mr. demint: good evening, everyone. they got me with a nice light of stake in my mouth. everyone, please continue to eat. much, matt, you and the board have done a great job. important to so the movement, and i want to thank the american conservative union for what they do, and i think we should all give them a round of applause tonight. [applause] grateful,: i am also all of us feel this way at heritage, to work with so many great conservative groups across the country, all of them display behind us, and proud of all of my heritage colleagues, if you could please wave your hands, i appreciate all of the work you did to be a part of this conference. i thank all of you for being here tonight. i have a great honor to introduce, kind of a new friend of mine, carly fiorina. [applause] mr. demint: carly is here with her husband, frank. carly and i haven't known each other for too long, but we know her because of her business career with at&t and lucent and hewlett-packard, a great success there, but we had earlier tonight and opportunity to share a new perspective that she has gained from really become one of the -- becoming one of the leaders of the conservative movement, first in her race for senate in california and then on the national stage for running for president. on the campaign trail, she proved that she could lock horns with the best of them. [applause] and those other guys who messed with her usually got the worst of it, and actually, i -- thatat in flex netflix is starting a new series on television, "fiorina: warrior princess." [laughter] [applause] mr. demint: but after carly decided to end her race for president, she and i talked on the phone and had a good couple of laughs about the perceptions that we had of each other before this started. i told her that i thought that she was a mushy moderate, part of the establishment, and she said, "that is funny, i heard that you were a radical, --eam-ist, right wing nut radical, extremist, right nut." we had a good laugh. in her campaign, there was principle and substance in everything she did. her campaign brought a message about a strong economy, free enterprise for american businesses, and families alike. she looked at washington with a on herous eye based experience as a successful executive, and she knows exactly what is wrong with the current administration. she also bore a message of life for the most vulnerable members of our society. [applause] mr. demint: and the respect for the women, the mothers that nurture our children and raise the families in this country, and she said this with the perspective not only of a mother, but of a ceo who actually hires a lot of the mothers who are out in the workforce. she understands that at the end of the day, our government must increase in power if americans are going to increase in prosperity. she delivered this message like few others. she wants to continue this fight and be a part of what we are all doing here, and she is here tonight i think to encourage and inspire us and to offer her ideas on how we can all work together to build a stronger america. so please welcome tonight one of the new heroes or one of my new heroes in the conservative movement, carly fiorina. [applause] ♪ ms. fiorina: thank you. thank you so much. it is great be back here at cpac . and thank you, jim, for that wonderful introduction. true, -- jim and i, it's became new friends. and it is great to see old and new friends this evening. i want you to have your minds at ease while you your dinner. i am not here to hurl insults or discuss the finer points of spray tans. [laughter] ms. fiorina: i am not granted discuss excessive perspiration. have very small hands -- [laughter] [applause] -- i have a really big phone. [laughter] ms. fiorina: that is the good news. here tonight not in heated campaign mode but to pause and reflect. purpose really tonight is to help us remember who we are, to remind us of all that binds us together as americans and as conservatives and perhaps to suggest a path forward. but here is the bad news. some of you may know that i studied history and philosophy, and so i need to go back in time and place for this reflection. i actually think that in times of danger and discord, of controversy and consequence, it is important to remember and to think about where we come from so that we can see more clearly where we need to go. so grab your wine. [laughter] ms. fiorina: the study of history is the study of power. the ebbs and flows of military, territorial, economic, and personal power. ofh of our history and much the philosophy that shaped our union is all about the power of the individual in relation to the power of the state and the power of the divine. our founders actually were consumed with concern about power. they had seen firsthand the abuse of power when concentrated in the hands of the few, whether in markets or in politics. our constitution, therefore, in shrines individual liberties and rights, but perhaps even more importantly, if faithfully executed, our constitution protects against the abuse of power, the collection of power, the concentration of power by the few. it is why the powers of the federal government are enumerated and why the ninth and 10th amendments spell out that powers belong to individuals or to the states. [applause] in other words, this nation was built on the principle that power, whether economic or political, power dispersed into the hands of the many is wiser, more ,ompassionate, more competent more just, more effective, then power concentrated in the hands power few -- than concentrated in the hands of the few. the were smart enough along way as they designed a system of government, they were smart enough to realize that we, the people, can sometimes be swayed by fears and passion instead of guided by reason. in short, we, the people, can be wrong. were absolutely convinced that power concentrated in the hands of the few could be abused and a far worseroduce outcome. and amazingly, although they were the ruling elite of the nation, they limited their own power. in george washington's farewell address, he spoke about the dangerous rise of political parties. his point in that speech, among others, was that political parties create a tit-for-tat, a back-and-forth bickering, and have people focusing more on their team than focusing on their republic. united bywe here are conservative principles and not by a single party. years agoords, 220 this september, george washington, our first president, was worried that we would cease to be a citizen government and instead be ruled a political class more concerned about its own power, political influence, and prestige. maybe he was onto something. this selection, like every election, is about power. whohas it, who wants it, keeps it, who loses it. and while the media and the political establishment in both parties think they know best, citizens out there are demanding a restoration of their own power. [applause] ms. fiorina: as iran for the presidency, i had the great privilege to talk to citizens all across our exceptional nation. my message was that we as citizens, we must take our country back from the elite, the establishment, the ruling class of both parties, and what i heard from people of all kinds and all places was a feeling of powerlessness in their own lives. a loss of power over their own destinies. should not beess part of the american dna. and so knowing this, people are angry or fed up or afraid, or worst of all, apathetic. who, with veterans tears in their eyes, tell me about how powerless they feel when they have to fight to receive the care that they have already earned. students who feel powerless to chart their own futures. parents who feel powerless in the ability to teach their own children. people who are just scraping by and wondering when they lost that sense of opportunity and sensibility that has always defined this nation. here is a shocking statistic. , 80%, of americans believe that the government is corrupt and that the media and the political establishment is focused squarely on the preservation of their own power and position. means that democrats, independents, republicans, and i all agree on something. this is not working for us anymore. [applause] ms. fiorina: i say the american people are pretty smart. i have met lots of people who just quit voting. they quit following politics. not because they don't care but because they think they don't count. have come toicans believe that nothing that they do will make any difference at all. backdrop of dismay and discontent which has been going on for some time, the political establishment decided that it knew exactly what to do this time, this political cycle. now it has always funded these gatherings to pile on the democrats, so let us start their. -- there. [laughter] [applause] democratic: the establishment, aided and abetted by the media establishment, have now decided that it is hillary's turn. last year, the media called me said just like i mrs. clinton that i had traveled thousands of miles around the globe but unlike mrs. clinton, i understand that flying is an activity, and not an accomplishment. mrs. clinton named this as an accomplishment. [applause] campaign,a: during my i was taken to task by chris matthews and others that hillary clinton had lied about benghazi, something did everyone now says and knows is true. i wascriticized -- criticized for suggesting that mrs. clinton, far from dean a trailblazing women who has risen to her own career and accomplishments is, in fact, someone who has used her toband's name and charisma sacrifice everything in the power of her ambition. this is the clinton way. [applause] ms. fiorina: i often joked on the campaign trail that while hillary clinton aims for the white house, she is far better suited for the big house. [applause] 2000 of hillary's released e-mails were deemed some level of classified. that is one out of 14. so here is another way to think about this. other friday,very every single e-mail that you send that day in danger to our national security. i have held the highest clearance is available to a civilian. i have worked closely with the , and ie nsa, the dod cannot imagine sending classified material over a private server. most of us cannot. [applause] ms. fiorina: now we all know why hillary clinton did this. she has waited her entire life to be president. even saturday night live gets the joke. remember "citizens, you will elect me?" you enjoy way, i hope the little howl of that all of us left at your little table. , mrs. clinton, you cannot owel.a server with a t despite the misgivings, she will be the party's standardbearer. knows thatshment despite the discomfort of other voters, the establishment knows that hillary will never loosen their grip on power. the democratic party establishment is, however, a little worried about this lack of enthusiasm, particularly among women. so now, they are reminding people of the historic nature of her candid see, that she is a woman, after all, and therefore women must a vote fo her. news for you, mrs. clinton. i am a woman and i am not voting for you. [laughter] [applause] ms. fiorina: to all of the women and girls across this country, regardless of your ideology or your party, let me say this. do not let others define you. [applause] anyonerina: do not let tell you who you have to vote to believe.you have that is not feminism. feminism does not shut down conversations. it does not threaten women. it is not about ideology. a feminist is a woman who lives the life she chooses and who uses all of her god-given gifts. [applause] woman anda: and as a , let me promise you that i will spend the next six months making sure that hillary clinton is not our next president. [applause] ms. fiorina: ok, now that we have gotten that fun part out of the way because it is easy and thesfying to criticize democratic party establishment because we have to do it, we also have to be honest tonight and look ourselves in the mirror. according to all of the exit polls in several states now, over half of the republican electorate feel betrayed by their party. that is a big number and that is a strong word. the truth is, the republican establishment thought it also knew just what to do after the 2012 election. first, they decided that we needed comprehensive immigration reform, then, we needed to talk less about the social issues. manyhere were so candidates in the primaries and too many debates, so let's limit the number of debates, and in fact, let's just condense the primary calendar so our presumptive nominee can roll up the delegates faster. and let's make sure that the voters know who the establishment thinks should be the nominee. let's have all of the pundits and all of the money make the case right from the start about who we think is next up to bat. "no, wean voters said, need to secure the border. no, citizenship in this country has to mean something. no, our religious liberty is at stake. no, we don't want who you want. we want to choose for ourselves. and the more choices we have, the better we like it." [applause] but now many plug-ins and not as few current and former politicians are decrying the wisdom of these same voters. they don't like how people are voting right now. these voters look at the republican party and look at what they have produced an think that they can do better deciding for themselves. who can blame them? the border is not secure. 