So that to that end we could not be more thrilled to host such a distinguished panel today to take us all inside the east wing. Its especially fitting, i think, to be hosted this allstar, allfemale panel on the topic of first ladies and their chiefs of staff as we close out womens History Month this march. Id like to take a minute to tank thank all of our partners that made this event possible. Starts drt starting with ambassador have dear and the copeland family fund to have georgetown womens center, the georgetown womens alliance. The school on public policy. Georgetown women in International Affairs and g. U. Women in leadership. A pretty good last time. Id like to turn it over to c. C. Bartelera, a freshman in the college whos going to formally introduce the panel. [applause] hello, everyone. Thank you for coming. My name the c. C. Up im a freshman and a member of the g. U. Politics team. The women we have this evening are great examples of the unique georgetown opportunities that g. U. Has been able to facilitate throughout their inaugural year. We want women with handson experiences in the field. With us tonight is a panel of ladies to give us a look inside the east wing of the white house. Mcbride is the executive in resident of the president ial and public studies. She previously served as assistant to george w. Bush and chief of staff to First Lady Laura Bush from 2005 to 2009, directing the staffs work on a wide variety of demestic and global initiatives in which mrs. Bush was involved. Her White House Service spans two decades and three administrations, including as director of white house personnel under Ronald Reagan and george w. Bush. Ms. Mcbride is a frequent speaker and commentator on the istory of president ial administrations. She is assistant and chief of staff to first Lady Michelle obama. She also serve is as the executive director for the counsel on women and girls. She is the recipient of many awards, including the Leadership Award from the womens Bar Association of illinois, the women of Achievement Award from the Antidefamation League and chicago lawyers person of the year. And many lan revere is the executive director of the Georgetown Institute for women, peace, and security. She served as the first u. S. Ambassador for global womens issues, a position to which she was dominated nominated by president obama in 2009. She coordinated issues relating to the economic and political advancement of women. She played a leadership role in the u. S. Development of the u. S. Womens action plan on peace and security and president obama appointed her to seven as the u. S. Representative of the u. N. Status of women. She served as the chief of staff the first lady and also hah was instrumental in the adoption of trafficking victims protection act of 2000. She is the coauthor of fast forward how women can achieve power and purpose. Model rating tonight is claire shipman, an author and speaker. Her latest book, the confident code coauthored with catty kay of bb was bb just chorus was a New York Times bestseller. Shes covered news for abc and cnn. Throughout the event tonight, please be sure to tag all your tweets snapchat and instagram gufirst ladies. Thank you and please enjoy. [applause] thank you all. Thank you for coming. Let me say, those bios are all so impressive but the bottom line, these are three really powerful women. Let me tell you, ive worked with all of them and this is an incredible panel we have here. We were talking a little bit before the event about some of the questions we might ask and the one i think that really im most curious about is chief of staff for the first lady. What for all of you, expectation versus reality . What did you think the job would be like and how did that match up with what really has happened or happened . Starting with molly ann . Ok, claire, but let me, before i delve into that, thank you for coming and agreeing to hare the conversation. Claire, i asked earlier how many trips she had made with us when she was is cnn bureau chief to the white house or the white house correspondent. He made trips to some 80 countries and i think claire was on a good many of them. I was a lot younger then. For tina and ameet anita, this is also special for me. We belong to a very small club, the chiefs of staff to first ladies. Thats a very small club, just like the first ladies is a very small club. I think were even smaller. Its very special for us all to be together. What did i anticipate and what did it turn out to be . I think given that i was working or Hillary Clinton, i really anticipated a real significant in issues in policy, in working all of the things she cared about. Certainly children and family significantly. Then very significantly moving into global womens issues, but i really did amendment that it ould be a heavy policy undertaking. What i think nobody can anticipate is what its like in the white house, and i see lisa brown here is now the general counsel here at georgetown and she was in the west wing as a secretary and all of the papers to the president went through her work and you have no idea on the outside everything that is involved on the inside. And then one of the hardest things, and i look forward to what anita and tina might say about it is how the first ladys Office Actually works with the west wing and what some of the pluses and minuses of that relationship are. But we were very integrated into the overall operations of the white house. We all worked for the president. That was very clear. Might be specifically engaged in the first ladys office but first and foremost, we worked for the president and our work and i dont know if youre going to go into this further, claire, and we may tease some of it out, was integrated into the overall operations of what the priorities of the white house were. Ill tell you, i envisioned a less than tense milieu than i had experienced