Both parties. It is a futile effort to continue to call for the repeal of obamacare. That is not realistic. The debate and actually moved the ball backward on getting reform and places we need. I do not like tying the provision of Health Insurance to employment. I think that is a mistake. They cut and 40 hours to not have to meet the mandate. Another thing hits utah unusually hard, the tax on sales of medical devices. We have the medical devices industry in utah. Im upset that harry reid would refute that amendment to that provision out of tax reform legislation. I would like to see that repealed. There are some things that we , that parents can keep their children on their insurance policies, preexisting conditions. Ite of these solutions, seems obvious. Lets keep the parts we like and work at what we dont like on a bipartisan basis and not have it polarized dialogue. Criticism ofrpest the Affordable Care act . The Affordable Care act is not affordable. It is not sustainable. That is the biggest problem i have with it. It was meant to fit as many people on insurance as possible. We have fewer people insured today than we did before. From ally got an email lady who got kicked off of her insurance and had to be forced onto the exchange. She was elated to find out her cause were going to be 134 a month. Then was dismayed when her deductible was 6,000. She would not be able to afford to go to the doctor. We do need to afford we knew we do need to repeal obamacare. But we need to know we are going to replace it with. My plan improves Patient Experience and outcomes. We need to make sure that we allow people to buy insurance across state lines. We want to remove the berlin and for decisionmaking in the hands of patients and doctors. We need broad freemarket reform to health care. Able to align the incentives with the outcome. If we are able to do all of these things, it will give people access to health care. Opportunity for rebuttal . We need to roll up our sleeves and go to work on a bipartisan basis. We had the polarization that resulted from a shutdown into any discussion of reforming it. It is lamentable. There are many provisions we need to fix. I talked to my wife about this all the time. There are mandates on outcomes rather than processes. I believe strongly that we can leave it up to medicine to govern itself if we set those goals. We need to address affordability. Your opportunity . I agree we need to remove the medical devices tax. It is killing jobs. I want to address this notion of extremist. Of debt, the hijacking of 20 of our economy through obamacare without bipartisan support. Extreme is ignoring the rising cost of to wish in an attacking your opponent for trying to find solutions. To one of the you more beautiful corners of the fourth Congressional District. Carlquestion comes from who lives in spring city. He says the narrows project in central utah is important to the residence of the county. Please tell me what your position is on the narrows project. , what you would do in congress to advance or kill the project. I can tell you why it is such a long explanation. They have been fighting this for 90 years. It is a long time to fight for this project. Have ait sad that you city that cannot have water for farming. They are actually rationing out there water. I find it disheartening. This project was held up in congress for the past few years and it started up again and they are having problems with the environment process. I think we need to do everything we can to support these projects and understand that water and transportation is a lifeline to any city. If you do not have it you cannot drive and continue to grow. I support the project. Only my going to help get that project through im going to do everything i can to expedite that project. Doug collins. A beautiful corner of the district. I have visited several times. I support the project. It is time to get that water turned around. This is a function of congress is not think the field. Wasll mention my father heavily involved in the utah water project. Love the details i am wellsuited to get into that and help the stakeholders come together and work on a solution. Even things we couldnt disagree on. To fixroken and i want it. It is in my nature to bring different people together. , the washington board whererness they brought stakeholders together, got a sensible , so i think that we it puts the interest of utah hardworking Families First and im going to go to work on. Hose solutions that we need wexler may exercise my prerogative and give you each one minute. In my district it is critical infrastructure. But if it is built in your state it is pork politics. How do you differentiate between the proper appropriation of federal dollars to benefit your district as opposed to weighing ratio andnd benefit other locales. I can draw directly from my experience. In put on aed priority level many projects. Funds were coming back from our taxpayer dollars and those funds projectng to a specific that the federal government wanted to put in. The same project that would cost us 260,000 cost over 1 million for the federal government to put in the project. What i would like as a former mayor and as i speak to mayors across the district, they want to release the handcuffs. It is the government stopping them from doing. Stopping them from addressing the issues that their constituents want. As i go to the district they have all specific issues. That is something i want to make sure i removed. The public good and investing too much . It is part of the role of a congressman to look after his or her district three i favor into the investment in tracks extension. I support that. I will go to work on issues that will invest in business and growth in my district. You need to have the punch is