let me say this. we have been more than any previous government to make sure that companies pay their taxes. but we inherited a situation under labour where foreigners were not paying stamp duty where companies were leaving britain where we were giving knighthood to bankers that it failed britain. all of that has changed. >> thank you, mr. speaker. this week is the anniversary of -- ripped up the railroad line in my constituents but i think the prime minister and network rail. can he confirm his ongoing commitment to the southwest rail and a future funding for it? >> first of all that me join my honorable friend in paying tribute to the orange army that did such a fantastic job in getting that line a contract in such a short period of time. as she knows we've also committed a further 30 million towards resilience and protection this year but more importantly we are working with the southwest peninsula braille task force to bring together all the strategic and local task for -- transport schemes. >> you have been watching prime minister's questions from the british house of commons. watch any time at c-span.org, where you can find video of past prime ministers questions. coming up, jeb bush talks about the economy and other issues. and then dr. joe stein of the green party. -- dr. jill stein of the green party. and later, q&a. >> keep track of the republican led congress and follow its new members. new congress, best access on c-span c-span 2, c-span radio and c-span.org. >> jeb bush detailed his economic plan on wednesday in a speech to the detroit economic club, but did not formally announce running for president in 2016. after his remarks, he took questions. this is about 45 minutes. the alignment of these leadership qualities over multiple sectors has resulted in a paradigm shift of what we as michiganders believe is possible. our nation has seen the paradigm shifts before and in 1980 our nation ushered in an era with the election of ronald reagan and george h.w. bush. the power of clear and strong principled leadership infused with good well and a sense of -- goodwill and a sense of humor changed our nation. across the country other states have experience a type of rebirth that we are now seeing in michigan. one of those states that charted a new course was the state of florida, the nation's third-largest. florida's economic powerhouse status was not a foregone conclusion. building blocks were not set in place until our speaker that we are fortunate enough to have here today, jeb bush, arrived. his time as the 43rd governor of the state of florida was a time of dramatic change. education moved to the top of the agenda with corresponding increases in student achievement. the business environment was reformed along with the size and scope of government to unleash a torrent of investment, innovation, and job creation. he was the first of reform minded governor's that have -- governors that have swept across the nation and has become the template for other governors to follow. since leaving the governor's office after two terms and returning to the private sector, jeb bush has maintained his commitment to the important public issues of our time. notably fixing our nation's immigration system and reforming how we deliver all the education to the next generation of leaders. his views have been called conservative, they have been called mainstream. they have been called bold and they have been called common sense. for those of us who have been watching jeb bush for well over a decade now, call them kids -- you can call him his because what he says is what he means and he is not tailoring his remarks for the audience of the day. as you likely know governor bush has had some close family members who have also been elected to high public office. without further delay, please welcome the father of george p bush, the texas land commissioner, the honorable jeb bush. ♪ gov. bush: thank you. when i heard he was bringing up family members, i was going to use that line. that he stole it. i am very proud of my son who got the highest vote total force -- total vote total of the candidate running for statewide office in texas. george is going to do a great job, but i am also pretty proud of 41 and 43. i love them very much. i know that is hard for the political world to accept. [applause] but it's pretty easy for me to love them. i love them unconditionally. now that therapists can opine -- now the pit -- now the therapists can opine about that. i'm delighted to be here because you are part of a great story, the revival of the city that means so much to all americans. these past few years when confronted with great challenges, you've seized the opportunity to reform the city you love. you've begun to repair the damage done by decades of mismanagement and empty promises. i want to congratulate governor rick snyder for his leadership. i want to acknowledge secretary of state ruth johnson and general shooting for being here. and mayor mike duggan for his determination to serve the city of his birth, but i also want to recognize as well the hard work of kevyn orr, who i'm proud to say is a son of florida. and finally, i want to recognize all those who involved in making really difficult and often painful decisions. look, your work is not complete, but your efforts have captured the attention of our nation because across the united states, we are asking ourselves the same questions. how do we recapture prosperity and opportunity that once defined cities like detroit? how do we restore america's faith and the moral promise of our great nation that any child born today can reach further than their parents? this is a really urgent issue. far too many americans live on the edge of economic ruin. and many more feel like they're stuck in place, working longer and harder, even as they are losing ground. tens of millions of americans no longer see a clear path to rise above their