22 veterans commit suicide every single day. spending increases year after year after year and has 44 years. despite promises, republicans have not stopped the march of government overreach, government regulation, and entitlements have not been reformed. the government is incompetent and corrupt. and while the establishment now professes its horror at the choice of millions of voters at the ballot box, these same voters are asking, "what have you done for me?" [applause] now don'ta: misunderstand me. i am no donald trump fan. i did not vote for him in the virginia primary. understandeless, i and respect the people who did vote for him. i know many of them. they are not racists or crazies or stupid. call donald aple fraud or a con man, the truth is, the hard truth is, there are a lot of other voters out there who think that they have been conned election after election. [applause] ms. fiorina: they know what it is to be promised something and delivered nothing. famouslyll once remarked that all politics is local. actually, i think politics is personal. people vote based on their own lives, their own experiences, their own beliefs, their hopes, their dreams. donaldant to defeat trump, we cannot turn to the establishment was again and ask them to guide the citizenry to the right answer. [applause] if we want to defeat donald trump, we must feed him at the ballot walks by offering citizens conservative solutions to problems in their own lives. [applause] ms. fiorina: we must remember who we are. pivotal and perilous times in our nation's history and it is precisely at these kinds of times that we must put our faith in a system that our founders created. ours was intended to be a citizen government. it is technology, actually, that deliver the tools to government. there are no more excuses. allow citizens to see every regulation before it actually passes and we can control and gain control over how money is expend -- is spent. individuals can be empowered like never before to push back against the power of the state and the establishment. things that you learn when you study history and philosophy is that the fundamentals of human nature never change. people always and for all time yearn for dignity, for purpose in their lives. power struggles are a part of human existence and so the , astitution is as vital vibrant, as relevant a document today as it was the day it was written. [applause] ms. fiorina: and that is why i am a constitutional conservative. [applause] ms. fiorina: i have traveled and lived and worked all over the world and i know with absolute certainty that it is only in this country that a young woman can start out as a secretary in the middle of a deep recession, go on one day to become the chief executive of what was turned into the largest technology company in the world, and run for the presidency of the united states. that is only possible in this great nation. [applause] and anyone who doubts for a moment the exceptional nature of this nation should travel the world and study its history. between now and election day to ensure that we have conservative representatives up and down the ballot and i will also dedicate my voice, my time, my energy to restoring a citizen government to this great nation. [applause] ms. fiorina: my fellow citizens. my fellow conservatives. it is time. let us remember who we are. us isieve that no one of better than any one of us. that each of us is gifted by god. canelieve that everyone live a life of dignity and purpose and meaning. that our principles, our values, our policies work better to lift people up, regardless of their circumstance. [applause] ms. fiorina: it is progressives, actually, it is progressives that believe that some are better than others, some are -- smarter than others, and that some should decide for others. that is not who we are. we are an exceptional nation because we were founded on the everyk principle that individual has inalienable must neverthe power be concentrated but always constrained. let us not forget these principles in the heat of an election battle. let us instead rely upon them. let us stand. let us stand with the american people. and speake our case to people partial lives and deliver for them. my fellow citizens, my fellow conservatives, it is time for us to go together and take our government back. fellow citizens, it is time. it is time that we take our country back. thank you very much, everyone. god bless you. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] mr. demint: all right, we have come to her final chapter in the dinner -- our final chapter in this dinner. i am going to warn you, after this, we have a band. we will see if you know how to dance. we will have an open bar and dessert after dinner. announcer: we will have more of a conservative political action conference tomorrow with marco rubio. watch our road to the white house coverage of cpac at 11:30 eastern time here on c-span. former books my were horizontal studies. many countries across the whole region. the ends of the earth, balkan coast. , covering a minimum of six countries here i look at one country in-depth. i use it to explore great themes. i think him a great themes. themes.nk, great the cold war. speaking moldova have a longer border the big ukraine and poland -- then:. the study of romania is the study of empires. announcer: robert kaplan, author of "in europe's shower -- shadow." he talks about the history of the balkan states, and romania structs -- struggle to gain democracy. corrupt --ntimately intimately corrupt. they had weak industry shouldn't -- they had weak institutions. what this shows is this is nothing new. what is happening is the romanian population has grown up and become far more sophisticated. it is demanding clean government. it is its number one demand. announcer: sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q&a. ♪ >> i am a teacher. the most and port in thing to me right now is education. i am looking at candidates very closely for their programs in education. i have not been happy in the last 15 years with the poor standards and common core. i would like to see that change. i am going to vote for either bernie sanders or hillary clinton. i am happy with both. i am interested to see whether education plans would turn out to be. decided that i am voting for ted cruz for the candidacy. he is a constitutional scholar, he is eloquent, and he is principled consistently out of all of the candidate so far. -- candidates so far. announcer: today, president obama discussed the u.s. economy and his administration's record on job creation. official to statistics, the economy added to water 42,000 jobs last month. the president's remarks from the white house are five minutes. president obama: i thought it would be useful to focus on something that matters to the american people, that is, how is the -- economy doing, and how is it affecting the lives? this morning we learned that the u.s. economy created 242,000 jobs last month. that is two months in a row at the unemployment rate of below 5%. our the past three months, work force has grown by 1.5 billion people. that is progress. overall, american business has created new jobs for 72 straight months. six straight years of job creation. 14.3 million new jobs. in fact businesses have created jobs every single month since i have signed that job killing obamacare bill. think about this. if someone had told the seven years ago that we would get to the point, at a time when we were losing 800,000 jobs a month , and the unemployment rate hit 10%, we would not have believed it. today american businesses are creating jobs of the fastest paces since the 1990's. america's workforce is growing at the fastest pace since the year 2000. it is showing the kind of strength and durability that makes america's economy right now the envy of the world, --pite illness headwinds despite enormous headwinds it is receiving because of weaknesses in other parts of the world. in other words, the numbers, the facts, do not lie. i think it is useful, given that there seems to be an alternative reality out there. from some of the political folks that america is down in the dumps. it is not. america is pretty darn great right now. making strides right now. small and large businesses are hiring right now. they are investing right now. they are building this country, brick by brick, blocked by what -- block, neighborhood by neighborhood, all across the country. factst expect that these and this evidence will convince some of the politicians out there to change their doomsday rhetoric, talking about how terrible america is, but the american people should be proud of what they have achieved. resilience,to their innovation, creativity, risk-taking, and grit. the fact of the matter is the plans we have put in place to grow the economy have worked. they would work even faster if we did not have the kind of obstruction that we have seen in this town to prevent additional policies that would make a difference. there is going to be a debate going on around the budget in the coming months. areblicans in congress sadly trying to cut some of the investment that could spur additional growth. things likecking increasing the minimum wage, or more robust investment in jobs, training, infrastructure, education that can continue to lift wages and incomes. an area by the way where we are not seeing the same kinds of case that we want to see -- pace that we want to see, and if we were working together we could see a different. that is what we should be debating. that is the debate that is worthy of the american people. not fantasy. name-calling. not trying to talk down to the american economy, but looking at the facts, understanding that we made extraordinary progress in job growth. how can we advance that? how can we make sure that people are successful and climbing the ladder of wage and income growth over the coming years. how do we make sure that we make this economy grow faster? the kinds of proposals that we , in put forward repeatedly terms of rebuilding infrastructure, improving job training, lifting the minimum wage, dealing with things like family leave and paid leave. making sure that retirement accounts are more helpful to middle-class families and working families. making college more affordable. those are all of the things that will really make an enormous difference. we have to continue to push that agenda. that is what we should be talking about. that is what i will be talking about with my economic team here in the coming months. the notion that we would reverse the very policies that helped -- us out of a recession reinstitute those that got us plans whole -- hole, currently proposed by those in congress and some running for president, that is not become a station we should be having. that is not the direction america's take -- america should take. i am looking forward to -- very forcefully making clear that what we have done has made a difference. there is a huge gap between the rhetoric that is going on out there and the reality of success that we are seeing in america's economy. even as we acknowledge that there is more work that could be done to make sure everyone is in a setting from that success -- is benefiting from that success. thank you. have a good weekend. announcer: at a campaign event in detroit, hillary clinton discuss her plans for creating jobs and growing the economy. she also criticized for public and candidates for their economic proposals. this is 40 minutes. hillary clinton: thank you, wow. i am so excited to be here. i appreciate a short tour i just had and the information that i was given. detroito thank manufacturing services for welcoming us here today. especiallyhank them for giving so many hard-working people the chance to get -- make a good living with a good job with benefits, and union representation. it all as a -- adds up. [applause] i want to thank the ceo of dms. i want to acknowledge this is the largest woman owned business in michigan. [applause] and one of the largest native american owned businesses in america. [applause] it is also great to be here with so many of my friends, my former colleagues. i am thrilled to be in detroit. i want to thank the mayor. where is the mayor? duggan, forayor everything you're doing. i want to thank senator debbie stevan now, my friend and colleague. congressman john conyers, he has that red jacket on. you can see him. congresswoman brenda lawrence, thank you. my longtime friend, congresswoman eddie dingle. -- debbie dingell. and of course i want to legend, you may think i am talking about his storied career in the congress, of course i am. i want you to know that former congressman, john dingell is a social media sensation. [applause] twitter. king of and i am so pleased he is here today. i want to thank former governor, jim blanchard and plan -- janet blanchard. [applause] we have some great union leaders here. the former president of the uaw, blocking. thank you for being here. -- bob king. thank you for being here. we have march robinson. -- marge robinson. and al garrett, thank you all for being with me. i deliberately chose to come to detroit, and to come to this company to talk about jobs. because i want more people to see what is happening in southwest detroit and midtown, and eastern market. new businesses are opening. families are moving in. the streetlights are on again. the buses are running. there is a palpable feeling of pride and community. we have to spread the economic revitalization to all of detroit's neighborhoods. you can do it, because look how far you have come. , thes to your hard work auto industry just had its best year ever. [applause] innovation is on the rise between the carmakers and suppliers, the clean energy sector, the defense court order, high-tech firms in ann arbor, cutting edge design happening in grand rapids, the next generation of engineers getting trained up and so much else, your hard work, doing what you have always done -- making and designing things that america needs and the world once is once again going strong. i am so grateful to everybody who played a part in that. last night detroit played a different role, didn't? hosting the republican presidential -- i don't know what to call it -- i guess, debate. there were so many insults, back-and-forth, it was hard to keep track. was togest insult of all the american people. the economy -- [applause] economy which should be at the top of any list that anybody running for president has was basically an afterthought. maybe that is because all of the republican candidates support the same failed policies. cut taxes for the rich. get out of the way of corporations. don't raise the minimum wage, in fact the front runner says he thinks wages are too high in the country. and flash government to the bone -- slash government to the bone. note price, they all criticized or opposed the other risk. -- the auto rescue. what was missing last night was an honest reckoning with the most important economic challenge. how do we raise incomes and create good jobs of the future? on the democratic side, we agree on a number of things. i don't think we can answer that refighting rina -- ballot -- battles from 20 years ago. anyone running for president owes it to you to come up with