notic interest at heart and engage in things that are wasteful. Sometimes this is a simple congressional dysfunction where we see congress has to punt its functions because congress on theextricate itself decision. Sometimes that make sense to do that. I would rather see members of congress be responsible if their best judgment is not adequate for the district. If a Congress Member cannot explain it to the district. There is a larger public duty to take into account. Part of it is helping your district with investments in the future. , the realml question of National Security and surveillance. The question comes in several parts. To begin with, what is your view on the National Security agency surveillance activity . Would you support a law that prohibits mobile phone manufacturers from producing phones that cannot be easily monitored by nsa surveillance programs . Government be able to listen in . As an attorney i appreciate the liberties enshrined in the constitution. I have litigated many of them. I think the nsa should be entitled to survey citizens if they get a warrant. I support that. I dont know that making a cell phone that could never be surveyed would be consistent with the need for government if a proper warrant is obtained to to go after cell phones. I dont think i would support that legislation. Theour opportunity on government conducting surveillance. I cannot support it. I do believe that you are willing, one of our forefathers mentioned it, if youre willing to give up freedom in the name of security you are worthy of neither. The things that makes this country great is the ability for people to make decisions, to have their privacy. Inhout the government coming and listening in on their conversations. Privacy is incredibly important. If there is clear evidence that there is someone threatening the life of americans, it is important for us to be proactive. Ofn it comes to privacy every individual we need to make sure we protect that. I am going to protect those individual rights and every other right that is enshrined in the constitution. Are questioner had a distinct followup. Im going to give you 30 seconds. Do you consider Edward Snowden a hero or trader traitor . Why do you think that . He release classified information to the International Surveillance programs involving. He United States mr. Owens . To the accounts i have read he has committed crimes dream he has released government secrets to the public. I understand it has endangered particular individual. I dont want to use harsh terms but he sounds like the accusation that he has committed crimes against the country. On the opinion highprofile case . One of the things that is unfortunate Many Americans do not have trust in the government. The trust in the administration is not there. It is hard to differentiate what information we are given is true and which isnt true. It is hardly you not have a transparent government. I would say that i certainly ape if this person is just weeblower he is not would be able to protect his rights and be able to bring him back home. I hope that we would be able to protect his individual rights. As frequently happens, we have fallen into a gray area. Not enough time for another question but perhaps enough to extend your closing comments. Note, imn just one 92nd to extend you an u opportunity. Thank you. Thank you for tuning in tonight and getting informed about the election. It has been a privilege to go out on the campaign trail and get acquainted by so many fine people and hear about their aspirations and hopes for the future of our state and country great we havent had inherited a great country. Our state and country. We have inherited a great country. I want to go to work to fix issues. I want to end the gridlock in washington. I will work with both parties to get things done. I think we have got to get Congress Working again in a way that works for all of us, commonsense bipartisan solutions. You tony to representative who can go to washington and put utah first. Best that each party has, and take those ideas in a metarepair i find them to take those ideas no matter where i find them. We have to have a sense of humility. Take in account different viewpoints and find Common Sense Solutions and bridge gaps between those who have different viewpoints that are trying to address issues hitting us every day like the Social Security reform, obama care, immigration. I hope as an independent voice i be suited to find those solutions and Work Together to change the attitude in congress. Im not interested into playing by the rules. I will be a strong and independent voice for utah. Our final opportunity. Ando i believe that we have obligation to care for those who cannot care for themselves . I do. Luckily that we have the resources a i believe that we need federal government to force us to do what we already know we should do it is the day we are not deserving of the title americans. This is a great country conceived in liberty and american exceptionalism were people all over the world are willing to risk their lives to come to. We have an opportunity to do something area special here in the state to represent utahs voice and bring people along with us. I am not going to washington to be one of 435. Im going to washington to make sure i represent your values. I amis not about who running against. This is about what we are running for. We are running for our childrens way of life. We are running for freedom. We are running for our state. We are running for the ability to make decisions in our home. I am not asking you to trust washington. Im going to washington to tell them to trust you again. I believe this is a great state we can be a great example in this stage. I am asking for your support in representing our values. Im asking for your vote