What we need is serious people to talk about this issue in a serious way that is going to address the challenge. And let me just let her answer the question, was it a mistake for the president of the United States to take the option of inserting u. S. Combat Ground Troops off the table . Its not a mistake to take it off the table right now. And general dempsey said just within the last two weeks that he doesnt recommend putting Ground Troops into the middle east right now. And i dont think the American People want to see tens of thousands of american troops back in the middle east. But if we are going to authorize the use of military force in the middle east, we need to have the president come to congress and make that request. And we need to have that debate. We owe it to the people of this country and we owe it to our fighting force, our military men and women. All right, go ahead. Well, with respect to the senator, she still hasnt answered your question. She didnt answer in the last debate, as well. And thats part of the problem. Shes so tied in with president obama and his failed policies on this issue. The question was, would you agree with the president to send Ground Troops or not . The bottom line is, hes already taken it off the table. Hes taken the greatest fighting force off the table. And we have an opportunity theres no one talking, by the way, about occupying forces. Were talking about a transitional force, as weve done in other countries. Were not occupiers. We were there to assist the Iraqi Government to make sure that what happened wouldnt happen. And its that type of lack of leadership well, were there that our allies where our allies the Iraqi Government. Where our allies dont trust us right now. And were assisting the kurds. Senator, senator with respect, the kurds are hanging on for dear life. Theyre in trouble, the Iraqi Government is in trouble. Isis is the size of new england right now and you and the president have taken Ground Troops off the table, which is the worst thing you can do when you have the greatest fighting force in the world. You take them off the table. And thats part of the problem. Youre so supportive of this president , you cant even say if general dempsey and others say we need Ground Troops, you wont even say right now that yes, we have to do it. Their goal is to put a flag in the white house. Our goal is to make sure it doesnt happen. And right now because of the and as you know if you dont believe me, secretary panetta said he advocated for it, and the president rejected each and every opportunity to make sure we could have a transition force that was a mistake. But not for that effort, we would not be in this position. Well, ive called on the president to come to congress to ask for an authorization for the use of military force so we can have this debate. Ive said if hes not willing to do that, im already working with the chairman of the Foreign Relations committee to do that. But whats not responsible is for politicians to repeat isis talking points like they are planning to plant a flag on the front steps of the white house. Whats important here is that we address this threat. Were doing that by building an international coalition, by supporting the fighters in iraq and the kurdish fighters who have a lot at stake because its their country. We should be supporting them. We should be going after the financing, but im not ready to say we need to send troops in today. All right, senator shaheen, senator brown, i want both of you to stand by. We have a lot more coming up, many more questions including president s obamas role in this senate race here in New Hampshire. Do both candidates have some explaining to do about voting with president obama . Well be right back. Welcome back to debate night. Were in concord, New Hampshire, with the Senate Candidates on one of the closest and most important races this Midterm Election year. Lets get right back for the questions. Senator brown seems to be a few different wings of the republican party, the john mccain republicans, when it comes to Foreign Policy very often anxious, willing to go ahead and intervene internationally. On the other hand, the rand paul republicans were much more reluctant to intervene internationally. Youve campaigned with both of these senators. Whose Foreign Policy are you more closely aligned with, john mccain or rand paul . I think that both play a valuable role in our party, and i respect both of them greatly. Thats the beauty of being an independent republican like i am. I was the most bipartisan senator in the United States senate, unlike senator shaheen, who is voting with the president s policies 99 of the time. So as an independent republican, i can work within my party and still find common ground. Theres not a one size fits all approach, and i will continue to listen, learn, do my own research and make my own decision. Thats what it means to be an independent. Are you with rand paul when he says he would like to eliminate all foreign aid and eventually even u. S. Aid to israel . No, of course not. Israel is our greatest ally. Look what happened this summer with hamas lobbing rockets and missiles at it. Ive been there. The stress that