challenges. something is holding them back. not a lack of ambition, not a lack of hope, not because they are lazy or see themselves as victims. something else. something is an artificial weight onto their shoulders. today and in the coming weeks i will address this critical issue and i will offer a new vision, a plan of action that is different from what we've been hearing in washington, d.c. it's a vision rooted in conservative principles, and tethered to our shared belief in opportunity and the unknown possibilities of a nation given the freedom to act, to create, to dream and to rise. we see that belief every day in action, in the oil and gas fields once given up for dry we now assuring america's energy security. in hospitals, we are extending life and beating back once untreatable diseases. in charter schools, we are connecting students to their incredible potential. in labs and hacker spaces, invention comes from every corner of society. and the world still comes to america to learn how to create and to innovate. people know this country can be more than it is today, and that each one of us can and must be part of it. but they also know this as well. we have a lot of work to do. today, americans across the country are frustrated. they see only a small portion of the population writing the -- population wririding the economy's up escalator. it's true enough we've seen recent good games with welcome news for the economy but it is very little and it has come very late. six years after the recession ended, median incomes are down households are on average for common millions of people have given up looking for work altogether. roughly two out of three american households live paycheck to paycheck. any unexpected expense can push them into financial ruin. we have a record number of americans on food stamps and living in poverty. the recovery has been everywhere but in the family paychecks. the american dream has become a barrage -- a mirage for far too many. so the central question we face here in detroit and across america is this -- can we restore that dream, that moral promise that each generation can do better? if we can't answer that question, look, no tax, no welfare program will save our system for our way of life. because america's moral promise isn't broken when someone is wealthy. it's broken when achieving success is far beyond our imagination. america is a place where as lincoln dreamed, any person, quote, "could look forward and hope to be hired, be hired labor this year, and the next work for himself, and finally to hire men to work for him," unquote. america, though discouraged, has not given up on the dream of lincoln. the dream of lincoln is alive at 5:00 a.m. out a bus depot in a distant suburb or in an inner-city as workers get the jobs in hotels and restaurants in hospitals. the dream is alive in the college student driving an uber carpark time to graduate -- car part-time to graduate debt-free. lincoln stream is alive every day and that moment when people choose to buy a home start a business, enroll in school, or save for the future. if americans are working harder than ever, earning less than they once did, our government, our leaders should step up offer a plan, fix what's wrong, or they should step aside. let's ask how we got to this point and let's start in detroit. in a sense, the troubles of detroit are a net go of the troubles facing washington, d.c. decades of big government policy, heady politics impossible to meet pension promises, chronic mismanagement and broken services, combined with the massive loss of jobs in the auto industry drove tens of thousands of people from the city and this region. for example, detroit under the previous administration, or under a previous admission was so proud of shutting down businesses that have not paid or licenses and. they bragged about it in press releases. the city threatened nearly 900 businesses with closure and followed through on nearly 400 businesses literally shutting them down. many of these were small businesses run out of homes and ally face and rogers run by people who just wanted to take that first step up the economic ladder. one of those business owners derek little, had a simple way to describe his frustration. "i'm running a legit business. they could be doing something better." and while the city was shutting down people who were trying to build a business, it couldn't do its job correctly. the city was losing money writing parking tickets. i don't know how you can manage that. of course, on amtrak they lose money on the snack cart. they literally have a captive audience. it's an incredible feat, but a government inefficiency isn't just irritating, it's instructive. if the government can't collect parking fines or sell snacks are -- parking fines, how would government enable every system to move up in life? that's why i have launched the right to rise pac, as a way for people who don't want to wait for the government to deliver prosperity. they want to earn it themselves. government isn't the only issue here. there's far more at work. fixing government policy is the easiest problem to solve and it's the one that is most responsive to the demands of voters. so in getting involved in politics again because that's where the work has to begin. the opportunity gap is the defining issue of our time. more americans are stuck at their income levels than ever before. it's area are for people to go from the bottom rungs of the economy to the top, or even to the middle. this should alarm you. it has alarmed me. the problem starts when we fear the one thing that could help unlock the economic status quo the freedom to compete and work as a team to build great things. competition is messy, but it's essential. we have seen all the battles. the cab companies fight the web enabled car services. the restaurants fight against the food trucks. the brick-and-mortar retailers fight against