on november 4. God bless you, god bless utah, god bless our independent United States of america. Your timek you for this evening. Special appreciation to the university of utah. Since this is the final debate it is appropriate to thank all the Media Partners and television for printing support to these debates print it is a long list of people behind the scenes that labored to bring these debates, pacific lead the howell, theytt have all played important roles. The utah that they commission reminds you election day is tuesday, november 4. Good evening. Be part of cspan 2014 coverage. Follow us on twitter. Like us on facebook. Get debate schedules, video clips, debate previews from politics seems. You canu 117 insulate share your reactions to what the candidates are saying. The battle for control of congress, stay in touch and engaged by following us on twitter at cspan and letting us on facebook. Hampshire Jeanne Shaheen is facing scott brown. He served as a u. S. Senator in massachusetts until he lost reelection in 2012. He is running in new hampshire. We will bring you the latest debate tomorrow. Merkley isjeff running against monica webb being. You can watch that debate at 9 00 eastern. Next, the Treasury Department david cullen talks about defunding isis. Stephen harper addresses the gun attack on auto with parliament. In iowas fourth Congressional District steve king debates jim our. On the next washington journal we will talk about civil rights, the criminal justice system, and the police. And the new mortgage lending rules and the increasing lending with david stevens. Well be taking your calls, Facebook Comments and tweets. Like every morning at 7 00 eastern. The Treasury Departments david colonizes the best funded terrorist organization he has ever seen. Carnegieat the endowment for international peace. Good morning. I am marwan muasher, director of the middle east program. I want to welcome you to carnegie and thank you for joining us for this timely discussion on u. S. Efforts to disrupt the Financial Network that support Islamic State of iraq and the levant, what is called isis. I see there is enough interest in this room for this issue. Overflow. Public attention has focused on the military efforts to degrade isis, there is another effort being led by the Treasury Department, which is focused on shutting down the flow of money to isis from outside sources and through Smuggling Networks. It has been estimated that isis country produces over 50,000 barrels of oil for day, which can provide between one and 2 million per day of revenue. This is in addition to the funds the group collects from activities such as extortion, kidnapping, and illegal surcharges. Isis is considered the wealthiest terrorist organization. To discuss the strategy to try to cut off these funds, we are honored to have david cohen with us today. He is the undersecretary for terrorism and Financial Intelligence at the Treasury Department where he leads the department in enforcing, regulatory and intelligence functions aimed at identifying and disrupting Financial Support to International Terrorist organizations and other illicit actors posing a threat to National Security. He will discuss the terrorist financing challenge posed by isis and the measures the Treasury Department and other agencies are taking to a dress this thread. Following his remark we will open the floor to questions from the audience. For those who want to join the conversation online, we will be live tweeting this event using the disruptingisis, one word. Please join me in welcoming treasury undersecretary david cohen. [applause] good morning and thank you for that kind introduction and to the endowment for hosting here today. It is an honor to have the opportunity to lend my voice to the ongoing dialogue fostered by carnegie and the middle east studies program. Before i begin my remarks, i would note our sympathy and prayers with the people of canada. We are still working on gathering all of the information about the attacks yesterday and are working with our canadian counterparts. This is a tragic reminder of the reminder to remain vigilant in the face of terror. Our friends in ottawa will have whatever support they need from our National Security teams in the United States. I come this morning to discuss the endemic problem of violence extremism. The terrorist group known as Islamic State of iraq and the levant. I will describe the u. S. And International Efforts my team is leading to undermine their financial strength as part of a strategy to disrupt and defeat isil. Lindy review why we are so focused on isil. They have slaughtered thousands of innocent people who did not subscribe to their theology. They have persecuted religious they have brutally murdered aid workers and journalists who travel to syria just to bring a small measure of relief to the people or to tell their story. The vast majority of their victims are muslims. Isil threatens core u. S. Interests and american facilities in iraq and our regional allies including turkey and lebanon, who are already strained by the ripple effects in syria. It is attracting so many foreign fighters and securing a safe haven, isis could pose a direct threat to citizens of the United States and our allies outside the middle east. A terrorist organization with a stated desire to kill innocent people abroad must be confronted. That is why the International Community has come together to stop this threat. The president has cap a special envoy with a broad coalition, 60 partners strong from the middle east to europe, behind a strategy to degrade isis capabilities and ultimately defeat it. Isil has grabbed the world attention for its ambitions and astounding tally, but also for another reasoning, it substantial wealth. Their primary funding tactic