theyre under right now is unbearable, but i do think that we have an opportunity and an affirmative obligation to do that review of each and every dollar we give other countries. I believe there is an affirmative obligation to keep our citizens in our embassy safe. The fact that what we had happen in benghazi under the Obama Administration right now was unconscionable. I felt that there is an affirmative obligation with those dollars that we give that government to make sure that those types of things dont happen. Senator shaheen, youve voted with president obama 99 of the time, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Quarterly. So heres a question to you. How is a vote for you not a vote for president obama and his policies . You know, my opponent talks a lot about that survey that hes always quoting. In fact, hes built his whole campaign on that. But the fact is, i work and i vote for New Hampshire. Thats what ive always done. If you look at that survey and weve got it posted on our website so you can take a look at it, im proud of my record, and take a look at the votes that are in that survey. One of those votes is the defense bill. Well, im on the Armed Services committee. I worked hard on that defense bill. Its got provisions in it that help our national guard, that help the Portsmouth Naval shipyard, that help the 157th air refueling wing down at pease. I voted for that. Not to because the president supported it, but because its good for New Hampshire. Another one of those votes in that survey is the fair pay act. I sponsored the fair pay act. It would provide equal pay for equal work for women. My opponent voted against that. Not once, but twice. Now, i work for New Hampshire, i put New Hampshire first, thats what ive done my whole life, thats what i want to continue to do as your senator. You want to respond . Yes, yes, well thank you very much. The president s not up for reelection, but his policies are. He said that. And senator shaheen is his number one foot soldier. So if you want to make sure that harry reids not the majority leader, we can take over the senate and make sure that that doesnt happen. That being said, she referenced two particular items that shes working for New Hampshire. Well, with respect, senator, you have a zero rating with the National Federation of independent businesses. Thats not working for New Hampshire businesses. With regard to the fair pay act that youve referenced many times, senator ayotte and i both voted against that bill, and with respect once again, i pay women in my office 1. 21 for every dollar a man makes, while you pay 95 cents for every dollar a man makes. I not only believe it, i live it. Go ahead and respond. Well, my opponents quoting a right wing survey that doesnt really even understand what the equal pay act does, but the fact is he talks about the National Federation of independent businesses. Well, what my opponent has done in washington, he comes here to New Hampshire and he says he supports Small Businesses, but look at his record in washington. Because what he supported in washington were the corporate special interests, big oil, giving 19 billion to the big banks, and outsourcing american jobs. Well, we dont need to import a candidate whos going to outsource our jobs. With further respect, ive been fighting for Small Businesses forever. I have an a rating with the National Federation of independent business and an a rating with the chamber of commerce. Those are the two premier groups that rate us. We have ratings. And in addition to her saying that she doesnt vote with the present 99 of the time, i believe it was yesterday the Congressional Quarterly also came out with a new survey saying that when the president lets us know what hes feeling, which is rare but he does do it, 118 times he did it this last session. Senator shaheen was with him 116 of those times. So even though she was being criticized for voting with the president 99 of the time, she continued to support him over and over and over again. And its like we have two senators here, president obama is not only president , hes actually acting like the senator of New Hampshire. Ok, im going to give you a quick chance to respond, then i want to move on. Well, again, theres a big difference between my opponent and me, because i support New HampshireSmall Businesses, ive done that as governor, now in the senate. I voted for the Small Business jobs act to help our Small Business. My opponent voted against it. I voted to provide tax cuts for over 30,000 New Hampshire businesses. My opponent voted against it. I voted for the travel promotion act to help our Tourism Industry so that we could attract visitors from outside the United States. My opponent voted against it. He comes to New Hampshire and he says hes for Small Business, but look at his record in washington. With further respect, facts are stubborn things. I have an a rating with not only the nfib, but the chamber. But its a kochfunded organization the chamber of commerce with respect kochbrothersfunded organization i was with a business yesterday, its been in the family for generations. Theyve been a member of the nfib for 50 years and theyre just trying to make