the internet companies. look, i'm not here to take sides and i don't think government should either. but when government protects one business against another or tilts the field of competition there is a clear loser. anyone who wants to create something is the team to anyone who wants to innovate and shake things up, anyone who wants more choices and better service, and we know that in the end standing against the petition and -- standing against competition and dynamism is a losing battle. in 1955, 60 years ago, the fortune 500 list first appeared. of the companies on that list, fully 88% don't even exist today or have fallen away. today's fortune 500 will be replaced by new companies that are just starting today. this is hard for some people to accept. because entrenched interests don't like giving up what they have. that's why they fear small companies who have nothing to lose. you know the stories. the president of michigan savings bank imparted some wisdom to a young lawyer for a small startup company. the horse, the bank president said, is here to stay. but the automobile is only a fad. the small startup that lawyer represented was the ford motor company. we can laugh about it now because ford and the other innovators of detroit had the economic freedom to compete, and to prove the doubters wrong. our nation has always found such -- has always valued such economic freedom because, in economic freedom each citizen , has the power to propel themselves forward and upward. this really is not understood in washington, d.c. you can see why. it's a company town. the company is government. it's all they know. for several years now they have been recklessly degrading the value of work, the incentive to work and the reports of work. we have seen them cut the definition of a full-time job from 40 hours to 30 hours slashing the ability of the paycheck garners to make ends meet. we have seen them great welfare -- we have seen them create welfare programs and tax rules that punish people with lost benefits and higher taxes for moving up those first rungs of the economic ladder. we have seen them waive the rules that help so many people escape welfare. the progressive and liberal mindset believe that to every problem there is a washington, d.c. solution. but that instinct doesn't solve any problems. other than the problem of how to keep washington's regional economy well lubricated, and the cost is enormous. let's say you're a hard-working middle-class family. you work hard, pay your mortgage on time. as president obama likes to say, you play by the rules. but for president obama one of the rules is this. he reserves the right to change the rules. just last month he thought was a good idea to tax 529 college savings plans. remember, 529's are great to be -- were created to be tax free to save for college. so it's no surprise people hated the president's idea, and thankfully he dropped it. but it was instructed us a lesson. saving for college is the responsible thing to do but instead of embracing 529's the liberals moved to tax them. it's frustrating but it shows how they think. if you want to know how to act ask sharon delay. sharon found a recruiting company in westerville, ohio. here's what she said. it's as if the politicians and regulators in washington want me to fail. spend all their time thinking up new ways to ensure that i do. you either want me to be the engine of the economy or you don't. here's a message for sharing and millions like her. there is a better way. let's define this path first by four principles of the right to rise society. because once we do, the policies, the laws, and the way forward becomes a lot clearer. let's start with the first principle. when it comes to ensuring opportunity and a chance at success, the most important factor isn't government. it's a committed family. social science us across the ideological spectrum agree on this. you want to predict whether someone will graduate from school, go to college and move forward in life, you just have to find that one thing. where the raised in a loving household by two parents? if you didn't, you can overcome it, but it's really hard. if you did, you have a built-in advantage in life. the evidence is overwhelming. every child has a greater chance at opportunity when they're raised by loving, caring supportive parents and a committed family. this isn't the work of government but it's critical that government leaders recognize that and support it. a second principle, and this one is often overlooked, growth above all. a growing economy weather here in detroit or throughout this country is the difference between poverty and prosperity for millions. you want to close the opportunity gaps, grow the economy this is a principle that concentrates the mind. if they a law or a rule does contribute to growth, why do it? if the law subtracts from growth, why are we discussing it? and for what it's worth i don't think the united states should settle for anything less than 4% growth a year, which is about twice the current run rate estimated by most economists. at that rate the middle class can thrive again and in the coming months i intend to detail how we can get there with a mix of smart policies and reforms to tap our resources and capacity to innovate, whether it's in energy, manufacturing, health care, or technology. third, the right to rise depends on a government that makes it easier to work than not to work. that means fewer laws restricting the labor market and reducing the penalties that come with moving up from the lowest rungs of the ladder. fourth, to address the income gap, let's close the opportunity gap. that starts with doing everything we can to give every child from every neighborhood a great education. this won't happen overnight trust me, i know. but it takes every tool we have, every tool. accountability for teachers and school administrators, assessment for student