working in the reagan and first bush administration, working in the west wing and the Old Executive Office building and i also had a different frame of reference cause nancy reagan was involved but her office was much smaller and barbara bush had a view of georges work being joshs work and her work being r work so when i was invited by mrs. Bush to have an interview with her to consider being chief of staff for the second term, i didnt expect the first words out of her mouth to be i want to go to afghanistan, and then i knew this would be a very different experience and opportunity than what i had envisioned. It turned out to be very policy oriented, into the work of the west wing. The first lady has an enormous platform to be an advocate into issues she cares about and is best done when integrated into the overall administrations goals because youre trying to support what the president is doing. So my expectation because i had gone into the job with two young children. A 3yearold and a 6yearold so i wasnt really anticipating having the schedule that it turned out to be. In four years we traveled to 68 countries together, a total of 77 for her for the eight years but it was busy and it was exciting and it was terrific but the expectations going in were it was something far more powerful than i thought it would be. Tina, what about you . My thing is you see the first lady and the white house from the exterioro. Friendship chicago, not from d. C. I never expected to be in the white house. Coming to work in the Obama Administration was my first experience. Its a huge platform, on every tv screen. You see the pressroom and you think its a really big room and a really big house. Clearly as the president comes balking down the red carpets to give a statement, it must be a really long hallway. Really not. You see it on ask the scandal and west wing. That i have these big offices. Really not. Everybodys office is really small in all seriousness, the physical size of the building is quite small and on top of that, the resources of the building in terms of the number of staff and in terms of other kinds of resources is quite limited. The bunt of the white house has gotten increasingly smaller over the years. Congress has not been generous to the white house yet keeping expectations for what you are supposed to project, and is especially true for first ladies. The image youre supposed to project in representing the country and being out there as an advocate with what are a very limited set of resources. We often say we dont have the policy arms we dont have big policy offices. We dont have bunts. We dont command the budget and yet how do you take the resources you have and this, as my boss often calls it, the shiny bright light that follows her around and make it to its best use. It was very surprising to find here it is, the most important building in the land. Its very small and doesnt have a lot of resources. Did it surprise you all in talking to be impact you can have have you been surprised . Has mrs. Obama been surprised . The role of a first lady in some ways, the impact is enormous and youre almost freer in many ways to have an impact and to navigate outside of the system a little bit. First of all, i think it took her by surprise. I think all of our bosses sort littlehe degree to every thing you do. You get that scrutiny on the campaign but when you walk into the white house, the level of scrutiny is so intense and yet, the opportunity, youre right is so great because everybody is watching what you do. That was the thing that certainly mrs. Obama grew into which is how do you make the best use of those moments. Theyll Start Talking about shoes, and then the issues and how to you take advantage of that. And we have had a whole other set of tools, for someone who doesnt have a lot of resources, the ability now through social media to have at very little cost put out a viral video and all of a sudden you can hit tens of millions of people and it doesnt cost you anything is pretty remarkable. That is something, we have an ability in the east wing to be a little freer. Get a rap video. The president did in his second term but not in the first term. You have the ability to be a little more relatable and in the social media moment. If i could clarify, i think its really interesting to think about this position because there is no job description. There is no salary. There is no appointment, there is no election and everybody in the United States, i swear, has an opinion of what the first lady should do and theyre all in critics with each other. So somehow coming into this situation, the woman who is there and so far its only been a woman in this position, comes there trying to navigate knowing shes only there by virtue of the election of her husband and she has to think through in terms of the administration its priorities, her experience, her background, her interests, where she can make the best contributions. But it is a very peculiar position if you think about it in terms of really no job description. Very tricky at times. Youre right, the scrutiny and the expectations is endless. And you are never going to please everybody. I see that, though i think it presents, in the way melanne described it. No description, no salary, all those things and tinas description, being in the white house and that and the all you all the time. Its a challenge but also an enormous opportunity because you get the opportunity as first lady to pick and choose the issues that you want to engage in. You pick the things that you have background and people relate to you. That doesnt mean the scrutiny and the questions wont be there about what are they doing up is there in that big white house . But there is an enormous opportunity. To tinas point about the social media and being able to use all the mediums that are available to you right now. Instant contain