a living but because of the policies pushed forth by president obama and you on energy being the deciding vote on obamacare with the business mandate coming in after the election, you have a zero rating. Im not quite sure how folks get a zero rating and then say they are out fighting for Small Businesses. It just doesnt add up. All right, well, lets move on because we have a good question for senator brown. Now, youve criticized senator shaheen for voting with president obama 99 of the time, but we went back to the Congressional Quarterly analysis, and your last year in the United States senate as a republican senator for massachusetts, cq, the Congressional Quarterly says you voted with president obama 78 of the time. How do you explain that . Well, when the president does something right, ill support him, when he doesnt do something right i will make sure i let him know that. That is a huge difference to be an independent senator. I voted with the my party and the other side about 50 in my entire career. That being said, as an independent senator, i can do that. So when we Work Together with the president on an Insider Trading bill, my bill worked forward, we got it done. I worked with democrats to bring them over. And we were at the signing ceremony, the hire a hero veterans bill, the ability to give veterans jobs and employers the ability to actually get a little bit of a tax credit. The Arlington Cemetery bill worked with a democrat to make sure our heroes were buried properly. One person in one grave, three people in another grave, body parts in a mulch pile. I think senator shaheen even voted for that. We were able to get it done. So there are times, certainly, because if you want gridlock, then send senator shaheen down there. If you want someone whos an independent problem solver, has a history of working with both sides and has also been named, wolf, as you can also reference, as the most bipartisan senator in the united state senate, then im your guy. You want to respond. Yes. My opponent again talks a lot about that survey, but what he wont tell you is why the Koch Brothers are spending 2. 6 million in New Hampshire to support his campaign. I dont think its because they think hes going to go down to washington and support Small Businesses. I think its because they know hes going to go to washington, hes going to continue to support subsidies to the big Oil Companies. The five Biggest Oil Companies last year made over 90 billion and he wants to give them over 20 billion in subsidies. I dont think thats good for New Hampshire. Wolf, once again shes distorting a bill that not only senator ayotte voted against, but democrats voted against. And if you want to talk about money, were both raising money the same way. She has her groups. We have our groups. Theyre doing whatever they want. Im scott brown and i approve that message. Those are my messages. I have no control over any other messages. Thats being said, we have an opportunity because the people of New Hampshire are smarter. Theyre very sophisticated being the first in the country president ial. They understand that senator shaheen has not held town halls. They understand that when she went to washington, she changed, and shes not focusing on Small Business. She has a zero rating. With respect, i have been down there fighting for Small Businesses. Thats why i have an a rating with the National Federation, and also the United States chamber of commerce. Quick response . Well, again, the National Federation of independent businesses has some members here, and i appreciate what those members do, but the fact is, like his support in so many other ways in this campaign, they are funded by the Koch Brothers. We need somebody in washington whos going to really support our Small Businesses. Thats what ive done my whole career. Thats what ill continue to do. Senator shaheen, former president bill clinton came here to campaign with you. Hillary clinton is coming next weekend to campaign with you. Elizabeth warren, shell also be joining you on the campaign trail. Heres the question. Why dont you want president obama to come to New Hampshire and campaign with you . Well, i never said i didnt want president obama to come and campaign. The fact is hes busy in washington. Hes dealing with the ebola threat. Hes dealing with the threat from isis. I think hes exactly where he needs to be. But again, the fact is that there are big differences in this race between my opponent and me, and its not just about the president. He would like to be running against the president in New Hampshire because he doesnt want to talk about the issues that are important to New Hampshire. Whos going to go to washington and support our middleclass families here . Whos going to support for affordable Student Loans so our young people arent facing years of debt because of the Student Loans theyve taken out . Whos going to fight to make sure that we dont outsource our jobs . Because right now New Hampshire has lost more jobs to china than any other state in the country. Thats what ive done my whole career. Thats what i will continue to do. And what my opponent did when he represented massachusetts in washington was to support the corp