real ideas. ideology, not an old set of talking points, but a credible strategy designed for the world we live in now. that is exactly what i am here today to do. [applause] you know in america if you work hard and you do your part, you are supposed to be about to get ahead and stay ahead. no matter who you are, or where you started out. that is the basic bargain that made this country great. but for many americans, that no longer holds true. too many barriers hold back our families. our economy, and because of that, our country. instead of good paying jobs, millions of americans are stuck in low-wage work. corporate profits and ceo pay keeps rising. paychecks for working families have barely bunched. -- budged. instead of affordable college we have skyrocketing tuition and millions weighed down by student debt. more women than ever are the main breadwinners, or co-breadwinners, but they still do not get equal pay. and -- [applause] and the unions that help build our country, and the middle class are under concerted attack. it is no surprise that americans are angry, is it? folks work hard all day, and then lie awake all night trying to figure out how in the world they are going to pay for their new roof, or or a making sure mom gets the care she needs. for some parents, it is even worse. they have to worry about whether the water their kids drink is poisonous. like the family's influence -- families in flint. their schools that are crumbling and rodent infested like many here in detroit. that is not the way it is supposed to be in america. [applause] some of the blame for these changes in the economy rests with big, historic forces like trade and technology. wall street and some of our corporations also however there a lot of -- however, bear a lot of spots ability. too many in the financial industry forgot that the purpose of thinking is to get capital to main street toto invest in new businesses, or expand successful ones like this of any size, and to increase the opportunity for homeownership and unity development. -- community development. it is not to create huge riches for a select few at the expense of everyone else. meanwhile, too many leaders in corporate america are prioritizing their short-term stock price over their workers and their communities. we cannot forget the damage caused by trickle down economics, and right wing ideologues who believe in weakening government owned -- oversight. massive tax cuts for the rich, ripping away to safety net, and breaking the backs of unions. as detroit proves, every day, what has been broken can be rebuilt. stronger than before. [applause] you know throughout this can -- campaign i have said that creating good paying jobs, and raising income is the defining economic challenge of our time. and that in order to get where i need growtho we that is strong, fair, and long-term. that is why we need a new bargain for the new economy. a new bargain to ensure that the jobs of the future are good paying, american jobs. the kind that provide both good income, and the dignity, pride, and since the purpose that come when you have something to look forward to when you get up in the morning. the people that i met as i was walking here with ed were all people who fit that description. proud of what they are doing. grateful for the opportunity to be part of a team that respects one another. looking to continue the growth that this company has enjoyed. that is the kind of jobs we want. you are creating them again in michigan. some of the most exciting, technological breakthroughs are happening right here. not in china. not in germany. but in michigan. [applause] you used to make be 24 bombers run.llow now you are developing driverless cars. that make wind turbines possible . chevy is making electric cars and using clean energy to do it. china let has created more than 500 jobs, and they cornered the market on watches for president s. both my husband and president obama love their shinolas. michigan proves every day that american workers are the best in the world. all they need is a fair chance on a fair playing field. that is why we need this new bargain. here is what it should be. first, corporations have to do right by their communities, and our country. so manyions benefit in ways from being right here in the united states. too often this relationship feels like a one rates -- one way street. too many are not holding up their end of the bargain. they do not recognize that one of the biggest assets on their balance sheet is america. part of the problem is a casino culture on wall street that for too long put short-term speculation ahead of long-term strength. it asks taxpayers to hold the bag any bets go bad. we need to make sure wall street never threatens rain street again -- main street again. [applause] as i have said many times, no bank can be too big to fail. no executive too powerful to jail. [applause] -- understand have to how bad behavior on wall street and pressure to meet quarterly earnings expectations contributes to bad behavior across corporate america. ,ook at companies like nabisco laying off 600 workers in chicago, and moving production to mexico. even though the company has a long -- has long received tax breaks from the state of illinois. they have no problem taking taxpayer dollars with one hand, and giving out pink slips with the other. look at the growing number of companies moving their headquarters overseas just so they can avoid paying their fair share of taxes here at home. one company doing that right now is called johnson control, they parts/rparks -- car . the actually lobbied for an benefited from the auto rescue of 2008. they went to washington with asked.e else and for help. the republicans said, no, we will not help you. jobs and families are at stake. everyone here, all of us taxpayers, we helped to save johnson controls. on their website, they talk about their contracts with the federal government. they say that keeping the country safe and prosperous is, and i quote, the patriotic thing to do. i hope they do the patriotic thing and stay in america. oh pay the taxes that they for everything we -- that they owe for everything we have done for them. [applause] look, i am not interested in condemning whole categories of businesses, or the entire private sector, of course not. i want to send a clear message to every boardroom and executive suite. youou cheat your employees, exploit customers, you pollute the environment, or rip off taxpayers, we will hold you accountable. this country has given you so much. [applause] if you desert america, you will pay a price. -- invest inthing the workers, and your country's future, we will stand with you. here's how it should work, to discourage bad behavior, we will make companies pay for what are called inversions under the tax code. they pretend to sell themselves to accompany overseas, and then they pretend to move their headquarters overseas. i call it a per version under the tax code it is called an in version. we will make you pay for that with a new exit tax. if a company like nabisco outsources and ships jobs overseas we will make you get back the tax breaks you received here in america. if you're not going to invest in us, why should taxpayers invest in you. [applause] let's take that money and put it to work in the communities that are being left behind. doing courage good behavior, let's enact policies that promote long-term investments, like capital gains taxes that only scale downward for truly multitier investments -- multiyear investments, but are higher for short-term. let's promote inshore innovation and investment with new tax credits that make it profitable to take the high road rather than the low road. like michigan ladder company, which has been operating for over a century. they have stopped buying fiberglass ladders from suppliers in china, and started making them here in michigan. i know it made more financial sense. we have got to help other companies discover what they can do as well. i am not asking corporations to be charitable, although that is important. i am asking corporations to realize that when americans prosper, they prosper as well. corporate patriotism might sound -- the smart thing to do as well. that leaves to the second part of the new bargain, companies will have to start treating workers like assets to be cut.ted in, not cost to be [applause] look at what is happening, these days are biggest companies return eight or nine out of every $10 they earn directly back to shareholders. either in the form of dividends or stock buybacks. they are also -- many of them sitting on huge cash reserves. often stashed in foreign tax havens. that is money they are not using to train their workers, or give them a raise. even worse, the link between rising productivity and rising pay has snapped. productivity goes up still, profits go up, executive pay , butup, stock prices go up workers are being left behind. in an economy that is 70% consumption, that is a big problem. it is not have to be that way. we had1990's, when another democratic president that i think did a good job. [applause] whene 1990's -- productivity rose, the typical family income also rose by $10,000. some of you remember that. in fact african-american family income went up as a higher percentage because there were so many jobs and people really making progress. it is good for everyone when workers's incomes go up. america grows with your paycheck rose. when your paycheck grows. this i -- mostly just helps wealthy people. for many in the hands of working people helps everyone, including businesses. that is why we should raise the federal minimum wage. [applause] and fight for even higher minimum wages in places where that make sense. -- makes sense. it is why we should provide incentives for companies that invest in training for employees, which can lead to higher paying jobs. we should create a tax credit for employers that share profits with their workers. automakers here in detroit know the value of transparent profit-sharing plans that come on top of it wages. -- a good way to. -- good wages. we have to take on a good reason why paychecks have not moved and good jobs are scarce. that is the diminishing power of labor unions. [applause] as you know well, unions helped to bring back the auto industry. [applause] more to detroit and michigan during these past few years. union members build the city's, -- build the cities, keep the lights on, and care for our children. the relentless assault on labor, and the erosion of worker bargaining power has not only affected worker pay, it is also a key reason why overtime rules have not been updated in decades. and why family-friendly policies leave, earned sick days, and fair scheduling have not been widely embraced. [applause] -- inequality has been widened by the declines of unions as well. we did stand up to republicans in washington and the house is like here in michigan, who do everything they can. [applause] to reduce union power. we need to stand up for workers. when unions are stand -- strong, families are wrong and america's wrong -- and america is strong. [applause] the third part of the new bargain is government stepping up too. too often washington only works for the wealthy and the well-connected. you know it, i know it, everyone knows it. like what republicans in congress that when they cut off unemployment benefits are people laid off in the great recession who were still working, -- looking work. -- looking for work. darwin candidate thomas trillions of dollars in tax cuts to go mostly to the rich. this needs to change. to come interest have before special interest. american workers and jobs have to come first. one area where we have got me balance wrong over the years is trade. the good news is, america's exports are up 40% under president obama. [applause] i was proud to work with him on iat when i was precarious -- was proud to work with him on that when i was secretary of state. there are real benefits. looking back over the last decade, as globalization picked up steam, there is no doubt that the benefits of trade have not been as widely enjoyed as many predicted. especially when the bush administration failed to enforce our trade laws or stand up to china. corporations may have one got -- won, but many workers lost. they lost jobs, their sense of purpose. cheaper goods are no substitute. america has to do better. there are people in both parties who think we can somehow shut ourselves off nor -- off from the world. states nevernited signed another trade deal, globalization is not going away. our challenge is to establish and enforce fair rules so our workers compete on a level playing field, and countries do not race to the bottom on labor, the environment, and so much else. the way we enforce trade rules right now is completely backwards. initiatingburden of trade cases on workers and unions. we do not take action until after the damage is done. which often means, after workers are laid off. that is ridiculous. the government should be enforcing the law from the beginning so workers can focus on doing their jobs. [applause] and enforcing trade laws, means dealing with one country above all, china. when it comes to trade china is by far the worst rule breaker in the world. it dumps cheap products in the market. subsidizes state owned enterprises who undersell and the global market to hurt our companies. it discriminates against american companies. now that china's economy is slowing down, we can expect even more bad acts from them. it will look to dump products overseas to make up for lost demand at home. we have to stop that right now. we have to prevent, not just china, but other countries from manipulating their currencies to gain an unfair price it vantage. i will do this -- price advantage. i will do this, i will expand -- the way respond we respond to currency manipulation to include duties and tariffs. i know something about china. i have sat across a lot of tables from chinese leaders, discussing and negotiating, and arguing about the toughest issues -- nuclear weapons, cyber warfare, human rights, currency, climate change, and more. i know firsthand that the relationship between our countries is the most complex and confidential in the world -- consequential in the world. the next president will need the next president will need to judgment