thousands rex of what you are doing, that has changed the role of first lady. Theres a greater expectation that americans have of what the people who are occupying this position are doing with it. Long gone for the are the day that is Mamie Eisenhower used to say i americans can never relate to that anymore no matter who is in the position of president ial spouse. The first lady is also has a little bit of teflon, right, in her ability to get the press, get the focus, sometimes its for the shoes or the dress or the hair but then to be able to shift and it get people to focus on whether its lets move on literacy or women around the world. All of those, its enormous. Talk a little bit about Agenda Setting and how do you pick, right . So the authenticity is important. All of your bosses ultimately really settle on things that feel authentic but theres got to be a little bit more to it than that. It revolves around awe thentistty and i think all three of our first ladies do that where you really do have to do something that feels true to yourself and it comes out of something you really are passionate about and you care about and you can speak personally about. Then i think, we all our bosses, you know, you want to have value added to the elected position. You want to pick things like our which resonates with the education domain the president has been doing. You want to be value added to whats going on there and you want to it be something that you can make a difference with. As our latest niche ty, mrs. Obama, Girls Education internationally, there are a lot of people doing it so we spent a while, if we were going to into that space, what we could uniquely contribute. You want to do it in a way that will move the dial forward in some satisfaction fashion and is directly related to your efforts and is not taking away from something somebody else is already doing. Theres a chain here of the women and girls issue international live. With everybody. Its really been a mantle that ultimately its an issue that resonates right now and its one i guess that all of your bosses are passionate about. I think it also has to do with the fact that these are absolutely critical issues. We call them soft issues but theyre significant issues and if there isnt leadership targeted to those issues, its not likely theyll be addressed and then ultimately, the first ady may take the lead but they really threaten become very integrated into the overall policies of the president. So i think some of it is the recognition that somebodys really got to play a leadership role here. Absolutely. So we also want to talk because i know everybody out here is thinking how do i get a job like this job you have had . Youre all Good Students wondering. So talk a little bit about what the daytoday job is like for and you what life is like. And especially that integration, think melanne or anita mentioned the integration of east wing west wing. The politics between those two considering just as intense or tricky to navigate. Ill just mention two things that were shared with me as i started the job. One was with my predecessor, who melanne newspaper. Andy had been george bushs chief of staff when she was first lady of texas for the first term and she had made the decision if george w. Bush was going to win a second term, she was going back to texas. Her husband had never moved up here so she was ready to go back. The day she was leaving and walking out of the east wing and i walked her out the door. Even though i had worked in the building, the white house three strayings now, was comfortable with the surroundings. I knew my way around but i was nervous. She just turned to me and said just remember, even on your worst day, remember where you are and that will really help you. Because youre in this small space but it is really magnificent and you can move the needle because you have such an opportunity as the temporary custodian of the position. That i remember. Also, andy card, who was chief of staff for the president at the time gave me a very good piece of advice. It was a very short meeting. He said remember, you have one client and thats the first lady. Do whatever you need to do to make sure she has what she needs and that shes happy. Otherwise he would hear about it from the president anyway. Those two things really help told guide me my entire time in the white house as chief of staff. I think every member of the west wing staff noles who the esident speaks to last and with whom he speaks most often and that is the first lady. O her perceptions, her understandings, her crisscrossing the country, the world, all of those somehow get transmitted in some way and that does not go unnoticed, but i always felt that when the first lady was up, the west wing staff was very eager to have her engaged in any way possible. When she was down or controversial it was oh, youve got a problem on your hands so there are always these tensions and its always like where the were the other, even though the other is very much integrated in whats going on. One of the things i remember so well was when we were going to the beijing womens conference in china in 1995. This was a long time ago now as i think about it and the press in their inimitable style was asking what is she going to say, what is she going to say . And had asked the press office is the at the white house, the chief spokesperson what is she going to say . The word was shes really not going to make waves. Its not going to be newsworthy and just go and cover the trip, but i wouldnt expect anything out of the ordinary. And it happened very controversial getting up to the plane. Both the right wing was out to make the conference other than something that was intended to destroy the family and the Human Rights Community was outraged that it was taking place in china, a violation of human rights and yet it was an International Conference