia at least smits and another Family Member said yes she did mention a video. So we havent given this fact check a rating because it does seem like a kind of a he said she said situation. We cant verify what happened in this conversation. One other thing i would sad is she did say it was a video. Some of the initial intelligence around the incident pointed to the video. People may remember that susan rice went on the talk shows and talked about the video, a big controversy. Theres no evidence that this, the video was like sort of a manufactured excuse. It seems to be what one of the leads that they were genuinely pursuing at the time. So that is a complicated situation. Its a sad situation. And thats what our reporting has found. Next to done don. Good morning. I kind of question some of the objectivity of your guests language here. Because youve already admitted yourself that you go for the more spectacular ratings. To me, you said that hillary speaks in lawyer talk and donald trump just wings it. I mean, i see it as trump getting an f and maybe hillary a bplus. But that wasnt how you started off your program. You came in with the controversy about whats been going on in the newspapers here recently and did you take into account that the f. B. I. Directer had resinneded some of his testimony immediately the day after he gave it in regards to whether hillary lied or not . It seems to me that theres quite a few factors that you guys pick and choose what how you want to present it. Well get a response. Go ahead. I dont recall the f. B. I. Directer rescinding any of his testimony. He might have made additional dements but im not aware of that. I would say we get a lot of reader feedback of people who have strong opinions on politics and tell us they dont like our reports because were biased or they dont like our findings. And what i say to them is that were trying to give you credible accurate information. We give all of our sources, we lay out all of our findings. If we got something wrong, were human beings, we do make mistakes, we try to correct it promptly. But after that, i would say, i would ask people who dont like the findings or think were biased, what is wrong in the report . Because of the sourcing we feel like people can look for themselves and gauge the accuracy well or not. Now, i get it, a lot of readers will disagree with the ratings. They will say all your facts in your story are fine, i just dont like that you rated it mostly false instead of true. I think thats the nature of politics. Especially right before the president ial elections feelings run very high on both sides but we feel our method is a sound method. Independent. Listen, ive got a comment and then i have a question. Umber one, this is my comment. I voted for barack obama twice. I wanted to vote for Hillary Clinton but she got beat. D then everything happened with benghazi and now all these email things going on. t i feel that i just don trust her. But i also feel that if donald trump doesnt get his way and someone says something bad about it him, he will push the button. And i kind of that kind of scares me. So this may be the first time that i may not vote. And thats kind of sad. But now heres my question. Between the two candidates, im on Social Security disability. Im just wondering who is going to keep Social Security isability in place and who wants to get rid of it. And then on top of that, Social Security for like say my parents or my son. Ok. Big question. I cant speak specifically to Social Security disability because we havent studied that. But i can talk about Social Security generally. And in this election both donald trump and Hillary Clinton are very supportive of Social Security. The democrats traditionally have supported the program. Theres been some talk of theres been a lot of different talk within the Democratic Party on Social Security. Some people say they need to reduce the rate of increase that this gets really wonky as a way to reinin government spending. Bernie sanders was opposed to that. Others talk about raising Social Security for the poorest seniors because it is a relatively modest amount if thats someones sole retirement income. Thats the democrat side. Donald trump has been interesting because the republicans talked about privatizing elements of Social Security as a means to save money. And donald trump has said no were not going to do this. This is one of the most popular programs in government. We should not its politically a bad idea for us to touch Social Security. So thats trumps position. Now, his running mate mike pence has favored some of these privatization plans but trump is the candidate. We recently fact checked harry reid when he said donald trump and mike pence want to privatize Social Security and we rated that mostly false because thats not trumps position. Pulling all that up for our viewers, they can see it right there. Robert, in mississippi, republican. Im getting the feeling that most of your callers dont have a clue about whats going on. Clinton has been in the political arena 25 or 30 years, rump has been a businessman. What he did in his business has nothing to do with this election because he was a businessman. Clinton, you have to hold her responsible a little bit a lot, really. Trump right now he is testing for the g. O. P. And the voters. Well leaf it there. Moving on to allen, arizona,