and expressed to steer that relationship in the right direction, on trade in everything else. -- and every thing else. when it comes to trade deals, here is my standard. i will not support any agreement unless it helps create good jobs and higher wages for american workers and protects our national security. [applause] i need to be able to look into the eyes of any hard-working american, anywhere in our this deal will help readers your income -- raise your income. that is why i voted against the last trade deal called have to -- called have to. it is why i don't support the transpacific trade deal. our policies cannot just be about stopping trade abuses and outsourcing, they also have to be about creating jobs, and higher wages here at home. i agree with my esteemed opponent, senator sanders, we need major new investments in infrastructure. i have put forth a $275 billion plan that would put millions of americans to work. modernizing our word -- roads, bridges, railways, airports. finish the job of come -- connecting all american homes to high-speed internet. [applause] and we will also rebuild our crumbling water systems in flint and around the country. [applause] i also want to create a national infrastructure bank to put private capital to work alongside taxpayer dollars. we have so much work to be done in this country. we need everybody contributed. -- country beating -- contributing. the longer we wait to deal with climate change, the more expensive it gets. [applause] but if we start today, we can create good paying jobs that cannot be outsourced. we can become the clean energy superpower of the 21st century. and we can protect our kids health and futures in the bargain. so far so good, but that is not enough. we need to invest in dynamic sources of growth like small businesses, manufacturing, and technology. i am the only candidate on either side in this race who is actually -- has actually put forward a plan to endorse entrepreneurs and remove the barriers that stand in their way. [applause] you know you see the power of small businesses right here in michigan with companies like detroit bikes and mcclurg pickles. they create jobs, they make the city a dynamic, attractive place. dreams truth is, more die in the parking lot the banks than anywhere else in america. people come with a good idea, and they get turned away. we have to increase access to start up capital. get more help to community banks so more entrepreneurs can get their dreams off the ground, and compete for your business. one important tool to support both small and big business is the export, import bank which helps businesses reach new markets and compete for new customers. inortunately republican congress, along with senator sanders have tried to kill it repeatedly. he also stood with republicans against another important job creating tool, the new market tax credit. that has helped steer investments into neglected communities. that does not make sense to me. we should never let ideological -- ideology get in the way of americans fighting good jobs they need and deserve. [applause] so i think your next president has to offer a serious proposal to jumpstart manufacturing. with the right policies and investments we can ensure america continues to have the world's most competitive auto and auto parts industry. this is not a new fight for me. in the senate, where i represented new york, i also represented some great manufacturing towns like rochester and buffalo. i worked closely with like-minded senators like debbie stevan a. we reached across the aisle to start bipartisan manufacturing caucus. this is a priority for me. to help our manufacturers use all of the latest science to forge stronger steel and we've tougher -- weave tougher fabric. and make stronger class. --glass. i remember how hard i had to work to protect jobs against china. we had to battle the chinese against intellectual property and fair competition. we had to battle the bush administration directly go to bat for a blue-chip american company, but it was with her -- it was worth it. show how like corning trend -- technology can transfer the economy for the better. that creates entirely new industry. it is a powerful force for prosperity and improved quality of life. the next 20 years are poised to be even more transformative than the last. i think it is exciting. you can see that oliver michigan. -- all over michigan. in ann arbor and other places. you cannot have a candid conversation about the jobs of the future without also talking about the challenges posed by technology, automation, and mechanization. we have -- this technology is a force for good, for all of us. as we lady foundation for a brighter future, we have to look yield with the legacy of the past -- we have to deal with the legacy of the past. there are too many economic barriers that disproportionately hold back communities of color. segregation in school, a huge opportunity gap. we need a conference of commitment to invest in all communities, anywhere that have two long been neglected -- too long been neglected. schoolork to replace the to prison pipeline with a cradle to college pipeline. [applause] let's help the millions of people coming home from prison every year find new jobs, not closed doors. [applause] i want to work across our country. not only in urban communities, but in cold country -- coal country, indian country, i want to do everything i can to help immigrants who are forced to live in the shadows. --e's the bottom line creating good paying jobs have to be a top priority. we have to build on the progress we have made the president obama -- made with president obama. as we learned this morning, more than 242,000 jobs just last month. [applause] but you know what, i am not taking that for granted. we have to make sure we have much more in the pipeline so that every american has a chance to get ahead and stay ahead. don't let anyone tell you we cannot do this. as i said in the 90's, we made incomes rise for everyone. we have seen the auto industry pull together and recover from the brink of collapse to record sales. we have done this before. i will tell you, when i hear people running for president who spend all of their time badmouthing america, it really upsets me. you know what, we have work to do. instead of complaining, let's join hands, lift ourselves up. let's make a difference. let's build tomorrow. let's make sure every american has a eighth -- has the same chance to live up to his or her dog given potential. -- god-given potential. hank you. -- thank you so much. 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[applause] julie: good morning, conservatives. without further into, i would like to welcome the chairman of andnational committee party his special guest star, sean hannity. [applause] ♪ >> howery all doing -- how are you doing? i gave out when thousands of balls last night. welcome to chairman of the rnc. >> thank you. click so good to see you all. there is the liberal media. the new york times, you have to leave. welcome, everybody. what did you think of the debate last night? this, at the end of this process -- if you are here at my speech yesterday, you know to stand, andple at the end of the process i say, if your guy does not win, we support the nominee? i think it is important if we want to save the country from another obama term, which would be hillary, that we have to unite. -- to turn to your m view and ask, talk about the rnc role. rants previous: -- >> whoever the nominee is from our party will get the full backing of the republican party. process.t a it is simple. we set out a process, republicans are voting a lot of the states. to thend delegates convention, and then at the convention, obviously it takes the majority of the delegates to become the nominee, and that person joins the republican party. to make this tried case, and it takes longer than you have on a 32nd response on television, but i went to calibrate every one in remind you what is going on. tohave candidates competing be the nominee of the republican party, who want to join the republican party. at our convention in cleveland. when they join the republican party, obviously, they take in what we have been able to build the rnc. we do not take sides, regardless of what you may think or read. take at no side that we the republican party. we build a lot of the things that you might think are boring turnout,, engagement, so that ballot programs i know everything you buy, don't buy, what car you drive, how much money you make. what beer you drink. sean: what do i drink? reince priebus if i had to guess coors light? sean: coors light. you have a headache this morning from drinking too much last night, if you have a headache, it is not your fault. it is bush's fault. reince priebus: there is nothing controversial about a party that has their act together. we were embarrassed in 2012. we bragged about -- we were reading about everyone bragging about what barack obama did on the ground. we have to do the same thing. the candidates right now are not worried about buying data licenses and building user -- user interfaces. my question is who is doing? the answer is, the republican party. they have to get what we built in order to win. for ted cruz, marco rubio, donald trump, they need to have a national party that has its act together. that is what we are all about. this is important. -- sean: this is important. if you look at the turnout this year, it is almost identical in terms of the enthusiasm that barack obama had in 2008 and the democrats were down 33% in the primary. that would tell me enthusiasm is on our side. right track, wrong track, a vast majority of americans and we are on the wrong track. that would be a good indicator this could be a great year for the republicans. you are seeing historical turnout across this country that we have never seen before. we have 17 million people watching the foxnews debate. sean hannity: you have the ratings already? reince priebus reince: the point is, there is some drama. we know that. there is some intrigue. with that comes an incredible amount of enthusiasm. we called a program called republican leadership initiative. we have some people out there that are a part of it. we have over 10,000 people that have signed up for six weeks of training to be ready to go in all of the targeted turks that we have identified. sean: this is going to be new this presidential election. that is you have basically adopted what the democrats very wisely had adopted for barack obama, and that is targeting every voter in every county in every state, that when it comes election day, they will be getting calls and reminded to go out and vote, how important this election is. reince: exactly right, but we have to admit something. we are a midterm party that doesn't lose but we have a hard time electing presidents. we have to figure out how to win, but we had to win a cultural vote in this country. that is a different process. it requires total immersion, complete saturation in communities, in many cases that we do not represent in congress or state legislature. if we do not put 10 people every 10 blocks and target the states -- we are not just talking about fracking and clean coal. you have to talk about the issues that matter in communities. we also have to do things like have pizza parties, get to know people, and cash in -- sean: maybe they would be happier with coors light. i have a serious question here. you heard mitt romney's speech yesterday. you all heard it? i voted for mitt romney, i thought he would have been a great president, and i was not happy with the speech yesterday. when he is suggesting is more important, and what the audience want to hear from you -- what he is suggesting is that people in ohio vote for john kasich and the people in florida vote for rubio. in other words, there seems to be a strategy to target one candidate and force a brokered convention, which i would argue probably is not good for you or the republican party. i think the people ought to decide. [applause] reince: the people are going to decide, that is the point. there is no way that the delegates are not going to decide. hang on a second. if you were at the convention, you would be bound on the first vote, and the majority of you would choose the nominee. whoever the majority chooses will be the nominee of our party. so that is our pledge to you. the other thing i would say is this. a lot of this is early talk. just so you understand, there are 1237 delegates needed to be the nominee of our party. there are 1744 delegates left to be distributed. we are a long way to go. in fact, everyone is talking about ohio and florida, but between now and that day, there are 14.5% of delegates yet to be distributed. we have four states going this saturday, another four on sunday, puerto rico. the odds of a contested convention are very small. i have been saying that for a long time. sean: could i give you a hypothetical? i'm not putting you on the spot. let's say we go to the convention and rather than getting people worked up, let's say candidate a is leading by a significant amount does not -- but does not get to 1237. we go the first round of voting he does not get the 1237. it is now the second round and the delegates are freed up, they can go anywhere they want. let's say the candidate has the most delegates but did not get the nomination on the first vote, ends up losing the nomination. don't you think the people that are with a guy they got the most votes are going to be angry at their guy is not win? reince: the last time we have been through this -- first of all, you should all become delegates to the convention. the last time we have been through this if it did happen, which i think is highly unlikely and i said -- sean: what are the odds it will not happen? reince: i don't know. 85%-90%? i think people want to know just in case. just in case, we will play that game, i think what would happen would be going back to 1976. one round, reagan challenged for the convention and ford won. in the second round you still have the same rules that apply. the majority of states to be nominated. sean: every delegate can switch. reince: in most cases. and some they are bound for two votes or three votes. some cases they are not bound at all even on the first vote. delegate allocation rules were not