that happened to be taking place in china. Were navigating this and all eyes are on whether or not shes going to go and it wasnt clear up until the last minute that she was going but there was because there was an incident ith the human rights activists in china that were arrested. Nevertheless, the press gotten to plane anticipating that while the road to beijing was not without controversy, obviously this is not going to be a speech that makes waves. I remember going to the back of the plane and being pulled with what is she going to say . At that point hardly anybody had seen the speech. It was one of the most closely held operations. She was the perm rep to the u. N. At the time, Madeline Albright got on the plane and some of the National Security people went over the speech but it was extremely closely held and we werent either acknowledging what you had been told or saying its going to be entirely different and it wasnt until that speech was delivered that i think anybody understood just the power, the newsworthiness and the fact that both the the Washington Times and the New York Times, which have very little in common acknowledged that it was her finest moment. Burr again, it was the west wing set nothing expectations whatsoever. That was very frustrating that. Whole process. No information all the way to china. Many of my colleagues in the west wing said we dont think we should go. Theres no percentage in this. She should not go and after all, it was just before a reelection year. There was more to be nervous about than not be nervous about and then when the speech happened and she came back and the world was saying my god, look at america, they were all saying it was their idea that she went. [laughter] about that speech and their thread to women and girls. Im glad you mentioned it because that is a singular historic moment just globally. And tina, from your point of view in terms of your job, what you do every day, what you do ith putting out fires. What keeps you up at night. Whats your biggest fear youre going to walk in the morning and hear . Is it something about something in the press, something about some politics going on in the west wing . What is it that you dread . Actually, its changed over time. It used to be, in the very beginning it really was like the sort of waking up thinking youve missed an exam kind of moment. It was like what detail of an event had we missed or what person didnt get invited, what, you know, what part of the speech we spent many times obsessing over making sure the speech was there, having in case the afes teleprompter doesnt work, in case the pages on the book dont work. So there was that. And then it sort of movied now to what morphed now is to in this probably kicked about a year ago so im thinking about theyre conscious of a dwindling amount of time left and with each day that goes by, how much shorter the time is left to have of this platform and really wanting to make sure that weve left no stone unturned, no issue unaddressed. Do not want to get to january 17 and say god, you know, we could have done this and we deny. That actually is very much top of mind almost every night like what else is there . Say to , what would you the next chief of staff to the first lady or first spouse we have to discuss whether were ready for that. [laughter] what would you say if you were to give the andy card advice or the top two points move more quickly, focus on something . Anita i definitely would use the andy card line. You have one client. You want to make them happy. I always worry about the schedule, making sure we have all the details, all the information, the proper briefing materials for the first lady. And you have to be prepared and that is the one thing i think i would tell my successor if i were asked. Just come into the job every day just being prepared for whats unpredictable and being also prepared that the urgent has to overtake the important. You might go home at night with a great list, todo list of five or six things or 10 or 20 or 100 that youll get to when you arrive at 6 45 or 7 00 in the morning and invariably by 15 thats completely blown up and you have to be able to pivot and thats that is ok. Thats what the white house is like and its the best training in the world and youll take it with you forever. But trying to stay on top of the details and involving the people around you and delegating as much as you can because its physically impossible to do it all but always being responsive to the first lady because the heat is always on them. The pressure is on them, the camera season them and you have got to be one step ahead of them all the time. Tina i would say attention to detail. For the to learn how to pay cut into detail. I was a practicing lawyer before and that was always important. Every site checked, every fact checked. That trading more than anything else put me in a good place for this job. To what is the ground like that she have to walk across . Cant you heels or flats . [laughter] wear heels or flats . The ability to care yourself when representing yourself and other countries is critical. The content of the speech that will be historic . You have to be able to hit it pivot from one a small digital to one huge historic making. I agree, the wardrobe memo was as important as some of the speeches. The equivalent of a Nuclear Football with the makeup bag. Stepping off a point, it may sound insignificant and silly, but it really isnt, you are traveling 80 countries around the world, youre the representative of the United States of america. Pressureou do feel the to be as perfect as you possibly can. We will open it up to questions. Theres a microphone that will come to you. I want to ask as we passed might mic outcome of can has the legal experience and both of you have enormous political experience. Things but the young people out here still thinking about careers