learning, high, rigorous standards and school choice across the board. these are the key elements that make education work for more and more of our students. and we have the results to prove it. finally, let's embrace reform everywhere, especially in our government. let's start with the simple principle of who holds the power. i say give washington less and give states and local governments more. we make multibillion-dollar infrastructure decisions based on a labor law written in 1921. president obama proposes making rules on the internet using laws written in the 1930s. we regulate global airlines using laws written for railroads. our immigration laws were written half a century ago. government policy seems frozen incapable, and fearful of change. it's been the way to be honest -- it is in the way, to be honest with you, and we deserve better than this. if we don't transform ourselves to meet the new challenges and seize new opportunities, we know what happens next. look around this city -- it in its history there's a warning to all of us. a century ago, detroit was america's great innovation hub and the silicon valley of its age, it was bigger than chicago. it was the nation's wealthiest city in 1960. detroit with the world on wheels and created the jobs that lifted millions of americans into the middle class. this city was the arsenal of the arms needed to defend freedom across two oceans. detroit promised prosperity, and it delivered. sons of sharecroppers coming up from the south, south farmhands from the upper midwest immigrants who spoke polish, yiddish, greek, and arabic. their children settled. they prospered. some of their grandchildren are in this room today. and now you are rebuilding the city. i know you will be that great city again because americans by nature work and strive to succeed. it's already happening. in the madison building not far from here, new companies are rising. one of them irule, is led by two , young men, one born in russia, the other in israel. they left secure jobs as automotive engineers to start their business in 2009 at the very bottom of the recession. i imagine it wasn't a terribly popular decision with their spouses. here's what one of them said. we know detroit has its baggage , but we believe we are part of a solution. three years later, 21 employees, including the father, the cfo. must be nice to hire your dad. i thought about it but he's kind of retired. this activity happening downtown in an area once ignored. another detroit entrepreneur grew up in the suburbs. he rarely came downtown as a child but today he works here. he lives here. and here's what he said. we see this city for what it can be, not for what it was. that's how we should see everything, not just detroit but in all of america. i know some anything conservatives don't care about the cities, but they are wrong. we believe that every american in every community has the right to pursue happiness. they have the right to rise. so i say let's go where ideas will matter the most, where the failures of liberal government policies are most obvious. let's deliver real conservative success. and you know what will happen? we will create a whole lot of new conservatives. i know because i've lived it. in my city the schools were failing to opportunity with scarce were too many. simply being born in the wrong neighborhood meant the american dream was cruelly out of reach. i join with my friend, the longest-serving head of an urban league in the united states, and a courageous leader in the civil rights movement. we decided the right to rise is also a civil right. so we went to work to change education in florida. and boy, did we. we grade schools in florida to have true accountability so moms and dads know exactly where schools stand. we raised expectations and standards and we assessed faithfully to those standards. we made sure every child counted in the system, that they weren't cast aside if they're there struggling readers or had problems. we eliminated social promotion in third grade. this insidious policy that exist in most parts of our country where if you're functionally illiterate, you're passed along to fourth grade with the gaps begin to grow and grow and grow, and the social cost grow as well. we expanded school choice programs in every capacity -- whether it was digital learning, vouchers, or for the expansion of charter schools. and the net result after 10 years of struggle, and believe me, the tire marks on my forehand are there for this reason, we moved the needle in student learning. florida is the state that has consistently improved the gap between outcomes amongst african-american and white students. florida's hispanic kids are the best of any hispanic group hispanic students in the united states. in fact, two grade levels ahead of the average in the united states. our graduation rate was 50th of out of 50 states. we have moved it successfully each and every year to the point where it is something -- we have had a 25-26% gain in the graduation rate and that will continue to grow. so don't let anybody tell you that it's not possible with reform and leadership to be able to move the needle. my guess is that hundreds of thousands of kids that now can read and write are going to be living productive lives in miami. and we will be blessed as a community because of that. all communities ought to be able to do that, and having a reform orientation is part of that strategy. while there's much to do, much more to do, because this is a continuous journey, we have seen lives change and hope restored. you can do it here in detroit. we can do it across america. because this morning, 320 million americans got up and they are on 320 million different paths of life. it's our goal to see them succeed. it's our responsibility to do everything possible to help them. because by their success they will not only build prosperity for themselves, they will renew