something we started with many years ago. it used to be our party would have a convention and at the convention the people on the floor would choose our nominee. you would all compete in the states to be the delegate. maybe you are heading up one of the republican groups and you became a delegate from wisconsin or whatever and you would show up and vote. at some point some people said i have an idea. why don't we tie a primary or a caucus to the actions of a delegate so we can get more people involved? that is how all these rules came into play. suddenly you have delegates going to the convention that are now tied to the outcomes of caucuses and primaries. if that were to happen, we are sort in territory our party has not seen. again, highly, highly unlikely. sean: i've tried to explain both on radio and tv and i don't know if this is confusing. it's confusing to me. we have in some states proportional distribution of delegates. we have ohio, florida, winner take all states. why would it be better, and i'm thinking out loud, to maybe have a universal system for every state where perhaps when he the congressional district will be the determining factor of whether or not you get the delegates were not in that district? reince: there are states rights. sean: i am not against states rights. i am a right-winger here. everybody loves uniformity and clarity. you admit it is confusing ? reince: at the same time i would bet this crowd, the last thing they would want is a republican national committee dictating to all the states and territories exactly how they will operate. [applause] we have a system to take a national candidate. sean: i get that. reince: those are debates we have constantly. a lot of these folks have been delegates or at conventions in every four years we debate. should we start with iowa and new hampshire and south carolina? why not another state. the winner take all in the proportional calendar. people are debating that right now. is the process too fast or too slow? those are debates we have. as of now we have proportionality through march 14. on the 15th state can go winner take all if they want to. sean: why can't they prior to march? reince: we put in a rule years ago to add the entire month of march to be proportionate. remember in 2012 the entire month of proportional. the rules committee, which a lot of people here hated in tampa, they think they cut proportionality in half. they actually added two weeks of proportionality. as a convention to removed proportionality. they took the five states and made it an eight state majority. we added in two weeks of proportionality said he would not have a national primary in the first two weeks of march. sean: it is sort of related. in any way as the chairman of the rnc doesn't bother you that there seems to be an effort to get to the brokered convention, which you say is not going to happen, but it seems to be a locust rated, planned out campaign outline the governor romney yesterday to get her brokered convention. reince: at some point -- this is interesting. sean: you don't think it matters that they spend money? reince: they can do with they want to do but eventually the voters are going to vote and they will decide. and are getting to vote or not getting to vote. sean: they are trying to influence the process and await it would be disruptive, right? reince: it is a strategy that people can use. look, i would suggest it's better to win races and acutely delegates. sean: i want to get a feeling from the crowd. the fact that there are people we don't even really know who they are have designed a plan to create chaos to me. reince: i would prefer reagan's 11th commandment. sean: did you watch the debate last night? reince: fox news, right. fair and balanced. sean: i think what the most important thing and you have been very -- you have told every campaign you are neutral. you have told every campaign at the end of this process only have a candidate you will support. what does that mean for the candidate? you talked about targeting voters. what does this mean when the rnc gets behind -- reince: when i walked in the door at the rnc we were $26 million in debt. credit cards suspended for nonpayment. sean: he sounded a democrat. reince: we had about 80 employees. we have moved on to thousands of employees. we are covering district across this country in ways we never have before. we invested over $100 million in data. we are twice as big as the dnc. [applause] sean: how is your money going into -- reince: it goes directly into funding the mechanics, the ground game, the data operation. we have far more. if anybody wants to look this up and check the rnc versus dnc fundraising, it is not even close. unfortunately the dnc is not our competition. our competition is hillary clinton, that machine, and they built their program differently. they built it around a candidate. barack obama built his data operation in chicago around barack obama. we built hours around republican national committee that one of the candidates plugs into. there is no option. there is no entity going to find a ground operation. that someone is going to plug into. the candidates are not funding a national ground operation right now. they are worried about what is going to happen. who was doing the work? the republican national committee. we need to be successful. [applause] sean: i can predict with certainty everything, and you know what the game plan of the democrats -- you know what hillary is going to do. whoever the nominee is, is a racist and there is a war on women. i see more women in here than men. [applause] there is a war on women. republicans are homophobes. they want dirty air and water. that came out of obama's mouth. they want the young people in the old people to fend for themselves. your friends like paul ryan will be pushing every grandmother in the country out of her wheelchair. are you prepared on that front to deal with that, whoever the candidate is? and i would ask how ready are you? i read this week the democrats are ready for whoever the nominee is. how much research have you guys done? reince: we have a full-time department at the republican national committee. we've been preparing a book on hillary clinton for years. obviously there is more to do. sean: how many millions of pages? reince: you might also want to talk to the fbi and the doj. for what they have in store for hillary clinton. i assure you when they hand out immunity agreements around your employees, is not for something that is not real. sean: the you think hillary looks good in orange? reince: we might have to find out. hillary clinton might not even be eligible to run by the time we get to november. [cheers] sean: are you prepared for that? reince: on the other front, even in the house and the things paul ryan is talking about having an agenda. we did not have an agenda for years ago. you harped on that on your show continuously, but having the five things you believe in. what you going to do next quarter and go through those five things. let's talk about the next five things you did. having a legislative agenda. we also have to have a person on the ballot that people believe in that has a vision and people want to have a beer with. we also have to have an operation that can identify voters that are unique to presidential years and we can turn that into a better job in 2012 so we can win once and for all, say the supreme court for the next generation, and make sure we get our debt bomb under control and get our country back. sean: let me ask you the last question. i know it is on the minds of many of the people here. if you look in the state polls, the exit polls of every state, there is anywhere between 55% and 65% of republicans that feel betrayed. i think the republican governors have done a great job. they really have. reince: you have two different situations. [applause] sean: we have 900 plus or legislative seats, more senate seats, more house seats. the rnc has gotten elected but on the issue of repealing or replacing obamacare and the issue and promise of 2014 to stop executive amnesty, there is a feeling that republicans did not fight. they were too timid, afraid of getting blamed for a government shutdown. reince: if i could single-handedly repeal obamacare and if i could tear up executive amnesty i would do it right here. sean: but they have the power of the purse. reince: they do, but they have a constitution that provides for veto authority that the president has. that is constitutional as well. i am for you. i don't think you can promise things you cannot deliver. that is clearly something you can't do. sean: let's give the chairman -- no. are you saying you don't believe they could abuse the power of the purse on obamacare? reince: they can. and i wish the legislature would. as the chairman of the rnc i don't have the authority to walk across the street and pass the bill single-handedly. we get people elected. that is what primaries are for. that is what the choice is on the ballot. sean: you are not in congress but i think what this crowd wants to see you talk about his paul ryan laying out a positive agenda. i think they want to make sure if they get the house, the senate, the presidency that these things are done. [applause] reince: you need to have a person in the white house to sign those bills. sean: did you guys have a good time? reince: thank you everybody. sean: chairman of the rnc. reince: if you look down here, we are one of your main sponsors because we want you to know we care about you and we want you to be proud of our party. thank you. sean: give it up for the chairman. reince: thank you. [applause] ♪ >> it hurt off, jennie garth more criticized donald trump. her remarks are 20 minutes. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome president and cofounder of tea party patriots, jenny beth martin. [applause] >> good afternoon. you know, the president of united states last addressed this gathering eight years ago. do the math. it was a different president then. as he sat in the oval office preparing for that speech he came across a phrase that confused him. he asked, what is this movement you keep talking about in this speech? the speechwriter, stunned, responded "the conservative movement." the one started back in the 1960's when the conservatives first took root. that apparently did not sit well with the president. let me tell you something. i whooped gary bauer's ass. there is no movement. i wish i had known that story eight years before this presidency, rather than eight years after. is it any doubt we started to doubt the republican party. a man claiming to be conservative. he did not govern as a conservative. [applause] he oversaw the largest spending increase since lyndon johnson's great society. and when big banks got in trouble, his solution was to force congress to hand over $700 billion we do not have. an worse, he laid the groundwork for barack obama who in one month of taking office called president bush's $700 billion bailout and raise it by $87 billion again with borrowed money. it was seven years ago last week in response to that $787 billion so-called stimulus package that had worked its way through congress that the modern tea party movement was born. we are just regular people, nothing special. we do share something in common. we love our country. we love what makes our country special. the constitution and the rights it protects. [applause] jenny: the rights that come from our creator and not from government. our freedom. we are fighting to defend it against liberals who want to fundamentally transform it. many of us are angry and upset at our government because we see washington insiders making deals that grow the government and increase the national debt with no regard to how their deals impact our lives. we want to make a difference. i bet that motivates a lot of you. when rick ran against the stimulus bill on the floor of the chicago mercantile exchange, we were ready. the day after that, two dozen strangers got on conference call that talk about will be could do to take of action based on rick santelli's call to have a party like our founding fathers. within a week we held protests in cities all across this country and by april 15 we had organized more than 850 of them. engaging americans who are fed up with our government. we have not looked back since. let me ask you a question. how many of you here today are angry and upset with the federal government? [applause] jenny: i am upset. those in washington never seem to hear us. i helped organize the march in washington dc in 2009. i kept saying washington, can you hear us now? business as usual continued. it's like they are tone deaf to us, who they are supposed to be representing. i'm upset that when we organized ourselves into a tea party movement and we worked in 2010 to remove from office all those liberals who voted for obama care we gave republicans control of the house. the republicans made corrupt deals that increased the debt. i am upset because when we began working with others who are just as angry as we were, the protests in the bailouts, and to express ourselves about our government, the government turned into targeted us with the most feared agency at its disposal, the irs. they tried to take our free speech from us and silenced much of our effort. frankly we still feel the effects of that today. i am upset that even after they revealed the irs had deliberally targeted american citizens just for using our first amendment rights, freedom of speech, freedom of association, she has not been held accountable. no one has held her accountable. it was almost three years ago. i am upset and angry. i know i am not the only one who feels that way. do you feel this way? [applause] let me give you some good news. to paraphrase mark twain, the rumors of the tea party's death are greatly exaggerated. [applause] stop and think about the top three contenders for the republican nomination for president. all of them to varying degrees are running as tea party candidates. you have marco rubio who ran for the senate in 2010 explicitly on tea party values. unfortunately once he got the washington he allowed himself to be used by the other side on an issue of great importance to us. he has been trying to make up for that ever sense. ted cruz ran for the senate in 2012. [cheers] explicitly as a tea