that you think are critical to think about in terms of navigating their way toward the white house job . Itself,rms of the top what mrs. Clinton always reminded us, and i think it is the most important thing, a very heavy environment, you cant get carried away by where you are and it is always to important to stay focused on what you are doing. You are here for the American People. We have to do everything we can to do everything we can to make a difference. I think in the worst of times and the best of times, that always resonated. You need to keep your eye on the prize. You can get distracted, no two days are like. The ability to be motivated to know what you want to do something, not be in the white house, but to be in the white house because you can make a difference. I think that has really been the best advice. I agree completely. Thank you so much for coming. At the Foreign Service school at georgetown, my question is it seems like the role of chief of staff at the white house has defined by the gender in terms of worrying about details of wardrobe because the way the media treats them is very different than the way they treat men. The issues they focus on historically have been more soft tissues. They are seen as issues, they are seen as more compatible with the first lady. Iswe have a first spouse who not a woman, how do you that affecting the role of the chief of staff in the future . All, i think what you said is not exactly representative of the world. Inasmuch as when mrs. Clinton was first lady, there was huge debate and newspapers and news bureaus over how to cover her because one day she was on the style section arranging flowers for a state dinner but the next day he was trying to work on Health Care Reform which is one of the singular biggest imaginable issues confronting any country, certainly hours. And a huge chunk of the budget. And just generally, you can imagine a bigger issue to take on. T was not just a womens issue in that sense, the president had after to lead this. Asked her to lead this. Ist has to be understood that yes, it has all of these connotations to it. Respectly, one has to each person and what she chooses to do and how they do it. Lyr role can be an enormous impactful and it has been. I think if there were a first man and the position, i doubt very much hes going to pick up the china for the state dinners or even tell the flower arranging staff what colors entertainment an that the white house has to hold. I think it will be conditioned on what his interests are and how he can best promote the agenda of the administration and where he can be best deployed in the ways that make the most sense. I think that is how we have to look at this position. You also have to be very careful in the remember going to this with Hillary Clinton covering her. It is not a job. There is no job description. You can suddenly declare you are toning something, you have pick things outside of bounds of what the administration. Lady really isst in the swim with what the administration is doing, when i you are amplifying and pursuing something that will further the president ss goals. Theres only one person and that person that building he was elected. [laughter] it is the president and we all whether east wing or west wing, that is who we are working for. Prickly, frankly, first spouses get there because they understand that. Point where see a the first spouse worked . And how much controversy would that be . Somebody has a job as a lawyer, i could imagine all of us saying, what about this conflict and that conflict . I think that is coming and i think we should be prepared for that. Thea Firm Believer that white house adapts to the occupants and the occupants adapt to the white house. The president ial spouse and has a job outside the home, essentially, it will be the most superb balancing act that anyone could possibly imagine because that person will be doing that under the spotlight, try to balance the expectations that we now have for this role that you do something with that platform. That you support the president of the United States who has every problem in the world. Support of athe spouse to help highlight an issue or be an advocate or be the person closest to them to travel around the world or country. To balance that with another fulltime job will be a challenge. But, and i think the other complication is, all of us who know working in the white house, you run foul very easily of the ethics and the rules. You are a roller lawyer, you understand that. If a spouse has a job earning outside income for a private company or something, you can be sure that the white house onyers will be constantly what he or she is doing. To make sure it does not run afoul. Jill biden teaches. She has paved the way the role of a spouse of a Vice President , which is somewhat different. Hasmire her because she lots of time. We know when she is teaching. She has blended the fact that she is a Community College teacher well into the issues. Promoting Community College is one of the president s initiatives and she is caring airing the free Community College effort. It is a complete and accurate stick an anachronistic job. History and aful great historic building. And it still is stuck in history. Incrementally, were changing that with each new generation that is coming in but there are some generational shifts will keep happening in the building. [indiscernible] the end of the day, the beginning of the day, when they are experiencing, when the Life Experiences and is backgrounded fashion and in his crews are so far from career is so far from public display, what challenges do the staff have to transform that first lady image to one of more credibility as a representative of a country and demand of the demands Greater Public respect . Great question. I will point to one little example. The member how hard it was for nancy reagan to be