the promise of this nation. where everyone has the right to rise. those are the stakes. that's why we are here. please join me in this cause. thank you all very much, and may god bless detroit and may god bless america. [applause] >> governor, thank you so very much. we have some questions for you. actually, we have a lot of questions for you. start with the first one. you talked a lot about education. why is education such a big issue for you as your time as governor and now that you're potentially considering a presidential run? gov. bush: well, it was important for a lot of reasons. one, you ask governors around the country what's the number one thing that they can do to create the best business climate, increasingly it's transforming the k-12 system and making sure that the community college system and higher education is oriented towards helping deal with this opportunity gap excellence in -- opportunity gap. so, it is an economic development issue for sure. but it's also i think a great moral issue of our time. a third of our kids around of -- a third of our kids, around there, depending on how you measure, a third of our kids are truly college or career ready. that's just slow-motion tragedy. in the world we are moving towards where automation and acceleration of innovation is making it harder and harder for the first job to be created for people that are unskilled. imagine what it would be like 10 years from now or 20 years from now if we continue to just blame it on poverty, balme it on this -- blame it on this, blame it on that excuse the way why we have so few kids that can enter the military or so few kids that have to take, don't have to take remedial classes if you want to go to college. and so few kids that have the career skills to be up to get a -- able to get a job. so it's an economic issue but it's also a huge moral issue. our country doesn't do this well. these huge gaps that exist that are now increasing because of education outcomes, this is not the america that is lead the world. other countries might be able to deal with this better. we do better when everybody has a chance to rise up. unless i'm missing something, if you don't have a quality education, if you can't read and write and calculate math, have a sense of why this matters in your own life, no matter what drive you have, i think a lot of young people have huge drive and determination to succeed but they won't have the skills, the capacity to do so. i hope everybody -- i would like to see more people marching in the streets for rising student achievement. less people marching in the streets for things that might be important for them but rising student achievement should be the highest calling for all of us and we should be outraged that it's not happy to the degree that it should. >> your last name is bush. gov. bush: that's what i've been told. >> many people wanted to make sure you knew that. what impact is having a father and a brother who have served as president weight on your -- wayeigh on your decision to potentially run? gov. bush: well, on one level i got a front-row seat to kind of watch history unfold, a unique seat, has given me some perspectives that are helpful. and on another level i know it's an interesting challenge for me. one that i have to, if i had any degree of self-awareness, this would be the place where it might want to be applied. and so if i was to go beyond the consideration of running i would have to deal with this and turned this, this fact into an opportunity to show who i am, to connect on a human level with people so people began, and offer ideas that are important to people so that when they think of me, they think that i'm on their side, that i care about them and that the issues i'm passionate about will help them rise up. so that's a really compelling strategy but that's the god's honest truth. i've done this as governor. i ran when my brother was governor and my dad was just out as president, and there i ended up losing the first time, which by the way for those who are thinking, it's always better to run against a bad candidate than a good candidate. i proved that 1984. i lost against a guy who never lost. i had better luck the next time. and gain that experience i knew i had to share my heart. i had these deeply held views about education, for example but people didn't connect with me. so when the attack started they didn't shrug their shoulders. a problem in politics, you've got to care for people before you can get their vote. so 1998 i had the same views about education, but i went to visit 250 schools. trust me, by the end of that journey people knew that it wasn't just the brother of george w. and the son of my beloved dad. i was my own person. i earned it by working hard to connect with people on a level that truly mattered. so that experience on a national scale has got to be part of the strategy. i love my my dad. matter of fact, my dad is the greatest man alive and if anybody disagrees, we will go outside, unless you are 6'5" and 250 and much younger than me then we will negotiate. i'm still not going to change my mind for sure. and i love my brother and i think he's been a great president. it doesn't bother me a bit to be proud of them and love them but i know for fact if i'm going to be successful going beyond the consideration that i'm going to have to do it on my own. >> a couple years ago you spoke at the mackinac policy conference and you spoke a lot about immigration reform. you touched on it in your remarks. where does this nation need to go in terms of immigration reform and what are its prospects for actual success? gov. bush: great frustration. this should be the lowest hanging fruit, to be honest with you, because this is a huge opportunity. immigration is not a problem. the immigrant experience in our country makes us unique and special and different, and it is part of our extraordinary success over time. so