party candidate. our people helped elect him. once he was in office ted cruz champion the tea party values. [applause] he saw the establishment and he stayed true to his principles and true to our principles and his promises. and donald trump, he decided to run for president and he said himself, self, this tea party movement is good for me. so he took on one of the biggest issues that drives the tea party today and he did his best to make it his own. and since then i have heard him say over and over again, "i love the tea party." he has done his best to cloak himself in the garb of our establishment. think about that for just a moment. seven years ago the tea party movement did not exist. today republican candidates running for president know if they want to win the nomination, they have to appear at the very least to be tea party. in seven years time that is not bad. not bad at all. not dead yet. [applause] jenny: we need to speak some hard truths this morning. one of these candidates i just talked about is not tea party at all. i know donald trump says he loves the tea party but that is not what it takes to be tea party. [applause] if you want to be tea party, you have to love our country and love our constitution. you have to be willing to fight for them above your own interests. you have to put freedom above your own interests. let me ask you a question. have you ever heard donald trump talk about the tea party? i have not. i have got serious questions about his fidelity to the document tea partiers revere. he said he would "open up the libel laws" to make it easier for him to sue unkind newspapers. the right to speak freely is enshrined in our constitution. [applause] jenny: that is what makes america different from every other country on the face of the earth. here we can speak our minds, even criticize our government, and even criticize our political leaders without fear of reprisal. we are protected by our constitution to do so. when i hear a candidate say he was to mess with our rights to free speech, i fear for our constitution and our country. that is not tea party. in fact, the tea party fought tooth and nail to keep our free speech. that is not the only reason i know donald trump is not what he says he is. look at his history and his background raises very serious questions. donald trump stole a line from ronald reagan. he says he wants to make america great again. i will borrow a line from ronald reagan. "trust but verify." [cheers] jenny: here is what i verified. many of donald trump's critics say he is inconsistent. he was for universal health care before he was against it. he once supported the biggest tax increase in history and now he says he wants to cut taxes. he was pro-choice before he became pro-life. he donated to democrats before he donated to republicans. yes, he he is inconsistent. but if you look at his motivation for taking those positions, you will see in fact there is a remarkable consistency. it is the consistency of serving his own interests. [applause] jenny: you can always count on this, on any given issue at any given time. donald trump will take the position that serves his interest as he perceives it at that time. [applause] are you still not sure? listen up. when a little old lady, a widow, refused to sell her property he could knock down her house for a parking garage next to his casinos, donald trump tried to use the government to take her property away from her. the property rights, the right to use your property as you see fit is one of the essential elements of limited government. anyone who does not understand and defend the property rights has no business serving in elected office, let alone the presidency. [cheers] using the government to force a property owner to give up her property that she does not want to sell, that is not tea party. in 2013 when so many of us were fighting to stop the gang of eight, trump issued statements saying he was for amnesty. for the last eight months he has been saying he's against amnesty and he was the building wall. in the last few days he said he may have told the new york times some thing entirely different. we don't know because it is off the record and he will not release the tape. last night he said he is softening his position on immigration. we don't even know where he stands on this issue today. that is not tea party. [applause] a few years back donald trump decided to trade his reputation as a real estate tycoon and money by markets and seminars. he opened up what he called the university bearing his name. it apparently took a lot of people for a lot of money. so much so he is now defending not one, not two, but three separate lawsuits on the matter. 5000 plaintiffs. scamming people out of their hard earned money is definitely not tea party. [applause] in each of those cases he was serving his own interests as he perceived them as the time. he is about love of himself. the tea party is about love of country and the love of our constitution. [applause] i know you are angry and i know you're upset. i know that donald trump is tapping into that anger. it's a smart campaign strategy because he makes it seems like he shares our frustrations. it is like he is fighting on our behalf. when he says he wants to make america great again, we cheer because we all believe america is great. we appreciate what sounds like love of country on his part. it's a seductive hitch. i have several friends and colleagues who support him even as i speak. here is what i think. donald trump loves himself first, last, and everywhere in between. [cheers] he loves himself more than our country. he loves himself more than the constitution. he does not love you or me. he does not love the tea party. donald trump has no business thinking he is tea party. and every tea party person that loves the constitution should take that into account when casting their vote. and why should you vote for donald trump anyway? if you are tea party, you have a much better candidate to support. ted cruz. [cheers] ever since he came to the senate and i know him as a man of his word, a man of honor, a man of integrity, a man who keeps his promises. and let me tell you, in washington that makes him a rare man. a very, very rare man. when it was time to fight the implementation of obamacare or the increase in the debt ceiling or work to block amnesty for illegal immigrants, ted cruz led the charge on issue after issue. ted cruz stood strong for our constitution. he has kept his promises and he will not back down. i am proud tea party patriots citizens fund endorses ted cruz for president. [cheers] [applause] it is not just about a man, it is about our principles. our candidate really is the constitution. we support ted cruz because he reveres and defends the constitution. [applause] i am proud to know that any time we are in a battle against washington insiders i can always count on ted cruz to be on the right side. to be right by our side. we have a historic opportunity this year. we have the most conservative candidate since ronald reagan running for president. i have never been able to vote for a candidate who is conservative. he has demonstrated in his campaign that he can beat donald trump and win the general election against hillary clinton. but he needs our help. that means i need your help. please go to our website at tea party patriots citizens fund, or go to our booth and help us make calls to get targeted voters out. we are about to move into the winner take all stage. that is where the nomination will be decided. if you're looking to make a difference, volunteer to help and nominate a true conservative and someone that loves the constitution. join us to do this. our country is great because of her people and because of our constitution. in ted cruz we have a man who understands that, who respects that, who will lead us into the future guided by the time-tested principles established in our founding. most importantly he understands our rights flow from our creator, not our government. he understands -- that means the government is meant to be a servant of the people, not the other way around. ted cruz is not going to back down from standing for our freedom. neither will i. and i hope neither will you. thank you very much. [cheers] thank you. [applause] ♪ >> we will have more coverage of the conference tomorrow with presidential candidate marco rubio. watch our road to the white house coverage at 11:30 a.m. eastern time here on c-span. >> tv has 48 hours of nonfiction books. atsaturday night, 10:00 p.m. eastern. many people think that it is a story of disappointment and betrayal. >> discussing the history of republican politics in his book why the right went wrong. the cohostviewed by of fox news channel size. coming up sunday, index, like with other investigative journalist jane mayer. her most recent book is dark money. joining the conversation. taking your phone calls, e-mails and tweets from noon to 3:00 p.m. eastern. watch for to be all weekend every weekend on c-span two. television for serious readers. >> speaking at the conservative political action conference, john kasich discussed his residency as governor of ohio and a number of congress. then he sits down for an interview with fox news host. this is 35 minutes. [applause] john kasich: great to be here at cpac. it's great to be here today in a little different situation. why don't we get to it. there have been a lot of young people here. i want to make sure i have a few words for all of you. you're wondering, this guy is on the stage. someday, could it be me? and a young man or woman here today, of course it can. i want to tell you that i've been very lucky in my life. in 1976 there was almost a brokered convention. it was at that time that i got to meet ronald reagan. i knocked on people's doors at midnight, 1:00 in the morning. they come answering their doors like, why are you banging on my door's? i said, i need to get ronald reagan on the ballot. we got him on the ballot, and then i was at the convention with governor reagan and i at a very young age had found myself in charge of five states for governor reagan. he lost that convention, but i was also up there when he told people, at the end -- he said, i may have lost the battle, but i did not lose the war. you need to understand something about ronald reagan. the establishment never liked him. they never liked newt gingrich, and they don't like me. why? we are change agents. we want to change the way this country works. [applause] we don't take orders from lobbyists or special interests or people who live on k street. reagan was an incredible man because he had a strong ideology. i was honed in that as a young man. in 1982 i ran for congress. i was 30 years of age. in 1982, no one wanted to appear with ronald reagan. it was great because that meant i got to spend more time with ronald reagan. he came and campaigned for me in ohio. in 1982, running on reagan principles of tax cuts and less spending and less regulation and individual power, the strength and power of the individual, 1982, i was the only republican in america to defeat an incumbent them across on a conservative message. [applause] i shared ronald reagan's philosophy on building a strong defense. i want you to know, when i'm president and i sit across the chair or the table from vladimir putin, when he looks into my eyes on the way to my soul, you know what he will see? a freedom fighter. so i went to congress and participated in military buildup, but i also have to tell you that i also found waste and abuse inside the department of defense, and i fought it. do you know why? we can't squander resources. we have to make sure the resources we spend on defense get to our men and women in uniform on the front line and does not get squandered by bureaucrats or defense contractors that are not playing fair. [applause] and then six years into my term as a congressman, i got on the budget committee. there were people that said, we can kind of managed this budget. i looked at the republican and democrat budget and i did not think either of them were worth the paper they were printed on. i was at home filling up at the gas tank and i was complaining. a guy walked around the corner and said, if you don't like what's going on in washington, what are you going to do about it? i flew to washington and had a meeting with my staff and said, we are going to write the budget for the united states of america. they said, there are 100 people on capitol hill who are writing budgets. we have six people. i said, i know we are overstaffed but if we stay out of each other's way, we can get things done. there was a bush budget, a black caucus budget, and a kasich budget. the vote on the kasich budget was 405 no, 30 yes. year after year i fought the establishment. i fought the establishment because they wanted the status quo. my third budget i got more votes than the president got for his. i was building a team of people, and in 1993 when bill clinton wanted to propose a tax increase, i said we should have an alternative. the republican said, oh no, let's criticize. said, i did not come to washington to criticize. i came to build something. 36 people spoke in the conference. 