taken seriously. She came here as the wife of a hollywood actor. A governor who did not happen to be bright. That cannot be wrong. She got off on the wrong foot. She did a lot of renovations to the white house even though much of it was done with private funding. That was not understood at the time. The country was in a recession and shia free appeared tone deaf. The way she was able to turn that around was by doing something very selfdeprecating that was dressing up in old clothes and singing at the gridiron dinner called secondhand robes to the tune in secondhand clothes. See mor help people helped people see that she understood that this was a mistake and was trying to turn it around. Some of it has to come from the person the matter how great your staff might be. They do need to help you navigate these treacherous waters. But you have to be willing to admit you made a mistake. Reagan,ing about nancy obviously the country just lost her, she was controversial in many ways as first ladies can be, but she also made an arms contributions during that period when the soviet union was collapsing into mermen around president reagan who wanted him to take a hard line against gorbachev and i had some friends advising at the time who said that one day, nancy reagan in desperation said why does everybody assume my husband is a warmonger . They wanted to seize the moment as the others did others. Huge tension. George shorts was on one side. Her knowing where her husband wanted to go, i think it was extremely positive. She gets very little credit, at least one she was first lady, for what she did to help him navigate all of that. Ways, she was repeated reputed to call a spade a spade more in terms of people than he was. She played an important role. Funeral, remember, we were sitting next to each other, my father could be the good cop because my mother was born to be the bad cop. That affected her legacy. She understood where he wanted to go. To your question, you can go to the list of first ladies and some have been, not the one to have center stage in history books for good, and some who have accumulated enormous power to themselves. Mrs. Wilson was called at 28. 5 president. There were scandals of serious natures and i think history has a way of, or getting through it and also that we put into perspective on it. Theres just no magic answer. There we go, a microphone out there. My name is megan. Im a freshman. Thank you for being here. Any firstn, you see ladies from history is that the precident and expanded the role to what it is today . It was not a common term when it originated. I was wondering your thoughts on that and who has really given it the power it has today . Have all become experts in throw because we have listed. When we had our prepanel called, rob carter gets a lot of credit for making the decision as first lady to hire the first policy director for a first lady. That began to change the view of the office as well. Woman still works with her today on the Mental Health issues and they just published their second or third book together on Mental Health. Ronda karcherr used to lament the fact that she could not get reporters interested in the work that she was doing which was very significant and important. One of the things she also worked on that you took with her to the white house from her experience of being the wife of a governor of georgia, where she worked with another first lady from arkansas, they worked on Childhood Immunization as wives of governors and when she came ,o the u. S. First lady position the two of them continue to team up and really worked with the cdc to make immunization for to be the law of the land. That still governs us today. I think she is a remarkable woman for what she accomplished in addition to the ones we know a lot about. Eleanor roosevelt broke the mold as well. They have all added or contributed to this continuum of the role. Martha washington is not to be overlooked. She had the burden of setting the president for the role. They do not know what they were going to call her. I am so conscious of living in this social media which has transformed our role from mrs. Much the tenor of the time, the historical moment. What is happening. In a lot of ways the first lady probably lismore in the circle moment in the president. The president on the issues are set things that they have to do. Lady, by nature, raising a family. I think sec what they do over time, will be shaped very much by the moment of the time. I think there is time for another question. I dont know if anyone has one. Right there. I may student and latin american studies. I think question about how the role evolved. [indiscernible] changeint does the role in the different challenges . That was another question we discussed in preparation. How does the role of a campaign spouse evolved into the role of a first spouse or first lady . I think, certainly, you are not thinking about the role that you may hope will come your way for the election of your husband. You are really focused in that campaign and the intensity of the moment. The days, months, what it takes. You are mindful of all those policy positions, the commitments, what you are hearing along the way. What people are coming in telling you about and you have this sense, this deep sense of needing not just to capture the new role, but obligation and what comes out of it is a real sense that we have committed to all of these things. Lets see them through. The president may not be able to put on the top of his agenda some of the things that have come up frequently because every day, Something Different hits your plate and you are focused on the big things. That is where the first radio lady can be a pivot point on some of the critical priorities. Understanding not about governing so much, that of an obligation that comes out of that campaign to begin to why theand understand