while the political fights go on we are missing this opportunity. i view it as that. fixing a broken system is a huge opportunity to get to that 4% growth. it were going to stick around to the 2% run great, a little -- run rate, a little higher this quarter, a little bit high the last but that's what economists say, the new normal. have you heard that term? the new normal is european-style growth. if you're going to do that than the demands are going to overwhelm all other people. -- a whole lot of people. if we grow at 4%, by all sorts of policies, but immigration has to be part of that. we need young, dynamic people that can make an immediate contribution to our economy. we should not be fearful of this. we should say what an incredible opportunity. and so i would hope that that mentality of shifting just an economic issue rather than a political issue will be helpful. it starts with regaining confidence that the federal government can enforce the border. they need to secure the border. first and foremost, there's no denying that. that ought to be the highest priority. i don't think the president should use his executive authority where he has gone beyond his constitutional powers. that creates greater doubt as well. i don't think that people are totally confident that the e-verify system we have in place right down is working to the extent that it needs to so we need to fix that. i know for a fact that people are surprised that 40% of undocumented workers undocumented people in our country have come with a legal visa and they just overstayed their time. a great country ought to figure out a way to deal with the at issue. so once we got that done, then it seems to me we ought to be strategic about this. shift away from family reunification being almost the sole driver of illegal immigration to narrowing that do what every other country has spouse and minor children, and dramatically expanding immigrants that are coming to work. a guest worker program to do in the areas where there are cash -- to deal in the areas where there are shortages. the high skills agenda that is desperately important for us where h-1b1 visa holders language and don't get, don't get their status improved. investors, dreamers, people that come to our great universities all these people should be welcomed in a in the country and the unwritten contract ought to be embrace our values, and you can pursue your dreams in this great country. and by doing so you're creating opportunity for more people. because if we don't do that, 10 years from now, i'm guessing and i hope this is the case that everybody in this room will be 10 years older. and family formation rates in this country are at an all time low. and birth rates are below break even. there are more single women than married women in this country for the first time in our history. our demography could be huge strength for high sustained economic growth, or if we do nothing of it will end up becoming a significant problem. maybe not as bad as japan or as europe, but a significant problem. shifting just an economic driver , i think, is important to sandy, one other thing that is really important and that is we see the struggles of immigration in places like japan where race is the identifier basically of national identity. or europe where there are many immigrants that come but they are not necessarily embraced as full europeans were full french or german or whatever. the american experience works when people embrace a set of shared values. it doesn't work when we divide ourselves up in our disparate parts. so i would urge every state to focus on how do we expand civic education as well. we should love our country. we should have come we should embrace our heritage and we should encourage immigrants to do so as well. and that will reestablish this unique american experience which is you come, you work hard to embrace these values and your as -- you are as american as anyone who came on the mayflower. that's the america that will yield great, great results. [applause] >> governor, any truth to the rumor that you approached about being nfl commissioner back in 2006? that job might be open again. gov. bush: yes, it's kind of true, actually. i saw roger's pay package, wow. he's got a tiger by the tail right now. it's not as easy a job as it might have appeared in 2007 but actually i was encouraged to consider it not as though it's going to be granted me but there were owners that asked me about it. and it was nine months prior to my tenure, as ending my tenure as governor. to be honest with you that is the greatest job in the world, being governor of a state, and i could never have imagined abandoning that job because i thought when i put my hand on the bible, it was to swear to uphold the law for all eight years, not seven years and three months. and so it took me about 10 minutes after the flattery of a couple of calls for owners to -- from owners to realize this is just, this is not possible. and so i finished strong as governor, and strong as i could. it was a blast. that's another thing i encourage. if you're going to run, run against a bad candidate and run for governor because it's the best job in the world. >> vaccinations are in the news. a few potential presence of -- presidential candidates have stumbled on that issue this week, but what are your views? gov. bush: parents need to make sure their children are vaccinated. [applause] do we need to get into any detail of that? i mean -- just seems, look, it's easy, i've done this. i've said things that are misinterpreted or partially interpreted and then heads explode and all source of media, -- sorts of media, just create all this controversy. i think it's better just to say parents have a responsibility to make sure their children are protected, over and out. >> lots of political questions. so if i were to summarize them it would be this. the 2012 republican presidential