34 said we should not have an alternative, and 2 said we should. i walked to the back of the room with newt. he said, we are doing better than i thought we would be doing. we offered that budget that year. joe scarborough says repeatedly on his show, it was the fighting that was going on to balance the federal budget without political considerations that got him involved in politics. we swept to victory in 1994 and we took control for the first time in four years in 1995 with a conservative agenda. [applause] we went through the ups and downs in the clinton administration. clinton is a guy who if the mob is coming for him, he gets in front of it and called it a parade. cutting regulation and reducing taxes are about economic opportunity and job creation. in that budget agreement that we made with the clinton administration where we forced them, and they were for nothing real and they were for higher taxes, we cut the capital gains tax, we provided a family tax credit, and we achieved the first balanced budget since man walked on the moon. and guess what? america's economy was booming. people had jobs, wages were growing. then it was time for me to leave this place. i'm glad we are not in d.c. because every time i go there, i break into a cold sweat. i stepped out of politics thinking i would never go back. but my state was in so much trouble. we had lost 350,000 jobs. 20% of our budget operating was in the hole. if you know when you're doing and you don't worry about who's yapping at you or criticizing you are complaining, it's amazing what you can get done. guess where we are today. instead of being $8 billion in the hole, we are $2 billion in the black. we are up over 400,000 jobs. our pensions are safe, our credit is good, and our wages are growing faster than the national average. people have hope in ohio. [applause] let me tell you all something else. there's always a lot of questions. is kasich a conservative? i reformed welfare, balanced the federal budget, promoted more school choice with charter schools and the voucher program, more than about anybody. we are reforming welfare again. we have shrunk the state of ohio's unemployment to the lowest level in 30 years. get over it. [applause] i come from the reagan and kemp school. when our economies are doing better, we have an obligation to reach out to those people who live in the shadows, to give them an opportunity to achieve their god-given potential. that means the mentally ill, the mentally ill should not be sleeping under a bridge or living in our prisons. they have a right to be treated, to get on their feet and assume their god-given purpose. [applause] the drug addicted can be rehabbed and in our state we have an 80% success rate in treating people in the prisons and putting them in the community, where we give them the responsibility to get on their feet and the working people, the working poor in this country -- isn't it time we reward them for working hard and getting a pay raise rather than having them turn it down because they lose more benefits than they gain? let's get back to what makes sense to give everybody a chance to rise. [applause] we want our developmentally disabled to be fully integrated, and we are working towards that. our friends in the minority community, we want them to develop entrepreneurship. we want them to believe they are as a part of america as anybody else who lives in this country. so i ran for election in ohio, one of the toughest states to win. i won 26% of the african-american vote, 60% of women, and 51% of union households, and i won by 30 points in ohio. bringing people together works. [applause] now, a message for everyone, but particularly to the young people who are here today. here's what it is. you should all know -- this is my present to you. you are all made special. no one has ever been made like you. and no one ever will. i believe that the lord makes us special for a special purpose. do you understand that, young lady? you have gifts that no one has. no one is quite like you because you were made special. your job is to find those gifts and to live a life bigger than yourself and change the world in which you live. you see, the lord doesn't care whether you are running for president or whether you are helping someone in the hospital with the family who is depressed or making sure that no one gets bullied, or making sure you are there to listen to one of your friends who may be having a hard time -- the lord does not measure us one against the other. one big task, the other little -- we are all equal in his eyes. you are made special to come together as part of a giant mosaic. and when you lose that sight or when you never find it, the mosaic remains incomplete. but when we as a society decide that we can use those tools, and let me tell you -- the strength of our country and the spirit of our country does not rest in washington. the big wigs -- listen, i can get our budget balanced. i can do those things. i know how to do them. but you see, it's a two-part issue. it's not just what happens up here, but the strength of our country, the vitality of our country, the spirit of our country rests in our families, our neighborhoods, our communities, and our states. don't wait for somebody to show up to fix the problems where you are. fix them yourselves. [applause] i'm counting on you too, guys. for some reason, we think we have to wait for somebody in the government to come in on a big white charger to solve our problems. they will not happen. i'm going to give you your power. send education, welfare, infrastructure, health care for the poor, job training, all of that back to where we live. and you will have more power. we are going to cut taxes because we have to run america from the bottom up. that's what we have to do. that's what works. the greatness of our country is not waiting for another government program. some of them are important. you know how we really fix things in america? when we put our shoulder to the wheel to make our schools work better, when we fight drug abuse in our communities, you've got to tell a kid, don't you be doing those drugs. you've got to stand up and fight against poverty in your community and get businesses in to work with people on welfare to get them trained so they can get work. we need to encourage young people, you adults out here. join a mentoring program. get kids to see their future. don't leave them behind. these things don't take government. they take us believing in ourselves. [applause] in a little town i came from, we did not wait for the president. we did not wait for anybody. we were neighbors and we took care of one another. and we do it again. we will fix the programs up here that the federal officials need to fix without regard to politics, with good conservative principles. but when that power comes back, you take care of your job. if i need you to help me break through these problems in washington, i will give you a call. if you need me, i will come running to your neighborhood. let's make a deal, ok? and we will rebuild america and its spirit and make it the best it has ever been. we can do it, and we will do it. thank you all. [applause] now, i have a friend that is going to come out here. here's an old buddy of mine. [laughter] >> hello, cpac! [applause] >> this is the first time i've been on the left my whole life. [laughter] >> how are you? >> this is exciting. the young people having hopes and dreams and goals and not becoming cynical and not becoming some political hack, and believing the world can be just what you think it can be -- it's fantastic. >> isn't it great to see all these young people -- this is why the election is so important. it's about their future. >> absolutely correct. >> you had the big debate last night. i have a few process questions. you are one of the only states stage whoy one on the did not get a nickname from donald trump. are you ok with that? >> i'm fine. who knows what nickname he would give me, you know? >> i think it's on the minds of many of us here -- we had a speech by mitt romney yesterday. how many people in this room supported mitt romney? everybody. i was a little disappointed because what it sounded like was a strategy to me -- i thought he would have been a great president. sounded like a strategy. rubio wins florida, ted cruz wins the states that he can't. in that sense, you are part of their strategy to make that come about and have a floor fight at the convention. gov. kasich: you have to leave it to the voters to decide what they want. i don't depend on any strategy. my wife, i get strategy from her. not so much about politics, but that's where i get my orders from. let me say something about donald trump. you will not beat him by smearing him. you will beat him by having a vision and showing people the are frustrated. who are they? >> i'm one. i'm frustrated. gov. kasich: i'm talking about the underemployed. there are so many insecurities out there, and i get it. i grew up in that town. you grew up there, right? the key is, who's got the record and the vision, and not just political gibberish like, i'm going to do this, i'm going to do that. i've already done these things. i want to go back and do them again to get the country moving. [applause] >> i want to talk about your record. >> you like a positive campaign instead of negative? [applause] i'm frustrated for two reasons. >> a lot of kids are doing the right thing to get their education, they go home and live in mom and dad's basement because there's no jobs available. 50 million americans in poverty. here is why i'm even more frustrated. republicans in washington. i'm not talking about republican governors. i know your record in ohio. republicans in washington have been weak and ineffective. they have sought to keep their own power. they would not use the power of the purse to stop obamacare. they wouldn't defund executive amnesty. are you all frustrated about that like i am? that's part of the frustration. i think people want to hear from you about why people feel as angry as they do. gov. kasich: they keep electing people and they're not getting what's promised. i have to be careful to not make big promises i can't keep. here's what i believe. the reason why we have a poor economy is we over regulate, we are choking small business, we are raising taxes, and we are blowing up the budget. what do you do to fix it? commonsense regulations with an eye on rewarding small businesses. secondly, cut the taxes for businesses. cut individual rates. make it simpler, like reagan did. and have a path to a balanced budget. when special interests come yelling and screaming, say we are going to get this budget moving. if we don't do these three things and work on workforce, we will fall short. here's what the congress needs. it needs a dose of leadership from the white house. paul ryan will be a good one. i can't wait to get there. if you don't have a seat belt in the first 100 days, i will give a plan to freeze federal regulations, reduce taxes on businesses and individuals, we are going to fix social security, we are going to fix the border, we are going to have immigration taken care of, we are going to restore relations with our allies. that's what we're going to do. buy a seatbelt. [applause] we need shock and awe. we need to say to congress, this is where we are going. when i talk about working with democrats, i work with the blue dogs. they are more conservative than a bunch of republicans. any of those blue dog types that want to come and bring a conservative side to support us to fix these problems, they are welcome. but they're not going to call the tune. >> we had 15 contests. walk the people in the audience through your path you see that will get us the nomination to 1237 delegates. gov. kasich: i don't think anybody's going to get that. i'm going to win ohio. let me put you in my shoes. nobody covered me. no one knew who i was. i had to fight for every second. i have not raised a lot of money. i'm not doing a lot better. cannot get any attention. they thought, he will never get on the stage for a debate. then they said, he'll never make it to new hampshire. then they said he would not survive super tuesday. i'm the last governor standing, there's only 4 of us and we are the little engine that can. believe in us. [applause] and now finally, finally, finally the country is beginning to get a little bit of who i am. i will take this every day as compared to one of those debates. this is the way we ought to run it. coming out and talk to people. [applause] mr. hannity: do you think it is going to be a brokered convention? mr. kasich: i do. mr. hannity: let's say you get to the convention and candidate a does not get there, and candidate b is significantly behind. with a brokered convention, do you think candidate a supporters will be angry if another candidate gets the nomination? mr. kasich: it has to be done fairly. i was there as a young man in 1976 when reagan tried to derail jerry ford. as crazy as this year is, and s and there is nobody who would not say this is nuts, can you think anything cooler that a convention when we learn how america works and our kids will learn more about american politics than they are from the kardashians? not that i have anything against the kardashians. you cannot have a bunch of people in the smoke-filled rooms, who are the establishment, and you and i have never been the establishment, ok? my only fear of the convention is that these connected interests would dominate, and we are going to have to prevent that. mr. hannity: you think your only path to the nomination -- mr. kasich: i have to win ohio. i have to win 68 of the remaining delegates. ted is around 59 or 60. it is unlikely. if nobody goes to the convention with enough delegates, we are going to have to meet -- they told me that convention will be held in cleveland. that is interesting. [applause] mr. hannity: what about your background? that is to say about a lot of people do not know you, and maybe i am showing my age, but i remember you and bill clinton was president and newt gingrich became the speaker of the house, and you guys took on a sitting president, you did get to a balanced budget, you did get to a surplus, but now we have $20 trillion in debt, and the numbers are much bigger. how do you duplicate that? mr. kasich: let me remind you of something that is sad. when i left washington, we had a projected $5 trillion surplus. we could have had private accounts for young, which would have given them to grow with the ability of the strength of the congress. who controlled congress? a republican house, a republican senate, and a republican president. they blew $5 trillion. we have to think about this. at the end of the day, if we cannot control this fiscal policy, if we cannot reduce the taxes or control regulations, we will drift and we will have a lousy economy, and these young people who want to realize their purpose will be denied it. what politicians worry about to much is being popular. if that is your goal and you worry about the next election, get out, go away, do something else. you are there to raise everybody and make hard choices. this is not rhetoric. check my record. a lot of people run away from their record. please go check my record and you will see it is true. if we stand together, we will have victory in this country. mr. hannity: chris christie said there is no way to balance the budget without dealing with entitlements. he said to me, he goes, politicians are already