president was elected. What is owed the American People and how they need to Work Together to a cop was that. Accomplished that. That. To watch the evolution of Michelle Obama and her role. One of the great beauties of our system is the electoral office. We are going through now and it may not feel like a figure dd at the moment, but it really is. Campaign of a national waysres you in very unique for the glare of the white house. Differentnentially than statewide office. You can see the people who are able to make the adjustment. Governors, senators, and those who cannot. Its a dramatically different spotlight. Dramatically different platform. The spouse learns that for the campaign. The other beauty of it, and i have seen that happen, the things that you learn on the campaign and the president and first lady have both talked about this, the things they learned from the roundtables and i went to the people they met, those conversations stay with you as a president and first lady. They influence you in their real and tangible ways. And tangible ways. People we met who influence us on health care. Veteranforces, initiatives came with a roundtable in iowa and working families and some of the spouses who happen to be military spouses and the difference during their experience stayed with her completely with inspiration for her desire to join with dr. Bidens to do something to support military spouses. Probably two things, you have to learn to transition from a slower, stance to a more welcoming bipartisan position. And also, you probably have to learn a little patience because you get off the campaign trail and you must have a list of, these are all the things i want to do and realizing, i have to narrow it down. The bureaucracy you are trying to manage. Im the one who goes back to farthest on this panel and when the clintons got in the residence, there were note telephones you could dial on your own. It was the most archaic telephone system that one could imagine. There was no wifi. We did not know what wifi was in the 90s. There was not a fax machine until january 1990. Wrap. Need to this has been a fantastic panel. One of the things that we are grateful, what you see up your compass not the first time the three of us have talked before because when i write in washington, arrived in washington, it is my predecessors who really were such a great support and there are very few of us who have been through this and it is important to have that and regardless of party, it has been one of the great treasures to have my predecessors. I have been asking them both about transition at the best and it has been a wonderful resource. People to get along and washington. In washington. Example that is a great of working together. Thank you all, thank you for coming. [applause] i want to take this chance to invite you all to a brief reception with us next door. It will be a great test to have a bite to eat courtesy of some of our fabulous cosponsors and discuss all of this great stuff and a little bit more detail. In a little bit more detail. Coming up, president jimmy carter talks with uganda war veteran. Another car, former google ceo talks about technology that will eventually help doctors grow body parts using stem cells. Mr. Schmidt is now executive chairman of the Google Parent Company out of it incorporated. Fabet inc. That al where are we now and what is the next revolution . There are two phenomena that will be transformative, the first in health and biology and knowledge. Health and biology, a breakthrough of their way of gene editing. At the moment, it very tough hammer. Thatuse a piece of genes the do not think was useful and turned out to be useful to reassemble of components reassemble components. The combination of that and doing databases of genes and sequencing allows us to really go into the molecular and biological structure. It is certainly true within the next 1020th that you will be able to get a body part generated out of stem cells beckham out of your blood. Extruder achievement. Achievement. Ary you can see that tonight at nine clock eastern. 9 00 eastern. This month, what cspans coverage of the 2016 republican and Democratic National conventions and every saturday night at 8 00 eastern. Look at past conventions as a president ial candidates who went on to in their nomination be your focusing on incoming president s who ran for reelection. , the 1964enhower democratic invention with lyndon johnson. Richard nixon at the 1972 Republican Convention. The 1980 Democratic Convention with jimmy carter. At the 1992bush Republican Convention in houston. The clinton in chicago bill clinton in chicago. And the 2004 Republican Convention with george w. Bush. Past republican and Democratic National Convention Saturday night at 8 00 eastern on cspan. The hardfought 2016 primary season is over. His dark conventions to follow. Historic conventions to follow. Watch cspan as the delegates consider the nomination of the first woman ever to head a Political Party that is major beard and the first nonpolitician in several decades. Watch live on cspan, listen on the cspan radio app. On monday, july 18. Here is what is ahead on cspan. Former president jimmy carter talks about civil rights and justice. Former google Ceo Eric Schmidt talks about his role as chair of and thense Department Innovation and advise report. And Supreme Court chief Justice John Roberts talks about trying to get consensus on the course decisions. The house returned in the july 4 break tomorrow with a bit each agenda busy agenda that includes Gun Legislation. Debate can begin as early as wednesday, reportedly House Democrats could disrupt for meetings as early as tomorrow. Live house coverage on cspan. The Senate Return for legislative distance on wednesday with a vote on judicial nomination. Live Senate Coverage on cspan two. 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