primary system looked like the canteen scene in star wars. [laughter] >> how do you anticipate the 2016 -- gov. bush: heck, i get in trouble -- i'm going to get in trouble just listening to that. so look, politics is chaotic. it's not -- the idea that there's some smoke-filled room where big dogs, men and women that have all this power decide who's going to be what. that was gone a long time ago. and as the old order has been disrupted, it's been replaced by a little more of the wild west kind of process. i think this time around there's a couple things that will help republicans. one, the desire to win. it is lonely sticking your head through the white house gate and wondering what's going on. eight years in exile is a long time. i think it will be some discipline to be able to recognize how important this race is for the future of the country. secondly, the rnc itself has narrowed the number of debates which i think is probably helpful. and shortened the primary process, which is as well probably helpful. so they have done what they can to take away some of the chaos. but look, it's a big deal. there's a lot riding on this. so my guess is to be a lot of people running, and people will hopefully focus on what they are for, why them? as i asked by a student, to answer the why question, why are you doing this? why you and what are you doing it? those are huge questions to answer. and not to tear down the other people all the time. i just don't see how that's productive. people are tired of it, and this -- disunity that exists is because people are being preyed upon. the anxieties are being preyed upon by people that are constantly sticking their finger through the tv set saying this is bad, you are bad or better whatever. i don't think you can govern effectively and solve problems. my belief is four or five big complicated things, if they are fixed, this is the greatest time to be alive as americans. i totally believe it and i'm not delusional. it's the gods honest truth the and if anybody wants to disagree with me on that, we can go outside, too. this is the time of enormous possibility. we've got to fix these things and just making points all the time and tearing down somebody is not going to work. if i go beyond the consideration of the possibility of running, i hope i have the discipline not to turn back and get into the food fights that seem to been prevalent on both parties by the way. this is not just uniquely republican. we shall see. >> we have had a slow recovery but more than just the u.s. economy recovery, how do we get the rest of the world to continue to grow? gov. bush: well, our growth, which because of our unique scale and the fact that we are not as dependent upon, we are increasingly dependent, but not as dependent upon foreign economies given our scale and given the size of our consumer base and a lot of reasons, we have the chance if we can create an energy policy based on america's innovation and north american resources, canada mexico and the united states, to create the lowest cost energy source in the world over the longest period of time, to help consumers with their disposable income and to help reindustrialize the country. we have a chance to lead the world. if we fix our immigration system and turn it into an economic driver for high sustained economic growth over the long haul. we can lead the world. if we fix outdated rules and a tax system that is just convoluted beyond belief, that actually is now a sealing on the -- a sealing -- a ceiling on the creation of the next generation of job creators, business start up. right now are lower than they were i believe in the 1980's. we have seen dramatic declines. workforce participation is back to that level as well. and so fixing a few of these things, we could grow at 4%. and trust me if we grow 4% apart from incomes rising for the middle and people having a chance to leave poverty, we would help other countries that were prepared to follow suit. that countries that are not going to make it are the ones they can't deal with their entitlement issues and believe issues and believe that more stimulus to monetary policy and more fiscal stimulus is the answer. all you've got to do is just you know, look at greece, look at these countries that haven't made the necessary structural changes and you end up with serious problems that they will never get out of. but the countries that embrace the kind of reform that we need to embrace, they are going to be fine. >> final question. how would you handle the threats that we face with a new kind of terrorism? gov. bush: so these new asymmetric threats aren't going to go away. you can't, you can't think they are or claim they are. the many people back and the -- the minute you pull back and the minute you're no longer nurturing the alliances and relationships that make this a global fight, boys are killed. -- voids are filled. as we pulled back from the middle east, look what happened. look what happened with isis and syria and isis in iraq. the big victory in yemen at the president has talked about lasted about six months and now we are closed, the are no embassy personnel in yemenese capital. so we have to be engaged. and it doesn't necessary mean boots on the ground in every occurrence. this is not a zero-sum game. our president always wants to frame in a way that makes it appear like he's engaged, and those that don't agree with them think -- those that do not agree with him, he believes they are warmongers. engaged diplomatically in terms of intelligence gathering come in terms of military that we are totally engaged, that we have relationships with our strongest allies where they never doubt us. ask israel today about what does the united states have their back? ask eastern european countries or the baltic countries, does the united states have their back? there's growing concern that we

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