stealing your social security. it was never put in a lockbox. do you raise the eligibility age to one day before i die? does that mean you will means-test it and the government gets to confiscate all the money that you said they would give you back in later in your life? is that the only way to do it? mr. kasich: there is no third rail. if you think there is a third rail, do not run. you go in there to do something, and can we fix social security? yes. it will mean you if you are wealthy throughout your life, you will still get social security, but not as much. those who depend on it, will get. mr. hannity: and you legalize the government will be stealing money from some people? mr. kasich: i had a plan 17 years ago that would have fixed this plan for 75 years and they did not deal with it. and i do not want to get the details, but there are iou's. the problem is we have a lot of retirees live longer, and fewer workers. this is a demographic issue. let's be as fair as we can. medicare and medicaid, i believe we can have a system that gives us better quality care at lower prices. i took medicaid in ohio from a 10.5% to 2.5% growth, and we did not take one person off the rolls. everything in america, give me that smartphone here, ok? when my kids were about 10 or 11, they said, what is that box over there? that is where superman changes his clothes and mom and dad used to put coins in that thing. let's uberize the federal government. let's have some guts. to give you a good example, uber doing a great job? we all like uber. you realize in cities that politicians are lining up to snuff it out? we need to welcome innovation and change. [applause] mr. hannity: i want to talk about homeland security. we have people chopping off people's heads, burning them alive. they are saying convert or die, and it raises questions about the safety and security of every american. isis is the modern-day evil in our time. is this an ongoing war and we have the ability to work without boots on the ground? mr. kasich: no. just like we did to push saddam hussein out of kuwait. you get the arabs and egypt and jordan and saudi arabia, and bring our western allies, who are sitting there. we got to go in the air, on the ground, and destroy isis. mr. hannity: we're going in back on the ground? mr. kasich: win it, destroy them, settle it, and come home. let them do their job. mr. hannity: why are they not doing it on their own? mr. kasich: because they won't. i just will grow in deeper. the fbi heads the counterterrorism task force along with homeland security, state, and local officials, and that is good. they do a great job of disrupting. for everybody, if you see something, call somebody, please. we got this big fight going on between apple and our intelligence community. if i were president, i would take apple and the intelligence community, lock them in the room, and say you are not coming out until you figure it out, and when you will not talk to the press, and we will not put on the front page of the paper, we will just make sure we are secure. [applause] i might put hannity in the room there with them. mr. hannity: what i would like to see, we all watched ramadi, and it is now in the hands of isis, because just like vietnam, the way we politicize a war the way this president has, our sons and daughters died there, and i worry that i think we have got to advance and develop a technology where we do not have to send men and women over to fight and win wars. are we on the verge of cutting-edge technology that will allow us to fight wars without going door to door to door and dealing with -- mr. kasich: you're right about that, because technology can play a good role, but there's not going to be a substitute for people at least in our lifetime having to be on the battlefield. i served in defense for 18 years, and rumsfeld called me and after 9/11, and i helped out there. i have to tell you the reality of it, and i think people are prepared for this because we looked the other way. no negotiation with isis. they hate our existence. the key is to not be a nation builder and do not think you can convert these people to our way of life. it is not going to happen. mr. hannity: are we fighting wars too politically correct? donald trump wants to bomb the living -- out of them. if america is too concerned -- we care about human life, we are pro life, but are we overly concerned about collateral damage to the point where we have tied our hands? mr. kasich: you do not fool around with it, and unfortunately, you cannot win this from the air. [applause] you have to take ground. it is the way has to be. mr. hannity: we got to wrap up. mr. kasich: the united states should never get involved in a civil war. we also really fouled up in libya. when you think about hillary's time as secretary, the whole world -- the whole world started doubting america. now she wants to be that commander in chief. give me a break. it is an absurd consideration. mr. hannity: do you think she will survive what is going on with the fbi and all the news -- state's evidence was just turned in, that the guy who built the server was offered the fifth. do you think she is in legal trouble? mr. kasich: i would not like to be in her position. mr. hannity: i would not want to be married to bill either. governor kasich, there are some really hot chicks over there. mr. kasich: i just wondered if hannity had lost his mind. i know your wife. i will have to give her a call, if she just gets part of this. mr. hannity: you have done a good job when you were on house budget committee. what was your deficit when you took over in ohio? mr. kasich: 20% in the whole of our operating budget. a deficit of $8 billion. we created over 400,000 jobs, cut taxes more than anybody in the country. and we killed the death tax. we still have not made a lot of progress. [applause] mr. hannity: republican governors have governed conservatively. if washington republicans could learn something, it would be good for our country and help these kids that we care about. give it up for governor john kasich. [applause] ♪ >> we will route to the white house covert of the john kasich campaign on sunday when the candidate holds a rally in his home state of ohio. he will be joined by former california governor arnold schwarzenegger. watch our live coverage here on c-span. republican presidential candidate ted cruz appeared at the second day of the conservative legal action conference, being held just outside of washington dc. he talked about immigration policy, and the fight against isis. he is interviewed by sean hannity of fox news. this is 40 minutes. [applause] >> god bless cpac. skippingonald trump is cpac. i think someone told him megyn kelly was going to be here. or even worse, he was told conservatives would be here. or libertarians. or young people. the men and women here are a grassroots army. as dire as things are, people are waking up all over this country. [applause] and help is on the way. this election is going to be about three things. jobs, liberty, and security. let's start with jobs. you know, it is easy to talk about making america great again. you can even print that on a baseball cap. do you question is, understand the principles that made america great in the first place? [applause] economy -- the heart of the economy is not washington dc, it is a small businesses all over this country. [applause] you wanted to crush the economy, hammer small businesses like we have done the last seven years. anyone to unchaining the economy, lift the government off the back of the neck of small businesses. [applause] if i am elected president -- [applause] repeal every word obamacare. [applause] we will pass commonsense health care reform to make health insurance personal and affordable and keep government from getting it between us and our doctors. and we won't pass a simple flat tax -- and we will pass a simple flat tax. where every american can fill out their taxes on a postcard. that, we should of al abolish the irs. [applause] now i understand a lot of people in this country are a great. i get being angry. i angry too. for far too long they have lied to us. they make promises on the trail, and the go to washington and don't do what they say. no issue captures that better than immigration. immigration is a law enforcement matter, but at its heart is an economic matter. you take away millions of jobs from u.s. citizens from illegal immigrants, and you drive down wages for everybody. now, in a republican primary everybody says they oppose illegal immigration. the question to ask, was in 2013, when the battle over the gang of eight amnesty bill was being waged, where did you stand? many,u stand as far too with barack obama, the democrats pushing amnesty on millions of americans? or did you stand him as i was out to stand with millions of americans saying we will not have amnesty? [applause] and you know, i am told that it donald trump talks a fair amount about immigration. there is a natural question to ask. during the gain of eight battle, where was donald? sadly worse than nowhere. he was funding the gang of a. to five ofr $50,000 the eight members of the gain of eight. night, on stage for he promised all of us to be .lexible these it over and over how flexible he was. theible is code word for gets ready to stick it to you. have you noticed every time there flexible, it benefits the giant corporations, benefits wall street from benefits the special interests, and working men and women of this country get left in the cold? [applause] here is what we're going to do. , we are passing a flat tax, we are pulling back the federal regulators can we are stopping amnesty. we are securing the borders. millions and millions of high-paying jobs, young people coming out of school, getting five job offers. it will be mourning in america. -- morning in america. [applause] the second critical issue in this election is freedom. us, justice scalia's passing just two weeks ago underscored the stakes of this election. i was blessed to know justice scalia personally for 20 years. justice scalia was a lion of the law, and he ferociously contacted the bill of rights for all of us. [applause] his passing underscores that this election is not about one branch of government, it is about two. we are one liberal justice away from the supreme court ruling that government can take our religious liberty away force everyone of us to violate our faith on penalty of prison. we are one liberal justice away from the supreme court ordering 10 commandments monuments torn down all over this country. we are one liberal justice away from the supreme court erasing the second amendment from the bill of rights. we are one liberal justice away from the supreme court ordering veterans memorials torn down if they have any religious symbols torn down all over this country. we are one justice away from the supreme court making us subject to the world court and united nations and international law and giving away u.s. sovereignty. in the debate last week, there was a moment of clarity on this issue. there was a question about religious liberty and the supreme court. donald trump turned to me and said, ted, i've known a lot more politicians in my life than you have. now, in that he is surely correct. he has been supporting liberal, democratic politicians for four decades. but he said, ted, when it comes to the supreme court, you got to be prepared to compromise. you got to be willing to cut a deal with the democrats. let me be very clear to every man and woman here at cpac. i will not compromise away your religious liberty. [cheering] [applause] i will not compromise away your second amendment right to keep and bear arms. [applause] because if any president does what donald is promising to do, cut a deal with harry reid and chuck schumer to agree on justice scalia's replacement, then we know that replacement will be a left wing judicial activist who will strip away our rights. i give you my solemn commitment that every justice i put on the supreme court will be a principled constitutionalist, faithful to the law, who will vigorously protect the bill of rights for each and every one of us. [applause] the third key issue, this election is about security. for seven years america has abandoned our friends and allies and has shown weakness and appeasement to our enemies. the world is much more dangerous because of it. once again, in the debate last week there was a moment of clarity in this choice. donald trump told us he will be neutral between israel and the palestinians. let me be very clear. as president i have no intention of being neutral. america will stand unapologetically with the nation of israel. [applause] >> and if you cannot tell the difference between terrorists who walk into shopping malls with dynamite strapped around their chests to blow up women and children and the soldiers protecting innocence, if you buy into the media and the left wing's narrative of moral equivalency, then that draws into question the judgment any individual would have as commander in chief. [applause] over the last seven years we've seen the united states military weakened. we've seen our readiness degraded. we've seen morale plummet. now, america has seen this happen before. we've seen a left wing democratic president weaken the military as jimmy carter did and in 1981 ronald reagan came into the white house. [applause] what did reagan do? he cut taxes. he passed regulatory reform. the economy took off. millions of small businesses grew. trillions of dollars of government revenue. he used that revenue to rebuild the military and we bankrupted the soviet union and won the cold war. [applause] i intend to do the exact same thing with radical islamic terrorism. we are going to unleash incredible economic growth and rebuild the military so it remains the world's mightiest fighting force. we are going to rebuild the military so it remains the world's mightiest fighting force. no longer will the military be governed by political correctness. no longer will it be a top priority of the pentagon to provide gluten free m.r.e.'s. instead, we will have a commander-in-chief who says to the world we will defeat radical islamic terrorism. we'll have a president willing to utter the words "radical islamic terrorists." [applause]

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